Retro Studios Wasn't The Only Dev Working On Metroid Prime Remastered

I also noticed this today. The credits are really really long. It's a really high effort remaster.

Compare that to the 4 guys at Retro who did the Metroid Prime Trilogy recompile for wii!

That would explain the hiring spree Retro went on lately. They needed so much support just for a remaster, so they must have been stretched thin. I know a lot of people left Retro last decade to work on Recore for Xbox One. Hopefully Prime 4 development is going smoothly. I'm not expecting it this year but a 2024 release would be nice.

Yet people try to make this like it’s some retro special and it justifies them being a top developer. 😂

Makes sense why they’ve been hiring so much, and also speaks to the quality of this remaster. Had a lot of really talented studios behind it!

@Qwertyninty being able to identify and notify you need help for particular jobs can actually be a top quality in life.

And yes, Retro is a top developer. Did you play any of their previous releases that justifies just that?

I got my physical copy ordered.

I'll be playing this one in a couple weekends after it arrives, reliving the good old days. 😊

@Aurumonado That’s so nice to hear! I can’t wait to get this at some point,

@Friendly the dk games were good based on rares foundation. Never been a fan of 3D metroid. Will be interesting what happens with MP4 and if it can hold up to modern standards.

$40 is too much for just the first game

@stevep It’s an extremely high-quality remaster. $40 for one of the best games of all time, and a relatively longer one at that, seems more than fair to me

@stevep Compared to $60 for Skyward Sword, which didn't have a fraction of the refurbishing done to it compared to Metroid, $40 is fair enough.

Surprised that not many people mention it but. So many quality cooks in the kitchen, yet quite a mess of camera controls in the menu.

@stevep Nah, $50 CAD is fair for the amount of effort that went into this remaster imo.

I hope that this means the same developers can work on remastering Echoes and Corruption while Retro works on Prime 4.

@PoeTheLizard Skyward Sword’s control scheme had to be redone. If they just touched it up, the game would’ve been motion control only for one.

@RubyCarbuncle I'm sure they could've made barebones remaster of the whole trilogy by just increasing the resolution and touching up some textures, and asking 60€ for it. But I'm glad they didn't. The amount of work put into the Metroid Prime Remaster was worth it. I'm just glad that the game doesn't cost 60€, because 40€ is a very reasonable price for the game.

That said, I wonder if the rest of the games will get the same treatment. It would require a lot of work to remaster those games in the same way.

@KoopaTheGamer There's one minor concern I have with the game:

Unlockables.

Namely speaking, the likes of the Fusion Suit, or some similar unlockables such as other difficulty modes.

@Ade117 Retro has done a ton of hiring for Metroid Prime 4 so is probably better off now. Also, I can't imagine Armature is a very attractive destination now. Seems like that company has only produced mediocre games and ports.

I’d be happy if they would like to port killer instinct next.

At the reveal, I felt it looked a bit cartoony, and thought the enemies were a little "cutified", but then I did a side-by-side comparison with the original and realised the enemy models are very similar, but the low resolution in the old game made them "jaggier" and less round.

@RubyCarbuncle I am with you. Ok, it's a fantastic remastered-port but we have already paid it for GameCube and Wii (Trilogy), so this price for us it's somehow not very friendly. For newcomers, it's great! It's not a complete remake and if we have to pay all the three games in the future, that are almost 2 decades old, it would be a lot of money. And then what? An HD trilogy package to buy it again? I really want to buy it but I will wait for a price drop or used copy.

@RubyCarbuncle I think you need to look at the Xbox and PS5 remasters or upgraded games most of them are $70. Same price as a new game. I thinking that is why everyone is not upset about the price point of this game. Just my thoughts

@RubyCarbuncle I'm not repeating myself or bashing anyone. I said my thing once and tried to have a nice conversation.

We all criticize Nintendo when they do something wrong. I think it's just fair that we also give them credit when they do something right.

@Ade117 games are always released strategically. prime is released this year to gear people up for the fourth release,. probably planned for late year. don't be surprised if you hear a new baten katos is in the works either.

@stevep Sony charges 70$ for less effort and doesn't even make new textures.
Metroid Prime have new textures everywhere and is why it took years, and also why MP 2 and 3 isn't included as it would have taken several more years before they could release it.

This is closer to a remake than a remaster.

@KayFiOS Amen! After seeing the amazing work that was done on Metroid Prime Remastered, I sincerely hope they bring us remasters of the rest of the trilogy. It would be amazing to be able to play them all before Metroid Prime 4 releases.

People complain about $70 games and $60 games.....now we have a great remaster at $40 and that STILL isn't good enough?
I don't even know what to say anymore, you complainers literally will never be satisfied.

@KoopaTheGamer Yeah. 40$ is a fair price considering over 10 studios is credited, and they spent years on it.

First time Nintendo weren't greedy since Switch launched.

I didn't even think Retro were involved other than as advisors. I thought it was completely done by a smaller Nintendo in-house studio like Nintendo software technology.

@Friendly In that same spirit, Retro themselves act as a support studio for Nintendo at times. Utilising the best assets available is indeed part of being a top developer 😊

Is Metroid Forever 4 still in development? I haven't seen anything on it since the teaser or so many years ago.

@stevep that’s a bummer, considering how many people worked on it and they should be deserved to get paid for their time and effort.

I think Metroid Prime 4 still might make a switch appearance, depends when switch 2 is released.

I can’t see Metroid Prime 4 being a new console system seller. Therefore it would shift more sales on the Switch with 120 million plus user base.

I have a feeling like much like how Wind Waker HD was so the Zelda team could practice on HD consoles, Prime Remaster was a testbed for the devs at Retro. I mean a lot of the original dev team has moved on and while they hired a lot of pros from other studios they needed a place for the team to cut their teeth again at a 3D Metroidvania.

@Ventilator I mean Trilogy was a similar price when it came out... but at the same time we have to consider that Prime Trilogy was not that much of an overhaul of either Prime 1 or 2. They implemented a new control scheme, but that is not even close to the undertaking Prime Remaster was. That is like being upset that Zelda OoT 3D did not include Majora's Mask as well in a single package as the Zelda Collection on the Cube had both. It's apples to oranges.

@RubyCarbuncle While I understand the sentiment it is apples to oranges to compare the Prime Trilogy release to Prime Remaster. One is a game completely ported to a new console with new textures, lighting engine, models, and a multitude of new control options. I'd agree if this was like Skyward Sword HD where the only real difference was some control tweaks and some spit shine on the textures. This really is a completely different beast. When discussing price we need to compare this to other full remasters on Wii U and Switch and it is cheaper than all the Zelda remasters (Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Link's Awakening), Xenoblade Definitive Edition, Crisis Core Reunion, Final Fantasy XII Zodiac, Shin Megami Tensei 3 and other similar remasters. This is a far fairer price.

I'm not saying it's not okay to be disappointed, but this is a rather quality remaster at a very reasonable price point.

@stevep

Yet apparently 50 dollars was perfectly reasonable in 2002 when it originally released. Funny how a games worth decreases in value the older it gets. Can't wait until someone in a few years thinks Metroid prime 4 should be dirt cheap once it's a few years old.

There was a ton of outsourcing for the art, but it seems Retro handled the actual programming for the remaster.

@Wexter Yeah. It were different times back then and the mega budgets on AAA games today made companies looking more at the costs. Many expensive games failed on sales in general.

Skyward Sword price vs Metroid Prime doesn't make sense.
There is years of work behind Metroid Prime, while a few months at best on Skyward Sword. And yet Metroid Prime costs 20$ less.
I heard Skyward Sword sales were bad, and could be why they dropped the price on Metroid.

The video comparisons of Prime shows the difference good, but the difference is even bigger if you ran it on 2 TV's at the same place. 480p vs 1080p with new textures on top of it.

YouTube also have highly compressed videos, so colors won't be as good as running it natively on TV.

Anyways. I bought Metroid Prime Trilogy on Wii U on sale on eShop for only 8$. Yes, Nintendo sold it this cheap digitally on sale. Full price were 20$ i think. It were just a straight Wii port at 480p or 576p even when they could have ran at 1080p on Wii U.
20$ for all 3 explains why they did nothing with the releases. If they upgraded the games, they would have costed triple.

Prices in general were low on 1st party Nintendo games on Wii U, because they wanted to push more consoles.

@Wexter Good point on the other post.

Since they had to scrap Metroid Prime 4 once, they probably needed more people who understand Metroid to make MP 4.
Doing a Metroid Prime remaster gives a good insight at how Metroid should be.
When they make new textures for the whole game, they are also forced to see everything in the game.

Makes me wonder all the more if we're even going to see MP 2 or 3 any time soon if ever Oo

@RubyCarbuncle,

This game is not aimed at the fans, or the 3 million or so gamers that bought the cube original, the two sequels sold even lower numbers.

This remaster is a way of putting the Metroid prime brand out there, and most Switch owners would have never played any of these games, I personally have only played the third one.

@Ventilator
I agree, was my thinking.
By redoing a Game gives the Devs a good Teaching about the Originals and how to go onward on that.

@StarPoint
I think it is a Matter of Taste, i personally think there are many much better first Person Shooters out there.
But i am coming from the PC and i also not a Fan of Halo.

@Azuris Yeah. Zool Remastered released in 2021 were also made by new interns at SUMO Digital (Gremlin Interactive), before they started to develop new games. The sub developer is "Secret Mode".
For some reason Zool is still exclusive on PC. I bought it on day 1 to support them like so many others.