Random: Amy Is No Longer The Damsel In Distress In Sonic Origins Plus Clip

Wow - a positive article on the game!! 😀😀 I’m looking forward to receiving my copy on Friday! (Or sooner hopefully!)

Damsel in distress is already a history.
Now every female characters can be as strong as male characters.

She hasn't been a Damsel in Distress in 24 years making this kind of framing kinda cringe.

@ottoecamn The first, last and only time this ever happened was in Sonic CD.
But I'll let it slide since Sonic CD is the only game they're talking about here.

If anything, she is technically made more powerful than Sonic in terms of gameplay in some games, being one of the easier characters in the Advance games and Heroes.

Also, I really love the use of the USA soundtrack.

Yeah girl power!

I mean a being swinging a hammer bigger than herself is plenty capable of self defence.

If I had to guess, Amy will probably end up just destroying a flower capsule at the end of Stardust Speedway, much like Tails does in the Whitehead port, rather than saving a character. But if she saved Sonic, Tails, or Knuckles, that would be very fun! I'm glad she's a part of the Origins Plus release and I'm excited to play as her!

Well, considering she could hold her own as a Freedom Fighter in the Sonic comic book series by Archie Comics (which is the series I am used to; I am still bummed that they rebooted, then cancelled, the series without a satisfying resolution to the story; particularly the final defeat of Eggman, Sally Acorn being turned back to normal, and her and Sonic finally getting married), I am not surprised she can hold her own here.

Plus, in more "modern" Sonic games, she is also playable. One of the earliest Sonic games in my memory where you could play as her was Sonic Advance 3 for the Game Boy Advance. Then she was playable in games like Sonic Riders for the PS2, the Xbox, and the GameCube. And then there's that endless runner game Sonic Dash for mobile systems.

Of course not, we do not want to make the self-entitled, left-winged social justice warriors mad who never played a Sonic game in their lives. Also, Amy wasn't a damsel in distress since SA for the Dreamcast, something a real gamer would know. Gosh, I hate the 2010/2020s so much. I will be one of the happiest people on earth, if the forced liberal agendas will finally leave the entertainment industry, and we can have fun again.

Rewrite history? She had an actual story arc. In Sonic CD she needed to be saved because she had no experience but then in Sonic Adventure she figures out how to take care of herself. She says she will reach a point where Sonic will respect her. And then when we get to Sonic Heroes, she is nearly as fast as Sonic.

She hasn’t been for years now, Amy has been able to take care of herself and tag along sonics adventures just fine, so I’m not sure why there now trying to act like she wasn’t.

My copy has just arrived! If anyone has any questions please let me know - and yes unfortunately it is a download code for Amy and the Game Gear titles

The physical version is Origins only - Origins plus remains as dlc NOT on the cartridge. (It just calls it origins on the menu screen before you put in the download code)

Annoyingly it won’t let me download the code so I guess I can’t play the plus version until Friday

I love that Amy is finally getting her proper chance to play along with the boys in the classic games. That was my dream as a kid. I can't tell you how excited I was when Sonic 2 launched, and Tails was introduced, I really wanted to play as him. Same with Knuckles for Sonic 3. When Amy was announced for Sonic CD, I really wanted to play as her, and always felt gyped that she was limited to "only" the damsel to be rescued.

I was very happy that she was playable in her own right in the Sonic Advance games, the Adventure series etc. But that was modern Amy in modern games. I've always dreamed of classic Amy getting a chance to explore the classic games. Now I get that, 30 years later, and though its silly I actually shed a tear when it was anounced.

@presenttense My question is... what happens when you play as Amy in Sonic CD and you get to the parts where Amy usually would be? Is Sonic stood there where she would be? Does he get kidknapped by metal Sonic and she must rescue him? Or is it another character? Or do they just remove all that completely and treat the levels as normal? This teaser is being very careful to not show us, but I really want to know. Perhaps label it as "spoilers" for those wanting to see it for themselves...

[edit] ah, boo I just saw that you can't download the code til later. Well, if anyone else sees a leaked video or something, let me know please! haha

@Hydra_Spectre (snort) Well Actually.

There was the Adventure 1 where she was Kidnapped in Sonic's story by Zero, and Adventure 2 where she was used as Chao Emerald leverage by Dr Eggman.

So it's 3 times.

@samuelvictor Yeah sorry about that - it is just Sonic origins I can play and not plus yet

@RupeeClock yeah but this kind of rethoric always makes me think of that whole "being progressive is pretending all the progress that came before never happened so you claim to be breaking a glass ceiling that doesn't exist" thing.

Anyway, I wonder if she'll have the same skills in sonic superstars. It looks fun.

@presenttense No worries! If you have the physical copy in your hands right now I'm still very jealous! haha

@samuelvictor I do!! But just can’t play the extras yet! The artbook is lovely 😀

@ottoecamn Agree with your take on "ignoring previous progress so we can act like we made the progress." As someone who almost always picks a female character in games when I can, I am a little irked that they are "rewriting the story" of a female character that already became capable and resourceful in her own right after a single time being rescued due to no experience.

Game looks really awesome, and if she plays well I'll gladly play as Amy. I just don't see the need to act like this is progressive or groundbreaking when it's ignoring the past to claim that.

To be fair to Sonic CD, in this game, Amy isn't really Sonic's love interest, and she certainly isn't his "prize" to win by rescuing her. According to the manual, she is 8 years old and has an unrequited crush on him, and he was officially 15, according to Sonic Jam.

It's clear from the early key art that he is kinda annoyed by her but of course feels duty bound to rescue her, as he would any child that he literally saw getting kidknapped infront of him! lol The end of the game is him putting her down, making sure she is safe, then running away. He doesn't kiss her or anything. It wasn't really the "damsel in distress" trope and it makes sense that Amy didn't really start fighting back and showign her true personality until she was older. But I'm still glad that now she gets a chance to shine in the way childhood me really wanted her to

@JohnnyMind Haha thank you. I know its weird that I care so much about playing a pink hedgehog rather than a blue one (especially as I'm a 40+ year old man) its just that its something I've always wanted to happen but kinda gave up hope. Getting this plus Superstars in one year is amazing to me

@RupeeClock Hahaha I was literally thinking about posting this same clip. I love it. Its these kinds of things I keep in mind when writing representative characters in my movie scripts. If you have to point out what you are doing, or make it seem like an exception, you're kinda part of the problem, even if the intentions are good. That said, thats not what Sega are doing here, its clearly a tongue in cheek trailer and only related to this one particular game - and as you aid it will still play out the same if you control Sonic so they aren't truly "rewriting history" in any significant way, just offering a temporary vew at an alternate reality as a novelty for those who want to play within it.

@presenttense So jealous! I'm very excited to have it in my hands at last! I love the Mania Plus packaging and book and can't wait for them to have company on my shelf displaying my very favourite things! 🥰

@samuelvictor I hope I haven’t screwed it up by putting in the code too early 🥴

@presenttense I'm sure that won't be a problem. Theres no way they would expect for zero copies to be posted out early or accidentally sold before launch day by retailers!

@ottoecamn Very much this.
Nobody has associated Amy with that role in a long time and when there are games that do have her needing to be rescued it's always along with the rest of the cast, (a different problem fans have but I'm not going to get into that now).
Also I don't care for how the trope "Damsel in Distress" is looked at so negatively these days. As time goes on I tend to appreciate these classic tropes more. There's a reason why they have stood the test of time and are reused in many stories, to claim it's outdated or offensive feels a tad immature.

@JohnnyMind Thanks 😀 I'm aware that I go on about it a lot and it might seem weird that I'm so passionate about such a small thing! 😂

I'm autistic and as a child I found it a lot easier to read the emotions of cartoon characters and puppets as they were so exagerated, so to this day I feel more emotionally attached than is probably normal. And I know some people in the Sonic community can be creepy in their feelings towards the characters so I don't want anyone to think thats the way I'm looking at it. I very much see the classic Sonic characters as friends that I went on adventures with when I was young. Playing the games takes me back to these happy days.

@samuelvictor Looking forward to Friday too. Finally a second Sonic game on the Switch after Sonic Mania (Plus). This time I did not double dip, so waiting for the physical of Sonic Origins Plus was a long wait.

Maybe it's time to write another story, then rewrite old stories?🤔

@Yosti Glad you're excited!

Yes this will be my second Sonic game on Switch too. I didn't buy Frontiers, Forces, Colours Ultimate or Team Racing on Switch because of performance concerns. I keep meaning to get cheap copies second hand at some point but honestly I don't care too much about any of them. I quite like Frontiers and the new DLC and info leaking from Kishimoto makes me more excited for how it will develop in the future but for me that game is a "play it on teh most powerful hardware you can afford" kind of deal.

But for me, the 2d retro style games are just SO at home on the Switch. Given that Sega no longer make consoles, childhood me would definitely want to play these games on a Nintendo system, though it would blow his mind at the mere prospect. 😅

@samuelvictor I am only interested in the 2D games. But also didn't bought the SEGA AGES releases and the SEGA Megadrive Classics because I knew there already was a widescreen version on mobile.

I had that feeling with Sonic Advance on the GBA. Cool to play Sonic on a Nintendo system

@Yosti I buy and play all of the Sonic games, but none of the 3d platform games have ever impressed me as much as the 2d ones, which are mostly all up there in my favourite games of all time 😍 I mostly prefer 2d games to 3d games, and these are the types of games I create myself - retro style indie games but with some modern QOL twists.

Yes it was crazy the first time I played Sonic Advance on GBA - and the fact I really loved the game and in many ways it felt "next gen" compared to the 16bit titles made me love it even more - not to mention that I could play as Amy. Before that, I'd bought a Neo Geo Pocket Colour specifically to play Sonic Pocket Adventure, the first time a real Sonic game had been on a non-Sega console, and that blew my mind... but when he started to be on Nintendo consoles that was just crazy. 🤣

The only 3d "Sonic" game that to me is near flawless is Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed, but of course thats not a platform game. Its my favourite kart racer to this day, even if MK8 Deluxe gives it stiff competition.

If you play on decent enough hardware, Frontiers is one of the best 3d Sonic games, though far from perfect, but I keep up with the leaks of the developer Kishimoto who is always interacting with fans about how to improve the game, what features to add/change etc, and I'm impressed with him wanting to improve it and get it up to fans expectations... an impossible task, but he seems to genuinely want to get as close as possible and is actively working on listening to fans, even checking out community mods and fixes to see if new features or changes could be made in teh real game or its sequel. I'm excited to see how it evolves over time, and what features and ideas he saves for the full sequel.

@HotGoomba this is my new favorite image of sonic.

@RupeeClock the one good thing to come out of Book is that line xD

Why can’t Sonic be a damsel in distress too? Don’t be sexist.

The USA comic made Amy get older from
8 to 12 old in the Archie comics version with her new red dress. In Sonic X she has a temper that could rival Knuckles.

Wait, you can just run by Metal Sonic with no collision detection as long as it's not charged up?! No wonder I had so much trouble with that boss! I thought you needed to jump over it whenever you passed it!