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LinkSword

I'm still holding out hope for Xeno 2 not to be delayed. I'm not even asking for new, surprising announcements, so I should at least get that much out of E3... Right?

Also, everyone honestly expecting Metroid news is going to have an awful E3 once again. Just saying.

LinkSword

Nin10dad

E3 will be epic! The games will do the talking! Even with what we know (Mario, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Rabbids?) there's enough to get excited about for the year ahead. And I'm sure there will be some kind of tease for a big IP renewal. It's also clear that whatever Retro are working on was greenlit to skip the Wii U so I wouldn't be surprised if that's got a solid date.
And then there are games like Sonic Mania, FIFA 18. Yooka Laylee! Now if be dreaming if I said VC announcements, but hey, we've all got to dream right?!

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Timppis

@LinkSword

Couldn't agree more about the Metroid.

@G0dlike

Sonic Mania is a multiplatform release that is going to sell massively on other devices.

FIFA 18 is a watered down version of the current game without story mode, without Ultimate Team and with last gen engine. I wouldn't put it past EA not to even optimise it properly as they did with WiiU version. This is all a damn shame because there are a lot of people like me who would love to play our EA sports games with Nintendo.

Yooka is a horrible game. It plays with the retro angle but it really just is not a good game. Unfortunately so.

Getting to know what Retro was working on would be great. There is no reason to assume that we would get that info.

Timppis

MrGawain

So we know:
-The Direct is for the Switch, perhaps exclusively.
-Pokemon Stars won't be happening. The Pokemon Direct was done so we didn't get our hopes up.
-Pokken has had it's own Direct, so unlikely to show up in the Direct itself.
-Arms has had it's own Direct, along with a Splatoon, also unlikely to be shown in the Direct.
-With Pokken and Arms, along with SF2 and the Neo Geo fighters out, were unlikely to get Smash for a while.
-NBA, FIFA, Steep, Rayman, Crackdown and Elder Scrolls aren't going to be shown in depth as people already know what they are.

So what are we left with? Mario, Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, possibly the Rabbids game if it's not shown off at the Ubisoft event. We'll have a 2 minute indie roll, a 2 minute 3rd party roll. Even if it's only a 30 minute event, You've got to think there's still 10-15 minutes of space for new games, which can be announced in 30 seconds to 2 minutes and then explored further in the Treehouse.

Personally I'm quite optimistic Nintendo have a giant killer Direct planned.

Isn't it obvious that Falco Lombardi is actually a parrot?

Nin10dad

You're correct on most of your points, however you just seem incredibly negative, a 'glass half empty' kinda guy. I honestly can't wait for E3. And if it is as bad as you're saying it's gonna be, fair play to you. @Timppis

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LinkSword

MrGawain wrote:

So we know:
-The Direct is for the Switch, perhaps exclusively.
-Pokemon Stars won't be happening. The Pokemon Direct was done so we didn't get our hopes up.
-Pokken has had it's own Direct, so unlikely to show up in the Direct itself.
-Arms has had it's own Direct, along with a Splatoon, also unlikely to be shown in the Direct.
-With Pokken and Arms, along with SF2 and the Neo Geo fighters out, were unlikely to get Smash for a while.
-NBA, FIFA, Steep, Rayman, Crackdown and Elder Scrolls aren't going to be shown in depth as people already know what they are.

So what are we left with? Mario, Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, possibly the Rabbids game if it's not shown off at the Ubisoft event. We'll have a 2 minute indie roll, a 2 minute 3rd party roll. Even if it's only a 30 minute event, You've got to think there's still 10-15 minutes of space for new games, which can be announced in 30 seconds to 2 minutes and then explored further in the Treehouse.

Personally I'm quite optimistic Nintendo have a giant killer Direct planned.

You are taking many things for granted, in my opinion. I'd be surprised if at least a chunk of the presentation wasn't even more footage of Splatoon 2, Pokken and ARMS. Shown before at length or not, they won't waste the chance to promote them once again in arguably the Nintendo presentation with the biggest audience they can get.

LinkSword

MarcelRguez

@MrGawain Crackdown? That's a Microsoft game. What were you thinking of?

@LinkSword Those three have their own tournaments during the event, and ARMS comes out the day after. Anything more than being part of a reel with the likes of Rayman or Dragon Ball is overkill, in my opinion.

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Timppis

@G0dlike

Absolutely not glass half empty kinda guy. Just assessing things that have happened in the past, how companies work in certain situations and how gaming industry in general works.

If Nintendo on some happenstance works their magic and the spotlight is amazing I will be the first one to do cartwheels and shout hip-horraahs around the streets (literally I will go to my balcony and yell out to the street that Nintendo is awesome).

And I will do a full retract on any statements and claims I have done here with a heartfelt apology to both Nintendo and to this community.

But I am not pessimist. Pessimists are too often cynics and cynics are just waste of biological resources.

@MrGawain

Pokken, Splatoon 2 and ARMS are definitely going to be in the Direct. There is no reason to think that they wouldn't be.

2 minute Indie reel is a very short, but it might well be.

There is no way in heck that we would get 10-15 minutes of new games when they have clearly stated that they will focus on 2017 releases.

Timppis

Grumblevolcano

@MrGawain I doubt the Mario Rabbids game will be at the Ubisoft conference, Nintendo will want it to be in the spotlight event. Also even that game has already leaked, Ubisoft will probably want to give the impression at their event that Nintendo systems are still the "only getting Just Dance" consoles.

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LinkSword

MarcelRguez wrote:

@LinkSword Those three have their own tournaments during the event, and ARMS comes out the day after. Anything more than being part of a reel with the likes of Rayman or Dragon Ball is overkill, in my opinion.

I agree that it is overkill. That won't stop them from doing it, though.

LinkSword

MrGawain

@MarcelRguez

Oops, I mean Payday. One shooty game is the same as another shoot you game to me!

@Timppis

Why announce Pokken a week before then? Plus it's an old game that we've played before. Plus Arms and Splatoon already have had lots of press, plus the invitational tourneys. I can't see more than a mention for them.

Isn't it obvious that Falco Lombardi is actually a parrot?

MarcelRguez

@LinkSword In the case of ARMS, at least, showing up means they have to fill time with anything. Bad sign. Same thing for Pokkén, it makes no sense to focus on that after yesterday's trailer.

Splatoon I could see, since it's a month away and needs a release date, if I'm not mistaken.

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Timppis

@MrGawain

Why announce Pokken week before? Because they have the tournament and because if it had been announced in the Spotlight video people would have been disappointed. Now they are disappointed / indecisive / positive about it as it is just a new game and not part of one of the biggest showcases in the industry.

Now they can justify couple of minutes of the new fighters etc. in the spotlight video because it's a game coming out this year and that is what they have said to focus on.

That's why.

Timppis

MarcelRguez

@Timppis If previous E3s are anything to go by, Nintendo doesn't plan their events around people's expectations. It was revealed outside of the main event because TPC wants all eyes on their products before the stream of E3 reveals begins. That's all there is to it, really.

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Grumblevolcano

@MarcelRguez Honestly I think it was revealed outside the main event because we would've got the announcements before E3 anyway due to Corocoro leaks and so an official announcement a week before E3 is better than leaks a few days before E3.

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Marshi

We may very well get a disapointing E3 but lets not make that influence our perception of the Switch as a whole. If all they show at E3 is extended gameplay of Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, Arms, Zelda DLC and Xenoblade 2 with release dates shown, thats means we are still getting some very exciting games coming in 2017!
However there has never been an E3 by Nintendo without at least one surprise so it would be silly to think we wont get one. My bets on Retros game showing up, whatever that may be.

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Timppis

@MarcelRguez

Thinking that Nintendo doesn't play by anyones expectations is just wrong.

Of course they think about expectations and the market and the consumers etc. They have their own way of doing things but to think that they plan without thinking about the consequences, marketing etc. is just silly.

@Marshi

Exactly. It will be horrible E3 but that doesn't mean Switch is doomed. It just means that Nintendo has to work even harder in the future.

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Marshi

@Timppis How woukd showing Mario Odyssey, Arms, Splatoon 2, Zelda dlc and Xenoblade 2 with release dates, with a likely surprise in the form of Retro studios new game be horrible? I dont understand your logic dude. Thats some glass half empty shizz right there!

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LinkSword

Marshi wrote:

We may very well get a disapointing E3 but lets not make that influence our perception of the Switch as a whole. If all they show at E3 is extended gameplay of Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, Arms, Zelda DLC and Xenoblade 2 with release dates shown, thats means we are still getting some very exciting games coming in 2017!

I agree. Regardless of what I expect from this E3, as far as I'm concerned the lineup for 2017 and even the upcoming year is really promising already. Any surprises would be sugar on top, although then again I don't expect any that'd blow me away.

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