Topic: Who Killed Rare?

If Smash Bros isn't a hardcore game, then why is it the only fighting game that takes actual skill to beat a human opponent. I mean, i've played the Tekkens and Soul Caliburs with my friend, and the ending result is always the same: Out of 100 matches both of us wins approximately 50. He plays with "skill" and i play mostly with smashing buttons randomly.
In Smash Bros Melee, on the other, my winning percent is about 95 against anyone i've palyed against. In this game, you just can't beat a skilled opponent with just smashing buttons, that's almost impossible.

If you want to play a real button-mashing game, play Marvel vs Capcom.

When Need for Speed/Gran Turismo/Forza/Burnout introduce green shells, red shells, banana peels, blue shells, lightning, stars etc. then I will class it in the same category as Mario Kart/SASAST/MDR. If you were to play Need for Speed/Gran Turismo/Forza/Burnout, you would know that there is more to the racing than just holding down a button and moving the control stick.

Mario Kart, is a simplistic party version of the kart racing game, but in no way can it be placed in the same category as Need for Speed/Gran Turismo/Forza/Burnout.

I've already learned you cannot beat any experienced player by button mashing in Marvel.

So yea, I, for one, am definitely looking forward to Banjo-Threeie. I never played the Banjo games when they were on the N64, but I really liked the HD re-releases on Xbox Live Arcade. Also, I really liked Viva Pinata and I prefer the Xbox Avatars to Nintendo's Miis.

There isn't going to be any Banjo Threeie. Rare is now focused solely on Kinect games.

All the racing games that came out before Gran Turismo weren't party games.

When I think of a party game, I think of Mario Party, Wii Sports, Kinect Sports, etc. Games with simplistic minigames designed to be played in short bursts.

When you guys say "party game" do you mean the same thing as "casual game"? If so, then yes, Mario Kart is a casual racing game.

How long do you play Mario Kart for?

But it's simplistic racing, and doesn't reflect racing around a full scaled racetrack.

I checked Wikipedia and it said Rare is indeed currently focusing on Kinect, but is rumored to be working on a Mature title for the next Xbox..., so maybe a new...
Killer Instinct or Conker or Perfect Dark?

So? It's still racing. That's what the racing genre is all about. Just like how Street Fighter is still a fighting game, even though it has huge combos and super-powered moves.

Don't check Wikipedia, check Rare's own website.

http://rare.co.uk/company

We've been on the scene under the Rare name for 25 years, and as Ultimate our legacy stretches back further still.
Established in 1985 to focus on the expanding console market, we partnered with Nintendo and sealed a reputation for quality with titles ranging from Donkey Kong Country to GoldenEye.

The acquisition of Rare by Microsoft Game Studios came about in 2002. We went on to support the Xbox 360 debut with two of the three launch games, Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero. Subsequent years saw us innovate with Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, the Viva Piñata franchise and our pioneering work on Xbox 360 Avatars.

We continue to target top-tier development at both our custom-built rural HQ and new Birmingham facility. The boundless opportunities afforded by Microsoft’s Kinect are our current source of inspiration.

The mention of Donkey Kong Country was a nice shout out to their past with Nintendo.

A racing video game is a genre of video games, either in the first-person or third-person perspective, in which the player partakes in a racing competition with any type of land, air, or sea vehicles. They may be based on anything from real-world racing leagues to entirely fantastical settings. In general, they can be distributed along a spectrum anywhere between hardcore simulations, and simpler arcade racing games.

Party games are video games developed specifically for multiplayer games between many players. Normally, party games have a variety of mini-games that range between collecting more of a certain item than other players or having the fastest time at something. Such games include the Mario Party series, Crash Boom Bang!, and Rayman Raving Rabbids. Versus multiplayer games are not generally considered to be party games.

Nintendo decided to make Smash Bros. more unique than other fighting games, with it's focus on ringouts and full character movement, and you all say "it's not a real fighting game cause it doesn't play like Soul Calibur, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter."

That's the charm of Smash Bros., the fact that it plays so differently than other fighting games, yet it still retains the basic elements of the genre. Not every fighting game has to be two opponents in a boxed-in arena with a health bar above their heads.

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There isn't going to be any Banjo Threeie. Rare is now focused solely on Kinect games.[/quote

Rare's next project is rumored to be banjo threeie. And honestly dude they worked o two kinect games how does that make them focused on kinect? Thats like saying twsited pixel or lionhead are kinect focused for making a kinect game.

@shingi_70 From our sister site KINECTaku, a quote from Rare incubation director Nick Burton:

"I truly see a world where everything is Kinect-enabled in some way, but it shouldn't be, "oh, here's the Kinect moment." But there are interactions where it just makes sense for the console to know what I'm doing. I was talking to someone about this yesterday – if I'm playing a shooter and I look down for a second at the joypad because I've forgotten the controls, why doesn't the game pause?"

Rare is Kinect-focused but perhaps won't make all its games Kinect-only — there's scope for so-called "hybrid" games that combine pad and sensor.

Anyway, as you were.

So you'll now actually be the bear and bird?
_{I call shotgun on co-op with lz}

Hybrid games seem to be the way to go. Your playing a shooter and instead of stupid cool looking QTE's you get stupid and cool looking kinect movement events.

Not sure why they didnt spliy rare into three teams.
The Avatar team
The Kinect team
A team dedicated to making xbla games.

Right on Rare's website ( http://www.rare.co.uk/company ), it says this:

We've been on the scene under the Rare name for 25 years, and as Ultimate our legacy stretches back further still.
Established in 1985 to focus on the expanding console market, we partnered with Nintendo and sealed a reputation for quality with titles ranging from Donkey Kong Country to GoldenEye.

The acquisition of Rare by Microsoft Game Studios came about in 2002. We went on to support the Xbox 360 debut with two of the three launch games, Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero. Subsequent years saw us innovate with Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts, the Viva Piñata franchise and our pioneering work on Xbox 360 Avatars.

We continue to target top-tier development at both our custom-built rural HQ and new Birmingham facility. The boundless opportunities afforded by Microsoft’s Kinect are our current source of inspiration.