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jump

@Pizzamorg Nah, at one point there was almost a daily new BOTW sucks thread in the forum. My favourites ones were the people who have never actually played the game try to argue it was the worse game ever but came undone very quickly.

In any case read that again but imagine a sarcastic winky emoji at the end and it's making a point on how people like to bitch, rant and complain no matter what.

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I voted Yonder the Cloud Catcher Chronicles over than Zelda BOTW.
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Eel

@jump well since a new game will come out, hopefully this year, Breath of the Wild will finally graduate from being the cool new game in the series to dislike.

Perhaps since it’s taking so long, people want to start the cycle earlier.

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jump

@Eel But there's a perfectly good Tri Force Heroes people can hate on!

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Pizzamorg

jump wrote:

@Pizzamorg Nah, at one point there was almost a daily new BOTW sucks thread in the forum. My favourites ones were the people who have never actually played the game try to argue it was the worse game ever but came undone very quickly.

In any case read that again but imagine a sarcastic winky emoji at the end and it's making a point on how people like to bitch, rant and complain no matter what.

I just think BOTW is a victim of it's own hype machine. It is a great game, but so ludicrously overhyped, it sets up almost everyone for disappointment.

I think so much of the bitterness comes from all of the over promises from games media, which makes you think you're getting a worse experience than what you're getting, when really games media should have celebrated what the game does well and set expectations around the things that weren't so good, so people knew what they were getting and could just celebrate that fact.

Like I say, all the stuff about like "the evolution of the open world game" or whatever is frankly nonsense, especially if you have played open world games on other platforms, and just sets someone up for completely the wrong expectations for what they expect from the game. And I just think this year, of all years, if this narrative is attempted to be pushed again, I just do not see it landing as well as it did last time.

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Fizza

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@Eel But there's a perfectly good Tri Force Heroes people can hate on!

Triforce Heroes was actually my first ever Zelda game and I hated it so much I never touched the other entries until reluctantly trying out Link to the Past on the SNES app in 2020, 5 years after originally getting TFH. I ended up loving it and now also have the Switch remake of Links Awakening, another of my favourite games on Switch. I'm planning on getting Skyward Sword HD at some point and maybe BOTW (though that one's still up in the air) as well. TFH really did me dirty on the series for the longest time.

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I don’t see why that many people would get put off of a series because of a multiplayer spin-off which has no bearing on the other games.

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Fizza

@VoidofLight I was so young when I got it that that was what I assumed the rest of the series was like: annoyingly precise puzzles with little wiggle room that was awkward to control.

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Fizza wrote:

Triforce Heroes was actually my first ever Zelda game and I hated it so much I never touched the other entries until reluctantly trying out Link to the Past on the SNES app in 2020, 5 years after originally getting TFH. I ended up loving it and now also have the Switch remake of Links Awakening, another of my favourite games on Switch. I'm planning on getting Skyward Sword HD at some point and maybe BOTW (though that one's still up in the air) as well. TFH really did me dirty on the series for the longest time.

Yeah TFH was pish. It always bugged me that it was a step down from the multiplayer Zelda concept that had already built with Four Swords. But then you add worse controls, fluff rubbish about the hero of fashion or whatever and it was matchmaking from hell as it was full of trolls or people who would quit when they didn't get the level they wanted when it was already hard to find players as it wasn't worldwide matchmaking. It had it's moments when everything was working (athough it still wouldn't be a top Zelda game when it does) but more often than not it just didn't work leaving a frustrating mess. Somehow it still sold over million copies?!?!?!

If you get a chance try Minish Cap! That is one of my favourite 2D Zeldas after LA and ALTTP.

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Fizza

@jump It's the main reason I'm praying for GBA NSO to come to Switch (along with Pokemon Emerald, Golden Sun and Kirby and the Amazing Mirror).

Also, I didn't have online on my 3DS so I played the ENTIRE GAME in Single Player. Pray for me.

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Dogorilla

Tri Force Heroes is really fun if you're playing it with a friend or two though. I started playing it with a friend when it came out and loved it but sadly we didn't finish it and I lost contact with that person. Haven't managed to convince any other friends to buy it yet but I'll keep trying.

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Buizel

@Pizzamorg Were many "disappointed" with BotW though? I'd say only a small minority were, even on these forums where we naturally have a high prevalence of people passionate about the series.

I'm personally not the biggest BotW fan out there...I'm probably a moderate Zelda fan by this forum's standards, and I think BotW would struggle to fit in my top 5 Switch games (although it is a contender for my favourite Zelda game). But I wasn't disappointed by BotW in the slightest, and have to agree with the consensus that it was a genre-defining title. I've played several open-world games and, to be honest, I don't find these worlds ever give me much reason to want to explore them. BotW shook up the formula such that every moment of exploration felt rewarding IMO.

That's not to say that "hype" culture in gaming isn't a problem. It often seems people are more interested in games that aren't out yet (or even, games that haven't even been announced yet) than the games right in front of them. The industry has a role to play here but I think also individuals need to keep their expectations in check. It's one thing industry hyping up a game that ends up being mediocre...but if people are disappointed that an otherwise great game isn't the best thing they've ever played? I think that's on them.

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Solaine

It is always the same with BotW. Personally i have a bigger Issue with Open-World games and think that the trend of just making an Open-World game out of any game doesn't necessarily make it better. I am having no trouble finding awesome looking Open-World games anywhere, which i can enjoy different types of freedom with, depending on the game. But there are less Action-Adventure games in the style of classic Zelda or Okami where i have a clear line i can follow to finish the game without having a million of different things i can do because i have total freedom.
Not saying Open-World games are bad or anything, just that i wouldn't really like to see every game series being an Open-World game as its final product

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jump

Buizel wrote:

It often seems people are more interested in games that aren't out yet (or even, games that haven't even been announced yet) than the games right in front of them.

I do find it odd that people in this forum will literally be excited a game is out simply so they can be more excited about the next game coming out. You'd think with a game like Pokemon Legends, the most ambitious title in the series to date in a top tier franchise, would be enough of a talking point even if it's just to moan about it.

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Pizzamorg

Yeah, I did think that CP77 would be the straw for the industry but if anything overpromised, overhyped, disasters seem to be dropping with ever increasing frequency. I think as a customer base we've been burned enough that we should be sceptical of all marketing and even review cycles, but it is so easy to get swept up in the buzz. I am guilty of it even though I know I should know better.

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Losermagnet

jump wrote:

This is all very confusing, I regularly read in this thread BOTW was the worst Zelda game ever made but now as it's the greatest Zelda game ever made the sequel won’t live up to the hype.

If it isn't the best/worst, or superior/inferior to something else, it's just not that exciting to read. I won't be satisfied until all my games are thrown into superfluous gladitorial combat!

My honest opinion about most games I play is "yeah it was okay", with like 5% of them I could talk about for days.

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Fizza

@Losermagnet A game I could talk about for days? I'll do you one better with a game I have not been able to stop thinking about since I first played it last year:
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jump

Losermagnet wrote:

If it isn't the best/worst, or superior/inferior to something else, it's just not that exciting to read. I won't be satisfied until all my games are thrown into superfluous gladitorial combat!

My honest opinion about most games I play is "yeah it was okay", with like 5% of them I could talk about for days.

Shouldn't we be making the people arguing about the same game being the best/worst ever fight in superfluous gladiatorial combat to see who is right though? I can't really trust the views of someone unless I know they are able to physically smash their opinions into someone else's face but that's just me.

I feel like "it was okay" about the majority of games I get in a sale. I will stock pile a bunch of digital games when they are on sale and wont play them til 6 months later and then spend 2-3 hours and think it's a perfectly okay game which I like but don't love. Very rarely has it ever been that game I got cheap was actually remarkable and I will heart it forever. I'm not sure if it's because the games I do buy day one at full price is because I'm looking forward to them so I build hype on release day or it's just I'm making sure everything I am willing to buy day one is down to my exact taste whilst the cheap games are the ones I don't expect to love anyway.

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Ralizah

I mean, I guess the few people who really boosted BotW to insane levels of hype as the greatest game that was or will ever be made were a little full of it, yeah, but so are the folks who act like it wasn't an industry-shaking release and say that it did nothing new or innovative in the open world space. BotW is (aside from a few tired elements it borrows from other games, like those Ubisoft-y towers that unlock parts of the map) an almost completely re-contextualized approach to modern open world game design, with a respect for and consideration of player agency at the center of the experience. In that regard, five years on, the experience is without equal. One doesn't have to like this shift in focus, and the game mechanics that go along with it, but it's a revered release for a reason. And that's not simply because it has the word "Zelda" in the name.

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