Topic: So, You Can Now Ignore Users

@Eel I guess it's a feature that wasn't thought through then huh.

@Ryu_Niiyama Why for one if I didn't do anything wrong I would like to know what I did wrong and maybe work it out. I don't like the fact that anyone can block no one for no reason. I can understand being block if you are harassing someone or are just a jerk all around, that makes sense of course you should be blocked but to block someone for the sake of blocking, just doesn't seem right to me.

There's always a reason

As someone who has now amassed quite a list of people who have put them on their ignore list (lol >_<), I do think the implementation here is kinda not good?

Like, if you don't go and put the person on your ignore list yourself manually after you get ignored, you'll still get notifications of someone posting in a thread and that thread will stay as outstanding with new posts, until someone who hasn't ignored you posts, so you can refresh the thread.

Likewise, if someone is like tagged in a conversation, you're aware a conversation is happening around you that you can't see which feels kinda weird and kinda bad?

I guess all of this is kind of unavoidable, but maybe you should like autohide the person from the person you are ignoring too? Although does that become a block, I dunno? But it's pointless notifying me of new posts that I won't ever be able tosee. I also dunno if it's possible to even do, but if someone has you on their ignore list, I also think any time that person is tagged, the ignored person should just not be able to see that post either for a smoother experience.

I just think when you say mute someone on Twitter, the platform is so large, it all happens fairly seamlessly but here because the platform is quite small, so when you start getting a couple of people putting you on their ignore list it makes the experience of using the forum just kinda weird?

And I get it, be a better person or whatever so people don't ignore you but I can't help if people find me abrasive, that is just who I am and I honestly don't care if I am on your ignore list, I just think the ignored user could have a better experience. Which might be weird to say? I dunno.

Just my feedback.

So another bit of feedback on the implementation of the ignore feature - if a person makes a general thread and then puts you on the ignore list, the entire thread vanishes from the forum index you can see. You can still post in the thread and see the thread, but you'll have to follow an existing link you have for the thread manually.

I don't know what the solution is for this? But this kinda sucks.

@Pizzamorg yeah I think that is fair feedback, hiding entire threads isn't desirable therefore I've removed that check and therefore you will now be able to see threads created by someone you ignore (or they block you) as that's not really the original intention of the feature. Will see how that goes.

@Tasuki "I didn't do anything wrong" is your opinion (which if that was true you wouldn't be on an ignore list)...or someone simply wants nothing to do with you (maybe they find you argumentative, or unhinged), in the end why someone blocks someone on a social site else doesn't matter unless they are denying your basic human rights (they aren't). Human interaction doesn't boil down to "I didn't violate a law or TOS so you have to engage with me". Maybe you expressed a political view or a crappost or something that you revealed about yourself or something at some point (My ignore list triples anytime an article about same sex marriage in games pops up and it would be stupid and unsafe for me to give those people a reason as to "why" I want to stay far, far away from them). Maybe you make someone uncomfortable but they don't like confrontation.

No one owes you an explanation for not wanting to talk to you. Public forums can be dangerous; doxxing, harassment, death threats, personal attacks...all of these things are super easy when one can hide behind a user name and mods can only do so much. Also really good trolls are good at harassing without breaking the rules; no one should have to put up with that. Again, in real life if someone avoids you, it is terrible manners to go after them trying to make them engage with you and can very easily creep into harassment .Plus this is a public space, if we had DMs perhaps even though that could creep into harassment...I, for one would not want anyone on my ignore list to be able to DM me and I know some would take the stance you have and demand an answer, I would view that as harassment. However getting back to my point, if you run around chasing someone trying to make them engage, you usually have to derail a thread to do so...so now you interrupt a convo to potentially start a fight. A fight that the other party already left before it could get started. So if you were at a party and someone ignored you and you cut the music and chased that person down. Eyes are now on the both of you, and the person that was quietly trying to be left alone is now being drug centerstage because you can't move on and let things go. Again why does it matter? If a person put you on their list, you likely had nothing to converse about anyway. Move on, leave people in peace. If they wanted to reconcile then they wouldn't have blocked you and would have simply confronted you. And the block is better for the person using their ignore list as it keeps ignored users from trying to engage and then potentially starting more drama because they feel slighted. I literally just escaped that nonsense myself and I felt harassed enough that I almost left the site and deleted my account. A person's curiosity does not supersede another person's peace and sense of safety and well being. Let people that are not bothering you...not bother you. Note I am saying you, generically.

@Ryu_Niiyama I agree with everything you are saying, but also I understand from Tasuki's point of view that he'd want to understand why someone has decided to ignore/block them... most people would want to understand 'why'. That said, I also agree that the user doesn't /have/ to disclose the why if they don't feel comfortable and that seems as fair as we can make it. I've had plenty of people message privately that they like the ignore feature and it makes things easier for them. On the other hand there have been people (like in this thread) from people that dislike it, but the ratio isn't anywhere near the same. I wouldn't call it a perfect system, far from it, but we're trying to accommodate as many as possible at the end of the day.

@antdickens I merely responded because it was in my notifications. Tasuki can feel however he wants; it won't stop anyone from blocking him or anyone else...or just normally ignoring him or anyone else by not engaging, which a lot of people do anyway. I just felt it would be rude not to respond. However I will always advocate for personal safety and well-being over someone's curiosity/demands.

I for one love the ignore and block feature. Especially the block feature as I'd apparently ticked someone off for YEARS and had no idea until I cleared cache and cookies and was too lazy to log in one day. Block would have avoided all of that as (hopefully) my posts would not have garnered unwanted attention. This is the internet and personalities and ideologies are not guaranteed to mix, and it keeps me from having to lose my nice little nintendo hangout because some users are um...persistent. Plus I think it keeps people from trying to escalate things to bans (except for on the obvious TOS violators of course) which happens a lot on free for all forums and I think it is better than downvotes that have mob rule control (for good for for ill) behind them.

Either way I will leave it alone and keep using the ignore and block features. Thanks again Ant!

@Ryu_Niiyama not a problem, I'm glad you are enjoying the feature. I was just basically trying to say that I can see pros/cons from both sides and therefore I don't believe there is a 'perfect' solution that'll meet everyone's needs, just the way it goes on this one. All the best!

Hm, well this is interesting. Ryu_Niiyama blocked me (apparently shrugs, I got confused at conversation and clicked on their name) but I can still see all their article comments by going to their user profile and looking through their ccomments, though they're missing in the articles themselves. That's probably unintended, right? I shouldn't be able to see those at all.

Also, I want to add my opinion about blocking users.
User like Ryu Niiyama can happily block everyone here as they like, pretend we do not exist here and we are not worthy for them to have conversation, even we are generally nice peoples.
At the same time, it is very rude for me to see somebody doesn't even want to be nice with other peoples here even we never be mean with that people.
Blocking user was good to prevent nasty users keep insulting other peoples but it was also hurting someone else who didn't be mean with other users, just because they have different opinions or different interest.

@Anti-Matter What the heck are you talking about? I don't care that she blocked me, I was reporting that the block has a bug where I can still see some of her messages.

Edit: As an aside, being able to tell who has ignored me would be great so I can stop replying to their messages.

@link3710 thanks, that is correct — and that is now fixed

@Ryu_Niiyama I get what you are saying but in the end this is a public forum which means, any conversation is open to the public, by blocking a person from certain conversations isn't public anymore, only the staff should have the right to do so. It would be like if I were to go onto a McDonalds or any public building and a random customer who I did nothing too walks up to me and says oh I just don't like you you have to leave and then I am not allowed I into that restaurant. It's public.

I get it some people want a private conversation if that's the case there's places to do that, Facebook, Instagram heck even emails. But in a public forum that is just not cool.

As for the harassment that's what mod and the staff are for and if they are not stopping it then perhaps add some more mods. It would be like the police saying sorry we can't catch every criminal so here have a gun and do it yourself.

And don't worry. I understood what you meant by you.

@Tasuki if that’s what we were here for, then every person that has been blocked by someone else would instead be completely banned from the site. I don’t think that’s a better solution.

Think of it more like the person got a restraining order, instead of a gun.

While blocking/ignoring empowerment is a good thing, I do agree to an extent that the implementation here in the context of this being a forum, not a social media platform, is problematic. I already outlined my thoughts on the other page, so won't labour the point any further and I am grateful at least one change has been made. However, I do hope at some point the way in which ignoring on this forum works is looked at and tweaked, as I'm not sure it's current form is fit for purpose. Personally.

I noticed that too, good that it's fixed now. I was kind of glad to be able to see her comments at that point though because I was wondering why she blocked me, and one of her most recent comments at the time was explaining that she often blocks people when they say something controversial, whether she agrees with it or not, so she doesn't get caught up in an argument. I feel like she's going to block the entire forum at that rate but never mind, it's her choice.

@Dogorilla Lol, I'm pretty sure I got blocked when I said that I didn't believe the 3D All-Stars leak (at least the timing lined up) so... I wouldn't worry about it.

I would appreciate if we avoided transforming this into the "blocked users support group" thread.

And no, please don't create one.

@Pizzamorg Wait what changes were made?