@TheJGG just googled some of them (and then got bored to finish looking at them all) turns out LOTR is historically banned from the satanic panic era of America and the rest seemed banned at various individual schools rather than a state wide thing.
There are a few newer books like 13 Reasons Why and The Hate You Give on that list which have been banned.
Ooh, I just found this a list of the most 100 challenged/banned books in American im the 10s. I was gonna make it my aim to read them all but then I saw 50 Shades Of Grey is on it so maybe not. Also I'm a bit lame as my three favourite writers Haruki Murakami, Neil Gaiman and Chuck Palahniuk didn't make to any banned lists!
I've not checked the two new links, but let's just have a quick pause for the very idea of people wanting to ban books.
It's absurd, depressing, and, for me, quite scary.
they banned the Anne Frank book, what next the "Wizard of OZ".
I've not checked the two new links, but let's just have a quick pause for the very idea of people wanting to ban books.
It's absurd, depressing, and, for me, quite scary.
Speak for yourself, I've just started a hashtag to get Fight Club, Good Omens and Norwegian Wood banned so all of my favourite writers are edgy and cool!
But yeah, it's a depressing thought. Even if it's a silly concern like Harry Potter will turn my kid into a witch (is that in itself a confirmation of people think witchcraft is real?) shows little faith that type of exploration of ideas and breaking down information will lead to direct indoctrination, these are key skills for people as well as I've worked with so many donkeys who are only able to do rather than problem solve which largely stems from their inability to break down which reading a thought provoking books could have helped avoid.
Those two list, @Jump, are really interesting! I assumed that they would be current challenges and bans, but they're great with the historical context.
Just out of interest, only one book has been banned in the UK in the last 50 or so years (outside of political / state secrets issues).
It didn't help that at the Lady Chatterley obscenity trial, the prosecution asked, "would you let your wife or servant read this?". Kinda shows the split between modern society and the establishment.
According to Wikipedia, no books have really been banned in the US for many years either, so I guess the first amendment still works.
(LotR is quite racist, but only in its wider context, I think)
It appears US can't ban books but they can refuse to hold some in their schools/libraries, like you can't request the book to be stocked so you can read like in an UK library.
@Rambler Murakami get accused of misogyny a fair bit but it's mostly down to he's very bad at writing female characters, which is odd as I've seen him write about spaghetti for three pages likes it's poetry so you'd think a few women wouldn't be too hard to write. Plus there's been a few subplots of underage sex in some of his books.
Yeah Gaiman is LGBTQ friendly, I seem to remember non-binary and trans were in his books long before the idea was mainstream but I was thinking more of his satire of religion. He portrayed Lucifer as sympathetic in The Sandman (a bit like in Wreck It Ralph where you're forced into the position of being the bad guy even if you don't want to be), American Gods (an amazing book btw) and Good Omens are both very heavy on religion.
Fight Club was my introduction into the idea of nihilism which has pretty much stuck with me ever since so maybe I am wrong and books should be banned for their dangerous ideas. lol
@Eel In fairness some people don't want things like "gay" on their search history or on their phone in fear exposure as well as those smaller communities where libraries are so important are often the ones with the worst internet connections. There's a comedian I like and he talked about growing up dirt poor so as a teen he would go to the library to use their internet as that was the only he could access the internet and just spend the entire day researching various topics.
The sad thing is the smaller communities that will burn/ban the gay literature are probably the ones that need it the most. As confusing as the idea of being non-binary, trans or just plain gay is to the pitch fork wielding book burning townsfolk it's just as confusing (probably more so) to the young adults going through those realizations and without that kind of understanding it can lead to self-loathing, depression or suicide especially if they fear talking about it to anyone about it.
@Rambler Actually, Fahrenheit 451 HAS been challenged, banned, burned, and censored (via Wikipedia, with relevant sources in the footnotes of the book's article).
In Apartheid South Africa the book was burned along with thousands of banned publications between the 1950s and 1970s.[78]
In 1987, Fahrenheit 451 was given "third tier" status by the Bay County School Board in Panama City, Florida, under then-superintendent Leonard Hall's new three-tier classification system. Third tier was meant for books to be removed from the classroom for "a lot of vulgarity." After a resident class-action lawsuit, a media stir, and student protests, the school board abandoned their tier-based censorship system and approved all the currently used books.[79]
In 1992, Venado Middle School in Irvine, California, gave copies of Fahrenheit 451 to students with all "obscene" words blacked out.[80] Parents contacted the local media and succeeded in reinstalling the uncensored copies.[80]
In 2006, parents of a 10th-grade high school student in Montgomery County, Texas, demanded the book be banned from their daughter's English class reading list.[81] Their daughter was assigned the book during Banned Books Week, but stopped reading several pages in due to what she considered the offensive language and description of the burning of the Bible. In addition, the parents protested the violence, portrayal of Christians, and depictions of firemen in the novel.[81]
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@TheJGG Do you want folk to guess or are you actually worried about typing it?
I'd say The Satanic Verses? I've listened to a few podcasts about it and I was tempted to read and ask a few Muslim friends about the various blasphemies but all the Muslims I know drink, eat pork, have tattoos etc so I don't think they would even know.
@Rambler It probably works better with how I normally use it when I apologize for being condescending only to then mansplain the word. Mansplaining is when I have to explain things to people who know very little.
@jump It is a joke but at the same time there is an element of truth to what I mean. I don't think that if I mention The Satanic Verses I'd get abducted but you never know... but yeah, that's it!
@Rambler NOW I worry about my safety! Wouldn't want to choke to death on my own sick now...
The problem with The Satanic Verses is that it's false advertising. With a name like that you'd think it would be the story of a metal band writing songs about the devil and rockin out, I picture it being like Metalocalypse in novel format. Too bad Salman Rushdie was not into Slayer!
Currently, finished reading the ebook of the first Dune book. It's really amazing. 😀
having seen the movie, it was a bit sad that they couldn't do a 1-1 feel matching the books and all the rich context of the culture, but the movie was fine too overall, I'm waiting for the 2nd dune movie.
also, I'm wondering if there are any illustrated physical dune books worth purchasing. 🤔
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