Square Enix Confirms Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Runs At A "Stable" 30fps On Switch 2

Switch 2 is a brand new system; why not shoot for 60fps?! It’s perfectly capable of it now. Disappointed.

@Orwellian87 Shows how little you know of processing power required.

This is great news for people who haven’t played yet, too bad it’ll most likely end up on a key card.

Nintendo...forever doomed to mostly 30 FPS games....

I'm starting to think Nintendo really needs to make a program specifically for helping devs optimize the games being ported to it. Is the Switch 2 really not capable of 60fps for Remake Intergrade?

@Lightsiyd VII Remake was 30fps on PS4, and 60fps on PS5. Are you really expecting Switch 2 to hit 60fps with PS4-level hardware?

I expect most 3rd party games from last gen and current gen to run at 30fps. Switch 2 has capable hardware, but as long as devs are making games first and foremost for more powerful hardware like PS5 & Series X, Switch will get the short end of the stick every time.
As long as Nintendo gives us games at 60fps, I’ll be content. (I swear to god, if they make Animal Crossing 30fps again…)

Before someone brings it up inevitably like usual: Your not getting smooth 60 with this game on a Steam deck. S2 is like PS4.5 and a bit better than a Steam Deck as a point of reference.

If anyone was expecting similar level of experience when AAA devs want to milk out PS5 Pro level experiences with their modern releases then you are gonna be disappointed. Nintendo never “caught up” with the specs chasing race since what? GameCube? This same old song and dance happened with the S1 so no idea why people thought it would be suddenly different especially when portable play is a focus.

As long as their actual 1st parties are great quality releases like they did with both MKW and DKB + what we can already see with Metroid Prime 4 then 1st party wise it should be fine.

Ah, being 41 years old I've lived through the real "Console Wars" and generational leaps. History just repeats itself every time and I love seeing the reactions. Many get it in their heads the 'new thing' solves all problems of the 'old thing'. It doesn't. All I care about is: "Is the game fun?". If it is, let's go! If it sucks, then no amount of graphical enhancements can polish a turd. Just have fun!

@Orwellian87 Your post tells me that you don’t understand the difference in power between the Switch 2, PS4 and PS5.

I'll have to see it in motion, my eyes aren't great at telling the difference unless it is side by side. So I probably won't be bothered if it has a consistent frame rate that let's me have a fun experience

A stable fps sounds great! For me, 30 fps is fine as long as it's mostly stable and the gameplay is fun 😃.

I can only even tell the difference between 30 and 60 seeing them side-by-side, so long as it's stable I don't care.

What resolution is it running at?

@Wewewi I'm still looking forward to the Switch 2 version, and I don't mind nor care if it is not up with the PS5 in terms of framerate, so does that make me a loon?

@Wewewi For lots of people, the Switch might be their only console. And not everyone has a PC, or one that can handle modern games. So there will be plenty of people excited to play these games for the first time (or even first time on the go).

i trust digital foundry’s verdict of the game (since they are very critical) so im not worried at all! im glad its stable

I wish companies would do everything they can to get their games to 40fps on S2. It's such a great middle ground between visuals and performance IMO, 30 is just disappointing and archaic.

Really depends on the game for me re: 30 vs 60 FPS.

That said, surprisingly, I played through all of Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound on the Switch, a game where almost anyone would demand the smoothest highest FPS possible, but I got used to the 30FPS and didn't have any issue with it. Surprised even myself.

Anyway yes, stability first and foremost is important.

@Arawn93 I think technically they were in the lead for a bit with the Wii U, though if anything that just further proves your point. I still can't fathom why they were launching systems without a single flagship exclusive back then.

@Lightsiyd cpu constrained

@Ganner this is the way

30fps is plenty if it can hit that consistently. Even Cinema run at 24fps. There’s really no reason for more frames.

@LazyDaisy It’s looking like PS4 is a good benchmark for what Switch 2 can do. Some games seem to run better on Switch 2 (Cyberpunk), some run worse (Hitman), but it mainly comes down to optimization.

People need to stop asking for 60 FPS on the Switch 2. 40 is the new 60 ever since the Steam Deck made me aware of how great 40 FPS can look. Sounds a lot more achievable, too.

@Hanabi99 No reason? You sure?

This is such a non-discussion, product of the time.

@Rebusmind I think people should voice their opinion that they want 60fps games, so that maybe some developers will hear that and make it happen. That said, FF VII remake is a 30fps game on PS4 (and a beautiful game too), so I'd never expect it to run 60fps on Switch 2 unless they remade the whole game with major sacrifices to the visuals.

@Ganner I'm not far behind you in age. I remember that period of time in console history when a numbered Final Fantasy game on a Nintendo console was a laughable, asinine fever dream (outside of ports of older titles to portable consoles).

I remember a few short years ago when it was a huge deal just to be able to say that you could now own Final Fantasy VII on a Nintendo console, on a plastic and silicon card no less.

So I will gladly take FFVIIRI at a stable 30fps on a Nintendo device. Just give me the entire game on the card, please.

@KoopaTheGamer My only point is that 40 FPS is much more realistic than 60 and looks a lot better than 30. Most of the time 40 looks closer to 60 than 30.

30 fps isn't a big deal. At least it never bothers me, but I might be an old fossil in gaming years as I started gaming with NES. Remember those fps? You're character would just disappear on screen.

I'm just really curious to see if this will be completely on a card. This is the biggest title Square-enix is releasing for now on the switch 2, they should aim high, but I higly doubt it though. If it's fully on a physical card I might double dip.

This is sounding like a great port. The only way Square Enix can mess it up now is if it's on a Game-Key Card.

I don't care about fps I want a game that isn't a mess like some were on Switch 1. I'll play it "on the hybrid go"

@1UP-HUSKY like most switch 2 third party games it will be a key card...

@Lizuka you need to get your eyes checked...most people will be able to tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps..

There are big diminishing returns with higher fps, so 40 fps like others said would have been amazing. They mentioned the FF7 Rebirth might also come to Switch 2, right? I'm very curious (more like worried) how they'll get that to run in a 30 fps state. That game has way higher system requirements

Gameplay over frames.

@Wewewi got a gaming pc and a switch 2. I don't have time to do much gaming on my pc so the Switch 2 tends to be my main unit since I can play that anywhere I want

I just can't tell the difference between 30 & 60fps, so this doesn't matter to me. As long as the game runs well and load times aren't too egregious then it's a win. Sadly the game will almost certainly be a key-card because Square Enix sucks.

Hyped about this game.

People crying about those frames, have no clue lol. This version is the PS5 version. I bet all ps5 games will run like this.

I have a gaming pc where i can play everything on ultra. But now i am a dad and have little time left for pc gaming.
So i am happy that i can play these gems om the NS2 on the go. With games like this you wont notice it, as long as its a stable 30fps. Even Digital foundry was blown away by it. There are also some comparison videos of this game. A clean 30fps is good optimization. So if they can get all final Fantasy games running like this its a win.

@The-Chosen-one How do you know it's the PS5 Version when that ran at 60FPS?

@Whyarewestillhere

Intergrade is the ps5 version.

@Wewewi

Nah, Im gerting it for Switch 2. I wouldnt buy a PS5 for a single game, and you probably think that all gamers owns multiple current platforms. 30 or 60 fps doesn't make much of a difference to me. Being able to play it portable is a far bigger win in my book.

@The-Chosen-one That doesn't mean it's the PS5 Version when it's also releasing on Xbox.

As long as it's stable, I'm fine with it. The Switch 2 is a handheld console, first and foremost.

@Lizuka I feel sorry for you tbh.

@Anachronism exactly, WiiU is ignored but Nintendo was at the top of raw GPU power back in 2012 until PS4 launched at the end of 2013. Pikmin 3, an early WiiU title, demonstrated the system and Nintendo capabilities.

Switch 2 is not at the top but is capable enough, regardless Nintendo seems to be sticking with old engines that don't take full advantage of their own hardware, MKW and DK look fine but the system is capable of much more.

@Whyarewestillhere

Intergrade is the ps5 version that also releases on Xbox and NS2.

@HugoGED
WiiU was a beast. I truly loved that console.

@Omedru rebirth will be interesting when it comes to switch 2 since since it was built for the ps5. but that is for sometime in 2026..

I don’t really care much about frame rates but even I think Switch 2 games should at least be reaching 40fps!

@1UP-HUSKY frame rate slowdowns in 80s
arcade shmups kept me playing longer than if it was playing at 60 fps

Does this game have turn-based or real-time battles? If it's turn-based, then there's absolutely no need for it to be 60 fps.

Game Key Card? Then no

I could live with the fps. But no the key card, haha. Will probably get it any way tho when its 20eur or so

40fps is a complete game changer (provided you have a 120Hz TV of course). We need more games targetting it or offering a performance mode. I'm fine with a slightly lower internal resolution or blurrier shadows if it means I can get this sweet 10fps boost.

Funny how a lot of people ignore how the other handhelds could only go around 30-45fps but if Nintendo does it they riot. It's 30 on PS4. Why do we expect it to run at 60? S2 has better hardware than PS4, sure, but you can't honestly expect miracles from a handheld device. Though after seeing CP2077, 30fps is already a very good experience especially if there really is a 40fps mode for integrade.

This game already beat in ps4 and pc total 6 times maybe would buy this game after few years ( 30fps ) no problem !

They somehow succeeded in turning me off FF7 for good. I just can't stand seeing Cloud anymore. He was never THAT interesting to begin with. Nobody would care if he didn't have such a huge sword.

@Lightsiyd

Hate to break it to you but this game would also run at 30fps if Nintendo made it. FFVII Remake (especially the Intergrade version) is a way more visually complex game than anything Nintendo has ever made. That's not a knock against Nintendo, its just that they target more stylized looks that can thrive on simple tech. This game is using more high detail and realistic methods to achieve its stylized realism.

Also if it was as easy as just run a program on your game to optimize it, we would have it and it would be widespread. A lot of people seem to think optimizing a game is just pressing an "Optimize" button or lowering resolution. But the reality is that optimization could mean a lot of different things depending on the game and how it was made. It usually stems from inefficiencies in how things were made and there is no one-size-fits-all solution. These teams have hundreds of people and (for example) every coder could've written 50 functions that weren't as optimized as they could be. Because during development, especially early on, optimization isn't the goal. The goal is to get everything into the game so you can tell if it works and is fun to play. So when you get much later in the development process and you have to optimize, you just have to go through everything by hand and look for things you can improve which is a very manual and tedious process.

@Arawn93 Any excuse to cry with this lot. As for that Weewee dude, account set up to troll so any opinion from them is discarded instantly. Waste of space.

@Lightsiyd What, you mean like... [gulp] ... a devkit?

Nah, never gonna happen. Make far too much sense, that.

Don't worry, them padded out side quests are still going to look great at 30 fps.

@jsty3105 Hey; if you want a more expensive lesser version, have at it, mate. I'm not trying to spoil your fun; just saying that money could be put to better use. How many Switch 2 ports do you currently own? I thought they were universally shunned.

@Wewewi since my pc isn't portable I'd gladly buy Switch 2 games, would consider decent ports, especially time hungry RPGs.

Ports are only shunned by more vocal ppl online. Normal people buy them.

If I learnt anything from Welcome Tour it's that I can't tell the difference, that was like the hardest mini game ever

Day 1, double dipping as I own it on PS4 but Square Enix is showing love to Nintendo so they can get my money.

By the way the game is superb, looking forward to playing it again.

I'm too old to tell the difference. Or care. If you have these 3rd party ports elsewhere then good for you

@GoproGO agreed. Most of the time I only know how many fps a game has by going to gaming forums.

If it's a consistent 30, that's good enough fo me

@Drago201 @DennisLofgren @LazyDaisy Y'all are right, my comment was made in ignorance; apparently, the game just barely hits 60fps on the Z1 Extreme, so it's not realistic to expect it to be 60fps on Switch 2.

@jsty3105 Yeah, being super online can create the impression that no one is buying them, but if they really weren't then they wouldn't make them. Everyone was mad about Yakuza 0 being a port if you looked at comments but they still announced another new one for Switch 2

@AllBLK it's a mass market handheld pitted against home consoles. Of course it'll have compromises. Even the new Asus Rog Xbox Ally X has compromises.

I have played this game on ps5 after 5 hours I was bored found it overrated even final fantasy in general for me I like secret of evermore SNES RPGs way better but everyone for their own.happy gaming everyone from Sydney Australia 💚💚💚🦕🎮🕹️

@burninmylight I'm old enough to remember when every numbered final fantasy was always on a Nintendo system only.

For this game, I think stability is most important. It's likely a port of the PS4 version + scaled down Intergrade, and the PS4 version struggled to maintain a stable frame rate. That said, come on Square Enix. If you're gonna screw us, can you at least screw us with a full cart?

@AllBLK Saying it's struggling to run first party games is an exaggeration. MKW runs at rock-solid 60, and Bananza runs steady, just has some very slight drops when a lot goes on all at once. And I mean a lot. But they are not struggling in either case.

Sorry, I only play games at 8K 120FPS. Quality of the game doesn't matter as long as it meets my graphical expectations. Pass.

@Orwellian87 it’s a brand new hand held console that costs $450. Higher PC handhelds aren’t doing what you’re asking for $1k. They may hit 60fps, but at ridiculously low visual quality and at higher wattages. 30fps is fine, this isn’t even close to the same power as a PS5. Set your expectations correctly and you won’t be disappointed.

Somehow, I'm sure the stable 30fps in this game are going to look far better than the "stable 30fps" in Elden Ring lol

@Powerjunky mind your biz. Thanks.

Stable 30 fps in 2025 what a flex.

So, no release date? When do you stop leaving me hanging, Square Enix?

My expectations for a handheld is this is fine ? Might be some room for tinkering to keep fps stable in all these 3rd party ports. I think some are rushed out for launch window.