You really want to take games away from kids cause they ain't 'hardcore'? Sad, man, sad. (my only post in this topic, I will NOT get drug down into another argument.....
I don't know. On one hand, I like quality titles and I acknowledge that this game is not for me nor is it aimed at me. Therefore I should ignore it.
On the other hand, I can imagine the poor kid who is going to get a wii on his birthday, be excited about it, his first game is going to be "its my birthday", and he will have a sour taste in his mouth for all games on that system from that point on.
I can't decide whether or not to ignore it. By thinking this way I inherently choose not to ignore it. It is quite the conundrum.
Not to sound self-centered in my thoughts, but I think that most people feel this way. And since it is stuck in our minds like this, we choose to talk to others about it.
The topic of "It's my Birthday" isnt so much about the game itself so much as it is the genre that surrounds it. It is (as you know) what most gamers deem as "shovel-ware"
But let's think back to the late 80's for a moment. The NES was the top selling system and "shovel-ware" was being poured onto it. I'm not talking a rainstorm of it, I'm talking a hurricane of bad sports and movie tie-ins.
BUT people bought it. And it made Nintendo a success. Then they went on in the early 90's to create the Super Nintendo. and so on and so on.
My point is, shovel-ware gives companies money and lessons so that they can (hopefully) create better games in the future. Look at some of the great games companys that are nothing now. Alternatively look at some of the no name companies putting out great games now. Most everything evens out in the end.
On the other hand, I can imagine the poor kid who is going to get a wii on his birthday, be excited about it, his first game is going to be "its my birthday", and he will have a sour taste in his mouth for all games on that system from that point on. ******************8
You assume he will not like it. Reality is, neither you or future him/her have played it, and you cannot judge your own reaction today or his in any scenario whatsoever.
The 2nd reality is his Wii, if purchased in any territory but Japan, will come with Wii Sports, which will in fact be his frist game. Also he will have preloaded software such as Mii channel.
Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
On the other hand, I can imagine the poor kid who is going to get a wii on his birthday, be excited about it, his first game is going to be "its my birthday", and he will have a sour taste in his mouth for all games on that system from that point on. ******************8
You assume he will not like it. Reality is, neither you or future him/her have played it, and you cannot judge your own reaction today or his in any scenario whatsoever.
The 2nd reality is his Wii, if purchased in any territory but Japan, will come with Wii Sports, which will in fact be his frist game. Also he will have preloaded software such as Mii channel.
good point. I have not played it. I was the same one who assumed that "NASCAR kart racing" would be terrible and it actually got some good reviews. And no matter what the game is there will be one person at least who likes it. But what if the game is as bad as most people perceive it? If it is, and most people would agree that it likely will be (seeing as how most of the posts on this are negative towards the game), then my point is valid. I agree that we can not judge a game before we play it though
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I actually am drawn to NASCART as well, I adore the graphics stlye, and I am fan of neither NASCAR or realisitc NASCAR racing games....
So I guess that must be my pony. It does not have online, but, 'oh well'.
I admire you for actualy allowing thar the 'other side' has raised a valid point. I understand your point, but I have to say, most, if not all, of the people who have negative preconceptions of this game are not the inteneded audience and are not looking for this sort of gameplay. So their rancor and concern is confusing to me, as I have stated a time or two before in this thread, and the ill fated thread that precedededed it.
Different age groups and fans of different genres certainly would look for different things in the games that they buy. I know this is stark comomn sense, but I do feel that common sense has been lost by some in this topic
Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
Yes they did cap publishers, but that would not neccesarily produce 'higher quality' games. Game can have long dev times and still be poor and/or unfun.
Perhaps but it works better than not having any limit. Thus, my point of the quality control, however questionably effective, being better back then as opposed to now still holds.
And no, I did not ignore your post, I was not repsonding to you with that other post, as yours was not visible when I wrote my message. Another false assumption/jumping to conclusions on your part. I do not understand why some here continue to treat me in such a poor manner.
I don't believe I treated you 'poorly.' I'm sorry if I made an assumption. As for treating you poorly, it is my strong opinion that those want respect have to show others it as well.
[21:14] pixelman: I blame fheblackdragon
[21:15] pixelman: That's not an f by the way, it's a fancy t.
[21:15] Objection: Tales of Graces "fancy t"
[21:15] Objection: Tinal Tantasy
[21:15] theblackdragon: lol OB
[21:15] pixelman: OB knows what he's asking about.
There he goes again with his "you're not the intended audience" thing. We just went back to page 1. I don't think there should be an intended audience for bad games.
Perhaps but it works better than not having any limit. Thus, my point of the quality control, however questionably effective, being better back then as opposed to now still holds. *******
No it does not. It does not guarantee 'quality' games in the subjective sense you are suggesting.
I will now split this thread into a sub argument.
Compare the tools available to a buyer of games in 1985, as to now,
You have newspaper, magazine and internet reviews. You have several high quality game sites and message boards where first hand imppresions can be found from fellow gamers. You have Youtube where you can find game play videos and see actual gameplay. You have EBAY and other online stores where you can buy games secondhand from a worldwide market, and sell unwanted titles secondhand to a worldwide market.
This makes the lynching of titles such as My Birthday' all the more ridiculous. Because this title will not catch anyone who has posted here 'unawares'. You are not buying games blind, unless you choose too.
In fact the opposite is occuring - a game is being negativly presented and trashed by an independent gaming site and a select few of their forum of readers, off of NO gameplay experience, merely a 3 paragraph press release and a handful of screenshots...doesn't any one here feel they owe the publisher and game makers a little respect? To present their title in a fair and unbiased manner? To not jump to conclusions, or judge games for things they are not intending to accomplish?
I think independent game sites - if they wish to be professional and taken seriously - should show respect to the game makers who provide their trade with its marrow - and be fair and unbiased of their product. How can you critique what you have not played?
Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
(my only post in this topic, I will NOT get drug down into another argument.....
I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out but you won't see me fighting till the death against those that automatically dismiss the game as shovelware.
Eugene, I can see where you're coming with the "give it a chance" thing and I can at least respect that. However, I think some games CAN be judged on their premise. The only thing more ridiculous than having a video game "birthday" is having a video game "lunch." That's right, no actual food just a game that simulates it with minigames. Does that show why some people are dismissing this? Can you at least see where they might be coming from?
[21:14] pixelman: I blame fheblackdragon
[21:15] pixelman: That's not an f by the way, it's a fancy t.
[21:15] Objection: Tales of Graces "fancy t"
[21:15] Objection: Tinal Tantasy
[21:15] theblackdragon: lol OB
[21:15] pixelman: OB knows what he's asking about.
I do not have that game, again, and do not want it - but it has its cult group of 'core' fans, and has been succesful.....'My Birthday' is simply a theme no worse or better than many many games who build their gameplay around such things....so, no, I do not think this game is especially notable or 'worse' in any way.
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Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
I thought Cooking Mama was going to be successful from the moment I heard of it. Young girls are a significant audience on the DS, and this obviously appeals to them. The question is, how young do you have to be to like the idea of a fake birthday party? Especially when it's unlikely to be released near the kid's actual birthday, for most of them. But again: I don't care if it is successful. I know you like to pretend I've said otherwise, but I'm just unemotionally speculating because the game is a curiosity.
I am not saying this game is in the same league as Wii Sports, and I consider Wii Sports to be 5 themeatic arcade games on a disc as opposed to a 'minigame' fest - but -
How young at heart do you have to be to appreciate going 'pro' in any of those sports? Especially when you are unlikely to go ' pro' in any of those 5 sports in real life?
What differnece does that make? Suddenly the 'theme' of this game is a stumbling block? This continues to grow more confusing for me to sort out, it is all a muddle. Kids pretend to have birthdays all the time anyway, or hold them for dolls or imaginary friends.....why even try to justify it?
Hardcore, casual = marketing. The real divide is between arcade and narrative games.
When was it about anything else...? What did you think you were arguing all this time? Your confusion confuses me. We know nothing else but the theme, so obviously that is why people are making jokes about cake coming out the disc slot, etc.
And I don't see how Wii Sports is remotely comparable. Sports appeal to a very wide audience. Birthday simulators... probably not as wide.
Thank you Captain Obvious. Wii Sports sales prove there are many, many interested in virtual sports. There is no prior evidence of interest in birthday simulation games, so all we can do is guess.
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