UK Charts: For Goodness Sake, Zelda: TOTK Is Number One Again

Did someone have any doubt though?

A very well deserved place, it's my GotY. And I don't think it's going to be beaten this year. Or this generation.

TotK back at #1, you love to see it. Pretty curious to see how overall sales are at now. Over 10M in its first three days, very well could be at 20M already or close to it.

Nice to see AEW do well. It was never going to slay Tears or FF16 but 3rd's still pretty good.

Completed it and don’t feel the need to go back. The grind in this game is terrible. BOTW just felt like a more fun game. The amount of times I’ve felt bored in this game is unreal.

Has anyone played the switch version of AEW? Keen to hear from real players if it's worth it or not.

FF16 is pretty but shallow af. Totk is a game for the ages.

Given TotK's momentum it feels like that game will be in 1st now every week until September with the exception of 1 week where Pikmin 4 ends up 1st.

I said last week that Tears of the Kingdom would return to the top of the charts within a week or two. After more than 150 hours of playtime, it’s become my favourite game of all time and deserves every last ounce of success that it gets. Long may it reign.

This will put some people's minds at ease now.

I suspect Zelda will remain top for a long time now, although I'd love to see Pikmin 4 take top spot. Also quite sad to see Master Detective Archives so low, been playing most of the weekend and it's an amazing game.

Infact it's even more dissapointing that story of seasons is in the top 10 but Master Detective Archives isn't.

Well yeah since most places are offering it at the normal, non inflated price.

@The_Pixel_King
I'm with you. TotK is the peak of the medium right now and very likely for a long time.

So this is how Zelda dies… with thunderous applause

@Jedge396 I’ve played it. It’s pretty good. A good old button basher. The performance is a bit choppy but it’s not bothered Me at all.
It’s great fun to play.

Tears fall — and seemingly also rise. Impressive staying power for a single platform game that doesn’t begin with Mario and end with Kart!

I'm not surprised Zelda has put itself above Final Fantasy again.

So I'm not exactly a huge fan of Final Fantasy (I've played some of the classic ones, but haven't really explored the series extensively)
and from the surface, looking at the game on websites here and there, Final Fantasy 16 doesn't look very appealing... like at all?

The world is extremely bleak and completely humourless, and the combat seems repetitive and extremely frequent. And the world exploration doesn't seem to have much more to it than just going from point A to point B whenever you have a sidequest that needs doing.

...Can someone who's more familiar with Final Fantasy let me know if there is actually an interesting game hiding underneath the surface? Like... what is "the appeal" of FF16?

...

I like Xenoblade, so I don't mind a huge world full of sidequests. But I don't know... in Xenoblade, on the gameplay side of things, there's such a sense of scale and progression, filling out the map, finding landmarks, finding materials, experimentation with your combat options, finding the overpowered "Unique Monsters"... and on the aesthetic side of things, the world is full of fantastical wonder and whimsy, and the characters have so much life and personality.

...Final Fantasy seems to be a similar kind of game in terms of its genre, but with the whimsy dialed down to 0%, and none of the interesting gameplay possibilities seem to be present either. ...
...Am I not giving it a fair chance? Is there something I'm missing? Perhaps the narrative is really amazing or something?

I don't have a PlayStation 5 so I can't try the game out for myself. But from everything I've seen, I just don't "get it" I suppose.

Any Final Fantasy fans here that could possibly shed some insight?

Of course we have to remember Nintendo games don’t count as competition to XBX and PS, so the top 40 is actually only a top 25.

I'm actually surprised...
And surprised about AWE!

Need another surprised for the hattrick.

For goodness sake

lol

At this point, I'm guessing, aside from Pikmin 4, TotK is probably gonna stay at the top for a while.

@Stamina_Wheel

I dont know why, but your comment made me laugh more than i should 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@EarthboundBenjy As an old school final fantasy fan, FF16 has no appeal to me at all and I will never purchase it.
It's an action game, it's not even an rpg.

And honestly, I don't know who they were trying to sell this to.
The final fantasy brand is huge but overall meaningless now. They will slap that name on anything.

@EarthboundBenjy
Check out the gamespot review. It comes with a video that might help you come to a decision.

@EarthboundBenjy you’re not missing out much if anything at all, FF16 is a derivative button masher, no imagination, just lots of cinematic and repetitive gameplay. I stopped playing day one and got myself a refund due to some package damage, which was handy. Already back on TOTK eleven though I’ve already clocked it! And I love Xenoblade, Square can learn a thing or two from
Monolith.

I still need to get back and finish Zelda eventually. However SF6 completely derailed my Zelda playthrough and now I got FF16 and then the new Trails is coming soon too.

Yeah I don't know if I will finish Zelda! It was fun for a while but once the honeymoon period with it ended I've just found it difficult to find the desire to play it again.

@Olliemar28 I think it auto corrected y'all's AEW.

TotK is better than I could have imagined. I'm having such a good time with it, and even after 60 hours, I feel like I'm just getting started.

@EarthboundBenjy I haven't played FF16. But it's funny, almost everything you like about Xenoblade (which I also really like), is what made old FF games great. FF7 for example was my first experience with the franchise (beside spin offs like Mystique Quest on Gameboy). And it had a serious Story, but a lot of humor inside. Lovely characters, not just shallow people with no personality. A big open world (of course not as pretty as Xenoblade, since it was PS1) to discover lots of things beside the main story (breeding Chocobos, hunting for Materia, find that overpowered unique enemies...).
The battle system invited for experiments with the Materia System (basically magic) and so much more... At least until FFX they followed this formula, so I loved this franchise from FF7 to FFX. Haven't played newer installment, yet... So yeah, actually Monolith learned from them, but seems like Square Enix forgot their own qualities and skills...

And all is good in the world

@EarthboundBenjy FFXVI really isn't an accurate representation of FF. It's not meant to be some grimdark gritty tolkien-fantasy where the Hobbits are removed because they're afraid anything light-hearted might distract from how brooding the main character is.

The older games were a lot closer to Xenoblade in that they had stakes, but they had a generally humourous and fun worlds and characters to explore between the serious plot-beats.

I used to be a fan of FF, FF1-13 and I still like them a lot. But I wouldn't have ever been a fan if it was trying to be whatever FFXVI is trying to make the series be, FFXV was already too far from what I wanted.

@Stamina_Wheel fine icon you have there!

Such a great game TOTK. I'm 185 hours in, just got all the items I need to cosplay around Hyrule as Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Happy days lol.

Nice to see RainCode chart. Honestly it’s a sleeper great game so far with minor issues. I question if the reviewer on this sit even played the whole thing before giving it a 7…

@smeggysmeg How so? I’ve seen a lot of people talk about it being grindy but I’ve never understood what parts they mean

@PlasmaticSnake
Hehe no worries. You need the Mystic Helm, Ember Trousers and Climbers Shirt. Then a quick trip to Hateno Dye Shop and you're all good. Mystic Helm is a bit of a slog as you have to give Koltin 46 Bubbul Gems in total to get it.

It certainly keeps me coming back. FF kinda turns me off with it's heavy-handed approach to...everything. Meanwhile TotK shows me something unexpected constantly.

Time to put on the cassette of KISS Smashes. Thrashes & Hits and fast forward it to Paul Stanley laying it down:

🎵 Oh, no! Tears are fall-iiiiiiing! 🎵

@PlasmaticSnake Yeah he def has a serious issue lol.

Not surprised. SE games don’t tend to have legs. Honestly expected Rains to do better [enjoying the game so far] , but then again it barely just came out so it’s not like it had the benefit of a full week.

@larryisaman - without saying too much most of the techniques from BOTW got nerfed horrendously e.g. Rupees methods, some materials (now require a 10 minute cool-down).

Those who are enjoying most likely used the dupe glitch to remove the horrendous grind.

I’m not trying to be too negative because I love all Zelda games and I really enjoyed the story elements and the start area (which just became irrelevant later on).

I kept playing because I refused to give up on a Zelda game.

nintendo chart numbers will always have a advantage over the ps due to majority of dales are physical while it is the opposite with the ps

@Mizar you comparing monolith to square-enix seriously? final fantasy16 in 6 days will outsell xenoblades3 for years xenoblades3 might never get to 3 million in sales even with a switch base of 120 million units..

i cant help but wonder the real dislike for final fantasy 16 is because it is not on either the switch or xbox..

@johnedwin of course it is, this is a Nintendo dedicated site so when people on here are talking about a playstation exclusive there's going to be a huge negative bias towards it. People interested in the game will be better off asking on pushsquare or by watching Reviews on YouTube, Personally it's a great game and an 88 on metacritic is pretty decent, those who've never played a final fantasy game before shouldn't even care if its nothing like the old games, and give it a chance as overall its a pretty damn good JRPG.

@UltimateOtaku91 @johnedwin No, it's just that it's a bad game. And we can actually say that here, whereas you get personally attacked at push square for doing so.

@johnedwin bruh quality over quantity. FF16 might sell more, but it pales to Xenoblade Chronicles 1 & 3 and X. And it’s base will grow, and grow

@Cordyceps How can a game with a 88 metacritic be a bad game? Unless you're saying everyone who reviewed the game are liars? So can you have no problem with those saying TOTK is a bad game?

Your comment history about FF16 is what I'm saying about getting a negative bias on sites that the game isn't for, people are better of reading reviews or watching YouTube reviews instead.

@johnedwin You got lost again? Here's the link: https://www.pushsquare.com/ Have fun. There's a massive clue to the content and bias here in this site's name.

That must be one hell of a drop for FF. Hate to say I told you so...so I won't but I will say to every developer out there, don't be a Bobby Kotick and put your games on Switch (unless Sony have paid you a lot not to or Microsoft have already bought you out)!

@UltimateOtaku91 Because it sells itself as a final fantasy when it clearly isn't.

@Mizar I agree Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is one of the best JRPG's to this day and hopefully will help the series grow, although I do wonder if their next game will be XC4 or a completely new series.

@Cordyceps That's like saying BoTW isn't a zelda game because it changed drastically to the zelda games before it? I don't disagree with you that it's not like the FF games before it but it's still has enough in the game to tell you're playing a FF game just like BoTW it still has those Zelda quirks wether its the enemies or the races etc

Also il ask this, if FF16 wasn't a final fantasy by name, would it still be a bad game to you.

I mean, the overall game play for Zelda has indeed changed, but it's got all the core DNA. You're still Link, saving Hyrule from Ganon with the power of the TriForce. There's a princess Zelda. But The Thing I always got from the series was they're kind of telling the same legend, It just differs based on who and where you are when you ask. I did that backwards but you know what I mean.

It did adopt the open world format to kind of evolve with the times but that's where I think the big difference is between franchises.

Zelda, even though it's on dated hardware, is at the front of the pack, giving people what they really want and tons of it. Some diehard fans are meh, but most love it.
FF has a VERY divided fanbase.

Even on the most top of the line hardware on the market right now, many reviews point out the dated design elements. (Shuffling arena to arena, empty open spaces, little reward for exploration) For me, for a while, i felt like final fantasy chases tails more than innovates and it resonates now.

But yes my score would soften if it wasn't attached to the franchise. I think everybody would have some kind of a different score if it wasn't attached to the franchise. Especially if they launched a new IP. There's always room for growth on the ground floor, but 16 entries deep? Just reboot it already. The Identity crisis extends far beyond Cloud at this point.

Sorry, something just exploded That wasn't supposed to so this is probably all over the place and only semi-coherent

Gotta go

@EarthboundBenjy "Am I not giving it a fair chance?"
Idk maybe
"I don't have a PlayStation 5"
Yea, you're not

@Mauzuri poor you. But it's ok because so many others liked TOTK so much likes me ❤

@smeggysmeg I think it comes down to how you play. I can see that point of view if you want to do certain things more immediately and need so many rupees or certain materials etc. and if you don’t have them to hand already it could take a while to amass what you require. I’ve never had that problem while playing since I’ve spent so much time just exploring and collecting stuff without much purpose to the point where rupees is never an issue since I have so many gems at hand most of the time and I usually have the materials I need unless they’re extremely rare. If I don’t have what I need and I can’t do the thing I want to, I don’t find it to be a big deal- I’ll just go find something else to do which isn’t a problem in a game this dense with objectives. I can see where it would be frustrating though.

So Nintendo don’t include digital sales…do the other companies? Or is this a physical only chart? If not then TOTK is absolutely smashing it!

I absolutely loved BOTW and was a little underwhelmed by TOTK to begin with (I’m
not into building stuff really) but as I have progressed I’m seeing the greatness in this game and am really enjoying it. Nintendo always does these big games without apologies and for that I love them even more

Doesn't surprise me that Gollum is now gone.

@johnedwin Meh. I think a good part of it is because a lot of people aren't fans of the direction FF went

After this latest bomb I fully expect SE to attempt a reorganization before this year's end.

@eltomo BOO!

@Cashews I wouldn't say its bombed just yet, in launch week alone it made close to £200 million in revenue, and 3 million sales on a console with 38 million users and obviously will continue to sell more over the next few weeks. Will also sell a load more once the games hits PC. Sqaure enix won't lose money from this game.

@GrailUK AHHHH!!!

Was hoping for a surprise party ☹️

@eltomo oh, oops.

@UltimateOtaku91 I imagine all of their hopes are on this game or not - knowing square they are. They said they were nervous about pre-order numbers. Now we know why.

Personally I'd call 50% of the numbers of the previous game - which is almost universally hated - a bomb.

Then again, maybe all media is in a bad rut. Movies are doing terrible. Those are going to fundamentally change soon (I think for the better). My hope is games don't just go into this remakes cycle. It feels like it's going that way and people are happy about it.

It's gonna settle in nicely in the top 10 for a very long time

@EarthboundBenjy Square Enix is having a moment where they've been looking at that Dark Souls money, and are saying 'we could do that...', which is why both FF16 and the next Dragon Quest are darker, edgier, more adult takes on the formula. And I'm not sure anyone actually wants this for either franchise?

@UltimateOtaku91 I'm not sure it will sell much more when it hits PC. FFVIIR sold about 5million on PS4. Then it went on PC and PS5 and then this year SE announced it sold "over 5million". So it sold sub 1million

I think the thing is now that a lot of other companies release on PC alongside their console versions. I don't think there's that much appetite for late ports. When big games like Elden Ring, SF6 and RE4Remake release simultaneously on console and PC why should PC gamers be excited for a late port of FFXVI after the hype already crumbled?

@Dr_Lugae I think PC gaming has grown a lot in popularity over the last few years. I have a few friends who started the last generation with a PS4 or Xbox who have since bought PCs and have no interest at all in a PS5 or Series S/X. I’m not sure how reflective that is of the landscape in general but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a common theme. I imagine people will be willing to wait for a PC version now while back in 2018 when XV came to PC I bet many PC owners who wanted that game already had a console to play it on for much cheaper. If anything there’ll be plenty of people waiting for the PC version willingly so they can play with maxed out settings etc.

And there you go, should have been a multi-platform release from the start. Maybe SE will learn something.

@Jedge396 I like the game. almost plays like wwf no mercy but better features

Go Zelda, go Zelda, go!

Seriously though TotK is a beast and rightfully so.

@FawfulsFury he made a general joke about the game. Yours is direct at him as an individual, way different….

But am I the only one disappointed?
I was looking forward to this game.
I loved BOTW and finished it 100% so I couldn't wait to play this one.
But they used the same map. And therefore all the exploratory part is devoid of surprises.
I like it, I'll finish it, but with a lot of disappointment

The bias in this article is laughable. FF16 is shallow trash, but TotK is not only copy-pasted to a large degree from BotW, but monotonous AF and no one in their right mind rates it a 10/10. It's literally a prime example of a "one and done" game