Topic: Emily Rogers: The Battalion Wars series should have been on Wii U

http://www.dromble.com/?p=10708

It's a very interesting idea. That said, I played some of Battalion Wars 2, and I lost interest pretty quickly.

Might be a good idea commercially speaking, and I'd definitely be interested, but on the one hand I'd rather stick to the original Advance Wars or Fire Emblem formula, and on the other Nintendo's very limited development ressources plus the desperate WiiU situation simply means opportunities will be missed no matter what.

Good thing that Intelligent Systems, not Nintendo, is responsible for the Wars series then. They've got a 3DS game coming out in a couple months and are co-developing a Wii U game with Atlus, but other than that, have nothing on their plate at the moment.

My guess though is that with Fire Emblem: Awakening hitting 1.5 million sales, that IS will be making another FE for 3DS. Depending on how far along in development FExSMT actually is though, there's a chance we could see Battalion Wars return to console. Or Paper Mario, but historically, there's only been one Paper Mario game per generation, and there's already one on 3DS.

The game could still show up, but it's obviously not a priority. I didn't even like these games very much, and I'm pretty sure that they were mainly a commercial failure.

The article is just an opinion. There are a lot of good points, some misconception about Nintendo in general, but otherwise it's an okay article.

GameCube not doing so well is ultimately what put Nintendo down the road to motion control, weaker online, and graphics. That's the biggest factor in everything Nintendo did with Wii, because GCN was a "core" system just like PS2 and Xbox, but it was still basically a commercial dud. Even the Xbox didn't do so hot, but they went in with a plan for Xbox Live beforehand, while Nintendo acted accordingly to what was currently happening, which is why Wii U's online is already a massive improvement by default.

That's the biggest factor in everything Nintendo did with Wii, because GCN was a "core" system just like PS2 and Xbox, but it was still basically a commercial dud.

Except from hardware to design to marketing, Nintendo put no effort in making it a "core" system. It just had core specs.

It's remarkably obvious why everyone chose to develop for PS2 instead, and no it wasn't installed base.

Not really. GameCube had the same type of marketing PS3 had. They put enough effort into making it a "core" system, which is why we had exclusive games like Resident Evil 0, REmake, and 4. We also had Sonic Adventure 2 as an exclusive, besides Dreamcast, Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes remake was exclusive, ect. Those were all "core" games that still didn't convince people to buy it, AND with better graphics than PS2.

The only thing PS2 had was DVD, otherwise it didn't have as good of graphics as GCN or Xbox, and Xbox still supported DVD, too. The whole "kiddie" argument that people made about GCN is just as immature as it was in 6th gen, as it is now for Wii U, especially when we actually had more "core" 3rd party games on GCN than Wii U.
GameCube looks like a lunchbox, and PS3 looks like a damned grill. Big f***ing deal, bro.

@CaviarMeths Sure, but IS is a subsidiary of Nintendo. For all intends and purposes IS's development ressources are Nintendo's and vice versa. With S.T.E.A.M development to be wrapped up, they might have ressources available again for another project. SMTxFE seems stuck in development hell tbh, two weeks from now it will be exactly two years since it's announcement without so much as a fuzzy screen shot released. Maybe some of those ressources will be allocated to SMTxFE than ... who knows. I agree that thanks to the success of FE:A we'll see another Fire Emblem game (thank god for that), but when and on what platform is anyones guess. Maybe 3DS, maybe N3DS, maybe even WiiU (depending on the ultimate fate of SMTxFE) or the the next hardware iteration Nintendo has undoubtly around the corner.
The thing is while originally intended as a Spin-Off from the Advance Wars series, Batallion Wars was never developed by IS, interesstingly enough their latest one, the aformentioned S.T.E.A.M looks to be more similar to Batallion than to Advance Wars in many ways, though maybe that is a sign of things to come?
I always liked Advance Wars (and FE) better, way better really, so that's why I pointed to those games, but I guess much of that is owned due to the fact that the guys at Kuju Entertainment can't hold a candle to the talent at IS.
So maybe if IS made a Battallion game, I would turn out even better and I could really love it, who knows. Still, I'd rather see more Fire Emblem, or maybe even better more Advance War yet, but that is certainly a matter of personal preference.
I also think IS has something more pushmo/crashmo related in the works, probably with a small team. As long as they steer clear of Wario minigame collections I'm probably happy with anything they'll make (Loved Pushmo!^^)

@Ralek85 IS is independently owned. They are a 2nd party not owned by Nintendo. Similar situation as Gamefreak. They have their own resources and staff, but develop exclusively for Nintendo. Has a lot to do with how all the big managers at those companies are all BFFs. That whole situation is confusing as all get out though, none more confusing than the question "who actually owns Pokemon?"

I agree that I like my IS games on handheld though. They seem to have a better knack for that. Battalion Wars was OK, and the GC/Wii Fire Emblems were good too, but it's really something that I want to play on the go.

I really don't want to get drawn into another "it's not underpowered, it's just different" type debate with you, but I found this bit funny.

How to advertise a grill:

How to advertise a lunchbox:

@CaviarMeths
I'm guessing that since kids are in the lunchbox advertisement, and young adults are in the grill advertisement, that you think the grill is more "mature". A mature adult would know that you need a proper lunchbox to bring the things you grilled on the grill with you, to eat at another time and place.

The Gamecube was originally going to have motion controls.

I'd love to see a Battalion Wars and Advance Wars on their respective systems. However, I agree with Caviar and predict another FE on 3DS. Although we already got a Paper Mario this generation, I still think we're do for a more traditional Paper Mario on a console. Intelligent Systems is an amazing dev. I hope they expand like Retro did.

I miss Battalion Wars and Advance Wars... But I'd rather see FE go back to console. I know it won't happen but I can dream.

I'm guessing you don't work in marketing.

Do you have a source for that, because it was my understanding that they are simply a Nintendo development team, until recently even housed in one of their research facilities. It would be curios if they were independently owned since they also play a role in development of Nintendo hardware and the creation of development tools themselves. Gamefreak is a different story though as you say, since they develop for Nintendo, but a not a part of it/owned by it.

It was going to get motion controls later in it's life span, but 7th generation was ultimately around the corner with PS2, soon to be PS3 supposedly taking the lead, which ended up not really happening. The Wii was a rebrand so that the GCN name wouldn't be tied to it anymore, while bringing out new stuff. If GCN would have been more successful, they probably would have released the motion control for it, but that obviously didn't happen, and a lot of it had to do with PS2 being successful, which was also possibly going to get motion controls.
EDIT: If Nintendo were to have been in charge of PS2, we would have seen motion controls become a thing in 6th gen, and 6th gen probably would have gone on for another 3 years or so. They obviously weren't in the position Sony was, which would have allowed them to do that.

Well, I know that the "kiddie" vs. "mature" discussion is a common one, so I was just throwing that out there.