Topic: Pokémon Sun & Moon - Discussion & Speculation

@CrazedCavalier Nope, read the text, "just" an NPC. Don't think you can catch that.

@Octane @CrazedCavalier This now raises another question.

First it pretty confirms what we all thought about Aether. Secondly the heeeeelllllll is she doing?

Apparently a ROM is already available online. I've got the file right opened in a new tab.. So the game's playable, in a not so very legal way, a week before launch. That's pretty messed up..

@Octane I said "is this even Pokemon", not "is this even a Pokemon".
It's crazy is what it is, and I'm loving it.

@Tsurii Yeah, it's pretty bad. I mean, the entire Pokedex already leaked within minutes after the demo came out. And now this.

@CrazedCavalier Well, I misread your post then!

This is worse than what happened with X and Y, right?

Guys.

Prepare to be disappointed.

Base Stats confirmed: http://pastebin.com/GwZBGpfx

@MegaBeedrill
Stats are weird. Komala's 115 attack.. Pyukumuku with those high def stats.. Definitely not the things you'd expect. A lot of slow Pokemon too. Looks like Trick Room will get plenty of use.

All the movepools, typings, nam- just go to this channel and in his uploads, we know everything:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDUx8yi0740c5An0fWdFDvw

Seeing how the game has been leaked early and people are able to play it by illegitimate ways....

The site rules are still the same, if you're pirating the game please keep it to yourself.

@Meowpheel These are live copies (games are shipped out to be on shelf for release).

So these leaks are from people who got the games loose or off work, and of course get datamined like the demo.

_{But seriously however... there are roms out there already from some people}

So, Alolan forms are confirmed to just be genwunner pandering. No base stat changes whatsoever- they're really only type swaps.

This really does kinda feel like Gamefreak just gave up on the metagame. People arguing "quality over quantity" have got nothing- very few pokemon in Gen VII look viable at all.

Like, as sad as it is that the Pokemon this gen have some weird stats, it makes the base non-competitive game possibly more challenging as a result. Apparently the amount of EXP you recieve from grinding is at Black and White levels, meaning grinding is extremely hard. Your Pokemon will likely barely ever pass the level of opponent trainer Pokemon. This could prove to, at the very least, be a more challenging base game.

@CrazedCavalier

Alolan ninetails had a -9 attack nerf and a +9 speed buff.

So while regular ninetails has 100 speed alolan has 109.

Also one of the best changes (for me anyway) is ariados gets sword's dance now and toxic thread (lowers the attack stat of pokemon), Flygon gets Dragon Dance Finally , Masquerain got +20 Sp.A and Speed (seriously, why did they just randomly add 40 points to its BST... this is insane and I sweep with masquerain already) and knock off/sucker punch got nerfed (45/70BP now respectively).

Also:

Torkoal gets drought
Pelipper gets Drizzle
Gigalith gets sand stream
Vanillux gets Snow Warning
Beartic gets a hail version of swift swim in Snow Rush
Lurantis sucks, its hidden is contrary, the only negative stat changing move is leaf storm, and it has only 45 speed, i cri

Gengar lost levitate for cursed body as well, sucks for gengar mains.

@BlatantlyHeroic I mean, it actually counters the EXP share fairly well. I'm okay with that, especially for the hilarity of beating a level 50 mon with the EXP share on and watching a level 1 mon shoot up 20 levels.

@MegaBeedrill Okay, there's a few tweaks. But still, nothing huge.

Don't want to be spoiled? Do what I do! Ignore it all and forget what you saw. EASY!

@MegaBeedrill - After 4 Generations, Gengar's ability is suddenly not Levitate any more? Something about that is really baffling to me. Happy to hear about Masquerain though, love that Pokémon. ^^

Its probably one of those "Alolan adaptations".

You know, except for Gengar it didn't come with a wig or extra coat of snow.

Gen 5 exp system was terrible. It made the game take twice as long without enough content to justify it, and it made it way too difficult to train. If you wanted harder training in Gen 6, disable Exp Share. Gen 5 you were just stuck with a terrible exp system.

Leech Life now has a base power of 80...