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bimmy-lee

I could really go for a slice of lime meringue or key lemon pie right about now.

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NEStalgia

@Tyranexx I think I exist on processed foods alone. Trouble is I don't really have a functioning kitchen at all, so any kind of food prep is a life consuming activity. I actually love cooking but it's so impractical to do it unless I could just not work and do nothing but cook at home. Plus around here actual food has become absurdly expensive while processed food, also becoming expensive is still cheaper. Any time I try to make something the bill is like double just getting quick stuff. Still I can't stand excessively sweet things. I'm a 90% dark cocoa kind of fan.

@ThanosReXXX in the State's maritime food really depends on where you live. if you're in a coastal state it's available. If you're landlocked anything fishy is going to be kind of gamey, or "sushi grade" (a.k.a. frozen...) and either way obscenely expensive to the point commoners wouldn't be buying it, or at least not decent stuff. While not fish, lobster is the fun exception, in that it's the poster child of exotic fine cuisine for the wealthy. Except in Maine where they're actually harvested and people have so much lobster everywhere it's practically free and everyone eats it all the time. Sure there's fresh water fish, but unless your a recreational fisherman it's not really a commercial industry, so you'll pay a high premium for local fresh water fish. One thing is for sure: You don't want to cook fish when you don't have a kitchen stove that vents outside! It takes weeks to get that stink out of the house Not sure if EU has them but we have those stupid recirculating hoods that's just a charcoal and aluminum smoke filter that blows the air back into the room. Lots of people have exterior vents but plenty don't. (If you have gas it's required to vent outside, if you have electric, most builders cheap out.) So meat and fish aren't things you want to cook indoors other than baking a ham or roast or something!

@Morpheel Why....just why would you randomly flip lemon and lime to mean the opposite? Do you also call dogs cats, and cats dogs?

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NintendoByNature

@AlohaPizzaJack just had mod pizza for lunch. Needless to say, I had some roasted pineapple on it as a topping and thought of you šŸ˜…

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Well, my open kitchen lies directly next to my living room (apartment, remember?), and I don't have any kind of hood with a filter hanging above the stove. Dutch houses and apartments in general are pretty well and smartly built, so most of them, except for the REALLY old and non-refurbished ones, have good filtration systems built into the walls. There's built-in vents with regulators like these in the kitchen, in the shower:
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And in the summer, I just slide open the glass door of my balcony, so any cooking odors can escape through there. But I don't mind the smell of food, and in general, most scents only last for a day or so, before ventilation takes care of it. The smell that lasts the longest, is actually when I bake french fries or other stuff in the deep fryer, but normal food scents dissipate pretty fast, so that would never stop me from baking fish in the house.

And besides: I usually only bake salmon or tuna, and that doesn't smell any stronger than baking a piece of meat. The smoked fish I buy pre-made from the super market or specialty store, and that's always cooled, so no overbearing smell that might penetrate various rooms in my house...

I find it weird, though, that you wouldn't be able to get fresh fish everywhere in the States, regardless of having open or secluded waters in the area or not. Over here, we can buy almost any kind of fish or seafood like lobster, shrimp, clams, squid, salmon, tuna, trout, sole, oysters and what not, in most super markets, or in a specialty store. And not all of it comes from Dutch fishermen, so we also import.

I'd imagine a country as large as the States would be able to do the same, and would have just about anything available in most large and/or mid-size cities. But what do I know? Haven't been around for over 39 years...

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bimmy-lee

@ThanosReXXX - I’m in the Midwest and worked in a meat market in a nice grocery store for a while in college. All the beef and pork came in fresh, but the chicken and seafood was always packed frozen. When I lived on the coasts, there was fresh seafood galore, but here in the middle; it’s freshwater fish, or previously frozen seafood. Personally, I like fried bluegill and perch, or grilled pike just as much as seafood, so I’m okay with it.

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX I can't begin to imagine how food with smoke, steam, grease, and odors escapes through passive, un-fanned venting....doesn't the ceiling above the stove end up black/yellow/nasty? At least downdrafts do a little here where people have those, even if they suck. And doesn't everything in the house end up with a film on it? Mine does even with the recirculator.

Oh, you can buy fish anywhere in a supermarket, but it's either going to be very expensive, or fairly poor quality. Or both. Something trucked in from the coasts, which means time in a warehouse, sometimes refrigerated. Where I am it's within a number of hours from the coast, so there's dedicated fish markets around and the one supermarket has great variety, and as you can guess, it's at very premium prices. Read: restaurant prices you have to cook at home. Where you just steam a fish into your upholstery.

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ThanosReXXX

@bimmy-lee I should have elaborated: obviously, fish that is transported across the country, and ends up in supermarkets, is always transported in ice. But because it's freshly caught, processed/cut up, and immediately transported, it still counts as fresh fish. Even specialty stores over here get their stock from ice-cooled trucks.

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I don't think you'll find fish that hasn't been refrigerated in some form unless you fish it yourself and cook it right there.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia The grates on the windows are passive, but the built-in systems aren't. Those round caps I showed you, have three settings, making the opening all around it either smaller or larger, and there's a switch in the kitchen, that also has three settings: off, 1 or 2. The latter obviously being the highest setting and offering the strongest air extraction. All the pipes run through all floors of the apartment building, all have their own controls in the separate apartments, and all exit on the roof of the building.

And it works perfectly. If your house stinks for days after having cooked anything, then you might want to send your building's owner over here for some lessons about building in some actually decent and useful air filtration systems. Dykes aren't the only thing that the Dutch are good at building...

But indeed, if you use the kitchen long enough, some fat/oil residue will build up on the walls and cabinets hanging in the kitchen. But that is also why we keep kitchens clean, as we should, so the residue doesn't get a chance to build up.

If you don't, then any kitchen will get greasy over time. On a side note: I should have probably stressed that MY apartment doesn't have any hood above the stove, doesn't mean that other people over here also don't have it...

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX Oh, ok, so it is active external ventilation.

The recirculators I'm talking about, common to electric stoves here, do not exhaust anything externally at all. IT just blows the air through a charcoal filter and back into the room. Needless to say it doesn't really work that well, and usually the house has a haze of oily smoke if you cook anything that smokes up at all like meat. You get shiny hair though! Every particle of food that exited as steam or odor from the pan is blown right into the room, just passing through a basic filter first. It's not even a cheap vs. expensive thing. Some upscale luxury apartment buildings are still installing those things because external venting isn't "green." Gas is mandated to vent externally...but lots of places don't have gas.

Basically the end result is Japanese cooking si the only way to go. Except the fish isn't really suitable Everything else is microwaves and crock pots.

But do we need any windmills here? j/k

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bimmy-lee

@ThanosReXXX - The filets themselves are frozen, and then packed on ice. The working definition of fresh when it concerns food in my parts is ā€œnever been frozenā€ (or preserved in any way). The grocery store I worked for could not advertise the fish as fresh because it had been frozen. There was a sign above the meat counter that said ā€œFresh Market & Seafoodā€. The only way a restaurant can refer to fish as fresh is if it hasn’t been frozen.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia The only time I get real smoke in the house while cooking, is when I forget that the fire is set to high, and I walk away for a moment too long, or when I try barbecuing indoors...

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ThanosReXXX

@bimmy-lee I'll elaborate again: for the fish specialty stores, the fish is transported from wherever it's caught, in cooled trucks, and the fish is stored in crates that have crushed ice in them. Just to keep the fish cool. It isn't completely deep-frozen, just kept at low temperatures during transport (edit: basically, much like how you would cool a freshly bought fish at home, in your refrigerator), so it is indeed still fresh.

Specialty stores over here only buy whole fish, so they do all the cutting, smoking and what not themselves.
Only supermarkets get their fish already cut up/processed, pre-frozen, and then they're put in their cooled glass door cabinets (where they're allowed to thaw out again), like you'll find in any supermarket anywhere, if it concerns meats, packed vegetables, or sea food.

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bimmy-lee

@ThanosReXXX - Much of the fish in any type of store near me was probably caught closer to your home than mine. It’s processed below deck and put into deep freeze. It can then take weeks to reach our shores, and then it has to travel thousands of miles inland before it makes it to me, where it’s finally thawed in a meat locker or counter. That’s why it can be difficult to get fresh seafood (recently caught, never frozen), as NEStalgia mentioned, depending on where you live in the States.

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ThanosReXXX

@bimmy-lee Yeah, I can imagine, with the distances it has to travel over there. This is just a postage stamp-sized country in comparison, so anything is anywhere within a day at most, over here. From the coast to Amsterdam, is only a matter of mere hours.

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GAAH...!!!
It was too late to realize if the 93% of 5000 copies has been sold. šŸ˜ž
Oh, well....
I will hunt from Ebay.

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bimmy-lee

@ThanosReXXX - You’re lucky in that regard. If I were to visit Holland, I would eat seafood at every meal. The North and Baltic seas are home to some of the finest white fish in the world. From what I’ve seen watching international cooking shows, I would enjoy your preparation methods as well. Some day.

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