Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 3.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes

Or…you know…the update’s available right now…

@Shepdawg1 Nope, it isn't available yet. Just the patch notes.

@VoidofLight It most certainly is available. I’m playing it as I write this. And they changed the article title…

Wonder if this is the last major update.

@Shepdawg1 Ahh. I guess it just isn't out where I live or something. Still refuses to update :/

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This year is a joke for Pokemon Scarlet & Violet.

Mine is not updating either and I am in Florida.

It’s downloading now

It still isn't working. Started downloading, but it wouldn't actually do it.

One more lump of coal from Game Freak for all you naughty boys and girls.

I give it at least 3 hours before bug reports come in on how f'd up it is.

This is the worst DLC launch I've ever witnessed. The inability to even download the thing is amazing to me.

@VoidofLight they released a defective product, and people are begging for more while COMPLAINING about the next lashings taking too long. What a joke.

@Shepdawg1 you're an intrepid reporter. You should work for NL.

I’m excited for this. It’ll probably take a minute to download, but hey, this wouldn’t be the last time I waited a while for a big update today.

laughs in Warframe: Whispers in the Walls

Does it run even worse now, just like the last big update? Can't put it past them anymore.

From what I’ve seen and heard, this second DLC wave looks way better. I didn’t get the DLC yet because the Teal Mask looked pretty bad imo, and reviews didn’t seem much better.

I wish I could just get the second DLC for cheaper… $35 is way too steep for me to consider picking it up.

The big question I'm wondering is whether this update makes Teal Mask smoother, I gave up on that DLC in September because of the crashes but if it's smoother now I'll play both DLC after I've finished Pikmin 2.

@Altaria_97 You have to complete both the main game's story and Teal Mask story to unlock Indigo Disk.

@PikaPhantom The performance is still dogwash.

@MirrorFate2 That is all I wanted to know. With over $1.2US billion worth of revenue just counting physical sales ONLY ($60 per copy X 22 million sold) Game Freak & The Pokemon Company are too tight to fix the performance. Disgusting!

This is the only Pokémon game I actively regret buying. 5 patches later and they still refuse to fix the game's abysmal performance. Unbelievable.

-The difficulty of the Ogre Oustin’ minigame has been adjusted.

Thank god. Now let's hope they didn't actually make it harder.

@DiamondJim

23.33 million and the seventh best selling game on the Switch, but I do feel the performance issues are over exaggerated, the worst thing for me is the games strange frame rate cutting trick, which is ugly, but the way the game was made. Still enjoyed these games and have had lots of fun with them, as I am sure the vast majority of Pokemon fans have too.

@DiamondJim They act like they have a VERY small budget.

@johnvboy that's just so strange to me. MK was a favorite franchise, they went overboard w monetization and begging, so I let it go. Doom is my favorite series. If it released something as grossly incompetent as ScarViolet, I'd be out. Maybe it's the demographic, raised on gambling/blindpacks? I don't get it, but the series also has zero charm for me, so I wouldn't.

a year later and they still have not patched the main issues of the game..

@LikelySatan,

Thank you for your perfect example of blowing things out of all proportion. The game has issues, but on the whole is a very enjoyable mainline Pokemon adventure, and is far from the train wreck some are suggesting.

No framerate boost?

It was released over a year ago and everyone is still saying how bad performance is... It's clear it's never going to be fixed and GameFreak need to pass on the baton to another team, maybe one with bug open world experience. I sold my copy a week after it was released and it looks like I did the right thing. If they're selling people a game that's not even close to finishing, then why should I invest my time playing. Embarrassing when older games perform much better.

@johnvboy yup. I'm the only one that said anything about the performance. Totes.

I started playing The Teal Mask in preparation for this and forgot how dire the performance. It's actually an unfinished product and it's infuriating the game is still in this stage. Gamefreak really do not care about their product, it's embarrassing for one of the biggest gaming franchises in the world.

Guys, what's the point of complaining about these games? No one will listen and even if your cries miraculously reached anyone, nothing would change because Pokémon's formula of releasing only mediocre products clearly pays off.

Time for Incineroar to wrestle the entire VGC meta in submission, as usual XD

"We are aware that players may encounter issues that affect the games’ performance. [...] We take the feedback from players seriously and are working on improvements to the games."
— Nintendo, December 1, 2022

@LikelySatan,

Very little in terms of context or nuance, people on videogame forums are usually very vocal when it comes to something they do not like. There is no real evidence of a wider customer backlash against this game, or any other Pokemon Switch game, for that matter. Many will simply enjoy these games, totally unaware of any issues.

@Preposterous,

Your comment started off with some great advice, which was for people not to get to wound up about all of this, as it's totally out of their control... and of course they could just choose to vote with their wallets, and simply not buy the game.

But then you just had to slip into the old celebrating mediocrity line, as if the developers were somehow getting away with murder or something, when it could just be the vast majority of fans look for reasons to like and enjoy a game, rather than be hell bent on pointing things out they do not like.

Gamefreak should focus on improving the content there is already in the game first, instead of adding tons of new content (charging for it, of course) that will have the same issues.
I'd like to get this game, but I WON'T until Gamefreak works on it and delivers something up to standards.

Please people, stop buying their games until they release a quality product. If you keep buying these things like crazy, they'll never make Pokemon better...

@NielsNL They know it, of course they do, but they just laugh at us. Look how much this game is selling... It's just ridiculous.

Guys I think I'm being an idiot. I'm talking to Cyrano and he just says "Don't worry too much about prep-you'll be able to come back here pretty much anytime"

Like I can't start it, what am I doing wrong?

@johnvboy I'm sorry, but you're just projecting, since I'm completely indifferent to Gamefreak's approach at this point (if anything, I'm a bit envious they can put so little effort and still make so much money).
Plus, 'voting with your wallet' famously never worked with Pokémon. Fans will just be fans - finding excuses to tolerate mediocrity is part of the deal.

Here's a great advice for you specifically: Learn to live with the fact that not everyone is going to unconditionally like the thing you like. Just let it go.

@Preposterous,

I have no issues with people not liking these games, it's up to them, just pointing out it's not everybody, and it's nowhere near as bad as some point out.

I put about twenty minutes into it last night, although, I probably won't get a chance to properly dive into part 2 of the DLC, until the weekend gets here.

Haven't read all the comments but let's try address as many issues as I can

• 23% of the franchises income comes from the games. I think people really need to keep that mind. It would be like saying Marvel should stop making movies and focus on comics. It may be main source but it's not the thing making the most money
• No, it would take resources from Monolith Soft and the next thing people complain about how GF 'held back' the next Xenoblade
• Genius Soronity has 22 employees. Giving it to them would be silly. Also, Colleseum and XD reuse the models from Stadium.
• People have REALLY got to expect a new game every year. A lot of people say they want GF to take their time but maybe if content creators and fans can pack it in with BW3/BW Remakes/Legends 2/Let's Go Johto speculation every. dang. Pokemon Presents.
• People often encourage developers to have a healthy work environment but I don't think haranguing them constantly helps. Don't thinly veil it as 'constructive criticism'. It's not. it makes you look like a Karen. A TerraKaren as it were. No wonder Junichi Masuda and James Turner left the company because I'll tell you what, they got a lot of crap in the lead up to Sword/Shield.

@martynstuff,

Awesome post......and is really the definition of the "Bigger Picture".

I downloaded the update last night before bed, but I won't get a chance to try the DLC until later today. I'm not expecting any improvements of the performance, but I'm sure I'll still have some fun with the content.

@johnvboy yup. Pokemon fans will buy anything.

@LikelySatan,

Did you buy it?

I played Violet last year and while the performance is unforgivably bad (don't think any patch will change that), and it sucks a company with so much financial firepower put it out in that way, at the gameplay level it's the most fun I'd had on Pokémon since Black and White 2. Guessing DLC not worth it though? Probs too much in my backlog to go back to it anyways

Sad to see all the same haters show up to rag on Pokemon, but I won't let them ruin my mood! The DLC is all loaded up and ready to go!

Scarlet/Violet may have issues, but it's the most exciting mainline Pokemon game since ORAS introduced soaring! Coincidentally, ORAS was the last time we got to take to the skies and fly around the region! I can't wait to unlock proper flying and fly straight into Scarlet's genuinely beautiful, shimmering sunset vista.

@johnvboy hell to the no. Same way I know I won't like a turd sandwich without taking a bite. I smort like dat.

@LikelySatan,

Not sure why this bothers you all that much then.

@JohnnyMind,

Some will never see this, and most of them have never even played the game.

@Grumblevolcano Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the info.

@johnvboy I'm not sure. Fandoms are fascinating to me when it seems like almost a parasocial relationship.

@LikelySatan,

I find it facinating that people speand all this time and effort complaing about something they do not like, surely they would be better off playing and discussing games they love.

Not sure where the parasocial relationship comes into all of this, Gamefreak love making these games, and the vast majority love palying them.

@johnvboy I'd say the love doesn't show at all, for me. And people like to say what they think about stuff, especially art. I know this is not news. You're just being a silly goose.
Also...oof. Halloween, huh? Must be pretty rough lately.

@LikelySatan,

Never said you could not express your feelings on the matter, I simply do not agree with you, not a crime I am sure. I am just concerned you are doing yourself no good obsessing over such trivial things.

And of course getting personal kind of prooves my points, and says far more about you..... than me.

@johnvboy it's like talking to an addict who has become "treatment smart." Comments smart? I don't get the passive aggressive thing if you aren't at least funny.
And again, I'm really, really sorry for your loss. The Halloween series had about 1.5 good films. I know it gets hard, but you don't need to internalize that anger or identify with what you consume to the extent that you are harmed when people poke fun at it. You aren't Halloween. You are not Pokémon. You're Johnvwhatevs, darnit, and you are what you make, not what you consume. Now get out there, and make some passive aggressive comments!!!

@LikelySatan,

If you feel I am being passive aggressive towards you, then again that's no you not me, I guess you have just spent far too much time on social media, getting your own views fed back to you, so any opposing one seems like some sort of violence.

And so glad my avatar is living in your head... rent free, you must tell me what I owe you. With every post you expose your anger at trivial things, this place may not be te best for you Satan.

@johnvboy I don't do social media. It's below me. I'm Satan. Maybe.

@JohnnyMind
For me things can go either way with a game, sometimes there are ones where the positive aspects make it easier for me to overlook flaws where's other times the positive aspects can make the flaws even more noticeable to me.

unfortunately with S/V it was the latter situation, i really really wanted to love the game but the framerate issues for me made exploration just feel "off" and often its exploring a games world which i enjoy the most, like, i could see the good in the game which just made it all the more frustrating.

i do hope for the best in the series future though.

@LikelySatan,

Nothing is below satan, the fires of hell are very low indeed.

@JohnnyMind
I think for me i started finding framerate issues more noticeable when the HD era started (such as early ps3/360) not sure if its the increased visual clarity or that it was coming from the gamecube era when 60fps was pretty common but i remember thats when things started to become more noticable.

though on switch i have enjoyed quite a few games with performance issues in the past (dragon quest builders 2 is one of my most played switch games according to the list) it felt like there was something very specific about Pokémon S/V which just felt off to me, though i did hear there was a data-leak issue at launch which made things even worse until you reset the game, unsure if that was one of the bugs which was fixed though.

i am hoping that with the theoretical "switch 2" that more games will feature the choice between "performance" and "visual" modes since it felt like they started becoming more common in console games recently (some switch games have them like the atelier games)

@JohnnyMind
yeah from what i gather the data-leak issue isnt something that is guaranteed to happen but i remember hearing that some were encountering issues of the performance getting worse and needing to close the game to fix.

Pretty sure it was what i encountered the first time i played since while exploration did feel somewhat sluggish to me by the time i reached the first town it started to feel like wading through sludge, at the time i thought it was just the area but considering how bad things got it wouldn't surprise me if i encountered the bug.

i am hoping that the "switch 2" is backwards compatible since while its not going to be some magic bullet that suddenly makes games run at 60fps i do imagine it could smooth things out a bit similar to the new 3ds or playing ps4 games on ps5 (played the ps4 version of FFXIV on ps5 and it doesnt chug in more populated areas like it did on ps4)

apologies for the long rant but yeah i am definitely hoping for the best with the next game.