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Topic: N64 to HDTV..........

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OptometristLime

21. Posted:

MAB wrote:

CountWavula wrote:

First mistake...Hooking up an N64 to an HDTV. ;)
Get a 27" Tube TV, then you'll be playing with power.

Assuming that there is anything worth playing on N64 ;)

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Me, I grew up with the N64; my dad and I would rent one to play during down time after school.
I had always kind of hoped to revive that feeling and build a collection of games through the Wii Virtual Console. Alas, the collection of titles that made the jump was a dismal lot, compared to all the titles I had enjoyed back in the day. :$

Ocarina of Time was probably the best / most definitive experience I had, but other favorites include 1080 Snowboarding (and Snowboard Kids, for that matter), Paper Mario, Yoshi's Story...
There's plenty more that I know I would be willing to try, but I still need to build that collection. x(
So I guess this is my shout out to fans of the N64 era. :)

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22. Posted:

Tasuki wrote:

CountWavula wrote:

First mistake...Hooking up an N64 to an HDTV. ;) This goes for any retro console + none HD 'interlaced' console.
Get a 27" Tube TV, then you'll be playing with power.

I have to agree with the Wavester here. That's why all my retro systems are in my Retro Cave hooked up to a CRT tv. The only thing I need now is the old wood grain tv set to hook up an Atari to it.

Not only do they look better on an SDTV, they perform better and that's the most important thing. I can't deal with any sort of input lag when retro gaming it up, unless it's just 1 frame. It would also be a crime to play the atari 2600 on an HDTV. That system HAS to be played on one of these.

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A console should always reflect the times. ;)

But instead, i'll have to make due with a 90's Sony SDTV, after i get rid of my silver 2005 Wega trinitron which i'm ONLY keeping right now for the Wii due it's component connection. But eh, If i get an S-Video capable Sony CRT from the 90's wii games will still look pretty good Vs regular composite cables which totaly suck for anything other than retro 'retro' consoles. I also need a new VCR player, mine is officially on the fritz! I need to put my copy of Masters of the Universe to use! I tried watching it again on Bluray the other day and i just couldn't do it.....

The same even goes for DVD. the crystal clear resolution hampers the experience. There was just something about watching it on a crusty relic of a VHS tape on Wood panel Tube TV back in the day. The 240i resolution gave it a more surreal, raw, vintage & magical look rather than looking too realistic on an actual movie set that HD can do to a lot of films + exposing flaws for movies that weren never intended to be seen in HD. :P I'd much rather watch A Nightmare On Elm Street, Masters of the Universe, Ghobusters ect ect on a 27"- 32" on an 80's or early early 90's SDTV tube tv on VHS.

Luckily my recent copy of ghostbusters on bluray doesn't have the cleaned up, polished and modernized HD look. It doesn't even look that much better than the DVD version, and the end result makes you feel as if you're probably watching ghost busters back in an 80's movie theater. The odd thing is, ghostbusters on DVD on my SDTV looks noticeably crisper and clearer on my Tube Tv. figure that one out, perhaps the Bluray copy is just a crummy transfer? either way, meh. :P

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philly__jim

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Hi all, I apologise now for my naivety here. I recently got the itch to play some Goldeneye and was quickly disappointed when I read the issues people were having with hdtvs. By the looks of it, a CRT monitor looks the cheapest option (plus an s video connection). My question is - I can get hold of an old emac, which has a CRT display and s video port. Can anyone think of a good reason why it wouldn't work to play an N64 on? Many thanks!

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SphericalCrusher

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Just to add a note to the thread, I actively play my N64 on my son's 32" Sony LCD HDTV and it plays and looks well.

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SphericalCrusher wrote:

Just to add a note to the thread, I actively play my N64 on my son's 32" Sony LCD HDTV and it plays and looks well.

so maybe smaller TVs don't affect the image, just maybe....

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GuSilverFlame wrote:

SphericalCrusher wrote:

Just to add a note to the thread, I actively play my N64 on my son's 32" Sony LCD HDTV and it plays and looks well.

so maybe smaller TVs don't affect the image, just maybe....

LCD = Motion Smearing, typically weak black levels unless you're spending an arm & a leg,
You're gaining nothing by playing it on an LCD other than a super bright picture. N64 games are interlaced btw.
On a Tube CRT you'll get great blacks, perfect motion and zero input lag. Anybody can say it plays and looks fine to them, but side it with a good tube tv for these retro consoles and they'll be eating their words. I've done the whole LCD/LED and Plasma thing, not my cup of tea retro-wise.

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27. Posted:

WaveBoy wrote:

GuSilverFlame wrote:

SphericalCrusher wrote:

Just to add a note to the thread, I actively play my N64 on my son's 32" Sony LCD HDTV and it plays and looks well.

so maybe smaller TVs don't affect the image, just maybe....

LCD = Motion Smearing, typically weak black levels unless you're spending an arm & a leg,
You're gaining nothing by playing it on an LCD other than a super bright picture. N64 games are interlaced btw.
On a Tube CRT you'll get great blacks, perfect motion and zero input lag. Anybody can say it plays and looks fine to them, but side it with a good tube tv for these retro consoles and they'll be eating their words. I've done the whole LCD/LED and Plasma thing, not my cup of tea retro-wise.

thought so but never tried on a smaller LCD TV so, for me, it was a possibility.

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WildMan

28. Posted:

I have a 30" HDTV and all of my retro consoles look perfectly fine on it. I've never seen any of this so called "lag" or "smearing". Come to think of it, I've never noticed it on any HDTV I've used.

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WaveBoy

29. Posted:

Wolonzo wrote:

I have a 30" HDTV and all of my retro consoles look perfectly fine on it. I've never seen any of this so called "lag" or "smearing". Come to think of it, I've never noticed it on any HDTV I've used.

That's because you don't have a Tube SDTV tv on the side to compare it with. How can you feel 'lag' if you don't have a lag free set to compare it with? You can't form an opinion simply based on how you think it performs on any HDTV. Believe me, i've gone through sets with all degrees of input lag from 1 frame all the way up to 4.This entire HDTV lag ordeal is effing annoying in my books.

These days, on average a set will have 2-3 frames of lag. my current plasma as 2(35ms) and it still feels slightly heavier and less intuitive and 'not on the dime' vs my CRT....It really annoys me, but most people would be able to adjust. I guess i just care more about button response/gameplay rather than looking at a sparkly HD picture. You don't want to go over 2, believe me.

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WildMan

30. Posted:

@Waveboy Actually, I have 2 tube TVs... And I think that all that stuff people say about tube TVs being better is mostly junk.

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31. Posted:

WaveBoy wrote:

Wolonzo wrote:

I have a 30" HDTV and all of my retro consoles look perfectly fine on it. I've never seen any of this so called "lag" or "smearing". Come to think of it, I've never noticed it on any HDTV I've used.

That's because you don't have a Tube SDTV tv on the side to compare it with. How can you feel 'lag' if you don't have a lag free set to compare it with? You can't form an opinion simply based on how you think it performs on any HDTV. Believe me, i've gone through sets with all degress of input lag from 1 frame all the way up to 4.This entire HDTV lag ordeal is effing annoying in my books.

These days, on average a set will have 2-3 frames of lag. my current plasma as 2(35ms) and it still feels slightly heavier and less intuitive and 'not on the dime' vs my CRT....It really annoys me, but most people wouldn't be able to adjust. I guess i just care more about button response/gameplay rather than looking at a sparkly HD picture. You don't want to go over 2, believe me.

and HDTVs distort the image a little even in the 4:3 mode. some people even get dizzy with this(it's true, happened with my sister)

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