@yokokazuo
I get it. I'm not blaming anyone who feels disappointed. I just don't see it as a big deal myself.
There's so many characters I do like, that I don't really feel as if there's a deficiency. At least the DLC will add more Shadow Dragon characters. A specific pack aimed specifically at SD.
Idk. I think people saw FE Heroes and kind of expected something similar here... honestly I did expect DLC for other games, or at the very least, a few select characters, or at the very least, an Echoes pack (which I really would have liked) but... it's whatever. I'll play with Celica, Lissa, Lucina, Lyn, Tiki, Anna, Chrom, Robin, Shiida, Marth, Xander, Ryoma, Corrin, Frederick and Cordelia. Elise and Camilla too. And why not a little Takumi and Leo and Hinoka as well. I did like all the royals.
I truthfully wanted Sumia in this game over Cordelia. I love Cordelia. But Sumia is where it's at. She was my Pegasus Knight and Chrom's partner in crime... I grew rather fond of her.
Here's to hoping for Aversa and Tharja and Basilio and Flavia... I think there's more Awakening characters I like than any other entry in the series.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Even with the recent news that I find disappointing this game is still my most anticipated game ever since its announcement. If I had to pick between this game and Mario Odyssey I'd choose this every time. Just like Hyrule warriors on the WiiU FE warriors will likely be my most played game on the console.
Also BTW during the TGS Koei hinted that Azura was going to be in the DLC. As if no one ever saw this coming. I mean really? Why? Of course she is going to be in the DLC. Why couldn't you have hinted at literally any other character? I know it is stupid, but I actually find it a little annoying.
There were a lot of Fates characters I found dull, but I do like the royals. But aside from them I can only think of one or two that I really liked- Arthur stands out. Rinkah as well.
But I guess that's going to happen when Fates is the best selling entry in the series to date.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
There's a possibility that Ike, Roy and Alm are unlockable characters. Amiibo support has been revealed and works the same way as Hyrule Warriors but all FE amiibo give you weapons so either all FE characters that have amiibo are in the game or you have situations like the Smash comparisons (e.g. Roy amiibo gives Marth weapons).
The DLC details are vague enough that it may be not all of the DLC content is from those 3 games:
DLC Pack #1 (Dec 2017, $8.99USD / £8.09 / €8.99): The content in this pack is inspired by Fire Emblem Fates.
DLC Pack #2 (Feb 2018, $8.99USD / £8.09 / €8.99): Many of the characters and items in this DLC pack hail from Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon.
DLC Pack #3 (March 2018, $8.99USD / £8.09 / €8.99): Fans of Fire Emblem Awakening will love this DLC, as much of the content is themed after the classic game.
I find hilarious that many hate on the Fates and Awakening characters, when almost every character from every FE game suffers fromt the same stuff (anime character stereotypes, one way or another). The best stories in the FE games are just "good" to me (meaning that fates wasn't even as bad as peope make it out to be since the standard wasn't so high), same with the characters, and to be honest, I found the Royal Siblings more entertaining and with a bit more of depth than many other FE characters from previous games simply because of the amount of interactions the game has, wich allowed that. I haven't played Echoes, but from what I've seen maybe that game is the one that sets apart their characters from said stereotypes, already doing that with the character design and voice acting. Also, I've never found stereotypes to be as bad as people think, there's a reason why they are sterotypes in this case and that's because those characters prove to be likeable and get fans easily, as long as they are justified and well applied. Anyway, I'm certainly baffled about that "incredible story and characters way ahead of Fates" that I didn't manage to see in the previous games. I would certainly prefer not to include the semi-dating sim which I found really uncomfortable, but it can be esily ignored. The gameplay on the other hand has been greatly enhanced and Fates (specially Conquest) finally balanced the new abilities, pairing and other things that have been added to deliver a more complete and fun strategy game. To each his own, I guess. By the way, I love FE and I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just really, really disagree about how "good" the previous entries were in terms of characters and story.
@MarcelRguez You are definitely right about the change of tone and the inferior main narrative in the last games and I think I failed to make that part clear: I do agree with most people on that, I just don't think it's that big of a difference since FE games normally have solid, yet quite basic main stories because that's all they need. The new entries have failed to accomplish even that, offering quite forgettable main narratives since as you said they have been more character-centric and while that's no excuse to have weak plots, having a decent character development (or at least better than in the past games) is an aspect most people don't even recognize in the last entries, talking of the previous games as if we had amazing, deep, unique characters with lots of development way ahead of the new ones, despite being the opposite. The characters from the previous games were barely developed, specially if they weren't from the main cast. Same with the gameplay, that while it lacked balance in Awakening, it was a big step forward in making the series more fun and appealing without sacrificing the core gameplay. Fates did it even better by balancing it's new aspects to offer a game with solid difficulty and with more deepness than the last entries.
I think that when they find a balance between the good main stories from the previous entries and the character development with the last games, along with constantly improving ad balancing the new gameplay (to be fair I would be satisfied if they start focusing more in the main story /character development balance) they'll deliver the ultimate FE experience. I just think that people can't seem to recognize that FE games have always lacked something, and that the cast from previous games being "way better than this new anime stereotypes" is absurd considering that they were always like that, but with less focus in them. In case someone misunderstands I'm not saying people can't like the previous ones and dislike the new ones, I'm saying that since always, the series has lacked character development until now, when they finally do that at the cost of a better overall story, which isn't worth the trade, but still something to recognize and criticize to allow the games to improve. Both old and new lacked, just in different aspects.
@Grumblevolcano
It may be possible that they are unlockable, but I doubt it. Having Ike as a main character from the beginning would be beneficial since he was so voted for in Heroes and he was still ignored.
Anyway, my main problem with Fates is how the main characters always excused Corrin's screw ups. At least in the past games characters either recognized they had screwed up (Hector recognizing that he had always avoided his duties as heir to Ositia, for example) or being called for them, like Micaiah in Radiant Dawn.
Corrin just does stupid things in all routes and Azura is merely a walking plot device. Specially in Conquest, which is a shame since it has good map design.
The biggiest problem with Fates IMO is how Conquest and Birthright are so "Hoshido = good and Norh = bad" and how Revelations is "Wait guys there is this third bigger guy and we have to team up, and set aside our differences to save the day!"
New trailer that focuses on Shadow Dragon characters and the rest (probably partly to fill in ... )
Also beware that spoilers are about. Footage from the game is somewhere on the internet, I’ve only heard about it and I have seen a couple screenshots.
Won’t spoil anything, but other characters are confirmed to be in the game.
It is unknown if they will be playable or not however. I’d assume so though, at least eventually.
Fates was released as two games with two different stories that happen to share the same beginning and cast.
The siblings, more so than the rest of the cast, have different motivations and intentions in the different paths. So, yeah, this is not just "Camilla", this is "The Camilla that joins Corrin in Conquest".
I dunno, but from the trailers it's clear to me that the Female Corrin comes with the Conquest bunch and the Male Corrin comes with the Birthright bunch.
I don't have the game or anything, so I don't know how involved they're in the story.
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