@Rambler I saw your warning about Amenra live and went straight to it lol.
Not that hanging stuff from their piercings isn't extreme but I've actually seen worse before. The Dillinger Escape Plan's frontman once took a poop on the stage and threw it at the crowd, only for someone in the crowd to pick it up and throw it back at him. Then there was another time I saw The Dwarves and the bass player who is always naked apart from his lucha mask peed on a girl in the crowd, that time annoyed me as she was about 5 feet away from me and I felt some of the splash yet I still ended up seeing them again.
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Aiii, you've seen the dwarves! Would've loved to have seen them.
Doesn't that DEP story get worse as well?
Only really mad gigs I have been to have been Converge (twice) with a terrifying pit, and The Coughs, where one of my friends ended up with bite marks on their ankle.
@Rambler The time I saw The Dillinger Escape Plan was at Reading festival when I was a young fresh faced kid and I was expecting good clean wholesome fun only to be shocked by these rock and roll antics. I'm assuming they have did it again but took it another step up which is what you heard?
Yeah, I love The Dawrves. I've seen them a few times, the last time was 3ish years ago. They had Queen's Of The Stone Age's Nick Oliveri as part of the line up then. Before the they played Nick was just walking around the venue talking to people.
I don't know The Coughs but I've seen Converge, they were fun live.
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I'm taking the view that this is a family-friendly site!!
Never saw DEP live and really regret that (and not because of the stage antics).
Coughs were noise rock with two percussionists and a saxophonist with a singer sounded a bit like Jacob from Converge, or Caro from Oathbreaker. Fright Makes Right by them is one of my all-time faves
They were on Load Records if that points you in any direction (even though there was quite a few of them and they didn't wear masks).
Converge always had great local support as well. Lots of metallic hardcore fun
I've just got tixs for what will be my fist gig in almost 2 years, in your face covid! 🤘
It's going to be to see the excellent Frank Turner with a decent support band in Skinny Lister too. I've seen both of them before and are really good live but Skinny Lister use to do this thing at each show of having a jug of rum and giving it to the crowd where they would then take a sip and pass to the person next to them, I'm not sure how that would work in today's covid world.
The lyrics of this song make me laugh, it's about being so drunk you think you're Rocky but then get beat up. lol
@Rambler
Dillinger were AMAZING live. No antics the three times I saw them, well, unless playing guitar upside-down hanging from the venue's pipework counts as 'antics', just blisteringly loud and tight performances. I'm gutted they've split, but respect tremendously the way they went about it.
I've heard Oathbreaker as they are/have been on the same label that put out the last Planes Mistaken For Stars album - Deathwish - right? Pretty sure I found them a tad heavy for my taste at the time, but I'll give them another listen when I'm not at work. I've a mate heavily into Amenra, he literally spends six months a year doing nothing at all but working stupid hours so he can take off and do the Euro festival circuit for the rest of it, he's seen them in some stunning venues.
@CactusMan Well even if you're vaccinated you can still be a carrier however it was more of a comment of the ideas of hygiene nowadays so that hundreds of people all drinking from the same jug is probably not a good idea.
Deathwish is Kurt from Converge's label, so quite a varied roster, as long as it's a bit heavy.
Oathbreaker are kinda proggy black metal, in the way Tiamat are proggy death metal (I will fight anybody who disses Wildhoney). Both have their gentle sides.
Amenra have quiet thoughtful passages as well, but are generally an absolutely punishingly heavy experience.
They do seem to play some lovely venues! I saw them in a working mans' club (with the mighty Boris supporting).
Brazilian power metal group: Hibria
Some really good songs, got the chance to see them live when they opened for Megadeth, who in turn opened for Black Sabbath during the album 13 tour
Converge played here (Wigan) a few times when I was, oh, 18-20 (so 1995 - 1997). We had a hotel - The Grand - that used to throw Hardcore all-dayers, and Converge headlined once or twice. If I'm not mistaken, Refused were at one of them as well. Happy days.
@SpringDivorce
I was in Leeds around the same time (& age), so lots of cool gigs in houses, squats, clubs, etc. Also 1 In 12 in Bradford for their hardcore weekenders.
Lots of fun
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I was thinking that most people from English speaking countries probably only really know bands from US and UK (plus Aus and NZ, of course).
This being an international forum, it might be a way of recommending bands not from the Anglosphere?
Having said all that, I'm not really thinking in a global internet way, so it's probably moot.
I was thinking that most people from English speaking countries probably only really know bands from US and UK (plus Aus and NZ, of course).
I find it weird so many non-British/American bands will sing in English despite it not being their home language. There's a good few like that I think of Beatsteaks, Ghost, Volbeat, Gojira, Sabaton, Teddybears, Refused, The 5 6 7 8s etc.
For underrated album, the first one that jumps into my head is Saturday Night Wrist by Deftones. For the most part, when I see fan rankings, it's never near the top. And even the band themselves don't really like it as it was made during a super tumultuous time when they almost broke up. When I saw them live in Korea, they played exactly 0 songs from it as I recall, haha. But for me, it's one of my favorites. It's strongly in the top 3, and possibly top 2, of their discography. I get why people dislike it, but I just think the songs are really good, if a little overproduced.
EDIT: And for a future question (or maybe now if people want to answer it) one that I always find interesting is: What are some of your top "guilty pleasure" bands/albums?
Hmm interesting choice. For me, despite the odd flash of brilliance it's definitely bottom of the pile, I even listen to Gore more than I do SNW.
Underrated for me is definitely Pearl Jam's 'No Code'. Seems to be mostly thought of as the beginning of their decline, whereas I think it's their last truly brilliant album. Backspacer aside.
Don't think I really have any 'guilty pleasures' as such, though I do own a Breaking Benjamin record so I guess I must have thought of them as decent at some point.
@SpringDivorce Yeah I get it. Probably how most people feel about SNW is how I feel about Gore. Gore, to me, just sounded kind of soulless. It's near the bottom for me, though even a bad Deftones album is still a decent album overall, haha. I know it's probably further blasphemy, but my least favorite of their albums is Adrenaline. Most put that one near the top. For me, it's just a little bit too raw and unrefined. You could tell where they were on the road to, but it wasn't quite there yet.
I'll get into guilty pleasures a bit later if that question gains any traction, haha
@CactusMan I remember the year that The Darkness were big, every festival had everyone singing their songs and the next year not a single person cared, which wasn't really surprising as they were a novely band rather than the comeback of cock rock hair metal.
It's still bit of a joke they managed to headline Reading festival with a 30min album plus a Xmas song when the other headliners were peak The White Stripes Elephant era and Green Day American Idiot era who had enough material to fill 2hours playing let alone 30mins.
My guilty pleasure...maybe Reel Big Fish. They are stupid and silly but they own it.
Not really a guilty pleasure but sort of related to the topic in the sense of liking a band you wouldn't expect to is how I 'm a fan of The The Interrupters who are more on the lighter side of things as as they are a ska punk band and I've got a hoodie of theirs. I've got a few band hoodies like Motorhead, Skindred etc and I'm in a crowd at a gig and no one cares but when I wear my The Interrupters one someone always comes up to me to say they are a fan of the band, it's happened to me when I've worn it to see Ghost, Royal Blood, Slaves, Rammstein, Frank Carter and a few more too which I wouldn't imagine there be that much crossover with.
Give them a listen, I reckon they must be Ghost and Rammstein fans' guilty pleasure.
Wouldnt say Gore is soulless, but it's hampered by a terrible production job, it sounds like one big muddy mess. Adrenaline I absolutely adore, in fairness I don't listen to it often these days, but when I'm in a bit of a crappy mood I play it LOUD. I love the rawness, you can tell it's a band finding its feet, but it still has more texture than a lot of rap-rock / nu-metal stuff of its time. And I agree, the 'worst' Deftones record is still a goal that most bands would aspire to in fairness.
@SpringDivorce You're right, I worded that poorly. I think you nailed it with the production. It really sucked out the extra "oomph" that feels like it should be there.
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