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link3710

Why does the Switch Lite play into this at all? The lite and 'Pro' will clearly have different feature sets and target audiences. After all, a 'Pro' is clearly not going to have the Lite's small form factor.

Now, if they wait a few years I could see them doing what they did with the New line of 3DSes and have two models one for each size, but otherwise I think it'll only replace the main model and leave the Lite as it is

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link3710 wrote:

Why does the Switch Lite play into this at all?

In May last year Nikkei reported that the Switch Mini and Switch Pro were both at varying stages of development. The Mini portion of the report was confirmed as the Lite arrived six months later. If that was true then it's fair to assume the Pro portion of the report was true as well.

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Increasing internal storage seems like a low hanging fruit option for an upgrade.

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Magician wrote:

link3710 wrote:

Why does the Switch Lite play into this at all?

In May last year Nikkei reported that the Switch Mini and Switch Pro were both at varying stages of development. The Mini portion of the report was confirmed as the Lite arrived six months later. If that was true then it's fair to assume the Pro portion of the report was true as well.

Many, many people talked about a "Switch Mini" before it was revealed. I don't think that adds any weight to Nikkei's prediction.

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@Woomy_NNYes Honestly, rather than more internal storage, I think a second SD card slot would be better. Having 2 slots would make it easy to have a huge amount of additional storage but would be cheaper for the console. I know I would just stick my old 256GB card in right next to the 400GB I am currently using.

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@Heavyarms55 I never really thought about that before, but that would be a pretty good solution I think. With the way SD cards keep getting cheaper, it would end up being a relatively inexpensive way to drastically increase your storage space.

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SwitchForce

What I like to see it bigger internal Storage for data as that doesn't save onto the sd cards. They could at least make it at least 200gb that would helps with game data/saves.

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I can see a Switch Docked/Portable 1080p @60fps or switch(pun) on portable between 720/1080p options. A 4K docked that would be increased thermal problems that would have to need alot of R&D to figure thermal cooling options first. They could in theory make one but it's the cooling that will hold it from coming out anytime soon if they can get past that then this would be great. But as in anything Die shrinking causes thermal conductivitity issue. Just look at iNtel going 10nm CPU they claim and claim and failed so much it's a comedy act. And now only limited are getting 10nm CPU so that should tell you something. So til Nintendo can overcome 4K 1080p 60fps thermal overload we won't for the foreseeable future see that level of Portable Switch a more likely outcome will be Portable 720/1080p Switch when in Portable mode stable constant @60fps.

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Shadowthrone

Nintendo pretty much shut this down at an investors presentation today - "Regarding Nintendo Switch, we believe that it is important to continue to communicate the appeal of both Nintendo Switch systems and expand the installed base. Please note that we have no plans to launch a new Nintendo Switch model during 2020."
That's a lot more specific than they usually are when they're hiding something upcoming, specifically saying no plans for 2020, as opposed to a vague 'no plans at all'.

The entire thing can be read here:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200131_2e.pdf

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link3710

@Cotillion I'm in full agreement. But we're still going to have to deal with a full year full of speculation regardless.

Edit: Also, reading between the lines they mention that
A: This isn't even halfway through the Switch's life
B: They have plans to extend the life beyond conventional lengths they aren't prepared to disclose.

In other words, there's definitely another model coming at... some point.

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Cotillion wrote:

Nintendo pretty much shut this down at an investors presentation today - "Regarding Nintendo Switch, we believe that it is important to continue to communicate the appeal of both Nintendo Switch systems and expand the installed base. Please note that we have no plans to launch a new Nintendo Switch model during 2020."
That's a lot more specific than they usually are when they're hiding something upcoming, specifically saying no plans for 2020, as opposed to a vague 'no plans at all'.

The entire thing can be read here:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200131_2e.pdf

So in other words there is a NEW model In-Development and Testing phase.....

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rallydefault

Yea, I mean, I don't believe anybody with what they say anymore lol

How many games have we consistently seen for Switch that were "no plans" or "not in development" or perhaps just "in consideration"? Spyro, the Blizzard games, Witcher, DOOM/Wolfenstein.

Yea, this is hardware, so it's different. But the Switch just can't go another 4 years without some kind of upgrade available for power. AAA third-parties will soon be completely off the table if we're stuck with this normal model past the launch of the new Xbox and PlayStation. Switch has already sold well, so it wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would turn into a 1st-party and indie shovelware machine just like the Wii U and the Wii, and Nintendo would be scrambling to, once again, enter the next generation halfway through in an awkward stance with a console that may or may not quickly burn out like the Wii U and Gamecube.

I say put out a more powerful model early in 2021 after the hype over Xbox/PS dies down a bit. March of 2021 could pretty much be the halfway mark for the Switch lifespan. Treat it like you did with the New 3DS. Vast majority of games will be playable on any model of Switch, but an option there to require the Pro if a developer makes it necessary. This will keep the door open for those AAA games that are important. After a year or so they can bring the Pro price down to be more in line with the regular model, and you can have the last 2-3 years of the Switch to pretty much completely phase in the Pro models just like Xbox/PS did with their upgraded versions.

It's entirely possible to make a Switch that, at the very least docked if not portable, can be at the power level of a moderate gaming PC for around 350-400 bucks. Tech has progressed a lot in the last 4 years. 1080p at medium settings is not asking a lot even for the most recent AAA stuff.

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SwitchForce

@rallydefault there lies the rub all they need is a 720/1080p portable mode and 1080p Docked all running at stable 60fps. This will more or less kill any brewhaha from xvox/psppoor of which only upscale 4k not true 4K running let alone any true 4K games. Which would alone cost close to $100000 to buy.

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Atomic77

The Switch still has a long life a head of it. The Lite just came out in September 2019. It’s probably good that they don’t have anything new in regards to a new Switch this year because people would be going crazy.

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SwitchForce

@Atomic77 actually they did with v2 release gamers were upgrading v1 to v2. I did that as well. Some won't and there nothing wrong there but if graphics gets a upgrade and CPU performance boost then that changes the game.

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Atomic77

I suppose. I would not know.

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Shadowthrone

I'm not sure the PS5 release date matters much. Nintendo has the market for portable consoles, being the only game in town doing it right.
The other consoles are waging a battle that Switch can never hope to compete in - the spec war. A portable doing what the home consoles can would be crazy expensive. You want a powerful game system tethered to your TV, you have 3 options - PC, PS or XB. You want a good portable console, you have one real choice - Switch.
Nintendo is sitting in the position of not directly competing, but rather as a companion to any of the other systems because they do offer something different that the others simply can't.
I think Nintendo is just going to ride out the launch of the others and really do nothing this year in terms of hardware and maybe do something next year instead.

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Cotillion wrote:

I'm not sure the PS5 release date matters much.

NintenDoomed naysayers would say otherwise.

Cotillion wrote:

Nintendo has the market for portable consoles, being the only game in town doing it right.

That doesn't equate to sitting back and waiting. They have to innovate if they want to keep that market share.

Cotillion wrote:

The other consoles are waging a battle that Switch can never hope to compete in - the spec war. A portable doing what the home consoles can would be crazy expensive.

NIN never said that it's the NintenDoomed camp that keeps saying and spouting this misleading talking point.

Cotillion wrote:

You want a powerful game system tethered to your TV, you have 3 options - PC, PS or XB. You want a good portable console, you have one real choice - Switch.

Want a Powerful Game System get a Desktop/Laptop SLI/CF setup with 4K 1440/120hz 60fps monitor- your TV isn't up to snuff for gaming. This setup will blow away any ps/xbox setup has to offer. Also that price would also blow ps/xbox out of the universe as well but heck you can claim the most powerful gaming system.

Cotillion wrote:

Nintendo is sitting in the position of not directly competing, but rather as a companion to any of the other systems because they do offer something different that the others simply can't.

Again more NintenDoomed talking point. They already said they aren't but people keep forgetting that. It's the Developers making or porting or re-mastering(Witcher 3) for the Switch.

Cotillion wrote:

I think Nintendo is just going to ride out the launch of the others and really do nothing this year in terms of hardware and maybe do something next year instead.

Riding out isn't a game anyone wants to play-they need to think of the next step why else was the Lite released. Sure it has no TV connection maybe future model might get this with a Dock or connection hardware. That would be the next progression.
@Cotillion but one forgets to notice NintenDoomed always want to make this comparison regardless when told Switch has it's player base but the NintenDoomed naysayers keep beating the drums as though that will boost their game.

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Shadowthrone

@SwitchForce I think you misinterpreted my meaning. 'Sitting back and waiting' and 'riding it out' didn't mean resting on their laurels. I'm sure they're working on the next phase for Switch, but I meant I just think they aren't really concerned about PS5 and they're playing the game their own way. They'll release something new when they feel the time is right and not dictated by whatever Sony is doing in the spec war as it's not a war Nintendo has been in since the GCN.

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