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Topic: SNES VC for older 3ds

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Eel

I know, and I do have the same game on two consoles (three if we count the nes version).

I'd rather play on the 3DS though

It was a free bonus game in Japan though, not sure if it was ever released separately there.

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It should be simpler than most of you are letting on. If a modern game is using a similar style to older games then the same techniques should translate to the older games too! Shovel Knight is at its base a 16 bit inspired game so it makes sense that Link to the past could be generated using the same resources.

Well it's not that simple so really you just need to accept that. The SNES had a fairly limited set of instructions that a developer could call. Functions which were added to with enhancement chips put in some cartridges. It was a super specialised computer, all consoles were up until around the late 90s/early 2000s. It's the reason why all SNES games have a similar look and sound.

It's kinda like how you can get chips that are specifically designed to hardware accelerate video decoding. Like a UHD Blu-Ray player will have a H.265 decoder chip. Is that UHD BluRay player more powerful than a Wii U? Well no. It's probably less capable than the Vita when push comes to shove. But it can decode H.265 at 4K without breaking a sweat which is something that the Switch's CPU would struggle with.

The SNES was built to run SNES games, it does that effortlessly. It has chips specifically designed to run SNES games. It does it while having the power of a toaster. But for machines without those chips to run SNES games? They have to go the long way around. Something which is made even more tricky by the fact that SNES games had all sorts of enhancement chips which add even more specialised functions.

It's also why you bringing up Shovel Knight isn't really much of a counter point. Shovel Knight was built for the 3DS. When it runs on the 3DS it's running on a machine specifically designed to run 3DS games. If you put that code on a high end gaming PC? It wouldn't run. The PC version of Shovel Knight is running code built to run on PC. It's not rocket science.

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@skywake
I'd be willing to accept that "some" games would be harder to emulate on the older models but to say that "none" could run accurately on it I have trouble with. If Game A is playable but B is not it's not really that big of a deal kinda like how Xenoblade can only run on the new 3ds. Even emu like zsnes can't run all games accurately even with the recommended or better processor but the emu program uses speed hacks or the like to run the more popular 50 or so titles and I'd be willing to bet the VC service is no different.

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KingMike

@Meowpheel Final Fantasy 3D was released separately. I do have a JP N3DS with the game downloaded. Was sold for around $10 as I recall. (though the original Famicom version was released on JP VC as well for the normal price)
Supposedly it restores the Gallery from the PS1 version (though now locked until beating the game).

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Bass_X0

I don't see a point in SNES and NES games on 3DS for the simple fact that they're more expensive on 3DS than they are on Wii U in the same country. At least in Europe anyway.

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Eel

I sure am glad nintendo hasn't decided to go and uhh... Update the prices of their older digital games here in Mexico. To match current exchange rates.

Their new retail games are a mess, though. But at least what little virtual console appears, seems to remain consistent with their original pricing scheme.

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Bass_X0

In the UK, it's £3.49 for Super Mario Bros. 3 on Wii U but £4.49 for Donkey Kong: Original Edition on 3DS. There are new games on the eshops with a starting cost of £0.89... tiny basic games, but still, we have tiny basic NES games.

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GameOtaku

And yes accuracy is all subjective. You show someone the new 3ds SNES VC and they would say it's inaccurate, you show another and it's fine. I'm not going to complain about slowdown I don't know is supposed to exist or not afterall the games are 25 years old slowdown was kinda a thing back then.

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Bass_X0

Even if you don't know it exists, I'm sure you would prefer to play as games at the intended speed than games that do have slow down.

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Octane

We were so close to letting this thread die...

Maybe next time!

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Bass_X0

@Octane Meowpheel closed a thread discussing SNES games on New 3DS Virtual Console saying that there was another thread discussing SNES games on New 3DS Virtual Console to discuss the games on, which would be this one.

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But if you didn't know it existed would it really affect you that much? I don't think the slowdown would be that noticeable, or since they have already segmented the VC community as is now since there are 20 nes titles (non zapper related) that wiiu has that 3ds has never gotten so one or 2 snes games that don't come to the original models because of some stupid hardware limitations that the new can overcome, most games should play to their standards.

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KevTastic84

If GBA games can run on it, i think they could make SNES games work. But they also needed an incentive for people to upgrade to the NEW 3DS models. The lack of unique titles just for the NEW models was never much of an incentive.

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GameOtaku

Why would you want to close the thread. No new VC titles in over 2 years on 3ds except for Pokemon and new 3ds has got next to nothing as far as games exclusive to it since it came out.

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Octane

Why did someone have to dig this up? It was almost gone...

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