@Mgalens honestly I’d recommend buying a Series S if you never had an Xbox before. The Xbox Series S has so many great games and unlike Nintendo with Switch respects legacy content.
Games from the OG Xbox onwards are playable (you can buy them not locked behind a subscription) and you have the freedom to build a great library to your hearts desire. It’s like the Wii was but now games are tied to your account so its really a one time purchase that carries forward to future consoles. There’s a lot of awesome XBLA titles available for purchase too, and Rare Replay, which has Rare’s XBLA titles packed in is a must have.
Between the stellar backwards compatibility and GamePass, the Series S is an amazing game console. Would highly recommend you check it out if the Switch’s paltry retro offerings aren’t suiting you. The only Rare games missing on Xbox are really only the Donkey Kong ones.
@Yosher okay genuinely want to know. When did the “extreme drop in quality” take place from a non fan perspective.
I’ve only played like two Pokémon games in the main series (FireRed and Platinum). They were both alright but too similar and nothing to really write home about.
How are Pokémon fans able to even differentiate between quality of each game when the games never fundamentally change in a meaningful way?
@ShadJV is Rusty Bucket Bay really that bad? I remember the Steam Engine room and the propeller jiggy being annoying but I wouldn’t say its my least favorite world (though definitely not my favorite).
I honestly thought Clanker’s Cavern was the worst, with Click Clock Wood being my favorite.
@Maximumbeans me personally, I’m not going to pirate their new games, it’s too much effort, and not buying gives them the same amount, but I just don’t want to support a company that takes every opportunity it can to spit in the face of the consumer.
I just think piracy is wrong when it comes to any company that isn’t Nintendo, but piracy of any Nintendo product is always morally correct. The Switch era of greed from Nintendo is insane.
@Orokosaki that doesn’t surprise me since Nintendo’s most ardent defenders don’t have a frame of reference with how normal companies treat their consumers with respect.
On Steam, PlayStation, Xbox, you can buy and keep legacy content for a fair price. Something not possible on Nintendo’s console. That’s where a lot of the complaints come from given how atrocious Nintendo is with their back catalogue.
Why is it immoral? Because you like the company?
I’d say normally piracy is immoral against any company not named Nintendo. Companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Sega do what they can to make their older games available for purchase on modern platforms, and the good faith effort means piracy of their products is immoral.
Piracy of Nintendo’s products, even new ones, is always morally correct since they are the greediest company in gaming and the last company deserving of your money.
@Maximumbeans nobody except Nintendo simps. I used to think piracy of new games was wrong, but I’m okay with people pirating all of Nintendo’s games due to their greed.
Nintendo is the last company deserving of your money.
Hey as long as you aren't a hypocrite, that's good.
I know the guy broke the law and all, but I don't think Nintendo's the good guy here. They do a lot to enable piracy.
A wise man once said "Piracy is a service problem, not a price problem".
Nintendo has failed to combat piracy which is why the mod scene for their consoles is so large. PlayStation and Xbox have much smaller mod scenes, and even then, when people want to hack those consoles, they put old Nintendo games on it.
Pulling an Adobe with classic games, making games limited time commodities for no good reason, and not transferring games between console generations are some good examples of why people are fed up with Nintendo.
Like, do you really think what Nintendo's doing is going to do anything to combat piracy?
Rather than making a service like GamePass where you can play games day one for free, or buy games at a discount, they add shovelware to their old emulators on NSO at an irregular basis.
What's going to be the option to play a Nintendo 64 game like, Star Fox 64 when the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS eShops shut down? Your only options will either be to buy aging hardware and a used copy whose prices will be jacked up well above their original retail prices by that point, or to rent it on Switch forever, $50 a year with no monthly options, where it probably won't even work correctly given how little Nintendo cares about their service.
What if I want to play Jak and Daxter? I can buy it on PS5. What if I want to Conker Live and Reloaded? I can buy it on Xbox.
What if I want to play Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? Pay over $300 for a used copy, and buy old hardware to do so with no guarantee of the quality. No way to buy and play it on modern hardware.
Like, when this is the case for every first party Nintendo game from any console of theirs before the Wii, do you really have to wonder why piracy is so rampant with Nintendo?
Yes, I know its illegal, and what this guy did is illegal. This is true and repeating that it's illegal isn't really going to do anything.
The reality is, whether you or Nintendo like it or not, piracy will always exist. You can't stomp it out, it's like a hydra. If you try to chop off a head, two more grow.
How do you minimize it? Valve, Sony, Microsoft, and Sega figured it out. Offer as many of your games as possible for a reasonable price and don't be scummy about it (Mario ROM Collection).
It's very hard for me and others to be sympathetic when Nintendo complains about piracy nonstop but does nothing to effectively fight it. It's not about "celebrating crime".
I can bet you if this guy was pirating indie games, then this comment section would be near unanimously against him. It's about the uncomfortable truth that Nintendo has been burning goodwill at an impressive rate during the Switch era. The meme "it's always morally correct to pirate Nintendo" was pretty much nonexistent during the Iwata era, but now it's a very true catchphrase because of how scummy Nintendo is during the Switch era.
Just wanted to give you the perspective of the people who aren't thrilled at the thought of Nintendo continuing their fruitless endeavors against piracy and why we're annoyed with their tyrannical attitude. Let's be honest, if any other company pulled close to the amount of cheap stunts Nintendo did during the Switch era, they'd be cancelled so fast it wouldn't even be funny lmao.
Sure, I'll explain how. And I'm not concerned with piracy, but rather when companies get too arrogant and greedy and need to be punished. Nintendo is just there.
As for taking away game ownership, Nintendo Switch Online. No way to buy first party NES, SNES, N64 games from Nintendo and after the Wii U and 3DS eShop shuts down, all legal methods of purchasing a copy of legacy content will exist only in scalped and aging hardware and dwindling copies of used physical games.
Nintendo fans cheer them on for taking away game ownership, and one could argue that taking away means of purchasing games is "PrOtEcTiNg ThEiR iP". No ownership means no stealing right? How would you like Nintendo's next console to lock all their games behind a subscription service of five year installments of $1,000? Nintendo fans seem ecstatic about this given how much they love it that Nintendo keeps forcing rentals for an increasing amount of games and systems.
@blindsquarel you know what's funny? If any other company did a fraction of what Nintendo's pulled during the Switch era, we'd never hear the end of it.
If any other company tried to pull an Adobe with their classic games, they'd get blasted as greedy and controlling until they changed their decision.
Nintendo does just that and their fans worship them.
@Maximumbeans It's hysterical, and I have to ask. Is it anyone other than Nintendo fans who hate emulations/roms? I never find any Sony or Microsoft fan who thinks piracy or emulation is the devil like Nintendo's fanbase does.
This level of slavish fawning and celebrating a company for taking away game ownership is very abnormal, ain't it?
@TKundNobody just because something is illegal doesn't mean its immoral.
You defending Nintendo taking away game ownership is why their next console will have all their games behind five year installments of $1,000. No option to buy anything separately.
But poor widdle billion dollar company Nintendo doesn't get to control their games with an iron fist.
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Re: Poll: Pokémon Scarlet Or Violet - Which Will You Choose?
@Yosher so it was the charm and personality of sprites, which didn’t translate super well to 3D models? I guess that makes sense.
Thanks for letting me know, and the GameCube games you mentioned, that’s 3D models and animations done right.
Re: Rare's Banjo-Kazooie Is Rumoured To Be Making A Comeback
@Mgalens honestly I’d recommend buying a Series S if you never had an Xbox before. The Xbox Series S has so many great games and unlike Nintendo with Switch respects legacy content.
Games from the OG Xbox onwards are playable (you can buy them not locked behind a subscription) and you have the freedom to build a great library to your hearts desire. It’s like the Wii was but now games are tied to your account so its really a one time purchase that carries forward to future consoles. There’s a lot of awesome XBLA titles available for purchase too, and Rare Replay, which has Rare’s XBLA titles packed in is a must have.
Between the stellar backwards compatibility and GamePass, the Series S is an amazing game console. Would highly recommend you check it out if the Switch’s paltry retro offerings aren’t suiting you. The only Rare games missing on Xbox are really only the Donkey Kong ones.
Re: Poll: Pokémon Scarlet Or Violet - Which Will You Choose?
@WallyWest I want to try a Pokémon game that is actually different. That’s why I liked the GameCube Pokémon titles.
Is Pokémon Legends a unique experience?
Re: Poll: Pokémon Scarlet Or Violet - Which Will You Choose?
@Yosher okay genuinely want to know. When did the “extreme drop in quality” take place from a non fan perspective.
I’ve only played like two Pokémon games in the main series (FireRed and Platinum). They were both alright but too similar and nothing to really write home about.
How are Pokémon fans able to even differentiate between quality of each game when the games never fundamentally change in a meaningful way?
Re: Rare's Banjo-Kazooie Is Rumoured To Be Making A Comeback
@ShadJV that’s fair. Could you imagine how beautiful a remake of this game would look though?
Especially Click Clock Wood. I thought it looked good even on N64, in a remake the level would be gorgeous.
A double pack remake for both Banjo games would be awesome.
Re: Feature: Temtem Dev On The Difficulties Of Bringing The Pokémon Rival To Switch
@WallyWest I don’t think that counts since it wasn’t advertised as a “Pokémon killer” like this game or SMT V were.
Re: Feature: Temtem Dev On The Difficulties Of Bringing The Pokémon Rival To Switch
@psyki probably not, heard a lot of hype died down for it. Maybe the new Digimon game might sell over a million though.
Re: Feature: Temtem Dev On The Difficulties Of Bringing The Pokémon Rival To Switch
@Anti-Matter Yo-Kai Watch seems to be the best and most competent Pokémon competitor.
Re: Feature: Temtem Dev On The Difficulties Of Bringing The Pokémon Rival To Switch
Not trying to be rude but has any “Pokémon killer” ever sold over a million copies?
I’m not really a Pokémon fan but just was curious lol.
Re: Rare's Banjo-Kazooie Is Rumoured To Be Making A Comeback
@ShadJV is Rusty Bucket Bay really that bad? I remember the Steam Engine room and the propeller jiggy being annoying but I wouldn’t say its my least favorite world (though definitely not my favorite).
I honestly thought Clanker’s Cavern was the worst, with Click Clock Wood being my favorite.
I played the XBLA version though.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES Service With Three More SP Titles
@Maximumbeans me personally, I’m not going to pirate their new games, it’s too much effort, and not buying gives them the same amount, but I just don’t want to support a company that takes every opportunity it can to spit in the face of the consumer.
I just think piracy is wrong when it comes to any company that isn’t Nintendo, but piracy of any Nintendo product is always morally correct. The Switch era of greed from Nintendo is insane.
Re: Gary Bowser Jail Term Intended To "Send A Message" To Other Switch Hackers
@Orokosaki that doesn’t surprise me since Nintendo’s most ardent defenders don’t have a frame of reference with how normal companies treat their consumers with respect.
On Steam, PlayStation, Xbox, you can buy and keep legacy content for a fair price. Something not possible on Nintendo’s console. That’s where a lot of the complaints come from given how atrocious Nintendo is with their back catalogue.
Why is it immoral? Because you like the company?
I’d say normally piracy is immoral against any company not named Nintendo. Companies like Sony, Microsoft, and Sega do what they can to make their older games available for purchase on modern platforms, and the good faith effort means piracy of their products is immoral.
Piracy of Nintendo’s products, even new ones, is always morally correct since they are the greediest company in gaming and the last company deserving of your money.
Just curious, what’s your opinion on Adobe?
Re: Gary Bowser Jail Term Intended To "Send A Message" To Other Switch Hackers
@Orokosaki okay first off, I doubt you’d be this in favor of “law and order” if it were Sony he was stealing from.
Second, everyone knows its illegal, but just because its illegal doesn’t make it immoral.
If you really care about understanding those who disagree with you just look at my other comment.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES Service With Three More SP Titles
@Maximumbeans nobody except Nintendo simps. I used to think piracy of new games was wrong, but I’m okay with people pirating all of Nintendo’s games due to their greed.
Nintendo is the last company deserving of your money.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES Service With Three More SP Titles
@TKundNobody I didn’t say that at all of course the Nintendo fanboy has to lie to prove his illogical points.
What I am saying, is why do you think Nintendo pulling an Adobe with classic games should be applauded?
Why should I buy this service when I could spend money on games that I am allowed to keep, like legacy games from Sony or Microsoft?
Re: Gary Bowser Jail Term Intended To "Send A Message" To Other Switch Hackers
Hey as long as you aren't a hypocrite, that's good.
I know the guy broke the law and all, but I don't think Nintendo's the good guy here. They do a lot to enable piracy.
A wise man once said "Piracy is a service problem, not a price problem".
Nintendo has failed to combat piracy which is why the mod scene for their consoles is so large. PlayStation and Xbox have much smaller mod scenes, and even then, when people want to hack those consoles, they put old Nintendo games on it.
Pulling an Adobe with classic games, making games limited time commodities for no good reason, and not transferring games between console generations are some good examples of why people are fed up with Nintendo.
Like, do you really think what Nintendo's doing is going to do anything to combat piracy?
Rather than making a service like GamePass where you can play games day one for free, or buy games at a discount, they add shovelware to their old emulators on NSO at an irregular basis.
What's going to be the option to play a Nintendo 64 game like, Star Fox 64 when the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS eShops shut down? Your only options will either be to buy aging hardware and a used copy whose prices will be jacked up well above their original retail prices by that point, or to rent it on Switch forever, $50 a year with no monthly options, where it probably won't even work correctly given how little Nintendo cares about their service.
What if I want to play Jak and Daxter? I can buy it on PS5. What if I want to Conker Live and Reloaded? I can buy it on Xbox.
What if I want to play Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? Pay over $300 for a used copy, and buy old hardware to do so with no guarantee of the quality. No way to buy and play it on modern hardware.
Like, when this is the case for every first party Nintendo game from any console of theirs before the Wii, do you really have to wonder why piracy is so rampant with Nintendo?
Yes, I know its illegal, and what this guy did is illegal. This is true and repeating that it's illegal isn't really going to do anything.
The reality is, whether you or Nintendo like it or not, piracy will always exist. You can't stomp it out, it's like a hydra. If you try to chop off a head, two more grow.
How do you minimize it? Valve, Sony, Microsoft, and Sega figured it out. Offer as many of your games as possible for a reasonable price and don't be scummy about it (Mario ROM Collection).
It's very hard for me and others to be sympathetic when Nintendo complains about piracy nonstop but does nothing to effectively fight it. It's not about "celebrating crime".
I can bet you if this guy was pirating indie games, then this comment section would be near unanimously against him. It's about the uncomfortable truth that Nintendo has been burning goodwill at an impressive rate during the Switch era. The meme "it's always morally correct to pirate Nintendo" was pretty much nonexistent during the Iwata era, but now it's a very true catchphrase because of how scummy Nintendo is during the Switch era.
Just wanted to give you the perspective of the people who aren't thrilled at the thought of Nintendo continuing their fruitless endeavors against piracy and why we're annoyed with their tyrannical attitude. Let's be honest, if any other company pulled close to the amount of cheap stunts Nintendo did during the Switch era, they'd be cancelled so fast it wouldn't even be funny lmao.
Re: Nintendo Admits It Released A New Model Of The Switch To Fight Piracy
Sure, I'll explain how. And I'm not concerned with piracy, but rather when companies get too arrogant and greedy and need to be punished. Nintendo is just there.
As for taking away game ownership, Nintendo Switch Online. No way to buy first party NES, SNES, N64 games from Nintendo and after the Wii U and 3DS eShop shuts down, all legal methods of purchasing a copy of legacy content will exist only in scalped and aging hardware and dwindling copies of used physical games.
Nintendo fans cheer them on for taking away game ownership, and one could argue that taking away means of purchasing games is "PrOtEcTiNg ThEiR iP". No ownership means no stealing right? How would you like Nintendo's next console to lock all their games behind a subscription service of five year installments of $1,000? Nintendo fans seem ecstatic about this given how much they love it that Nintendo keeps forcing rentals for an increasing amount of games and systems.
Re: Nintendo Admits It Released A New Model Of The Switch To Fight Piracy
@blindsquarel you know what's funny? If any other company did a fraction of what Nintendo's pulled during the Switch era, we'd never hear the end of it.
If any other company tried to pull an Adobe with their classic games, they'd get blasted as greedy and controlling until they changed their decision.
Nintendo does just that and their fans worship them.
Re: Nintendo Admits It Released A New Model Of The Switch To Fight Piracy
@Rika_Yoshitake How excited will you be when Nintendo's next console locks all their games behind a subscription of five year installments of $1,000?
I'm sure you love Adobe just as much.
Re: Nintendo Admits It Released A New Model Of The Switch To Fight Piracy
@TexanBanjo yup, piracy is good when it's targeting a company trying to axe game ownership.
Microsoft tried this and got ratiod so hard they did a complete 180 and are the best of the three at game preservation.
Nintendo tries to take away game ownership and their fans cheer them on.
Re: Gary Bowser Jail Term Intended To "Send A Message" To Other Switch Hackers
@Orokosaki I love it when people defend a company that would gladly round them up and shoot them for an extra dollar.
Judging by your comments, it really is true what they say about Nintendo fans.
"Nintendo could kill someone and their fans would just buy tickets".
Re: Gary Bowser Jail Term Intended To "Send A Message" To Other Switch Hackers
@Arkay okay, not trying to be rude, but if this guy was hacking PlayStation 5's would you be saying the same thing? Genuinely curious.
A lot of Nintendo fans love to be all gung ho about law and order, but when this stuff happens to Sony, not a peep.
Almost like they only care when it's Daddy Nintendo's bottom line at stake.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES Service With Three More SP Titles
@kingbk if a subscription service has to lock content to the subscription, then it's an objectively bad "service".
NSO does just that... when Sony and Microsoft allow individual purchases of their legacy content.
Wonder what NSO lovers think of Adobe? Surely they aren't just massive hypocrites who handwave away any and all flaws with Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES Service With Three More SP Titles
@Maximumbeans It's hysterical, and I have to ask. Is it anyone other than Nintendo fans who hate emulations/roms? I never find any Sony or Microsoft fan who thinks piracy or emulation is the devil like Nintendo's fanbase does.
This level of slavish fawning and celebrating a company for taking away game ownership is very abnormal, ain't it?
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online SNES Service With Three More SP Titles
@TKundNobody just because something is illegal doesn't mean its immoral.
You defending Nintendo taking away game ownership is why their next console will have all their games behind five year installments of $1,000. No option to buy anything separately.
But poor widdle billion dollar company Nintendo doesn't get to control their games with an iron fist.