Switch Online Surpasses 32 Million Subs, Nintendo Says It Will Continue To "Improve And Expand" Expansion Pack Tier

And only 10,000 people play Mario Golf each month. I'm earning the unlock each month in just a couple rounds of play.

You’re getting hosed if you’re in it just for the old console games, and Nintendo knows that. They just know there’s enough subs pairing it with DLC. But some folks gonna feel a bit different when Nintendo asks for that premium again next year and every year after

Subscriber, yes. Expansion Pass, no.
If the model becomes a 30 dollar yearly bump every time two new retro consoles are added, it could get a bit ridiculous fast.
Funds aren't an issue, but supporting this kind of pricing is.
If I didn't already have an N64 and Genesis, I may feel differently

As they should

A majority of those new subscribers are probably Animal Crossing: New Horizons players and were just in to experience the Happy Home Paradise DLC for the game.

The whole online experience from Nintendo only comes in at $4.16 a month. For the convenience of all these games I got that.

Also Nintendo has failed the base NSO with respect to the NES in particular. But that’s Nintendo and their back catalogue, they’ll always leave u hanging, waiting on that next drip drop

@FredsBodyDouble where did you get that number from?

Hopefully that revenue goes into making the Online better. I subbed but I probably won’t next year unless there’s more.

32 million, not bad numbers! Keep growing the service!

I had my Switch since 2019 and I have never subscribed to NSO or NSO+ Expansion Pack

Hey Nintendo, why not just make the basic online experience function properly with stuff like dedicated servers and integrated voice chat (that doesn't require an additional phone app). Games that DON'T require u to pay on Switch like Dauntless, Paladins and Sky all do online a million times better than your pay required "service".

32 million subscribers?

Is it any wonder that Nintendo have no incentive to improve?

Admittedly, I wouldn't mind subscribing to both NSO + expansion via a family membership, but that of course would require seven other people to foot the bill, and it just seems like too much of a headache expecting everyone to honour their end of the bargain.

@Silly_G
And of course, they purposefully design some games to require such an abomination. Splatoon 2 barely had any content and extracting videos from Smash is virtually impossible without a miceoSD.

Matches Sony's numbers too, where around 35-40% of the install base is subscribed to the online service.

I'm here to read the comments to feel shamed for choosing how I want to spend my hard earned money. Woo me.

@Varkster I got the expansion pass too. I just ignore them.

@FredsBodyDouble ppl missing out!

@Faucet
For just the price of a cup of a coffee a month, you can adopt an Expansion Pack subscription.

Please, consider opening your hearts and wallets for the truly greedy.

@Varkster probably all of us here on this fan blog are here because Nintendo is eating our wallets, our time and huge swaths of our attention, whether sub’d to NSO (not me) or we’ve just bought our third personal Switch console (me). We all shamed

@Varkster
What you fail to understand is your decision only leads Nintendo to keep up their shameful practices. But as long as you get yours I guess.

Once I get wii and GBA then the 60$ will be worth it, as of now, I'm staying with my old sub.

@the4seer You do realize that those numbers are for the base version? The expansion pass apparently isn't doing well enough for them to publicly share the numbers, which usually means it's at the very least performing below expectations.

@the4seer
Wait you actually believe Nintendo cares about your interests and not the $$$?

@Gbdub209 @FredsBodyDouble i am looking forward to N64 Mario Golf!

I’m going to wait. If they offer more systems and games I’ll consider it. As soon as there is another increase im permanently out

Yeah right, until they fix the broken emulation...no thanks

Have had NSO since it launched, got the EXP the day it launched. Have had no issues with the cost. Sure, noticed some issues during N64 emulation, but nothing game-breaking, especially since I'm not some idiotic speed-runner. Give me the Wii version of the emulation, and that will eliminate my only complaint with the service. Happy overall.

If the expansion pack is their idea of "improvement" then yeah I'm good

@HungryHungryHomer if someone sub to the service it means that it's worth for them. So that argument has really no bearing on their decisions.

I did and I don't see why I should feel bad for people who don't.
Nintendo offer a service and you can choose to either accept it and pay, or not.
Is that simple. And people shouldn't be so entitled to tell others how to spend their money.

Yeah, I'd love to see some of those improvements, but until then, no thanks. I'll stick with the SNES games.

It's going to take a pretty massive improvement to fix the Expansion Pack. Like, adding GB, GBC, GBA, and GC for free. But of course they won't do that (or at least not anytime soon), they clearly consider their online and back catalogue an afterthought given how painfully slow they've been in making any sort of improvements to NSO.

I subscribed normal NSO $20 just for Online play.

@NinChocolate Yeah I agree. To me it's a no brainer to get the Expansion Pack year one. As long as you already a Nintendo Online subscriber, you will not be paying $50 dollars for the service since it's prorated. For example, my cost was just $35. However, unless we get a free game or two, like Tetris 99, or some other DLC, I won't be getting again next year.

B..b..b.b..but the video has so many dislikes! How are there so many users! I think this is finally the time in which people realize YouTube dislikes don’t matter

@Slinkoy1
That’s total users counting the original service as the article states “Unfortunately, it hasn't shared any standalone figures of 'Expansion Pack' subscribers, and may never.” we’ll never know the actual impact this has on subscription however if we see some genuine improvements made to their N64 emulation it will mostly likely
happen because of the negative response they received.

@HungryHungryHomer So that means I should boycott and stop buying a service that I personally think is worth my money? Just because others aren't happy with it doesn't mean I don't have to be. This is a very strange gang logic where everybody thinks that they're entitled to others' input. I don't know anybody on this site personally and could honestly not give a single f*** about anybody here on that level. I'm not going to not buy something I like to make others happy.

You didn't think it was worth it, you didn't pay for it. I thought it was a good investment for me and I did. Why should anything else be expected from me?

Looking at the big picture and the entire games industry as a whole, Nintendo is one of the lesser evils out there. Their practices can be hit or miss but in the end they still provide quality on a level that is very difficult to match for anybody else. If we were talking about other companies I'd give you a pass but honestly Nintendo is one of the better companies with genuinely good values left.

You wanna boycott a company that does so many things right, good on you, but I think you should divert your attention to other companies much worse that are rapidly affecting the industry who are not Nintendo. Nintendo gets so much hate for every "miss" in their services it's so misguided and toxic. Sony could be starving children in their basements developing a new Naughty Dog game and we would forget it within days, but Nintendo does an optional service where people disagree with the pricing and we will yell about it for the coming months.

One last thing to add: I firmly believe that this vocal minority online "boycotting" Nintendo isn't going to change a thing. They're very firm with their decisions and it's highly unlikely they will ever adjust the price of the current online. They would add more content, sure, but not lower the price.

Going forward, we will continue to improve and expand both Nintendo Switch Online and Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack

Well that won't be hard.
😜

@Slinkoy1 try telling Nintendo that "dislikes don't matter". They've reuploaded exactly the same video on multiple occasions just to remove them.

When they fix the emulation and Banjo comes out I will probably cave and resubscribe, until then, no thank you

The current £20/£30 yearly plan lacks value let alone the expansion pack having poor value. Especially for those that have been paying for it for the past 3 and a bit years.

Somehow two (low tier) NES games every 6mths doesn't cut it.

People are talking about it.
They've done a poor emulation and high price so that people and the media are going on and on and on and on about it so that people subscribe to see if its true, watch videos, click links to read about it...
Then when they fix the issues and add Goldeneye in March next year they'll look like heroes and all will be forgiven.
Clever Nintendo, now take my money.
Personally enjoying playing OoT again, regardless.

Obviously Nintendo isn't listening to the fans for what the really want....give us virtual boy on switch! Complete with the brain-damaging helmet!

@Varkster,

Yes you can't buy a product you feel is good value, just because others on this site feel it's not.

@JonEnumber5 same here.
Just completed everything yesterday and had a ton of fun with it; honestly if people online didn't pass the last 2 weeks criticizing the input lag and the lack of fog I wouldn't have notice a thing.

@GoldenSunRM I've not noticed the input lag at all and I've heard some people say it's unplayable...
Just on the Shadow Temple now, as I said enjoying it!

Let me get this straight. On top of the more than 100 games already on the Nintendo switch online, we can also play genesis games and 64 games, including Ocarina and Mario 64!! Mario golf 64, my favorite game of all times, is rumored to be arriving (finally, my prayers have been answered). Not to mention all of the internet benefits and animal crossing jazz that comes with the NSO cost. Don’t forget the brigade of even more games. All of this for the price of one single game. Why would someone get angry over this? Would they be throwing a similar temper tantrum if ocarina and Mario 64 were on sale for $30 each. Oh well. Cry me a River as I conquer the Forest Temple!

@Gwynbleidd with more than 90 million Switches sold I can believe it.

@Gwynbleidd so you wouldn’t pay $60 for ocarina plus more than one hundred other games, but you would pay 30 for ocarina alone.

I feel like my comment from the other day fits well here:

"...we are no longer in the Wii U era where Nintendo needed to hold on to what customers they had. Not to mention, it wouldn't surprise me if more people joined groups for cheaper subscriptions; Nintendo won't care, they will still make more money.

I have long since accepted that Nintendo will never go back to free online or a VC service where you can buy and keep the games. Nonetheless, I have remained unsubscribed for the past few weeks and honestly? I am not missing the service."

Who knows, maybe this number will drop in the next few months as the expansion pass was only really announced towards the end of this financial period, or maybe the uptake of the expansion pass isn't as high as they like so despite having 32 million subs, they are all paying the lower tier. Maybe Nintendo will change the approach and actually improve the service.

Maybe, maybe, maybe...

@Gwynbleidd I guess this is just a difference of opinion. I’d much prefer the ability to play all of these games, including some of the best of all times, for $60. So now if you’d pay $30 for ocarina alone. Would you pay another $30 for everything else on NSO?

You know... I was going to get it, I still might, but understanding that only I will be able to use the Happy Homes DLC and not my kids, unless I buy it, kind of defeats the "bonus" feeling of the DLC being available.

Wonder how the expansion will fair. The base NSO is much cheaper than the competition but it is still well off PS Plus and Xbox Live numbers. The expansion bringing it to about the same price as them, I can't see it doing nearly as good.

I subscribed to the expansion pack day one; just try and stop me, nerds! I'm ruining it for everyone mwahahaha

@Gwynbleidd Fascinating!! So you’d pay significantly more for the games you want individually but certainly not $60 for all the games together. I must disagree with that.

I paid $20 once with expectations. Those expectations were not met. I'm not paying again. I'll buy Nintendo's games but not Nintendo's 'services'.

@Gwynbleidd By definition of the word, this is a disagreement. If holding on to Yoshi 64 forever is your main gripe, you should have held onto the 64 console and game. I think spending $60 a year to “rent” more than 100 cool games for several years isn’t so bad. Apparently, we disagree on this fact.

Good for Nintendo I'm glad it's doing well and bashing the people who whin go Nintendo

@ModdedInkling What do you mean, “purposely design games...”. You mean online multiplayer?

I guess they did that on purpose lol

@Spiders
I meant the fact that they barely have any offline content. You buy a game, but having to pay extra money just to play most of it is pretty scummy.

All this discussion about the value of NSO + Expansion Pack is missing the elephant in the room: it’s objectively worse than what we already had, Virtual Console.

I’m a couple of cables away from playing all the N64 games and Genesis games I care about playing, and it’s very hard to stomach the idea that a) paying for them again is no guarantee of playing them on any future console, and b) I’m getting a worse version than I already have.

If anyone thinks it’s worth it now to them, that’s great, but I think we all have to come to grips with this current situation being objectively worse than what was on offer in the past when talking about it.

I’m as big a Nintendo fanboy as anybody, but the Defense Force is firing blanks.

@mrchills
And losing access to them due to the check in requirement is ok? With VC you could buy what you wanted and not have any excess garbage.

Still no plans of subscribing any time soon. You know, make something like Smash actually playable online and, wow, how about adding to the game library every month? Until then, nu uh.

@sleepinglion common sense says it won't be higher then xbox or sony.60 max.unless they do what xbox does for game pass and charge 60 every 6 months. And Xbox pulls games off of its game pass all the time

@Spiders I don't see how it's objectively worse.

If Nintendo were to sell the N64 games alone, it would be for 10€ each.
Now, for 20€ (I already had the base service and in Europe is 40€ for base + Expansion) I got to play every single N64 game that it's on the service.

I personally would have bought:
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Banjo-Kazooie
F-Zero X
Mario Kart 64
Yoshi Story
Mario Golf

10€ each is 70€.

I'm literally paying 20 for something that otherwise would costs me 70.

And this is just if we count the games that are already on the service or announced.
Surely they're gonna add Banjo-Tooie, DK64 and other games, wich I would also buy

It needs a complete overhaul to even consider justifying the price. How 32 million people pay for a broken service that can't even do what the Dreamcast did back on dial-up internet is just embarrassing. The whole service is a waste of money.

@Ryu_Niiyama Gamepass has 30 million subscribers, Nintendo's numbers are excellent numbers.

@Edu23XWiiU Nice! I hadn’t checked gamepass numbers recently (also a subscriber). I love that both services fill different needs for me. Gamepass is my rental/trial service (also the disk drive on my xbone died and I don’t need a series x yet because of gamepass) and NSO is my online access and retro service.

I have to wonder how many people that griped about the price were right there at the front of the line to pay for this expansion. I wish there had been, idk, more tiers available? I don't play Animal Crossing so "including" the DLC means nothing and Genesis games are so readily available that it just isn't a selling point for me. I'm dying to replay Paper Mario and Pokemon Snap but I'm in no hurry to pay that $50.

@Gwynbleidd because Nintendo probably thought that selling them through an online subscription would have been better for them (I don't remember exaclty where, but I read that the sales of the games on the Virtual Console were much worse than people think). So instead of selling the same games for the fifth time, they tried a different approach.

And I'm not saying this to defend them, I just honestly don't understand where all this negativity is coming from.

Nintendo it's not my friend, it's just a company that offer me a service. If I don't want what they propose me, I just don't pay. If you simply want to play those games you have plenty of alternative to the Expansion Pass so it's not like Nintendo have all these games hostages or something.

@RGB87 this is something I can agree with.
I personally have no interest in the Genesis games, so it bothers me that I basically have to pay more for something I'm not gonna ever use.

I imagine a Game Boy and/or GBA channel are inevitable. Maybe Master System and/or Game Gear as well. But that's the extent I can fathom the service expanding beyond what it is. Like MAYBE Sega Saturn games could be added too. But I don't see GameCube, Wii, or Dreamcast happening. I'd love to see other companies beyond Sega, like the Turbografx16, MSX, or Neo Geo, but those would probably have to come with another price increase and with the backlash already seen for the expansion pass price increase, I really don't see this happening either, despite how much I'd love to see it.

@Gwynbleidd There's 32 million subscribed to NSO, not to NSO + Expansion Pack.

I'm a big fan of the Switch but not too far from being five years into the console's life we still don't have some basic features like themes, Netflix or other video services that other modern platforms and even the original Wii had, and even the avatar section isn't updated. On top of that, I look at what Nintendo has done with NES and SNES online and it's difficult to believe it will really improve the expansion pack that much.

@Silly_G TBH the “vote with your dollar” stuff has rarely applied to Nintendo - if a bunch of subscriptions dropped they’d just end the service, not fix it. Very take it or leave it, most of the time.

@Gamer83 they will never add Netflix again because they don’t want to be a multimedia system - they stopped supporting Netflix updates when the Wii was still live, not surprised it never came to the switch

Well technically I'm one of those, but only for a couple more weeks.

We had all assumed that when new consoles got added they'd get added to the standard service. And I was OK with paying early on because I wanted to support the expansion and improvement of Nintendo's online systems.

Since it's now clear that none of that is happening, I've cancelled my auto-renewal.

Honestly, as much as I love Nintendo, I won't be paying for their NSO anymore. Not even their entry level. PC is free and has more games, not to mention the framerate differences. And emulation. But, I will still buy the odd single player game. BOTW 2 definitely, but other than that there's not a lot to look forward to, for me.

Imo, most games on Switch have been a let down.

The Switch is even crap for YouTube.

@the4seer Well, obviously there are numbers. My point was more you were talking about boycotts and the like being pointless, and the only ones I ever heard were about the expansion pass. I don't see how the data here says anything about people disliking the expansion pass.

@Darkyoshi98 That's an excellent point.

I wonder how much of those subscribers have signed up for the Expansion Pack. Seems like mixed messaging to me.

@faint @Varkster I also got the expansion the day it came out, been enjoying it since. My friends also think it's fine.
Watching the meltdown is pure entertainment.

Once again. It’s $4 a month. That’s a really great deal.

@Faucet agree, most of these people dont seem to understand that, meanwhile I'm still paying 4x that on playstation, and I barely even use it, its about the value of games vs the "amount" of things, quality over quantity I say

@Gamer83 strangely enough a lot of us could care less about netflix and the like. Its a gaming console, it already does more than enough

I'm happy with my choice to get the expansion pass so far.

I do wonder if they will be adding access to more DLC content in the future with a subscription. It seems odd that they would include Animal Crossing DLC and nothing else but it also seems odd that they wouldn't simply say that access to more DLC will be available in the future to help give a more positive reception to their pricing choice in the future. They always assure us they will be adding more value in the future but I wish they gave a little more heads up on what and when we could expect it.

I’m a subscriber, yes, but the expansion can kiss my @$$ because I’m not paying that much extra for some super old games I already have on my N64 and Genesis. Nintendo is playing you all. That price will have to drop before I get the expansion.

For all the rage, that's a lot of subscribers. What tools consumers are nowadays.

@the4seer Okay whoops, I misremembered that you were talking about the dislikes and the angry comments, not the boycotts, that was someone else.

And... is that a problem that it has had a target on it's back? Nintendo is blocking both P2P gaming and gaming on servers they don't own or pay for unless you pay them. They literally aren't providing a service, they're just blackmailing the public (the same as Sony and Microsoft). No matter what they offer on the service, it won't change that fact.

That said... this isn't a weekly update, this is their big biannual investor's meeting. I didn't say they could, would, or should update weekly.

I'm really enjoying the Expansion pack. Loving Mario, Kart, Tennis and Dr Mario 64. Those 4 games alone have been worth it. Mario Tennis is better than the switch version. Also played Sonic 2 for the first time.

@Starmesh
I wouldn't use it either, still a feature the console should have.

Hah remember the days Nintendo used to try and pretend the internet didn’t exist?! Now look at them!

@HungryHungryHomer as long as he gets his broken n64 roms “for the price of a coffee” he is happy. A fool and his money are soon parted.

@Gwynbleidd it makes me chuckle people on here say it’s good value and the same people say PS Now isnt… PSnow has the same thing with BC… PS3 and ps2 games…. But then loads of ps4 games too. Massive titles and paid £30 a year so cheaper than this…. I think it has 600 games on it. This has under a hundred…. But it’s “just the price of a coffee” and that means “who cares” I wanna be these guys accountant….

The only reason why I upgraded to the expansion pass is because I have a family plan with 7 other family members/friends. So I only pay $10 a year. No way would I pay $50 a year for NSO.

@MrGreen315 all 3 companies services are a waste of money

@Stocksy Playstation now is 60 a year and as you run your mouth Playstation now has been out 7 years not 3 years like Nintendo online.and ps now pulls games all the time.all 3 companies ain't worth the money people pay but guess I don't care and I have all 3 services

@Darkyoshi98 I’m not “running my mouth” don’t be so rude. I own all three consoles and services on all three and have plenty of money… just don’t want to pay Nintendo for the extra layer as it doesn’t offer value right now.

I will continue to sub to the standard service until A, the N64 controllers become readily available and B, the service gets games that are not rinse and repeat of the Wii and Wii U virtual console. Bar a few offered games weve seen them all before. I cant see point A or B being fulfilled anytime soon.

@GoldenSunRM I’m not saying the service doesn’t have value if you don’t have these games already. I’m saying the product is objectively worse. You are getting an inferior game on NSO+EP compared to Virtual Console version. That could potentially change, but as of now, it’s just a plain fact.

@ModdedInkling I’m scratching my head here... what did you think you were buying!?

There’s a single player campaign and if you want to play the online multiplayer— which yes, is the main course here — you have to pay to play online. Same as Smash, Mario Kart, Tennis, Golf, ARMs, Overwatch, APEX, COD.... and on and on.

@Spiders
Honestly, it was because of how much fun Splatoon 2 was that I bought the game and it was before NSO subscriptions were launched.

Even if I didn't buy it, it's not my fault the game is more expensive than it should be. At the very least they could've gotten more offline content in Splatoon 2. Stuff like offline Salmon Run or combat training would've been amazing. They didn't even bother to do splitscreen, despite the Switch probably being capable of doing so. As of right now, pay $60 USD for the game, stacked on top of however many subscriptions you bought.

As a side note, Apex Legends is free-to-play, so NSO isn't required. But, I'm not touching the Switch version after the disastrous experience I had.

@Spiders Fair enough, the emulation is worse, no doubt about it.

@Ryu_Niiyama Yeah, both services are doing great. PS+ on the other hand, has 46 million subscribers, but lost a million susbscribers since last year.

@GannonBanned yet Hulu is completely OK on the Switch? Nintendo's stance on streaming video apps on Switch doesn't make a ton of sense. Like it almost seems like what you're saying is the case, that they only want it to be a gaming device, yet services like Hulu and YouTube quickly prove that isn't the case. Don't get me wrong, I don't ever expect to see Netflix on the system at this point, but the lack of it on the system really doesn't seem to come down to some mandate that streaming apps can't be on the system when there already are a few of them.

@electrolite77 I disagree. Most people are signed up for services they don’t even use because of one show or another. This is the typical screaming at Nintendo for giving so much but “it’s not the one specific thing I wanted so they’re obviously the worst”

No voice support, no dedicated servers, and all the games I want to play online have their own system that's free. What is the purpose of this online service besides fleecing people?

@Silly_G ive done that with friends, works out dirt cheap! Done it since day one.

59.99 ÷ 8 (people) = 7.49 (a year)
7.49 ÷ 12 (months) = 62p! (a month)

Yet everyone complains.

people bring up the "it only costs X a month" argument. something being cheap isnt an excuse for me to buy it, or even think its a good value. i already dont wanna pay $35 for retro games i rarely play, let alone $80. i begrudgingly pay for it since online is locked behind this retro game subscription

@Gwynbleidd fair enough that a nintendo site would have fans be more forgiving of their practices, and even get value out of it. im already pretty selective on what i spend for games, and the expansion is just the biggest NO ive seen them try to market to us yet

Remember the 80/20/5 rule ladies and gentlemen

@KevinPeterson

Because some people pay for things they don't use we should all just start paying for things we don't use? Weird justification.

@Slinkoy1 and the internet is smaller compared to the whole world

@Moon Actually the Switch version of the YouTube app is my favorite one. It's the only version that puts the free movies available front and center. I have never watched a full movie on my phone but I have watched many on Switch.

@Westlondonmist I've always loved the N64 version of Mario Tennis. I might have to see if there are any Discord groups to join since it has online play now.

@ModdedInkling Maybe I’m biased here — I’m literally playing Splatoon 2 now and have 1,200+ hours on it, and I’m in not in the top 5 in playtime amongst my NSO friends. Worse, I’ve never finished the single-player campaign or DLC.

I think if you were sold on single-player content, you’re in the same boat as a Yoshi or Kirby game and are really paying top price for a 6-8 hour game with low-moderate replayability.

Personally I have no interest in Apex, but I’ve played Fortnite and other F2P games and they don’t devalue the “premium” online multiplayer games for me. All my best experiences have been full priced games, Splatoon 1+2, Overwatch, Titanfall 2, and the fighters SSBU, Street Fighter V and Guilty Gear Strive (though F2P Fantasy Strike is pretty solid).

If they do for you, I can’t argue, but I really think that’s a personal thing and not a fair judgement on the game itself. Same for the more recent Metroid Dread. I played for 45+ hours and got more than I bargained for at $59.99. If other people only care to play once, maybe it’s not worth it. But both games are good enough to sink dozens of hours into, so I think it’s better to side on the not worth it “to me”, rather than pinning it on the substance of the games, which are definitely there for a particular audience.

@Spiders
That's just overcomplicating the whole issue here. The amount of hours you sink into a game is only proportional to how big the game is and really shouldn't be taken into consideration if it's in a comparison with other games. I'm only talking about featuring offline variations of their online multiplayer counterparts. Shooter games have been doing that for a long time, and only few (namely those ported over from PC) have deviated from the idea of local, splitscreen multiplayer. Even Splatoon 2 technically did that to itself if you consider the Dojo from the first game.

I'm saying that the game should provide an alternative to those who simply don't have the online subscription, but WANT to play something similar to that extent. It's not about targeting specific audiences in that sense. It's been proven to work in Splatoon with the NPC Octolings from the singleplayer parts of the game. It's not that hard to feature a "combat training" version of the multiplayer similar to what was done in games like Call of Duty.

There aren't any major games like Splatoon out there, which is generally the problem. Even if there was a carbon copy, I would highly doubt it would be anywhere as good as Splatoon itself.

imo they should add more n64/snes/nes games and also some gamecube titles as well, alongside improving the servers!

I hope they improve it in a way we want them to. The Expansion Pack has been a bust upon release so far.

@duffmmann I understand what you’re saying but other systems host amazon prime, HBO, sho, tubi, movies anywhere, etc etc etc.

Saying “Nintendo has 2 apps” isn’t quite the same thing as welcoming the transition to multimedia system. If anything, I’m willing to bet Nintendo threw Hulu on there as a test. If everybody on Switch was streaming video, they sure as heck would have noticed.

@ModdedInkling You mean like a “bots” mode?

@Spiders
Yes, exactly that.

@thinkhector fair enough mate. I'm certainly glad the Switch has YouTube, but in my experience it crashes a lot, almost every time I use it. And you can't even link your phone to it.
I think it's safe to say that objectively it is the worst version of YouTube on current generation machines.

@GannonBanned nah, my money says that they had to renegotiate a deal with Netflix, and the terms were not to Netflix's liking, so they passed on bringing the service to the system as well as on giving ongoing support to their legacy 3DS and Wii U versions. If Nintendo was into testing a streaming service on the Switch, one would think that they'd have opted for the more popular Netflix over Hulu. Hell they just added Twitch the other day too, so clearly streaming services aren't forbidden on the device. It's gotta just be contract nonsense that has had Netflix passing on the system.