Hitman 3 - Cloud Version Now Includes 60FPS Performance Mode On Switch

I think cloud gaming is a good thing, but on switch? It completely defeats the whole 'play anywhere' aspect of the system. And how many people want to play Hitman 3 without playing the 'first' two? Not many, because why would you? I really don't understand why they put this on switch.

@Low_ink I agree 100%

@Low_ink How does it stop play anywhere?

A lot of people have network around them so they could still play anywhere. Plus, a lot of people also play mostly docked, so this still wouldn't be that big of a deal.

I just take this for what it is, a way for us to play a next-gen game on older hardware. It's what we'll have to settle for until Nintendo gives us something stronger or the devs spend a lot of man-hours trying to scale things back to make the game work, like the DOOM ports.

@Low_ink Tbf even the Switch Lite defeats the point of the Switch

@Low_ink and if you play it on the switch lite you are definitely defeating the purpose as everything the switch stands for. I guess there are a couple people out there who A) play primarily at home, B) have a PC (or other powerful console) C) have played the other Hitman games and D) want to play the new one on the toilet and/or bed. Now if they offered the previous ones and cross saves...

@Low_ink Even if this was a port, it wouldn’t have ‘play anywhere’. The Hitman games require an online connection at all times.

No thanks. Once the cloud service is gone, you got nothing. As bad as the services Nintendo and Sega gave with satellite and modem download back in the 80s.

@Kalmaro The only place you could play is somewhere with a good internet connection. So mostly just at home. I think there's some cars with internet, but not many. You would have to specifically pay extra to have a hotspot from your phone.

But not playing everywhere isn't even the only problem! Why on earth would someone play the third game in the series without playing the first few first? If they're trying to attract a crowd of switch players, wouldn't it make sense to put the first two on switch first? I played the first one, and it seems like the story is continued on through the next two.

As for putting in the effort, well yeah, I think they should've! Yes it takes more money than cloud, but then it actually works for the switch. Apparently Crash 4 did an excellent job porting with the hardware in mind, which is good to hear. In my opinion, if your gonna do something, you should at least do it good.

Having all of these problems at once makes it a strange thing to put on switch. If they would at least put the first two I could forgive them more. But if they don't, well I don't really understand why they it's on here.

@mariomaster96 It's funny, because they could've charged $120 for a dock for the lite and it would've been great for everyone, but they didn't for some reason and it's strange. I completely agree though.

@Low_ink Also Hitman 3, at least on every other console, has the ability to import levels from Hitman 1 and 2. I’m currently playing the whole trilogy through the one disc on PS5.

@Darknilious Yeah, it really is for an extremely small group of people. Cross saves and the last games though? Yeah, then there's a reason for it on switch.

Cool. The internet in my area still isn't fast enough for cloud gaming.

@nessisonett In the first one at least, you could still play offline, you just wouldn't qualify for the leaderboards. Which I would say is worth the tradeoff for playing on the go. Or they could make a custom switch-only leaderboard, that could work too.

You can play through all the stages on the other platforms? I assume you'd need to own all three games to do so, but that's still really neat!

@Ulanda Same for digital games. When server is gone, you lose 100%

@Low_ink You do need to own the games but it doesn’t have to be digital copies, you can buy the original discs for cheap and then import the levels over to Hitman 3. And yeah, you can play the games offline but that removes all progression, challenges and unlockable equipment. So it’s basically pointless.

Yeah no this is the kind of game I buy a year later 75% off on Steam, pass.

I've played both Control and Hitman 3 on my Switch and have been very impressed with both games. No real noticeable lag, pretty smooth performance and gameplay. I live somewhere with great Internet, though, so that might be why I've been happy with both games.

@Low_ink cloud gaming is good but if it is like stadia or something, that is fine. Heck if it is on Xbox One or PS4, that is also fine. But on switch? completely defeats the purpose of being able to play on the go.

I agree with you

@Low_ink I'd love for them to have the first and second on Switch!

Unfortunately, either that's not feasible for them or... Well I don't know. Perhaps the scope of the game is so big that it's not so easy to dial it back? I'm no professional when it comes to this stuff.

Hopefully, we get the first two games at some point.

To answer the "play anywhere internet" dilemma, you can just Hotspot your phone. I'm a field employee for an electric utility and I do this all the time if I want to play something online; been doing this a lot lately with MH:R.

Sure, streaming a game eats a lot more data than an online match of splatoon or mario kart, but you run into the same data problem if you were to do this with any other mobile device.

@Ventilator
That is not true, as long as you have stored the data somewhere, the servers being gone is completely irrelevant for digital games.
The fact that you at least CAN store games is already a massive plus compared to cloud gaming in my mind.

Not to mention, in case a game isn't available anywhere official anymore, you can bet you will find the game on the internet still.
That is next to impossible if a game was only available via cloud gaming (though of course that is irrelevant as long as the game is available outside of the cloud somewhere. Depends on whether you trust that always being the case for future games.)

@Low_ink I don't pay extra for using my phone as hotspot, what do you mean?

@nessisonett Nice, sounds like a good time! As for it being pointless, I'd have to agree, but it wouldn't be too hard of a thing to change for a switch release, right?

@Kalmaro Neither am I, but we can hope!

@Low_ink I’m not sure. I believe that if there was another way of doing it then IO probably would have changed it in Hitman 2 and 3. Who knows why they did it that way but I wouldn’t think they’d create an offline progression for a potential Switch version.

@Kalmaro Technically they wouldn’t need to port the first two games. The third is being streamed and the third game just requires licenses to play the first two games completely within the third game’s engine. All they would really need to do is open up the possibility of DLC licenses for the 1st and 2nd games’ levels the same way they did it for Xbox, PS and PC.

@Ventilator

Depends on the Shop and the Console.
Games you buy on Gog you can store anywhere you want.
Most Games i've got through Amazon Prime had also no DRM (not all).
Even on Steam are Games without DRM that you can actually store elswhere and play without Steam.
The Wii U and 3DS are more Customer friendly in that case than the Switch, as you can Store your Games and Data on a USB-Stick/SD Card and put the Backup on your PC.
Same with the PS3.

It is the newest Generation i do not trust.

I am pretty sure it will be easier to play Games from DOS to the Playstation 2 in 100 years than much Stuff past that Point (besides the Stuff from Gog).

@nessisonett Oh! It's like what they did with the second game then. That's a really good move on their part.

Or, it will be once they lust us play all three games and have it streamed. I still wish there was a port and a physical copy, but I'll take what I can get.

@Low_ink Still wouldn't matter either way considering the game requires an online connection to play on the other platforms too so you won't be playing this on the go regardless

@Kalmaro Yeah, the cloud version isn’t a perfect solution but Switch is the console of compromise. I worry that the good work from Panic Button has led people to believe that everything is possible, which it certainly isn’t. I do hope they enable the other two games in this streamed versions though, it’s a bit odd that it isn’t already.

Offers: 60 FPS

Doesn't offer: Actually being able to buy it.

@Strumpan Hmm, well that's good then! I know certain plans make you pay for having a hot spot. Which I always thought was stupid.

@nessisonett They may not, but it would be nice if they could! It would only really be a best case scenario, but even if you had to be connected to the internet to play, it would still be better than streaming, specifically for those with bad internet connections.

@TheFrenchiestFry Yes, but they could change that for the switch version! There's no reason why they can't put in the effort to make that happen! But even if they didn't, if it wasn't cloud people with bad connections could play. Even though it wouldn't be perfect, it would still be better than what we have now.

(And I'm not salty about not being able to play it, I have a more than stable connection for streaming, and a gaming laptop from last year. It's just that lots of people don't have a great internet connection.)

@Low_ink Cloud versions are usually the last resort

I doubt they didn't at least try to get the game running natively or entertain the idea before going a different route. Similar things happened with games like Final Fantasy XV and Resi VII where developers openly discussed their efforts to get their games running on the hardware directly, but they couldn't even after sacrificing more than what should've been required, so they came to compromises

Has anyone tried?
Genuinely curious 🤔🤔🤔

If it gives people more opportunities to play a game that might not have been available to them, I'm all for cloud gaming. More choice is better.

Id be okay with cloud gaming if only its like half or a third of the normal price of the physical game. But with the same price nahhh.. Why would i pay the same price with the others if im only "renting" the game.

This update makes the game even more better. The game was already good on the Switch and now it's even better. I am very satisfied with the product.

@Chowdaire

"To answer the "play anywhere internet" dilemma, you can just Hotspot your phone."

Maybe if you only drive around the city. I live in the country and as soon as I'm 5 miles outside of the city my internet connection significantly slows and has random connection issues. Game streaming takes alot of bandwidth.

@Low_ink I see on your profile you live in the US, things might be different on your side of the Atlantic.

i'm using stadia for like 6 months now,and i must say, it works great even with 20 google smart devices and alot of hue products in my home. no lag or whatsoever.

i'm definetly behind streamed gaming from day one, it's much more envirement friendly(i hate plastic waste wich will be laying around in nature for more then houndred years) and fast to pick up a game.
i have to admit, i don't play games as much as i used to do, i have a family and away from home more then 11 hours a day, so this platform is ideal for me.

@Low_ink
you can't blame the product, get a better internet connetion before you judge cloud gaming.
it works like a gem from where i'm using it.

@Low_ink
720p cloud gaming is not demanding high speed internet, you can even play hitman at free wifi acces points, 4k is another thing.

@Azuris I agree with all. I have over 100 games on Amazon Prime, but didn't know they were also DRM free like GOG.
PC have an advantage
I already backed up PS3, Switch, 3DS, VITA and Wii U games to HDD. Sony have a official Backup app for VITA.

Switch and 3DS is also easy to backup. Just copy all games from SD to USB HDD on PC.
I also have Plan C.
Emulators. Already now i can run Switch, Xbox 360, PS3, Wii U etc. at 60 fps on my PC.
PS4 and Xbox One emulation is too early in development, so i haven't checked how those performs.

99% for anything released the last 40 years on consoles, Amiga, PC, Atari etc. is all on sites. Basically nothing will be gone in the future if you know where to look.

@PALversusNTSC Stadia is easily the best cloud of them all as of today.
I would say Destiny 2 is it's benchmark game on how good streaming can be.

@Kirgo I always have backup of console games on all consoles before Xbox One/PS4, but i keep 100% backup of Switch on PC too.

The rest what you say is what i replied to other the other dude right above here.
Remember most people don't know where to get backups on the net.
I also made sure to have a beefy PC so i can emulate most consoles ever at full speed if needed. My current PC is 2-3 times as powerful as Series X and PS5.

@Ventilator only if you haven't saved them on a memory card. Thise games need a server to connect with and once this server is gone, those games, just like multiplayer only games, are useless.

@Ventilator

The funny Thing is, some of those Games are the Versions from Gog, they have all kind of files from Gog in the Folder haha

@Strumpan I never thought about that, at any rate, it's good you don't have to pay extra!

@PALversusNTSC Oh, no I have great internet! I could do lots of streaming games if I wanted to! I just don't see any reason why they would put the third game in a trilogy as a cloud game, on a system marketed about taking it anywhere, without even putting the first two on there too. After all, most people who own the first two probably have the hardware capable of running the third. Overall I'm rust confused as to why they they did it like that.

I'm not touching these "Cloud Editions" with a barge pole.

Cloud gaming as a subscription service I get, but if I'm buying the game I want to own the actual game - not access to a service that they have no incentive to maintain indefinitely.

I'm sorry what ? 720p at 60fps? Why not 1080p at 60 ? Hell why not 1440p at 120 for all we care ? Why do you still have to choose fps over res on a ***** cloud game ? What is this amateur hour *****?

@Ulanda True. A lot of games sadly have online DRM in single player even back in the PS3/360 days.

@Kalmaro @Low_ink A quick note, noticed there that Hitman 1 and 2 are actually playable in the Hitman 3 Cloud version. In fact, those two games are currently half price. They just take the form of DLC same as the other consoles. So you can play the entire trilogy on Switch through the cloud version of 3.

@nessisonett Well, that changes everything, imo

@nessisonett That fact completely destroys half of my argument, nice!