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03bgood

1. Posted:

I want it to have an analog stick and more buttons and the ability to play all Virtual Console games off the SD card. Wouldn't that be cool VC games on the go!

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Danny_August

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You most likely can on the DSi...In the fact the DSi just was released, you'll probably have to wait a while. Plus look at the world economy. Nintendo had reported a loss in profit for the first time in years on end...Now, Sony and MS have to shut down parts of their companies...hehehe

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Kawaiipikachu

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I'm glad I'm not the only one realizing the the DSi is nothing more than a stopgap.
I be waiting for when Nintendo announce the DS successor.
Analog stick at least double the DS CPU speed & enhanced GPU portible Virtual Console which includes gameboy & gamegear games as I know they will never appears on Nintendos little stopgap system.
Just hopefully Nintendo announce the DS successor sooner than later.

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Danny_August

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Kawaiipikachu wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one realizing the the DSi is nothing more than a stopgap.
I be waiting for when Nintendo announce the DS successor.
Analog stick at least double the DS CPU speed & enhanced GPU portible Virtual Console which includes gameboy & gamegear games as I know they will never appears on Nintendos little stopgap system.
Just hopefully Nintendo announce the DS successor sooner than later.

Honesty, how long have you gamed? I've been around it since the days of Atari and I don't remember a time ever when a company would put millions into R&D and create a stopgap. The DSi was developed and planned for from the conception of the DS. If anything, the gray brick was the stopgap along with the lite. Secondly, why is it that gamers are so complacent with their systems. Why must they run their mouths so much online? Why is it if you don't have every damn thing you want 2 seconds ago you fly off the handle? I speculate on the age of many of you as I have seen this type of thinking before...Grow up all of you...This again is why I stay away from forums...I would bet money that I have many posts from users completely flaming me on this post...And I would say they are young...And then I would say someone will report this post and get it removed...Yet the garbage you all spew forth about how much Nintendo sucks and the current hardware and games suck is just fine...Well, I think all the Nintendo products rock and most of the games rock...And I would love it if you would shut up and listen to yourselves...We'll see how long this post lasts...

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Mainstreamguy

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I'm sad i'm the only one realizing the Wii is nothing more than a stopgap
I mean, motion controls? You must be kidding me
And why are the graphics so bad? Do we live in the 60's or in the 21st century?
And Xbox360 and the PS3 are obviously only stopgaps either - I mean, who the hell wants good graphics?
And why are there no motion controls or something else revolutionary?
I'm still waiting for the real consoles, I'm sure they will be announced very soon
Will stick with my pong home console meanwhile...

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warioswoods

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1. Nintendo is not likely to ever offer home-console VC games on a portable system. They'll keep the two wholly distinct, with no GB/GBA titles ever appearing on the Wii VC, no home console titles appearing on the DSi VC, and no ability to transfer.

2. They will also never put an analog stick on a portable; they'll almost certainly stick to the traditional buttons and the touchscreen. Doing so would honestly be a terrible idea anyway; analog sticks don't work well on portable systems, and Nintendo's hardware designers are pretty smart about fitting the input to the system.

3. If you're waiting for DS2, have fun waiting for a least a couple years. I pay close attention to Nintendo's overall strategy, and everything they are doing in the portable realm is aimed squarely at the feature set of the DS and the additional features of the DSi. All the talk of a cell-phone-like device was just media sources trying to drum up some sort of iPhone duel or completely misunderstanding what Nintendo has said on these matters.

Nintendo is looking to push three new features / areas on the handheld market:

  • an expansion of DS / DSi local download hotspots, much like they have done with the baseball team they own, where you can access a range of location-specific features from your DS. They'd like to see this used in all sorts of places, from local venues to parks to museums to any location where having a little handheld guide would be beneficial. It remains to be seen how well they can get various locations to come on board and get past the initial setup, however.
  • New features offered via a connection between the Wii and the DS, like the new video service they have implemented in Japan that lets you download television shows to your DSi (apparently not your original DS, so it must require the better specs to play the high quality video).
  • A gradual but increasing emphasis on smaller downloadable titles offered via DSiWare.

Couple this with the fact that the DSi already has greatly improved specs (yes, the GPU details are uncertain but the CPU is certainly twice as fast and the RAM is 4x the original) and the announcement that there will eventually be DSi-only retail games, there simply is no rational place in their strategy for a DS2 of any sort at this time. Hold your breath at great risk to your health and well-being.

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Danny_August

7. Posted:

Mainstreamguy wrote:

I'm sad i'm the only one realizing the Wii is nothing more than a stopgap
I mean, motion controls? You must be kidding me
And why are the graphics so bad? Do we live in the 60's or in the 21st century?
And Xbox360 and the PS3 are obviously only stopgaps either - I mean, who the hell wants good graphics?
And why are there no motion controls or something else revolutionary?
I'm still waiting for the real consoles, I'm sure they will be announced very soon
Will stick with my pong home console meanwhile...

You are delusional...

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warioswoods

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@Danny August

You are delusional...

No, he's a clever satirist, unless I'm greatly mistaken.

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Danny_August

9. Posted:

warioswoods wrote:

1. Nintendo is not likely to ever offer home-console VC games on a portable system. They'll keep the two wholly distinct, with no GB/GBA titles ever appearing on the Wii VC, no home console titles appearing on the DSi VC, and no ability to transfer.

2. They will also never put an analog stick on a portable; they'll almost certainly stick to the traditional buttons and the touchscreen. Doing so would honestly be a terrible idea anyway; analog sticks don't work well on portable systems, and Nintendo's hardware designers are pretty smart about fitting the input to the system.

3. If you're waiting for DS2, have fun waiting for a least a couple years. I pay close attention to Nintendo's overall strategy, and everything they are doing in the portable realm is aimed squarely at the feature set of the DS and the additional features of the DSi. All the talk of a cell-phone-like device was just media sources trying to drum up some sort of iPhone duel or completely misunderstanding what Nintendo has said on these matters.

Nintendo is looking to push three new features / areas on the handheld market:

  • an expansion of DS / DSi local download hotspots, much like they have done with the baseball team they own, where you can access a range of location-specific features from your DS. They'd like to see this used in all sorts of places, from local venues to parks to museums to any location where having a little handheld guide would be beneficial. It remains to be seen how well they can get various locations to come on board and get past the initial setup, however.
  • New features offered via a connection between the Wii and the DS, like the new video service they have implemented in Japan that lets you download television shows to your DSi (apparently not your original DS, so it must require the better specs to play the high quality video).
  • A gradual but increasing emphasis on smaller downloadable titles offered via DSiWare.

Couple this with the fact that the DSi already has greatly improved specs (yes, the GPU details are uncertain but the CPU is certainly twice as fast and the RAM is 4x the original) and the announcement that there will eventually be DSi-only retail games, there simply is no rational place in their strategy for a DS2 of any sort at this time. Hold your breath at great risk to your health and well-being.

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Mainstreamguy

10. Posted:

Danny+August wrote:

Mainstreamguy wrote:

I'm sad i'm the only one realizing the Wii is nothing more than a stopgap
I mean, motion controls? You must be kidding me
And why are the graphics so bad? Do we live in the 60's or in the 21st century?
And Xbox360 and the PS3 are obviously only stopgaps either - I mean, who the hell wants good graphics?
And why are there no motion controls or something else revolutionary?
I'm still waiting for the real consoles, I'm sure they will be announced very soon
Will stick with my pong home console meanwhile...

You are delusional...

Yes, all my posts are 100% serious

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mastersworddude

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Mainstreamguy wrote:

I'm sad i'm the only one realizing the Wii is nothing more than a stopgap
I mean, motion controls? You must be kidding me
And why are the graphics so bad? Do we live in the 60's or in the 21st century?
And Xbox360 and the PS3 are obviously only stopgaps either - I mean, who the hell wants good graphics?
And why are there no motion controls or something else revolutionary?
I'm still waiting for the real consoles, I'm sure they will be announced very soon
Will stick with my pong home console meanwhile...

...? You say wii motion controls are pointless, then you wonder why PS3 and Xbox360 dont have it.

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Mainstreamguy

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ALERT!
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deadly_by_design

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I see it two ways.

1) The DSi isn't a big enough hardware improvement to really be a successor, so it is a stopgap of sorts. Everyone in Japan already owned a DS, so now they're buying DSis. Also, it's a way of expanding on the current DS without completely alienating all existing DS lite/phat owners.

2) With the economy being what it is, combined with graphics beginning to plateau, I don't think we'll see the standard hardware/console sequels continue. The big 3 have already hinted at delaying the process, if not changing it up entirely.

IMO, their best route would be to stick with backwards compatibility or XBL/PSN/WiiWare solutions for older titles. People still want to play them, after all, even after buying new systems.

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Adam

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Right, that is traditionally how handhelds work. Game Boy gave way to GB Pocket, which in turn became the GBC. Then we got the GBA, which was still very much a Game Boy, but also a new system at the same time. Still, that led to the SP, then the Micro. And this is ignoring Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player. The Game Boy has seen so many iterations of the same basic platform. I don't see why Nintendo should change a successful formula for the DS. Consumers are apparently more easily satisfied with portables.

As for your comments about home consoles, I hope that's true. I don't like having to buy a new one so often, and I don't think it's good for developers either.

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geek-master

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i dont want to have to keep on upgradeing my systimes like i did with the N64 then i bought the gamecube then the wii and then the ds-lite now the DSi. i want to save money by just getting firmware updates like we do on the wii :)
firmware by the way is the anser to never haveing to upgrade to a new systime ever again :D becuse internet brought firmware to the 21st centuary :D

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