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EDWARD4444

I love the Switch 2 for what i have seen. However at nearly £400 pounds in the UK is being too much for a console. Who else is waiting for a Switch 2 Lite or the price to come down under £300?. Given that most of the new releases of games will be on Switch 2 and not Switch 1.

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metaphysician

What makes you think the MSRP will ever go down? Also, by what standard do you determine that 400 is "too much for a console"? Do you mean that 400 is more than you personally wish to spend for a device with the Switch 2's features and library? In which case, wouldn't the most likely future be "the Switch 2 eventually does become worth 400 to you, as its library expands"?

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Matt_Barber

Yes, it's expensive but if you look at comparable devices with similar feature sets, you're getting what you pay for.

Given the spiraling cost of RAM and other essential components, the next move in price seems a lot more likely to be up than down too.

That said, individual retailers have occasionally been selling them at a discount so it's worth snapping one up if you ever come across it.

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Tasuki

You could always pay $900 for a PS5 Pro. So given that the price of a Switch 2 isnt that bad.

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Haruki_NLI

£400 for what you get, honestly, is pretty good. Most comparable devices run over £500, and in the UK generally that's the "Oof" line on price. Would people have paid £400 for a PS5 in 2020? Yes. Are they paying £600 now? Yep.

Price elasticity is a fun concept, and £400 is the sweet spot.

Of course I fully expect Count Binface to appear in this thread and bemoan the CPU and RAM limitations of the hardware while caressing AMD stocks, and the exchange rate relative to what other countries are paying as if it's not a global product and some regions subsidies others somewhat and all that.

People pay what they wanna pay. But the price ain't even coming down unless something exceptional happens. It'll hold for now, but may go up if the world we've been living in since 2015 continues.

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BonzoBanana

The price in the UK is shocking, the basic Switch 2 console suggested selling price is £395 but if you do a comparison with Japan with a yen to £ conversion they pay £235 or did when I last checked which was about a month ago. I bought my Switch 2 as a tablet only for £235 from ebay and then bought the other bits separately but I have a third party dock which was £8 I think after the quidco cashback bonus and cashback and other discounts.

I paid;

Console £235
Dock £8
PSU £9
Third party joy-cons (which I only used to setup the console) £28
Third party controller enclosure £18 (this is what I use all the time for gaming on Switch 2)
Mario Kart World digital code £29

So I paid about £280 for the console with third party dock and joy-cons. Please note the reason I got these prices was that Quidco were offering a £7.50 bonus on top of normal cashback for aliexpress on a few occasions and I have two Quidco accounts. That drove the price down a fair bit.

You still see Switch 2 tablets for sale on ebay cheap. I know many people don't like third party products so worth keeping an eye on ebay all the time as you often see complete Switch 2's there for a good price and often there is a discount code to use. I think £300 is a realistic price to pay if you keep your eyes peeled.

There is a 10% difference in sales tax between Japan and the UK but ultimately I feel the Switch 2 price should have been about £330 in the UK and about £370 with Mario Kart suggested selling price, the price Nintendo charges here and Europe is completely unfair and surely the main reason the Switch 2 has performed so badly in Europe compared to Japan and US. However on the positive side there is a huge overstock software problem in the UK so many Nintendo Switch 2 titles are seriously discounted at retail to clear stock even below Japanese prices at times.

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Late

@BonzoBanana Fair to keep in mind that the JP price you seem to use for comparison is for the Japanese only region locked model which only exists because yen is very weak at the moment. In fact, it's the weakest it's been since 1990. The model that matches ours costs 20000 yen more, which granted, is still less than in other regions.

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@BonzoBanana Fair to keep in mind that the JP price you seem to use for comparison is for the Japanese only region locked model which only exists because yen is very weak at the moment. In fact, it's the weakest it's been since 1990. The model that matches ours costs 20000 yen more, which granted, is still less than in other regions.

I've heard that point before but completely disagree with it. Firstly the Japanese only model has identical manufacturing costs to the international version with only the firmware differing. The Switch 2 is manufactured outside Japan so the low value of the yen means a higher cost importing into Japan so that isn't a valid point either. Basically Nintendo charges non-Japanese a lot more for the Switch 2 hardware and software as policy and this time around its a ridiculous difference. Europe doesn't have the tariffs of the US and yet Nintendo has decided Europe will pay the tariffs of the US with far higher pricing. I don't like it and think its completely unfair but the end of the day Nintendo can charge what they like and Europeans can decide not to buy it if the price is unfair which clearly many Europeans have done.

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Haruki_NLI

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metaphysician

If you complain about the relative price of the console between different regions based on exchange rates? You are advocating for region-locking. Do you want to support and encourage region-locking? If yes, don't beat around the bush and pretend otherwise.

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Haruki_NLI

@metaphysician It's all that user does. That and wax lyrical about x86 being better, or jam a bigger battery in there, like AMD has the family hostage.

In fact it's so one note now, you can see it coming in a thread, like I did above. Always exchange rates, parts, and speculated build cost. Then anecdotal evidence of poor sales.

Unfortunately, I think this is the cycle now, and it'll never be broken with Switch 2. People have the mindset, even if it passes 120m people still won't acknowledge it has been a success.

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@Haruki_NLI

Possibly the most annoying aspect, to me, is that the talk of build costs is a complete non-sequitur. The value to the consumer is not determined by how much money is spent making a product. The value is determined by what it actually does, and how well this matches the desires of the consumer. Just like a company wasting billions making a product that doesn't do anything useful, does not obligate me to pay them more money for an undesirable product? Similarly a company making a desirable product for a low cost through smart design decisions doesn't obligate them to sell it for a lower price than if they were more profligate.

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Uncle_Franklin

You'll be waiting a long time.

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BonzoBanana

metaphysician wrote:

If you complain about the relative price of the console between different regions based on exchange rates? You are advocating for region-locking. Do you want to support and encourage region-locking? If yes, don't beat around the bush and pretend otherwise.

I'm not sure what you mean the Switch 2 model in Japan is already region and language locked which is why it is unsuitable for importing into other countries so we already have that but there is no reason pricing can't be fair and the model is sold at different prices is region unlocked. Often you would lose warranty by doing so but if the savings were huge like the comparison between Europe and Japan it would be worth doing but Nintendo has prevented anyone outside Japan importing the Japanese model and using it region free. If the region price differences were only 20% most people wouldn't bother but if the UK price is 70% more than the Japanese price then it would be worthwhile.

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BonzoBanana

Haruki_NLI wrote:

@metaphysician It's all that user does. That and wax lyrical about x86 being better, or jam a bigger battery in there, like AMD has the family hostage.
In fact it's so one note now, you can see it coming in a thread, like I did above. Always exchange rates, parts, and speculated build cost. Then anecdotal evidence of poor sales.

Unfortunately, I think this is the cycle now, and it'll never be broken with Switch 2. People have the mindset, even if it passes 120m people still won't acknowledge it has been a success.

Success is easy to gauge by sales figures and so no one is going to argue against sales figures surely. I've said repeatedly it has been a sales success in Japan and to a lesser extent USA just not so much in Europe. It is a much slower start here with lots of evidence to support it. I've made the case the Steam Deck is better than Switch 2 in many ways but don't think I've argued to say x86 is better in general.

Obviously the cost of manufacturing the Switch 2 and its bill of materials is the same whether it is exported from Vietnam to Japan or Europe. There is going to be extra shipping costs but its a tiny unit and you can get tons in a container. That difference is going to be a few cents. So much of what you have written makes no sense at all. I own a Steam Deck and Switch 2 so my perspective is often formed by owning both systems and seeing what they both can do and what support each has. Lots of people have a childish polarised viewpoint in that what they have bought has to be defended I don't have that I just state my unbiased opinions which I feel are true. It is the same on forums with Steam Deck users where if you state you also have a Switch 2 people will say why did you buy that rubbish or words to that effect. That is just the childish way many people think. Both are good systems with lots of positives and negatives. It's a fair point about Nintendo's unfair pricing in Europe and to be honest it is a fair point about me complaining about it. I've watched recent videos on youtube where they have shown ridiculous food pricing in the US, hugely more expensive than in the UK for various food items and generally much less safe too with more dangerous additives so there is always good and bad to pricing in any country or region. I don't need to talk about that as I'm happy with the situation of paying much less.

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