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Reala

Don't believe it, HD support is pretty much guaranteed but blu-ray I seriously doubt that.

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Stuffgamer1

It sounds plausible. After all, Nintendo JUST proved that leaks of semi-outlandlish news can be true with the DSi XL. I like the idea of the Wii trade-up program, simply because it seems to imply trading your old Wii in to NINTENDO, which might hold a provision for transferal of downloaded games. It's something to keep in mind, anyway.

@Reala: Why doubt Blu-ray? It would make sense. Microsoft has proven that DVD's are not a good storage system for HD gaming with several multi-disc releases and routinely over-compressed games. The fact that Blu-ray would likely help cut back on certain forms of piracy is quite true as well (fewer people will have the tech to burn an illegal copy).

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Ark

Yeah, Blu-Ray does seem rather odd but I guess you never know with Nintendo. Maybe it's an elaborate scheme to get pirates to trade in their Wiis to get the new one with its superior anti-piracy features.
If it's possible to trade in your Wii directly to Nintendo to get your games playable on the "Wii 2" then there's really few reasons not to upgrade if you have the original. Well actually, you'd lost save data of things like Animal Crossing or Brawl which can't be copied though(not that that really matters since it would die or be obsolete eventually anyway). I hope this is true, it could possibly restore my love for the Wii.

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Reala

Well it is a Sony product, though others might be producing them by now not sure, also Nintendo seem to go with specialized disks based on recent consoles.

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Stuffgamer1

@zss_shadow: Actually, Nintendo has the in-house ability to copy those save files over as well (as proven by reports from a number of people who have had repairs done by Nintendo), so even that trade-off is moot!

@Reala: The Wii disc seems more similar to regular DVD than the GCN disc was. I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on to a more standard format with the next console, especially since Blu-ray has its own advantages that would keep it secure anyway.

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Ark

I wouldn't say Blue-Ray IS Sony's per se, but is actually owned by over 20 companies. At least I've read that from several places, I don't know the whole truth of it.

Also, don't forget what Blu-Ray could do for games. Nintendo's dual-layered disks give less than 10GB while a dual-layered Blue-Ray disk can give...50GB.

EDIT: Really? No excuses for not upgrading then. =D

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Stuffgamer1

It's not even what Blu-ray could theoretically do for games, because it's already happening on the PS3. We KNOW the format is amazing with video games, which is why it would be logical for the other companies to adopt it. Both of them have a history of their own brands of stubbornness, but I could still see it happen this time. Just give it time.

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Ark

Only thing I'm worried about is why would it be called "Wii2?" When the Wii 2 is supposedly released, that would be about four years from the originalI think. That's an awfully short life span to be calling it Wii2, which implies it is the successor.

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Stuffgamer1

Considering the Wii was underpowered right out of the door (in a comparative market sense, of course), having its successor a little early kind of makes sense, if you think about it.

One thing I'm a bit concerned about: Will it still have GCN compatability? If not, I couldn't just simply trade up, because I'd lose the ability to play my GCN games if I did!

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Reala

DVD's used to be tough for pirates too, as blu ray becomes ever cheaper I'm sure the pirates will turn their attention to it, just like with DVD, I'm sure Nintendo will go with more storage on their next disks whatever they are, but I doubt we will be watching blu ray movies on it though.

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warioswoods

If Nintendo were to follow this route, I wonder whether or not older Wii games would be internally upscaled to output at a higher resolution. I also wonder whether something like Motion Plus would be built in for each controller (but with a form factor that would still fit into the Wheel, etc).

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Stuffgamer1

I never said we'd be watching movies on the system either way. Blu-ray is a disc standard, not an implication that the device can play movies.

@Warioswoods: There would probably be upscaling available. I don't think there's any such thing as an HD machine that doesn't upscale non-HD formats at current, and I don't think even Nintendo would be dumb enough to be the first. I also expect Motion Plus functionality to be built in, and they probably could fit it into the smaller space at that. Maybe better speakers on the controllers, too...that would be a VERY welcome upgrade!

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Reala

Stuffgamer1 wrote:

I never said we'd be watching movies on the system either way. Blu-ray is a disc standard, not an implication that the device can play movies.

Nobody is accusing you of claiming anything, I was just expressing my thoughts, not attacking anybody in doing so.

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Stuffgamer1

@Reala: Yeah, I guess I get that. Your statement just seems a bit non sequitor taken in that context, basically bringing up a point that wasn't part of the discussion. I answered in the only way I could think of that made it seem like it DID fit into the discussion. Anyway, I agree that movie playback will most likely not be a feature.

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Ark

You make a good point. Looking at amount of years between Xbox1 and 360, it wouldn't be ridiculous to released the Wii 2 so soon if they're getting a jump start.

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Stuffgamer1

@roro44: That's verrrrrry interesting...thanks for the info!

I wouldn't say that making an HD Wii is loco, though. The DSi XL, maybe...but not the HD Wii. Assuming they DO find a way to let us upgrade without losing downloaded games and save data, of course.

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skywake

That talk people keep quoting from a while ago where some Nintendo execs said "HD is inevitable". In that same talk-thing Miyamoto said that a HD Nintendo platform could co-exist with the SD Wii. From memory he said that games "like Wii Fit" that don't need the extra resolution could be made for the people who want that sort of games while games "like Pikmin" do with the extra resolution. If true this could/would be more like the Wii's DSi

....... if Super Mario Galaxy 2, Pikmin 3 and the next Zelda become Wii2/WiiHD exclusives....... I'll have to buy it.....

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Adam

The vast majority of Wii owners would not see the need to upgrade. Especially considering how few games the average Wii owner purchases to begin with, many getting it just for Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

You can't produce an "upgrade" with a new disc format to begin with. That would make it a brand new system since the old Wii would not be able to play Bluray games. Trading in Wiis would be really expensive for Nintendo, and they'd have no use for a warehouse full of outdated systems.

The only explanation I could see would be if they were taking a PS2/PS3 route, continuing to support an older console for a few more years for one audience, while pushing ahead with a new fancier console for a much smaller audience... but that doesn't seem like Nintendo, and with Galaxy 2 and Other M already scheduled for Wii this year, it's not like there'd be one game to make users want to upgrade, unless these are both early 2010 releases while there is something secret planned for Bluray. I think many Wii users would feel jipped if they were forced to buy a new console for the big holiday release.

It just doesn't add up, not for 2010, certainly.

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