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Snaplocket

@CreamyDream There's also the fact Heroes' level design, on top of being a lot more interesting, was designed with the game mechanics and physics in mind. Shadow's really weren't, which made the whole dumped down feeling (and the awfulness of the controls) that much more apparent.

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My first 3D platformer I played was Toy Story 2 on PC. It's also available on PlayStation, N64 and Dreamcast, as well as GBC but that version isn't a 3D platformer for obvious reasons. As far as I know, it's something not many have played. Everyone always talks about Disney games on NES and SNES but I personally like Toy Story 2 more than any other Disney game.

Toy Story 2 has solid controls, great music and the stages follow the movie quite well. Every stage has 5 missions: Collect 50 coins, find 5 things, race or timed event, mini-boss and a hidden token. You can also get new skills by finding Mr. Potato Head's missing pieces. The stages are usually a bit bigger than in Mario 64 and they're a blast to go through. And while I'm talking about Toy Story, Toy Story 3 is great as well.

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Snaplocket

Come to think of it, I'd consider Sonic Heroes underrated. I'm aware it has some BIG problems, there's a legitimately great game within it if you can look past those flaws.

This isn't a platformer, but I think NIGHTS: Journey of Dreams is also a great game. The game was a lot of fun and the different missions and masks added variety. (the unskippable cutscenes suck though)

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WarioIsTopTier

The poll is now finished! We're onto our next topic, here are the results, pretty close game.
1st - Mainline Dragon Quest Games - 41% (7 Votes)
2nd - Top Worst/Best Mario Kart Retro Tracks - 35% (6 Votes)
3rd/4th - Mega Man 1 - 10 - 12% (2 Votes)
3rd/4th - Rareware Games - 12% (2 Votes)
There you go, third time's the charm, cause Dragon Quest is our new topic!
This is the first one I'll have to sit out, I've never touched Dragon Quest. Either way I'll lurk a bit, and maybe I'll see something that'll convince me to get into the series.
The Mario Kart Option will be on the next poll, lemme know what you wanna see next!

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ThomGee

How about 2D Sonic games? That could be fun.

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@Nintendoer I was thinking of getting Sonic on here somehow. I think talking about the 2D games is a good idea, discussion on the 3D games could get messy. Also thinking of bringing Street Fighter back for another shot, it was meant to be on the last poll and slipped my mind completely. Dunno how I managed that considering it's all I've been playing recently.

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GoldenGamer88

Well, looks like I'mma have to sit this one out since I've never bothered to actually finish any of the DQ mainline games. The thing is, I like the monsters and battle system but none of the games I've tried had compelling protagonists, antagonists or story that I felt motivated to keep on training and traveling. The only mainline DQ game that I have any sort of connection with is Dragon Quest 8. My dad played it on the PS2 back in the day and I would occasionally come and watch him play. The following includes DQ8 spoilers, reveal at your own risk! And when he finally made it to Dhoulmagus, he and I were so excited that he, after roughly fifty hours of play, finally faced the final boss only to learn that he was only at the half way point of the game (he had quite a bit of trouble with Dhoulmagus so he had me look up a walkthrough, that's how we learned). It took him bit over 100 hours to beat the game.

How about Mario platformers as an option (so I could rant about NSMB, 3D Land and 3D World )

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@GoldenGamer88 100% on Mario Platformers, NSMB needs to be torn to shreds. 3D World won't be safe either.

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Krull

Here is a list of all my favourite Dragon Quest games that I have played, in ranked order of preference.

#1 Dragon Quest VIII Vast game, simple yet rewarding combat mechanics, still looks good to modern eyes, and the sound is excellent (though I played without any voice track). I spent more than a hundred hours maxing out characters' skill trees, smashing metal slimes, beating the main quest and post-game content - and enjoyed every minute. My main quibble would be that it is long - very, very long. So long.

And, er, that is the only DQ entry I've played. I own DQV and DQVI but, since DQVIII took up SO much time, I've not quite managed to gear myself up for any others yet, even though I know they're a good bit shorter. One day...

Honestly, this would have been more successful if we'd have kept Final Fantasy...

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Snaplocket

1. Dragon Quest VII - This is definitely one for the long hall. Once you get past the long start up, there's an incredible game underneath it.

2. Dragon Quest IX - Never got to try the multiplayer but the single player game is great. Dragon Quest has always been about the NPCs and I believe letting you create your own party was the right choice. Tons of extra stuff to do as well.

3. Dragon Quest V (ds) - Dragon Quest V has arguably the best MAIN story in the series. Monster collection was pretty cool too.

4. Dragon Quest VIII (3ds) - Seems like I'm the only one who doesn't consider this game top of the list. Still a great game in about every regard BUT I think the main story is pretty weak and I didn't like how there was no class system. (that's what really made IX and VII the top games imo)

5. Dragon Quest IV - The whole chapter set-up is cool even though the game becomes fairly standard fare once you reach the final one. Great game.

6. Dragon Quest VI - Personal least favorite out of all the games I've played. Weak story and the whole dream world concept wasn't used as well as I thought it could be.

I've also played Dragon Quest Heroes, but I didn't include it in the list on account of being a spin-off. If I did, it'd take Dragon Quest IV's place in the number 5 spot.

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Snaplocket

@BigYellow HEY, 3d Land and 3d World were amazing games in every regard and I won't stand for them being unfairly bashed! They're way better then pretty much every other 3d platformer release this gen (until Mario Odyssey) and most A-grade platformers released in the last two generations. Yooka Laylee only wishes it could be anywhere near as good! New Super Mario Bros for DS was a decent game too, can't really say the same for the sequels though.

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GoldenGamer88

@Snaplocket While I cannot speak for @BigYellow I myself despise these two. Now, before I say anything more, let me just establish that they are Mario games, a series known for its amazing and fantastic games. So are 3D World and 3D Land. However, to me, they represent what I like to call the "New Super Mario Bros.-ivication" of 3D Mario games. I won't go into much detail as I wanna keep this as short as I can but to me, 3D World and 3D Land are the NSMBs of 3D Mario games. Squeaky-clean, easy to pick up, easy to win. They borrowed way too much from the SMB games that they ended up being SMB 3D rather than a true successor to 3D Marios. They were still fun to play through but cannot even hold a candle to any of the four 3D Mario's toes. I'd have way more to say but this discussion should be held on another day as we're ranking the mainline Dragon Quests right now.

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WarioIsTopTier

@Krillin_ This is kinda what worried me about having DQ as an option, but we'll see if it picks up. If not, I'll just start the poll eariler than normal.

@Snaplocket They're both great games, but I'm in the same boat as @GoldenGamer88 here. I think 3D Land is great for what it is. Similar to Galaxy but with the fat trimmed off and made even more linear, made sense for a handheld game. 3D World on the other hand felt weak as hell compared to other 3D Mario games. Sorely lacking in creativity, and the quick linear style of 3D Land doesn't suit a home console game. There was a point in 3D World where I thought 'What would I miss if I just stopped here?'. No other 3D Mario has ever made me feel that. As for NSMB, first one was a cool idea and a good game, none of the others should've existed.

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Snaplocket

@BigYellow Linearity really isn't a bad thing. Done right, levels can be far more exciting then they would if they were non-linear and 3D World was a great example of that. You can't really say Galaxy wasn't linear, sure you COULD get just 60 stars and beat the game, but the actual levels only had one blatant path to take. While 3D World and Land took elements from the NSMB series, they still much greater sense of scale then any of those games. If you quit 3D World at any point you would miss out on SO MUCH. Add that to having 5 different playable characters, the terrific post game, great multiplayer, even better single player, great boss battles, stellar music, some of the best level designs ever, great use of the game pad, some the best visuals of this gen and there's really no reason not to put it on the same pedestal as Galaxy, Sunshine, and 64. It's one of the best games of all time.

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crimsontadpoles

Quick list for me since I've only played two of the DQ games, and I've already forgotten most of IX.

  • 1: DQ IX: I really liked exploring the world and interacting with the characters and doing the many side quests.
  • 2: DQ VII: Wasn't so keen on this. Some of the characters were annoying, and the story felt too long and was a drag for me. Some of the islands were interesting, but plenty of them were quickly forgotten once I was done with them.

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3. Dragon Quest IV (Android) - The core gameplay is standard JRPG fare, but it's incredibly solid, and the narrative structure of playing through different quests starring each main party member before they join up for the main event is truly unique. My only quibbles are that (like most older RPGs) a few bosses are just pallet swaps of regular enemies, or return as regular enemies in the late game, and the Yeti boss in the arena could be annoying), but those are minor quibbles in the grand scheme of things, and all things considered, it has the best final boss of the 3 DQ games I've played (loved how it dynamically transformed during the battle, rather than the battle being interrupted by a custcene during each transformation).

2. Dragon Quest V (Android) - This felt like it took everything from IV, and made it bigger & better (bigger world, longer story, ect.), and it too had an awesome narrative structure as you started out travelling the world as a kid with your father, and by endgame you're an adult with your own family. Also loved all the extras you could do, whether it's finding unique items to display in your museum, or playing one of the surprisingly addictive "Treasures & Trapdoors" boards.

1. Dragon Quest VIII (3DS) - The narrative structure here may be the most standard in the series (from what I've played), but it more than makes up for it in every other area. It has a truly great cast, a HUGE adventure, and is naturally a step above every other game in terms of graphics, all while keeping the it's core gameplay intact. It took me about 100 hours to complete the main quest, and I added about 20 hours of post game stuff on top of that (what's amazing is that I still have a few things left to do). I just really wanted to get the alternate Jessica marriage ending, which I got. I know I haven't given as many detailed reasons as to why I like this one in comparison to the others (especially since it's at number one), but it took me only about a month to rack up all that play time, and that sort of immersion has to count for something.

Also, I just love the series' vibe, which is a boon to every game in the series. It's humor, Toriyama's designs, and everything just come together to make very enjoyable worlds. Really, it's quickly shot up to become my favorite JRPG series, and one of my favorite gaming series overall.

Hope to pick up VII before the end of the year, and that they localize the 3DS version of XI sometime next year.

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Tyranexx

I'm gonna have to sit this one out as well, unfortunately. I recently bought Dragon Quest V, but haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I've heard good things about the series, and I'm dying to try VIII especially, but the length is a bit off-putting right now.

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For me: DQ VIII, DQ VI, DQ V, DQ IX, DQ VII, DQ I, DQ III, DQ II, DQ IV (I really didn't like IV for some reason).

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@CreamyDream, like most big JRPG series, none of the Dragon Quest games are tied to each other, so you can start anywhere you want, so the 3DS games are a good a place as any (especially since VIII is widely considered the best in the series, and both 3DS entries lack random battles, which I'm sure makes them even more inviting).

I think IV, V, & VI are the only ones remotely related to each other, but like the Zelda games, they're generations apart, so the connections don't go much further than some common locations that exist in all three, or an Easter Egg or two. You can play these 3 on 3DS too (as well as IX), since they're on DS.

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