Finding out that Super Mario 3D All-Stars was going to have a limited production run and would only be sold digitally until 31st March 2021 provoked some strong reactions from many Nintendo fans. Sure, there's an argument to be made that anyone who wanted a copy of this compilation game probably picked one up already, but the notion that access to an incredibly popular and important game like Super Mario 64 or Super Mario Galaxy (or Sunshine — yes, we love Sunshine!) was being arbitrarily restricted left a bad taste in the mouth of many gamers. We bought the game — of course we did — but the feeling that we were being strong-armed into it didn't sit well, and neither did the idea that people who bought a Switch from April 2021 would find it increasingly difficult to track down some of the finest games ever made.
Of course, 3D All-Stars wasn't the only product that Nintendo put out to celebrate Super Mario's 35th anniversary — the Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. was similarly time-limited, with no more of the nostalgic novelty console being produced shipped to stores after 31st March.
At the time we imagined a glut of both products immediately hitting eBay — and we've certainly seen attempts from scalpers to flip the console and game online for huge sums. However, we personally have seen both Super Mario 3D All-Stars and the Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. in surprisingly plentiful supply in the intervening months.
Even now, nearly four months after the 'death' of Mario, we're able to visit our local department stores, electronics outlets and game-specific retailers and find both sitting on shelves available to buy. One supermarket chain is selling the Game & Watch for just 39,90€, too, with European outlet Media Markt selling it for 40,99€.
We're wondering if this is just a local phenomenon, or if Nintendo really did go to town when producing this neat little throwback console and deciding print run numbers for 3D All-Stars. We're interested to find out if you can still find either in stores.
So, let us know if you're able to still get your hands Super Mario 3D All-Stars and the Super Mario Game & Watch console by answering the polls below, and tell us the country you're in in the comments (if you like):
Thanks for participating. Let us know below if you've succumbed to temptation with either of these, if you're waiting for the G&W to hit bargain basement prices, or if you can't find either items in your neighborhood for love nor money.
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I went to GameStop a week ago and saw plenty of sealed copies of Super Mario 3D All Stars, and a few MSRP-priced Game & Watches at major online retailers (i.e. Best Buy and Target).
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@PringleMuffin I mean that has nothing to do with this topic, but I agree.
Haven’t checked in a few weeks, but my Best Buy had G&W and Walmart had about ten All Stars.
there's a bunch of them where I live and I suspect it's the same in surrounding countries and eastern europe
There are still several sealed copies of Super Mario 3D All-Stars in my neck of the woods. As for the Game & Watch, I've seen one or two in the occasional store, but it's way less common.
What exactly did all those 'death of Mario' articles accomplish?
So do us a favour next time NLife. Thanks
In Germany the same. I fell for that and bought a second copy before end of March. And still, several retailers sell it.
Most walmarts near me have 50 plus copies of 3D All Stars.
And there are a TON of walmarts near me.
I guarantee Zelda won’t get the same G&W numbers, if all these unsold units are anything to go by.
Wait……it’s not worth £1000 now it’s out of print?!
Why do i feel like they're still at least publishing copies of 3D All Stars?
Best Buy still has Mario 3D All Stars available online and in stores. It's on sale for $50. I already have 2 sealed copies though so I'm good 👍.
There are quite a lot stocks of Mario 3D All Stars in Indonesia from Tokopedia.
And they are still sold with stable prices.
It's still too early in my opinion but way I see it:
Not in stock at some point?
Bad. There's still people that wanted to buy the game with a Switch that didn't get the opportunity to earlier.
Is still in stock so long as the Switch is still being sold?
Bad. Not only did they fully take advantage of FOMO, it can essentially be taken as a lie that Nintendo would outright lie about a games availability in order to force people into a rushed decision that wasn't made with a level head on their shoulders.
A lot of people seem to like missing that point when it comes to this topic but I'm not gonna hold my breath for that type of civil reasoning here, I feel like someone will still pretend this is okay to do.
Went to my local Best Buy last weekend and they had both. To be honest, Nintendo could have saved themselves a lot of grief if they hadn’t announced 3D All Stars was only a 6-month physical print run because I think people wouldn’t have really noticed (besides it being taken off the eShop, which is unacceptable.)
Picked up a switch game yesterday and saw bunch of them in store.
@1UP_MARIO nice profilepic. Epic.
Went to the MediaMarkt (big chain of tech stores, in case you don't know it) in Heerlen, The Netherlands last week and counted 7 copies of Super Mario 3D All-Stars on shelves.
So yeah, that limited release thing was bad for yet another reason. I'm at least glad that the copy I got at the very beginning was only 5,- more expensive simply due to shipping.
It's everywhere here. I can find multiple copies at every videogame store.
@GrailUK
What if they made more copies exactly because of those complain?
It's everywhere I go. The panic over this game was a little over the top
@GoldenSunRM Lol, pretty sure they (like everyone else) manufacture responding to demand, not complaints...
@reporterdavid thanks man. Heres a 1up👍🏻
In the US Pacific Northwest you'd never know any of this has been discontinued. They're not only everywhere, they're usually on sale.
I saw one at my local Target. Was tempted to buy it and flip it, or save it for an Xmas Gift.
Just googled it and I still could easily order copies of SM3D-All Stars for about 50-55€ (it was 60€ when it released) at many online shops. Don't know about retailers though, haven't been to one in a while
It seems like stock for 3D All-Stars is starting to dry up in stores around me, but it's still pretty easy to find. I see the Game & Watch all over the place, though. I was recently in a Walmart that still had a whole stack of them. It does make me wonder how much demand there ever actually has been for it.
@Kyranosaurus no one forced anyone to buy anything. Fomo is the consumer's problem. Sorry for ppl who believed a game selling that many copies would poof n vanish, seemed obvious from very beginning it wouldn't
Right before the 3D All Stars was "discontinued," I saw many people in stores buying up lots of copies. It was obvious they intended to resell them at a profit (why else would you need ten or twenty?). Most stores around here were eventually sold out of 3D All Stars. Then within a couple weeks all the stores had a TON of copies. I'm almost certain that the flippers realized the price hadn't sky rocketed so they returned them to the stores. And now they just sit there.
3D All-Stars is more common for me than the G&W, but I see both of them everywhere in my area every time I browse. GameStop, Walmart, Best Buy, Target; all the big retailers are still very likely to have these readily available.
I suppose everyone who seriously wanted a copy already has one.
Edit: I thought it would be funny to mention, my local Best Buy still has the 3D All-Stars pre-order bonus (some collectible coins) available to purchase separately. There's like, six or seven plastic things with these three comically large, Mario-engraved coins just hanging on a shelf. Nobody ever buys them, haha.
My Best Buy always has preorder bonuses lining the shelves (they had the Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee steelbook available for the longest time, just to name one), so it's funny to see just how much demand there is for that kind of thing in my area.
Was a great aniversary
A lot of shops in Finland sell the game and watch for 39.95€
My company does audits for marketing firms that go into stores and place promotional material, a lot of it game related.
Every time I am called to a store, I walk the games for a little window shopping.
Collectively, the region I work has an estimate of 1,000+ Mario 3D All-Stars.
So, better get them while they still last, I guess.
When I went to buy SSHD, I saw that SM3DAS was on sale for $40.
I bought 6 copies for $45 each, and stored 5 of them. Yes, I’ll be selling them in a few years.
@CammyUnofficial Yes it's a consumer's problem. One created by the provider. You aren't saying anything profound, that's what FOMO is, plain and simple.
I was expecting this type of comment but not for you to ignore the point entirely.
You literally cannot say that a product literally advertised as "limited stock" shouldn't have the expectations of "limited stock". That makes zero sense and only serves to antagonise people who only read the label for what it says.
Remember how everyone said Nintendo would be selling them individually on the Eshop?
Here in my city (one of the lesser important capitals of Mexico) I still see a couple of copies of Super Mario 3D All-Stars and a few Game & Watch, the latter being sold cheaper than the MSRP. I'm thinking about getting another one to have as a clock on my desk at work.
Really hope the upcoming Zelda Game & Watch is as available as the Mario one.
Off-topic: It hurts me to see a Tomodachi Life copy available that I cannot get on a shelf of the third picture when none of the stores around my area have it, not even second-hand copies.
@sketchturner as somebody who sold their entire Nintendo collection online, they should kept them. When the Switch is discontinued, the price will go up. They should have looked at it as a long term investment.
Somewhere there's someone sitting on a mountain of these because they thought they'd be selling them for 10 times the price.
@Kyranosaurus Thing is, I don't recall Nintendo once ever saying stock would be limited. What they said was it would be available until March 31st, which is a pretty clear distinction. To me at least. I guess one could make the argument that ultimately, limited time available would lead to limited stock. I assumed they print a crap ton within that window where once March 31st came and went, there would probably still be a ton available
Edit: I also want to mention there was also never anything said about the game (outside of the eShop) just disappearing off of shelves after March 31st, just to clarify the statement over its availability. I assume Nintendo only meant production of the game would cease after March. Obviously, it's still available
I get the feeling that the number of 3D All-Stars copies still in circulation in retailers far outnumber that of certain current games that were never stated to be a limited release, such as Xenoblade 2.
@The_New_Butler I don’t know what region you are in, but I hope this helps:
https://www.amazon.com/Astral-Chain-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B07NQF74M3/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=astral+chain+nintendo+switch&qid=1627494252&sprefix=astral+chain+&sr=8-3
Also why are these retailing for over $60, that’s crazy!
https://www.amazon.com/Xenoblade-Chronicles-2-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B01MZ94DLA/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=xenoblade+chronicles+2&qid=1627494347&sprefix=xeno&sr=8-3
@Shambo I’m on that mountain!! LOL
But I know it’s gonna take a few years for them to accrue value.
Yeah, far too plenty. Nintendo dubbing this as "This Disney Vault" of Mario is really funny in retrospect.
I have definitely seen the 3D Allstars at the local Gamestop still. And looking online, I see that the nearby Target has the Game & Watch. I need to get the Game & Watch
Mario All-Stars is stocked everywhere.
Same for Game & Watch.
Game & Watch were recently sold at 75% off because a store had too many of them.
The people who tried to be amateur scalpers and bought one or a few of these, thinking they will sell in the future for a fortune, will probably fail, it's just like in the 1990s, when people thought that just because comics like Action Comics #1 became worth millions, it means I can buy comics with #1 on them as an investment and become rich, these comics are still worth nothing today.
It's supply and demand, for common items to become valuable items worth millions, they need to be rare, and things people want, with millions circulating on the market, this will take decades to work, and with people buying copies not to play, but to resell in the future, it means everyone doing this is sabotaging each other, plus, this collection was always terrible and it's the original versions of these games that are worth something to collectors.
They're in every place that sells Switch games. There was never a shortage. It was hype to sell more copies at the time.
I've seen both of them in Walmart and Target in the last few weeks (East Coast US).
Master plan and it worked. I new it would. We fell for the 'last date' ploy and bought a copy. Another cash grab.
Nintendo: "Suckers!" **evil cackle**
@Kyranosaurus - This comment and perspective oversees a critical point; Nintendo stopped all production of this game's physical print in March, as they stated. The FOMO is on the consumer by this point. Nintendo held up their end, and made much in expectation of Mario market demand.
The demand simply wasn't there. Hell, I warned people not to get too tired over this when NL started doing weekly fearmongering articles for that sweet click traffic. I saw THOUSANDS of backstock, I was nowhere near worried.
Walmart has 3d allstars for $50
Somehow i dont think we are going to find ourselves so lucky when it come to the Zelda Game and Watches
Last time I went to my local WalMart, there were 3 copies left of All Stars. This was last week.
I've seen a ton of game'n'watches here in switzerland. People don't really care and even on resale sites, they are usually the same price as retail.
@The_New_Butler Thats ridiculous that your region is seeing such prices, and for such an old game, by pricing standards.
@BloodNinja I don't have the same view from down here, but I don't think the price rise is on the horizon already. It PROBABLY will happen at SOME point, but I think everyone interested in it from this (console) generation already has it... By then, I'll live in the real mountains ^^ currently working on that. My forest has gotten too small, the city is literally closing in on me...
Should see if shipment figures for 3D Allstars appear in Nintendo’s next financial briefing. Something tells me either they are still putting it in circulation, or it’s not at all popular. Given that it’s Mario I’d guess at the former.
I went to Walmart just yesterday and saw some copies of 3D All Stars. No Game and Watch's, but if I went to my Gamestop, I'm sure I'd see a couple.
Also, unrelated, but that Walmart had copies of Fire Emblem Warriors for 3DS, and no other 3DS games. Walmart is strange.
@Shambo I’m heading the same direction. I hope you find your mountain soon.
I picked up and second G&W cheap new and sealed - hadn’t used my original it was in the collection but glad I did - really like it. Cant wait for the zelda version. I wish they’d put more on the mario one. The original mario kart would have been the ultimate touch really.
@Bibi I’m from England and everytime I’m in America I say same thing…. Walmart is a strange but to me a wonderful place…. None of our stores match Walmart for its randomness…
@victordamazio As a general rule, things made to be collectible, tend not get any great value.
This is a bit off-topic, but as a veteran of the console wars between Sega and Nintendo, I find it amusing to see an Alex Kidd game sitting right beside a Mario game on the shelf.
Yeah, I know Sonic games have been sold alongside Nintendo games for years, but Alex Kidd is the one who was inspired more by Mario and marketed as Sega's first mascot.
Now, the two mascots are side by side on the same shelf.
You can find 3d all stars on eBay for 60 bucks from some sellers. It is still out there. And super Mario 3d world was the number one selling game so far in Europe. And is still doing great here. So much for the cry babies who were saying Mario is dead. He is still much alive. I mean really. How 5 year old acting can some gamers really be.
We don’t care. Give us Zelda 35th…
I think nintendo lied about them being limited run just to make people "panic buy" and cause the sales to spike. I've seen no shortage of copies of 3D all stars or game and watch anywhere. Fully stocked everywhere I've seen it. Not only that, but I work at Walmart and electronics shipments come in and more copies of 3d all stars for switch came in recently. It's not limited run like they said. They're obviously still producing it.
Regardless, makes me laugh because you have scalpers trying to sell both for hundreds of dollars on eBay and Mercari just for it to be normal price at any store and still in stock.
The Target I work at still has set locations for both on the front endcap of video games. I’ve never seen anything get front endcap spaces for so long! Especially not discontinued products like these. It’s nuts.
Also, we have tons of 3D All-Stars and mountains of the Game & Watch.
I actually bought one of the game and watches last week! They're far from rare collectors items!
I've seen a fair amount of both. Now Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light on the other hand....
@UmbreonsPapa I mean I never said anything about the games just poofing after the set date, that's exactly why I said in my original comment "it's still too early" because I want to know how this looks say the upcoming christmas, so that's not the point being made for anyone who's trying to counter that for some reason.
@Paraka This doesn't really oversee anything just because Nintendo didn't go about it the usual way. Yes they didn't "say" limited edition but it really doesn't change what it means.
The whole point is that even by digital sales (especially digital sales actually), there is zero point to Nintendo "stopping production".
If this really has nothing to do with Nintendo drumming up FOMO, then let me know logically why you would ever need to pull sales for the digital version. It's a side of the debate literally no one has given a good answer for.
Nintendo themselves have already given reason in the realm of "to make the anniversary special" but that doesn't fly as logical reason. Nintendo's a business. They are fully aware of what stopping sales when they did meant.
Thank God I live in Romania where people only play Fifa on PlayStation and barely heard of Nintendo
I see them all the time at Walmart
@victordamazio I believe video games are very different, any sealed first party Nintendo game will worth a lot of money at some point. The same goes for "good" RPG's.
I called this from the start. People were panicking as if Nintendo were going to RECALL them after the 31st of March, which is a proposition so preposterous that it doesn't warrant entertaining.
They were simply transparent about when they were going to stop manufacturing them. They were always going to be available in stores long after that, but no new copies are being produced.
The local toy store here (Suburban Holland) had a Mario Game&Watch on the shelf, no idea about "3D all stars", carts with to-be-sorted stock were standing in front of the shelves for Switch games. ^_^;
@Silly_G yeah, but pulling it from the eShop is lame.
I saw both at a toys r us. AT ORIGINAL PRICE
Yes on both, see them every week.
They are all over the shelves at my local GameStops and Targets. In fact, 3D all stars was even recently on sale.
Fair amount of both in Wal-Mart in Ontario... How many copies did they make?
The las time I checked the big stores here in Puerto Rico, they still had plenty of Super Mario Game & Watch systems.
I have seen 3D All-Stars recently, though not a ton of them. The Mario Game & Watch, though, there are literal stacks of them piled up behind the glass at my local Walmart. And here I was worried about getting my hands on one last year! I'm breathing easy about the Zelda one.
@Kyranosaurus - You know the orders of what is shipped is by the demand from retailers, right? Nintendo shipped out that many not to be intentionally overbearing, but that's what Wal-Mart and others wanted and expected to sell through. It's the same argument people make on amiibo as well.
And as for your "not logical enough," defense. That in itself is not logical, either, as it's based on your own subjective view of being logical. It's like saying pumpkin spice flavor should be year-round cause it being a "seasonal" thing is illogical.
That defense is coming from a personal desire, not really logical. Businesses have limited quantities of things all the time with little to no pushback. Even in games, and this is coming from someone who naturally detests DLC for being "rented."
Nintendo just chose to consider selling SM3DAS in a limited print, and their course was intentionally to celebrate only the 35th anniversary.
The argument is like demanding access to all anniversaries in Fortnite or other such multi-player games simply because you now bought the game, instead of when it was around.
I mean, with that argument, we should be more upset that Nintendo shipped less of Xenoblade 2 and no copies can be found at MSRP.
Well, that was a big fuss over nothing.
There's plenty of both still around. And as for Super Mario Bros. 35, the game was free to begin with. It's sad and kind of stupid they took it away so fast, and I miss it, but I'm not angry about it because it didn't cost anything and we all knew it was a time exclusive.
Eastern Europe, Marios are still in every store that sells Switch games, so far never gone up in price. Ditto for online flea markets (where I usually buy physical copies). No, I still won't buy it, that's what we have emulation for.
In Japan lots of convenience stores still have the download card for sale also so that’s still an option if you don’t want to go physical
@The_New_Butler Hyrule Warriors Definitive seems to still be around in limited numbers, I've seen it once or twice recently but it's certainly not widely available.
I'm afraid I missed out on Torna - I told myself this wouldn't be available forever and I should buy it, failed to do so and now can't find it anywhere.
I hope all of these extras have to go back to Nintendo to be destroyed at a loss. Nintendo forced us all to buy these things at a time when gamers were trying to get the PS5 or Xbox, so they deserve to lose money on this. I had to buy 3D All Stars on an installment, and now it's still available for anyone to buy. I hope Nintendo learns its lesson but probably not. It is the most anti-consumer company out there. Sony and Microsoft just released new consoles and all the games are there for as long as we want.
I've seen a lot of 3D All-Stars in three eMarkets here in germany. And the Game &Watch is on sale with a 20% discount, but there are still all there.
@Minecraft_Master lol. Funny comment made me laugh.
Play-Asia still has a bunch of copies.
I’d pay $20 for a Game and Watch, but short of that I’ll pass.
@Kyranosaurus,
You can't have it both ways, Nintendo have clearly said the items were limited edition, but have obviously produced enough to go around.
When this was first announced people moaned that not everybody would be able to get a copy, now this has been proven not to be the case, still people comp!ain.
@JoeYabuki My point stands, if you buy something to sell later in the future, you will sabotage everyone who thought of the same idea, and all of them are sabotaging you.
Videogames that sold millions like Pokémon Platinum, still getting huge prices, get a help because there were no scalpers.
Another thing, Marvel exploited these people and sold comics sealed in a plastic package, exactly because people were buying comics as an investiment, Marvel almost went bankrupt thanks to people not buying comics anymore.
@Paraka FOMO is built around the desire of the consumer. That's my point. It doesn't have anything to do with what *you've seen in the back of store stock or whatever.
I feel my point is being entirely ignored here so we'll agree to disagree but FOMO isn't an "official" strategy and Nintendo won't tell you that it's what they're doing.
I know I made the big mistake of being critical of Nintendo on a Nintendo fan website and I regret it every time seeing as this is one of the few companies that gets away with the exact thing that other companies do to large scrutiny, where Nintendo gets away scot-free because they can do no wrong.
I'd like to TRY and say outright that I am a Nintendo fan and I'm not here to just say negative things for the sake of it but again, I made the mistake of pointing out an anti-consumer practice on a fan site.
And no, this doesn't excuse Nintendo's other stock shortages either, this one is just far more noticeable due to Mario being the bigger name, so yes I would say the exact same thing about Xenoblade, but I get that people on here have this idea that "Nintendo's done it before, so it's okay to do it again, and again".
"Personal desire" is the video games industry as a whole. You basically want to tell me that everything deemed as anti-consumer is the consumer's own fault, and while you could be right in some twisted way; that's the part where our views simply don't allow for us to say something that makes sense to the other. I don't stand for anti-consumer, therefore anything I say right now will not be an argument you care for and I'm sorry to hear that.
What the retailers currently have is not part of my argument and since I feel like my point is still being ignored I might as well stop here (because yes; the examples you gave are also ones I don't see eye to eye with thus aren't good counter-arguments to me, genuinely sorry).
Again, agree to disagree but thanks for the polite engagement.
❗Here in 🏴, I've seen plenty of both AND I've seen the G&W on sale, with £10 off.
@johnvboy Again I point to my first comment here:
"It's still too soon" so I said.
I'm sorry to say but Nintendo Life deciding to post a poll on the matter right now does not speak for the future of Stock by say christmas or the christmas after.
I don't know who "everybody" is to you but my brother has yet to get a Switch. He wants a Switch and wants SM3DAS to go with it but for the moment it's not something he can focus on right now for multiple financial reasons.
If in a year or so he manages to finally get his hands on them, that's fantastic news but even then I regret to inform you my brother is not "everybody" after that either.
What's a store? Are those those places where people go to buy things? Instead of online? People still use those?
#pandemiclife #dumbjoke
@GrailUK,
Those Mario 3-D collection discontinuation countdown articles were always about the clicks and revenue, why else would there be so many.
@BloodNinja,
Ninja scalper, the thought of it just shocks me to the core.
Mario Bros 1,2,3 and Super Mario World were my fav Mario games. The ones which came after it just didn't interest me in the slightest. I much prefer Zelda and Metroid these days. Or Smash and Mario Kart instead of Mario platformers.
@Kyranosaurus,
I would say pretty much everybody who currently owns a console has had ample opportunity to buy this game, and as of this moment it looks like stock will be available for some time, can't promise everybody who buys a console in the future will be catered for, but that is just how it is, if I were in a similar position I would make buying the game my first priority, as getting a Switch will always be an option.
To be totally honest, I fail to see the point in buying this collection. Any emulator can play all three of these games and often better than how Nintendo released them on Switch. I played Super Mario 64 at 60 fps via my web browser using a PS5 controller on a 4k monitor... until Nintendo can top that experience with their re-release of that game then I'm not spending a dime.
Seen plenty of both items at Target and Best Buy around the SF East Bay.
@johnvboy Mhm, I'd be in full agreement but unfortunately it's as you say that my concern does indeed lay with the future further out.
Glad to hear you're in that easy a position though.
Yes, I've still seen 3D All-Stars copies in stores. I've never seen a single Mario Game and Watch, even before they were discontinued.
@Kyranosaurus - I don't think dismissing my counter-argument as fanaticism for a brand would be ideal, though.
Inconvenience would be argued is anti-consumer. Going back to my pumpkin spice, or anniversary events, it is of great inconvenience I do not get to enjoy, say, Dragalia Lost's Monster Hunter collab. I missed it, it's inconvenient for me, but is it anti-consumer? Well it barricade ME from that content, so I can argue that it does.
But you, or anyone else who isn't invested in it won't see it as that important, therefore not targeted FOMO marketing.
So in a way, anything with a shelf life is anti-consumer. Imagine someone wanting a GCN right now. Heard they're actually becoming quite a demand actually.
Now that's not saying your argument carries much merit. As the limited quantity practice may lead to a terrible precedent to the future of releases. This isn't the first time Nintendo has done this, and quite often one doesn't celebrate 35 years of Mario for another 5 years. However, this hill of abundance isn't a good one to die on for such an argument. As the widely still-accessible game is still that, accessible.
@B_Lindz the inability or unwillingness to tinker with emulators is most likely why anyone who is aware of those options still bought a copy. I have so little time to game anymore I'd rather just spend a little cash to get a copy of an old title that I know will work out of the gate.
I remember a certain Nintendo website claiming that March 31 was the “day that Mario dies” and Nintendo is evil for making 3D All Stars a limited time release, preventing millions of future Switch owners a chance to purchase the game. “Preorder Mario Game and Watch because scalpers will hoard the tiny amount Nintendo produces!” Whoops.
I was one of the few on this site who defended their decision to make it a limited release before the whole “Mario Doomsday” thing (seriously, this is the cringey, hyperbolic phrase Nintendolife and other fans used at the time). And wouldn’t you know it, 4 months later, the games are still widely available and have even had markdowns. Same with the Game and Watch.
I just saw Mario 3D all stars at Best Buy and almost tempted me to buy my 3rd copy but I resisted
I miss Super Mario Bros. 35...
@Paraka Yes, the Dragalia Lost example, as well as the Pumpkin Spice example are indeed both examples of FOMO.
That's what it is. I can't help you much further if you still disagree but yes, FOMO can be something that targets a specific audience and not just the wider public audience in general.
You would be in "Fear Of Missing Out" of that Dragalia Event, thus more inclined to play and perhaps even more quickly spend money to get more pulls (not saying you DO do that, but that's the best case scenario for the developer holding the event).
You would be in "Fear Of Missing Out" of that pumpkin spice so you feel more inclined to buy the product be it in larger quantities or simply ensuring that the entirety of stock is bought through at least one purchase. Of course products that are literally impossible to produce at certain times of year are exempt from this but in this day and age, that's extremely rare.
Forgive me if this was from someone else but I think you also mentioned something about limited Fortnite game content too? If so, yes, that too is FOMO, it's quite literally been used along with the term itself at Games Developer Conference meetings as an example to help game devs in business to invoke "FOMO" among consumers and their friends.
Lastly, yes; things that inconvenience the consumer and have potential negative impacts on their choices are indeed deemed anti-consumer. I'm not trying to be smart or making anything up, this is literally what it is for both of these terms.
FOMO and anti-consumerism.
Holy moly I wouldn't resist grabbing the xbox series x right there. 2 controllers too. Wow.
Just checked DekuDeals for 3D All-Stars:
Still available at Wal-Mart, Gamestop, Best Buy and Target. Wal-Mart and GS have it at $50(used copy at GS goes for $45), BB at $51. Not available directly at Amazon, but there are sellers selling it for $60 and a little under even.
Leave it to internet to blow something out of proportion.
@PringleMuffin
No it should be Indiana Jones
I saw a couple game and watches at my local Just Press Play
My Walmart has both. I really want a physical copy of xenoblade 2 😭
My local Wal-mart had copies of PSP movies still on the shelves just until the start of the year.
I'm in Canada and they just recently opened the non essentials part of Walmart a couple of weeks ago. Last night saw they had a bunch of All Stars. Didnt see any Game and Watch but I wasnt looking for it. Another had many though
Does this work just as a clock? I kind of just want a mario clock on my desk.
Thanks for making this, I have wanted to say about multiple copies of 3D-Allstars for a while now. I know at least last time I looked at my Walmart, I saw some.
I spilled tea on my box. Was thinking of picking up another one, because it is supposed to be valuable, and I keep seeing it going cheap. Of all the games, I spill tea on this ultra rare, but weirdly readily available and on sale one.
It’s really cool that they made enough of something for once. Now maybe we make a few more copies of Metroid Dread Collectors Edition, the matching Amiibo, and some white Switch OLED models.
This kind of stuff just seems to pile up in Hong Kong.
Went to my local Target store last Thursday and there are still plenty copies of SM3DAS.
@Dalrint The Game & Watch? Yes, it works as a clock, but if you want it to show the time all the time I think you need to have it connected to a power source.
@Frobodobo Same in Sweden. My local independent has about 15 G&Ws on the shelf at 400kr now instead of the original RRP of 795kr. They’re just trying to get rid of them.
Only have one video game store on Guernsey and havent been in there for ages, so dont really know
Argos still has 3D All-Stars, so there's no danger of them running out any time soon
@Kyranosaurus - And that there lies the problem; Everything is anti-consumer in that context. Even non-24 hour stores if one works overnight and desires, say, a hamburger. Sounds hyperbolic, but that is technically anti-consumerism in the truest form.
Continuous availability is the only pro-consumer methodology. However, shelf life exists, and this goes beyond your common expiring products. As interest wanes it starts to become less likely to be purchased, add on top that the comfortability of "knowing" something will always be there, the consumer will then opt to not purchase the item till it becomes greatly reduced in price. However, that only happens on clearance when, for this example, the shelf life is no longer desired enough to continue, and thus becomes anti-consumer. As it is no longer available. Most of the time becomes too costly to maintain space for only the select few will purchase.
To use a non-consumer example: It would be like if someone missed my wedding. And hopes that I hold a new ceremony for those that missed it. That's costly to me for those that have other, more important priorities. But my refusal could be considered "anti-consumer" in a variant of being "anti-friends/family."
The retail space is very lucrative, and if games like Xenoblade 2 or the tradegy forgotten that is Codename STEAM ain't selling... why maintain that space for the fewer and fewer that expect the convenience for them to win out? They move them out for new games far more will buy. Something simply has to give.
And digital events? Same deal. They pay to maintain collaboration for a short amount of time. And the response is similar. Why maintain a license agreement when nearly everyone stopped buying your crossover packages?
And self-promotion, like anniversaries? Well, how long SHOULD a game maintain their 1st year, or 5th year, or 35th year anniversary celebratory content? Isn't it not even a celebration when you can get thematic first year content on a tenth year?
@Paraka No, sorry. At first you were being sensible but you're quite honestly reaching to ridiculous extremes to try and prove a point based on technicalities. My own examples are based purely on what is actually already been deemed as is under the examples of both FOMO and anti-consumerism.
It sounds hyperbolic because it IS.
If you really expect me to keep up with an argument by ignoring official examples while verifying your own extremes, then you must also allow me to say something as ludicrous as "Nintendo is at fault because they decided to enter the games industry". That's the level you want me to stoop to with an argument like that and at this point I feel like perhaps you aren't taking me seriously. So sorry for ever considering a normal response, have a good day/week/year or what else may bring you joy, genuinely.
Maybe someone else will be more willing to engage in such a one-sided debate. Your argument is strictly in favour of defending companies full stop. I can't argue against what YOU consider to be the morally correct side of the fence if everything coming from your mouth is strictly against pro-consumerism.
Again, agree to disagree, goodbye.
God I'm awful at disengaging from these never ending loop cycles of useless debates.
Well I did said it was going to have extra copies after the deadline date and I was right about it.
@Kyranosaurus - It's not hyperboly, though. Cause then you're dismissing people who work overnights. So access is extremely limited. I use the more blatant example to get the point across, hence I pointed out it sounds hyperbolic. But because it is of no consequence to you, you see it differently. That was the whole goal of that example. YOU see it as a nothing burger, cause you aren't subject to it.
I am pointing out you can, theoretically, make the argument of one's personal inconvenience as anti-consumer. Cause by the definition, availability is everything (and many aspects, you're right). But the problem is, you are basing off what you desire to be available to your standards, but that's not a personal attack. That's common consumer perspective period.
As I said, the perspective of the GCN not being widely available is anti-consumerism by that context. Simply because it is in high demand now and the second-hand market is brutal. For one who is looking to collect GCN games be it for whatever reason, they would agree to this statement. As they would expect it to be more widely accessible being an older system and, therefore, cheaper.
But that's the problem, Nintendo cannot be beholden to retain all the availability for everything, every day, for every one when they, eventually, find it desirable. Not profitable, and being a business, smart to end production of something as such. Cause they're throwing away money at such a thing. So they have to make decisions consumers abroad don't like, cause for them it is inconvenient. Now when and to what extreme is debatable if Nintendo's actions are an overreach, or that a certain practice can lead to a precedent of more unsavory practices. However, it in of itself as an action plain is business survivability.
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