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DarthNocturnal

@BlueOcean

I was expecting XII on the 4th of Never. The XIII Trilogy, Type-0 and XV seemed to be the sole exceptions for Xbox as a whole. I assumed it was because they were the “bigger“ games (well, XIII and XV are. Type-0 is more spinoff-ish), and thus were more likely to actually sell decently on a system that isn't exactly known for Japanese RPGs. But I guess Square is seeing decent numbers (or Xbox is willing to shell out so they can cater to and grow that demographic).

Either way, and regardless of which system I get them for, this is great timing for me. IX is my 2nd favorite FF, XII is my 3rd (and I only played the original western release; never got Zodiac for PC), VII is fun, and I never did finish X, or buy the remaster on any prior system.

With any luck, they'll keep the ball rolling. On all platforms. 1-6, VIII (so I can actually try to finish it despite it's awkward junction system), Tactics, Chrono Trigger (maybe even Cross?), etc.

EDIT: Oh yeah. Kingdom Hearts. We already have 3 on XB1. We need the rest, so newcomers can catch up.

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"Sometimes, I just don't understand human behavior" - C-3P0

redd214

@BlueOcean thank you for your answer, I appreciate it, will probably be ordering one here soon!

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean I'm going to put my Thanos pedantic hat on for a moment simply because I dislike being called out on false context

You make me sound like a "Sony Pony" fanboy or something. I'm not. My point is all the consoles are good and I can't really decide which I like most, however like we discussed I love the XBox controllers most, prefer their digital ecosystem most, and, maybe just on account of the graphics of the X, have more games for XBox overall, standardized all my fighters on XBox with a Razer Atrox, and have re-purchased many 3rd parties I'd bought on PS4 prior to having the X on the X, leaving really just the exclusives on PS. Yet...I still love my PS4 too, and it feels special each time I use it.

My point of the list wasn't that Sony has "better" exclusives, my point was that they have more across a wider diversity and that that's a key challenge for XBox, as backed up by their weaker sales and public stereotyping of it. It wasn't a Sony Post, it was an XBox post (though I also was challenging Thanos's staunch XBox fanboy, anti-Sony stance as well )

I do agree the PS4, and Pro are dog ugly. "The Eraser" is just sad. X1 is pretty Fun fact, 1S is white largely to try to push it in Japan. Didn't work though.

Speaking of which, of course i like Japanese single player games. I don't really do multiplayer outside coop. This is a Nintendo forum....not liking that would be the oddity here, Mr. FF7!

I wouldn't say Naughty Dog is the main Sony producer these days. That's the same kind of Stereotype of "Xbox only has Halo!". In the PS3 years that was true. But it's really pretty diverse now, and some of their best (Insomniac, FROM, etc being multiplat developers.) Also, yeah I know Neir Automata isn't exclusive considering I bought it on a PS4 sale and then 3 weeks later found out it was coming to X1....so I re-bought it on X and commented that it looks so much better than on the Pro to the point I think the Pro version is broken ) I was copying/editing an old pre-E3 list I had for organizing my games into folders That one snuck past my edits of things that changed.

Quantum Break: It's definitely flawed. I like it, but I can't put it top tier. It's an experiment, certainly, and I'm not sure it went over well in general. But it's enjoyable for what it is, and I'm glad it exists, but it's definitely not an A-lister.

"PushSquare" Not just no, but heeeeeeck no!

FF: Yeah yeah yea I'm pretty stunned. Those games for some reason never left Sony for 20 years. Now suddenly they're on all platforms? Meanwhile Last Remnant gets removed from PC and moved to Sony exclusive.......and KH3 jumps to XBox while 1&2 stay fixed on Sony, and Switch gets a watered down mobile version of a game designed for Vita & PS3. I will never, ever understand Square.

I will admit, as much as I disdain the Dualshock, something about playing FF on a different controller feels wrong. If there's any series at all I identify as the very feeling of a Playstation it's old FF. I have mixed thoughts about rebuying, but....no graphics advantage to non-Switch consoles. Switch wins there.

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@DarthNocturnal I'm so confused. I'm talking about the entire Final Fantasy series. In an XBox thread on a Nintendo forum. This.....feels.....something isn't right......Who are you people? What are you doing to me?!?!

Type 0 I was so turned off by the half hour plus intro showcasing the suffering of death. Heavy themes are important but iti's a video game. At some point it's supposed to become fun.....

8 has vanished into the memory hole. It wasn't actually really good technically, but still it's weird it's so forgotten.

I at least want to see 13 trilogy go BC....I seriously thought the 2 sequels already were. You burst my bubble.

12, yeah I played partway through the PS2 release. Never saw Zodiac so that's all new. And people praise X. I like it but can never get myself to finish it for some reason. 7 and 9 keep you glued. 8 and 10 kind of lost my interest after a while. Somehow 13 kept me glued even though it was terrible.

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DarthNocturnal

@NEStalgia

Embrace the console heresy. Heck, I watched the Nintendo Direct on the Youtube app on my XB1. And that's a milder example.

Type-0 kinda felt... off. I've barely gotten into it. The game plays a bit stiff (probably a side effect of it's original platform), and... do I really have 10+ characters to individually level? From the start? Waah?

VIII has only gotten it's PC version re-released on Steam (and I heard it's pretty bare bones, unlike VII and IX). Not even PS4 has VIII (although, it's 20th anniversary happens early next year).

The fact the XIII games aren't BC might be a good thing, since it might mean Square has remaster plans.

XII, I beat it, beat some bonus content, took a loooong break, came back, and beat the bulk of the rest of the bonus content (including Yiazmat, a boss with an HP meter so long, it could wrap halfway around the world). At that point, I figured I really liked it. Which is funny; it's battle system felt awkward at first. Like a single player MMO, where DPS, Tank and Healer are all managed by one player. Thank goodness for the “Wait“ battle option.

A relative owned X on PS2. I played it when I could, but only got so far. Might as well start fresh on that.

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"Sometimes, I just don't understand human behavior" - C-3P0

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@DarthNocturnal I watched it on a Surface Pro with Edge. So there! I mean there's more WiiU owners than Edge users!

At this point we should just merge the PS4 and X1 threads. They talk mostly about the same games now. It can be the "The Second Consoles Thread" For those crazy enough to think they have time for consoles other than Switch....

To be fair everything FF feels off. But Type 0 felt really off. I mean it was a PSP game remastered so some of it will be wonky, but I don't think the wonky parts are related to it's handheld pedigree. The half hour plus of watching someone slowly die, alone, talking to a bird as his closest friend, before even pressing a button kind of sets the mood for "why am I spending any of my time on this? I don't remember seeing Kojima's name on the box...." Then you get into this fast paced action RPG and you're in this depressed mood...and then it has very weird mechanics. And is dressed all in shades of brown (who said that's a Western trait?)

There's some fair bet that 8 gets the remaster treatment like 7. But I do find it intersting that 7 on Switch/XB gets more fanfare than 7-R. Probably for good reason. But I don't know...8 just fanished off a cliff. It's never mentioned or discussed, it's glossed over in fanservice (WoFF, KH.) It's the forgotten FF, though 13 is joining it. The fact that PS4 doesn't have it is striking. Yeah they may remaster 13. But if they do it will be quite a while off with the huge dump of FF happening in 2019. It could also be a PS exclusive, like 7-R. But I'm wondering, given this dump, if suddenly the bromance between Sony and S-E has broken down somehow.....it's weird. They held their water for 2 decades and then in one instant open almost all of it at once.

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DarthNocturnal

Another strong possibility; Dissidia. Either 012 or NT brought over. Or both (they're different enough to warrant it). That'd be incredible.

"Sometimes, I just don't understand human behavior" - C-3P0

ThanosReXXX

@redd214 It's probably an age thing (the giant text walls)...
That, and not wanting to be misunderstood, and as such, using a lot of words to make abundantly clear what you mean...

Now watch out, 'cause here comes another one...

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@ThanosReXXX It's like we don't even know each other anymore! sobs

Ah, you'll get over it. Have a marshmallow on me...

Aww, only 4-5 games on that list you like? Dang that backlog is crushing me And that's my least populated console! But many of those games are at the top of my list! And I'm surprised no WipEout for you as an F-Zero fan and all!

WipEout ain't no F-Zero, it doesn't even come close. Totally different mechanics in more ways than one.
Entertaining games in their own right, and I liked the classic ones (got 'em on PC and N64), but I'm not a huge fan of the entire series.

And yeah I'm sure I missed a bunch from both platforms So many "timed exclusives" too. I never know Psycho Pass was a timed exclusive. It was a freebie on PS+ a few months back which is the first I'd heard of it (kind of a cool Japanese visual novel though.)

That's the beauty of the list I posted: it has all kinds of filters at the top, that you can apply to make those distinctions.

And Psycho Pass? No man, it's just called Game Pass, and it's really not all that crazy...
(how's that for cleverly steering the train back onto the actual forum topic's rails, huh?)

Oh man iRacing and Assetto Corsa. Never played one but the mental image in my head is of a blinking LED $2000 PC, and $5000 worth of custom wheels, pedals, shiftboxes, and force feedback chairs....

Don't forget to go all the way with a hydraulic platform with a car body on it, to put the chair in, and 360 degrees worth of screens...

@BlueOcean Thanks, and agreed on your criticism of the video. He did own up to where that came from, though: his annoyance at the design not clearly showing (in his opinion) where to insert the disc in the console.

Now, that may sound ridiculous, but I actually have experienced the same thing with my LG Bluray recorder. That too, has this groove/slit running across the entire length of the device, and it's always a bit of a guess where the middle of the drive slot is, so a disc can be inserted correctly. Nowadays, I'm used to that, but in the beginning, I found it rather annoying, to say the least. It's better than a tray, because in general, internal drive mechanisms last longer than ejecting ones, but still...

Oh, and agreed VERY much on Microsoft's exclusives: there may be less of them, but the ones that they DO have, are of a VERY high quality and substance. Wouldn't want to have missed out on them, and I'm very glad that I didn't.

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Oh, and calling ME pedantic? Now where's my Infinity glove thingy? Insolent Earthlings...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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@DarthNocturnal dissidia has hackneyed dual shocks in the arcade. I'm guessing it's largely Sony funded in one way or another. It's sonys pokken. Unfortunately

@ThanosReXXX lol! And, after the hydraulic lov lift, it might be cheaper to just bu buy the real Ferrari.....

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia If I had the money (and the floor space), I'd definitely go for that full package, though. I've seen one in action once, and a YouTuber who's name currently eludes me, made a video report on playing Project CARS in a full-on simulator like that, and it made quite the impression on me. (which was before I knew about all the bugs the game had, and before they lost all my respect by putting the supposedly already half-developed Wii U version in the shredder)

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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@ThanosReXXX if you had the money you dream of a hydraulic simulator rather than dreaming of the real deal Ferrari. We sure do dream big these days...

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@NEStalgia If I had the money to buy and install a simulator in my home, I would still be a VERY long way off from being able to buy a real Ferrari. And besides then being limited to only one car, I'd also have to take care of the rather hefty parking zone fee over here, which is €4,75 an hour, all day, every day. People can apply for their own parking permit, but that can take up to a year before you get one, and in the mean time, you'd still have to park your car somewhere, which will cost you an arm and a leg while waiting for that permit...

Even if I would have been a millionaire, I'd still consider that to be a huge waste of money.

Let that sink in for a bit...

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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@ThanosReXXX somehow i think if you could afford a Ferrari you wouldn't be worried slo about that. . Daydreaming about the simulator i suppose it's adequate. Now back to luxury vehicles closer to our real budgets:

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Well, you'd be wrong, AGAIN. You really do need to get better at guessing "what would ThanosReXXX do", because as it stands now, you'd never even get past the first round of the game, or maybe not even past the preliminaries...

Like I said: even if I actually WAS a millionaire, or generously rich, I'd still think it's a waste of money. Not because I wouldn't be able to afford it, but simply because I'm VERY aware of useless spending of money, whether that is in large or in small amounts.

Just imagine that I'd indeed had to wait a year for a parking permit, and I had to park my car in front of my apartment building: that would cost me around €41.610, which is an insane amount of money to pay for parking in any sane person's book, no matter which way you look at it.

And let's be honest: who in their right mind likes to give any city or government any amount of his or her own, hard-earned cash?

I'd rather spend it on something actually useful or beneficial to myself...

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

Nintendo Network ID: ThanosReXX

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@ThanosReXXX lol well sanity can't really be on the table for anyone buying something like a Ferrari to begin with . Then again i seea fair amount of such things here. It used to be rural. Then the rich folk started migrating here en masse. Now every intersection looks like Forza horizon. The game seems bland now. I see more porches at the supermarket than the first hour of Forza. Lamborghinis are popping up. And I'm seeing metallic paints now that reflect light like crazy the even Forza can't render . It's really obscene. Things like little sandwich shops are replaced by "farm to table organic" places with$13 sandwiches because that's the crowd now. You spend and keep up with the Joneses or stay home and speak with no one.

Edit of great, Google keyboard "upgraded" and now makesa mess if everything i type ! #wyping worked so so good and suddenly it's garbage.... Prepare for the typo King!

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia The sanity thing wasn't in regards to buying a Lambo, but in regards to needlessly filling the coffers of city and government officials. If I actually WAS a millionaire, then buying a Lamborghini would definitely NOT fall into the insane or waste of money category, seeing as it would perfectly line up with the last thing I said in the previous comment:

"I'd rather spend it on something actually useful or beneficial to myself..."

Just in case, for future reference, some things to know about me: I always speak my mind, so I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. No hidden truths, no reading between lines and so on. I'm the WYSIWYG guy...

Only during working hours will I (ever so slightly) color outside the lines, but at most to bend the truth somewhat, to fit the sales pitch, but still not too far from it to be offensive or untrue, which is what made me successful in the first place.

Both companies and customers like dealing with reliable people...

P.S.

I'm no grammar nazi, even though I have pointed out some minor typos to you every now and then, but in general, I won't hold it against people, if their typing skills are hindered by annoying touch screen keyboard schemes...

And besides: I've already gotten used to guys like rjejr with his still rather ""nails on a chalkboard"-like horrendous misspelling of "Nintendo", so I can handle a couple of typos from you every now and then as well...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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It amazes me how well some of the BC 360 games fare, at least on the X. I bought Mickey's Castle of Illusion for a few bucks on the BC sale last week and fired it up. It's a really inspired platformer (reviews at the time panned it but it's really something exceptional IMO), but more importantly it doesn't look old at all, it looks beautiful and perfectly modern. Not as shiny as Ori, but gorgeous all the same. It's quite amazing.

Of course some games are beyond salvation, Deus Ex: Human Revolution I swear looks uglier now than it did at launch if that's possible....

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia If you think that looks amazing, you should give Black from the OG Xbox a go. Already looks amazingly updated and upscaled on the S, and on the X, the resolution is double that of the S, so that should make it look even cleaner still.

And the gameplay is still VERY much intact. It was one of my surprise favorite games from the original developers of Burnout, and it's still fun to play.

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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