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ElRoberico

Let’s not forget that realistic looking games from all sixth generation consoles don’t hold up as well as they could since everything else does it better.

But yeah, I’d do questionable things for more GameCube games, but I’d also want proper Prime 2 and 3 remasters on Switch 1/2. I tried playing Prime Remastered with classic controls and a GameCube controller, and it was rough.

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I have no experience with Dolphin/GCN emulation on PC, but purely based on modern console emulation, vs the real hardware, software paired with a CRT, you can't even compare it purely based on lag and the prestine blur-free sub or 1ms persistence of CRT motion clarity. It puts QD-OLED/OLED TV's to complete shame unless you're running games at 120fps. 120fps cuts down 50% of OLED motion blur, so you're half way there, but there's still 50% of the blur eating up the display.

I can' speak for NS2 either. Still dont' have one, but I've heard in handheld mode it's LCD/LED display has a notably slower motion response time than NS1 OLED's display, and that right there would drive me batty. I don't game in handheld, but my niece's NS1 OLED has such a wonderul picture. Zero black crush unlike LG's WOLED TV's of today, it has a little less motion blur surprisingly, it gets bright enough and colors look RGB-like, and have plenty of volume. The picture looks phenomenal and is dialed in to perfection, minus the lack of CRT motion. Problem is, it's still just a 7" display, and i need 55 or 65". That's where glossy QD-OLED(Samsung's 2025 S90F) comes into play.

But for GCN. As little interest that i have in replaying it at this point, if i had more space and was willing to put the money in, I'd grab a 32" 2006 Sony WEGA CRT off Market Place, use component cables, grab a memory card or two, 4 official wired controllers, an actual GCN and the actual discs.

There's a real lack of apprecation on my end whenever i see older games being displayed on modern TV's, no matter how good the CRT Filters are that are being applied, including the true blacks & high brightness of QD-OLED, the motion just can't compete against CRT, or that instantaneous button responsonse from a lag free CRT. With OLED, it looks artificial.

I hate being binded to a subcription service/monthly fee with a slow drip release schedual. The only way I could properly enjoy NSO is if I were playing it on a CRT TV. lol that would shave off 10ms of latency vs an OLED TV(So then you're left with NSO emulation latency only, and controller lag) and I'd get that true CRT 'look' and perfect motion. This was the exact case on my end during the Wii + VC era, when i gamed on my awesome 32" 4:3/FullScreen Sony WEGA(Plus component cables) which i bought brand new at my local bestbuy in 2006. Best way to experience Wii games hands down, and it was the final SD console ever too. Audio is also just as imporant as the picture. If you can get away with a great 5.1/5.2 Surround system, then a high end pair of headphones with a Dac/Amp should be your last resort.

heck, even something like Sennheiser's latest HD555(Open Back) can's will give you fantastic audio for the money. Paired with something like a Fosi ZH3 DAC.

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squiddu-real

reading that i just heard cash register noises in my head. you gotta keep in mind how unattainable that is for most, especially since we're still dealing with high prices for a lot of gcn games

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@squiddu-real
Gotta do what I did: Find a big ol' CRT somebody put on the curb for free lol

Then grab a GameCube for roughly a hundred bucks depending on condition, a couple games for about 50 (just the discs; CiB is insane), and you're off to the races.

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PsychoIsaac

I play path of radiance on NSO GC from time to time.

It's not my fave game or even my fave fire emblem, but the gameplay loop is simple and satisfying enough.

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nomither6

@ElRoberico “ Let’s not forget that realistic looking games from all sixth generation consoles don’t hold up as well as they could”

False, they look amazing on Dolphin

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PsychoIsaac

Okay I agree now, we need some more GC games, there isn't enough.

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kkslider5552000

I can't argue against how embarrassingly slow the releases are, but they could still release zero other games other than the two still confirmed and I could easily get 100+ hours just out of the games there, and they're basically all worth putting a decent amount of time into (even if Pokemon Colosseum is a go to example of a game that disappointed me, thank you hyperbolic previews implying this game could in any way have been "dark" or "have story depth at all"). These are basically all games hardcore Nintendo fans should play, a lot of which most of them haven't, and at least half are legitimately and obviously great. (and the absolute worst ones are decent)

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@kkslider5552000 I don't think I've ever seen anyone say Colosseum has "story depth", it doesn't. Neither does XD for that matter. The dark elements are overrated too. The only "dark" elements they have are Colosseum's protagonist being an evil team member turned good for reasons that are never specified (and aside from a few passing mentions here and there, they do absolutely nothing with it and usually just ignore that detail and treat him like a normal protagonist), the evil team basically abusing Pokemon into aggressive fighting machines but it's not specified how (only that they "close the door to the Pokemon's heart" whatever that means), and many of the game's settings being on the grittier side (and even then, they toned this down a bit in XD). This duology is far from being an M rated mindfreak, it's just better about this relative to the main series games.

The main reason to play those games (or at least now that the main series is on console) is for the novelty of catching other trainers' Pokemon. That (and maybe the animations and models being subtly better) is the primary advantage Colosseum/XD have over the main series, it's pretty much the same or even worse in other ways. Still worth playing, but it's not going to blow you away as being vastly superior for those who are unsatisfied with the quality of recent Pokemon games (you're probably waiting to see if WiWa is any good for that).

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