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Grumblevolcano

@JaxonH I imagine the worldwide release (first time in the franchise) is the main factor why Three Houses DLC hasn't been announced yet. DLC for the 3DS games were announced close to the Japan base game launch which meant months/years before the rest of the world get the base game.

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I am beyond ready for this game. I'm on information blackout until it drops (Aside from what was shown in the E3 trailer) but I've been listening to the few OST pieces in the wild nonstop. Love the theme song! Can't wait!

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Ralizah

@JaxonH I like the Three Houses approach to multiple campaigns, personally. Each of the houses will provide a fresh perspective on plot events, making it rewarding to play over again, but since all of the campaigns will cover the same set of plot beats, you don't feel like you're missing anything if you wait months or even years to play through the game again. Also, keeping it down to one plot instead of three allows the narrative to feel balanced and complete no matter which house you choose.

I'm pretty sure my choice will be the Golden Deer.

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JaxonH

@Grumblevolcano
That's actually a really good point. Now that you mention it, I do recall that being the case.

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Golden Deer is my 2nd pick. And ya, I definitely prefer this approach over Fates. I actually would have liked Fates approach just as much had they nailed the story and characters. Think they were just spread too thin though

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Tyranexx

I definitely wanna play this game, but I feel like I should play through a couple of backlogged titles first. Those titles being FE Fates: Birthright and Shadows of Valentia. I know there's no plot relation but also wanna get them off of my plate.

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DarthNocturnal

I still need to get Shadows... but circumstances around Fates kinda left me jaded. I have Birthright, but I've yet to play it. So Three Houses will probably be my first actual FE since Awakening.

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It's a shame Pokemon on Switch hasn't evolved like this franchise has.

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JaxonH

Not every franchise will make the same leaps.

That said I think Pokemon is looking absolutely delightful. If I were as much of a Pokemon fan as I am a Fire Emblem fan, I'd be just as excited.

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@JaxonH Pokemon looks really bland to me and this is someone who thinks Gen VI was the best.

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Fates was still, overall, a pretty great game. Story in Birthright wasn’t nearly as interesting as Awakening, and the characters were bland. Conquest had far better characters than Birthright but still fell short of Awakening’s, and the story was goofy. But I’ll be darned if it wasn’t some of the finest gameplay and best maps in the series to date. Even the DLC maps were better than most of the main maps in other mainline entries. Their map design was A game all the way. Even now Fates stands as my absolute favorite in the series when it comes to gameplay and map design.

Overall, Fates fell short, but overall it was still a pretty good game. When you have gameplay that good it really doesn’t matter how bad the story or characters are. They could literally strip out all the story and dialog, and the gameplay and map design would carry Fates.

Wouldn’t recommend playing it before Three Houses. But I would recommend playing them, at some point.

Echoes had way worse map design, and the gameplay was good but muted due to being a remake of the second game, and... The DLC was absolute garbage. But the story and characters were so good in that game, with surprisingly impressive voice acting, that it really made up for the more simplistic gameplay and maps. I’d recommend playing that one at some point too.

Of course, Three Houses is top priority now.

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My main complaint with Fates’ gameplay would be with the Pair Up mechanic and how the game overly revolves around it. The game is incredibly Aggro largely due to it and how frail most characters are. It basically forces you to either use it or get destroyed by the sheer number of enemies who will immediately pair up against you. So you’ll commonly have to turtle up and the game just breaks down to that

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@JaxonH

I think I was just in a low mood then. Getting caught off-guard with the whole three games (plus season pass) deal probably didn't help. And Canadian pricing, etc.

Shadows... just kinda slipped by. Although it wasn't the only one. I never did get DQ VIII like I meant to. My 3DS backlog is already absurd (although, so is my Switch backlog... I dunno, I rarely feel like playing it for whatever reason). So, what's a few more games?

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Heavyarms55

I feel like both this thread and the Pokemon Thread have turn into complaint-fests. :/

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Heavyarms55 wrote:

I feel like both this thread and the Pokemon Thread have turn into complaint-fests. :/

To be fair, everyone's mostly complaining about Fates for the umpteenth time rather than complaining about anything related to The Three Houses.

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Ralizah

Fates deserves what it gets. How the heck does anyone manage to sit down and write a scenario as stupid as the one we got in Conquest? And didn't they get a mangaka or something to come in and write the script specifically to avoid messing it up?!

Sometimes I regret selling my Fates SE cartridge, but this is purely a materialistic impulse to own something rare. I wouldn't play it. As far as I'm concerned, Three Houses is the next worthwhile FE game since Awakening.

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Snaplocket

Yeah, the writing in Fates (specifically Conquest and Revelations) is about as bad as it gets. The gameplay was fun though.

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Tyranexx

I don't intend to play Revelation, but I heard that it was the worst of the three in most departments. Is this true?

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JaxonH

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I think the writing was bad specifically because they outsourced to that guy. He wrote it like a cheap anime.

I think they thought that by hiring him the story would be done right. And it turned out it was way worse than the quality of their in-house writing, which we see them going back to with this entry.

FE games have never had award-winning stories in any of their titles, no matter how many of the OG fans say otherwise. I like Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn too, but it was still par for the course in the series. And while people like to crap on Awakening, I thought the story was about as good as any other game in the series. The difference was the incredible characters and dialog in support convos. That’s what really elevated that game above the rest.

But this game, to me, feels like IS went back to the drawing board and said ok, dude screwed up the writing the last time we tried this, and we spread ourselves too thin with 3 releases, and we need to dial back on the anime fan service and apply a little more tact for this return to console entry. And the quality really shows it, I think. This game looks like what IS wanted to do before, but with proper execution and the benefit of learning from past mistakes, what works and what doesn’t, what’s well received and what isn’t, all while pushing into new territory with exciting new Persona-inspired gameplay additions.

It’ll all come out in the wash in the end, but from where I’m sitting I don’t think I can muster a single complaint about what I’ve seen so far with this game.

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@JaxonH Yeah, the writing in the previous games aren't Shakespearean or anything (Echoes is probably the best storywise but even then it was a fairly standard fare fantasy plot), but Fates make those games look like Stephen King or George R. R. Martin in comparison. I only played Birthright and thought the writing was mediocre at best whereas Conquest and Revelations were up there with Sonic '06 in terms of writing and no, I'm not exaggerating.
ALL THAT SAID! I don't like how everyone's saying it's a bad game just because the story sucks. Gameplay should be more important ( for the most part), unless your one of those guys who thinks it's the least important part for some reason.

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ALL THAT SAID! I don't like how everyone's saying it's a bad game just because the story sucks. Gameplay should be more important ( for the most part), unless your one of those guys who thinks it's the least important part for some reason.

And that is why I still enjoyed Fates. I didn’t enjoy as much as Awakening, but I really did enjoy the game simply because, as you say, the gameplay was immaculate. You could literally skip the cut scenes and conversations and just play the strategy aspect, and it was still better than 99% of other strategy games on the market.

That being said, I would have enjoyed it all the more if it had immaculate gameplay and an excellent story and great characters with solid dialog. Thankfully, Three Houses seems to be the full package and then some.

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