Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

@DefHalan: It's rather simple. I'll try to explain it.

Individual Values are the natural potential each of your pokemon's stats have. They go from 0 to 32, and they are permanent.

When pokemon breed, they may pass down their IVs to their child, using the destiny knot item helps with this. Which IVs are inherited is totally random.

In this game you can use bottle caps to artificially raise your pokemon's IVs, but their natural IVs are still the ones passed down when breeding.

Effort Values are an additional stat modifier, the EVs of a single stat can go from 0 to 252, but each individual pokemon can only have a total of 512 EVs in total.

EVs can be modified: there's some berries than lower their value, and items that raise them.

The most common way to raise them is by battling. Each pokemon has a set amount of EVs they give when defeated, and there's some items you can give to your pokemon to increase those values.

As you can imagine, a stat with an IV of 31 and 252 EV points invested on it will be the very best it can be. If the Pokemon's nature also benefits that stat, then it is even better.

@DefHalan Yea guides make it overcomplicated.

Pretty much IVs determine your stat at level 100

For example, at level 100, if you have a pokemon with a stat of 200 at 0 ivs, it will be 231 with 31 ivs. Maximizing these IVs makes a huge difference (at level 50 its half what it would be at 100, so 15 instead of 31)

EVs increase your stat by 1 every 4 EVs you get, and you can have a maximum of 252 EVs per stat (and you can total 512 on your pokemon) These are what you "train" for, defeating certain pokemon give you EVs, and you can double, triple, or quadruple the gain with having your pokemon be infected with pokerus (doubles EV gain) and holding a power item for that respective stat (gives additional EVs, which doubles off pokerus)

IVs you have to breed for since they're what make each pokemon more unique. Ever wonder why you have two of the same pokemon but one dies faster or deals more damage? Those are the IV differences.

Pretty much, out of the two parents in the daycare, you're guaranteed 3 of the IVs they have, with destiny knot being held on one of them, it increases to 5, so at this point you're just grinding for more IVs, replacing the ones in the daycare for better ones you've hatched, and then finally you get one with the right IVs and you're done.

The other factor for competitive pokemon is natures, pretty much every nature increases a stat by 10% and lowers a stat by 10%. Having a pokemon with the nature you want hold an everstone guarantees it's children will have the nature. You can research which natures work best for your pokemon.

For example, on popplio you'd want a modest nature (+spa - atk) as atk is its most useless stat and spa is increase by 10% dealing more damage.

@Araquanid How can you tell if a Pokemon's IVs are good? Is the only way to level them up and use one of those IV calculators or is there an easier way to check them now?

@DefHalan In gen 6 there is a man who tells you if they're 31. (In the pokemon centers of the post game city/island of x/y/or/as next to your pc.)

In pokemon sun/moon there is an easier method you unlock later on.

If you go into your PC box and press "judge", it show your pokemon's 6 stats at the top of your screen, and says text like "fantastic, very good, decent etc". If it says "best" under them its 31 ivs.

Calculators are not necessary nowadays.

We call these characters in-game that help us "IV Judges" if you need to research them.

@Araquanid awesome, I might finally get into IVs... after I finish my live Pokedex. With Gen 7 just coming out my Live Pokedex quest has been extended lol

@Araquanid Is it true that you need to hatch 20 eggs in order to unlock the IV judge?

@DefHalan Same here.

@LegendOfPokemon Correct.

I did a little research and somebody did infact find a way to get 4 IV dittos!

http://pastebin.com/28mMAJhh

To summarize, after about 40 SoS kills pokemon have a very high chance of having 4 IVs, so if you kill dittos repeatedly, you can get 4 IVs.

I'm going to start hunting for these for myself, but the team I will be using is a wishiwashi who doesn't know anything but water moves, and a random storm drain gastrodon who can kill the allies. I'll watch my PP to keep track of the chain.

And of course a false swipe lurantis who i'll send in on the first ditto to get things rolling.

This is gunna suck if i chain for 40 and then catch the 41st one...

Also synchronize has a bug, as long as your synchronizer is the one on the field, it will always use the nature of the first pokemon in your party. So if you have a live/fainted modest primarina in your first slot, and a jolly synchronizer in the back, all the wild pokemon will have an increased chance of being modest rather than jolly.

Are critical captures still a thing in Sun/Moon?

Annnndd nvm it struggled cause ditto 5 PP per move thing... forgot about that..

@IceClimbers yea, I got two already.

Oh i forgot to mention, you have to have your pokemon be level 100 inorder to use bottle caps to fake their IVs.

Not as easy as it sounded anymore.

@Araquanid How exactly does Hyper Training work, and where is Mr. Hyper? Also, will the Pokemon keep its fake IVs even when its level is automatically set to 50 for certain battle rules?

The pokemon will keep its fake IVs for all battles, they will not affect a pokemon's hidden power or be passed down through breeding.

Mr. Hyper is in Hau'oli city's mall. He will train your pokemon to have maximum IV stats for bottle caps (or he'll fake max IV all 6 stats at once for a gold bottle cap) if they're level 100.

You can trade 30 shards (red, green, blue etc) for a bottle cap in festival plaza, or you can randomly find gold bottle caps with the mining island in poke palego.

What mall in Hau'oli City? Is it by the salon and clothing store?

@LegendOfPokemon Right side of the pokemon center, and he's on the top floor to the right.

@Araquanid Thank you!

Has anyone found the salon on the third island?

Yay I finally got Moon.

Can't wait to start the game.

So I've managed to get 31 IV of each stat in at least one pokemon I own. I'm going to start chain breeding those IVs onto one (dewpider) and then have a 5 IV pokemon to effectively breed off of for the water / bug egg group (and then breed those 5 IVs onto other pokemon to spread to other egg groups.)

Breeding these ivs will be tricky... currently I have x/31/31/x/x/x dewpiders at my disposal, and atm I have a 31 HP roggenrola, 31 Sp.D Abra, and a 31 Spe Poliwag, and one of my friends was lucky enough to get a 31 IV SpA popplio as his starter.

I'm gunna have to take all these pokemon and breed these specific IVs to a single dewpider like this:

Roggenrola - > snorunt - > cottone - > Paras - > Dewpider

Abra - > Riolu - > PsyDuck - > Dewpider

Poliwag - > Dewpider

Popplio - > Dewpider

The result would be 31/31/31/x/31/31 Dewpider, and then I can breed that dewpider, with a second one from this that's 31/31/31/31/31/x, giving me a chance to get a 6 total IV dewpider to use for breeding the entire water 1 and bug egg groups, and if I want 5 IV pokemon for the other egg groups, I can chain breed all 5 IVs at once to a particular pokemon.

So basically, I got my less convient ditto finally.

After I get this all taken care of, I can make breedjects for you guys if you need them.

Was not expecting to be underleveled for the Pokemon League! I just got destroyed.

Well, I have been playing for a few hours.

My current team is... Litten, Grubbin and Wingull.

I've also been trying to catch all the different pokemon I find.