Nintendo has announced that Pikmin 3 Deluxe will be launching exclusively on Nintendo Switch later this year.
The game will feature multiple difficulty modes, all DLC from the original game on Wii U, and even some brand new side-story missions featuring Olimar and Louie. You can check out the announcement trailer above.
Pikmin 3 Deluxe delivers a full suite of additions and enhancements, including the ability to play the whole Story mode in co-op with a friend, new side-story missions which can also be played in co-op, and all the Mission mode DLC stages from the original game’s release.
With new difficulty options, lock-on targeting, optional hints and the choice to play at a more relaxed pace, it’s easier than ever to join in on the Pikmin fun, enjoy the game’s beautiful scenery and get a taste of what this vibrant world has to offer. Fun features from the original game also return in Pikmin 3 Deluxe, such as the in-game camera, which allows players to snap photos of the game’s lush environments and curious creatures from a pint-sized perspective.
For seasoned players who are ready to deploy their Pikmin-plucking skills in some new challenges, Pikmin 3 Deluxe adds new side-story missions featuring Olimar and Louie exploring planet PNF-404. And for a bit of friendly Pikmin-flinging fun, there are even head-to-head multiplayer matches available in Bingo Battle.
A report earlier this year correctly suggested that Pikmin 3 Deluxe was set to be announced in the coming months. That report also noted that the previously rumoured Super Mario 35th anniversary remasters would also appear at some stage this year.
Pikmin 3 Deluxe launches on Switch on 30th October. You can find lots of lovely screenshots and a look at the game's box art here.
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The “Deluxe” name doesn’t seem to mean much here. There’s not really anything new, content-wise. Just difficulty options, if I’m not mistaken? They should’ve put in a Funky Mode.
EDIT: Scratch that. I somehow missed the extra missions with Olimar and Louie. I stand by my Funky Mode comment, though.
Wow - Arlo will be out of his mind.
yes, can't wait to play this again along with the challenges. just wish # 1 and 2 were also bundled
Well, that certainly came out of nowhere.
Wow, I loved this game.
Curious about control schemes though - Pikmin was perfect for the point and click with the wii remote, I absolutely adored playing it that way and can't imagine reverting back to analogue stick (Pikmin 3 was my first in the series)
1) awesome
2) guess big directs are done.
3) awesome.
Let's do a barrel roll of joy people!!
Well. It's something at least!
I'm not sure that there'll be enough new content to make me buy it again. I was actually a bit disappointed in Pikmin 3 because the game felt like it abruptly ended right when it was just getting started. Only took a couple of days of casual play so ended up just returning my copy.
Its great seeing that deluxe actually MEANS something here - new side story and all dlc? Hell yeah! Cant wait!
Hopefully one day we will get to play pikmin 4. One day
Well there we go. Another port, albeit of a good game.
If they could just change Olimar to Mario and Luigi..it would sell 10 times more
Alternative title for this game: "Arlo's compensation for having to deal with the SMT community on Twitter"
There went Pikmin 4. In other news GTA V to be re-released again next gen.
Called it - they want to port EVERYTHING from the Wii U over.
That's another big shadow-drop! Perhaps I will jump on and play my first Pikmin game this time.
But wow, it's like the Wii U never existed!
Enjoyed this originally. Will double dip.
I love that they are just dropping trailers on Youtube and ignoring the constant cries from entitled people demanding a Direct.
Exactly what the game needed, the big question is how they're gonna handle the stuff that made particular use of the Wii U Game Pad.
I bet it'll make use of detached Joy-Cons with motion controls for the best experience anyway.
I really liked the Wii remote + Wii U gamepad control setup of the original version. One of the best examples of the second screen being used to it’s full potential in my opinion. It’d be really cool if they could replicate that with a second switch somehow.
Great game for people who missed it on WiiU. I don't think I'll be double dipping on this one.
A port coming on the 30th of October is our next release. Oh my god Nintendo...............
Look I'm not trying to be negative I promise. I adore the Switch. It's my favorite console in YEARS. (Since PS2) But man are Nintendo just giving me no reason to touch my Switch in 2020. I put 300 hours into AC and with Origami King looking pretty eh, I don't feel comfortable saying my favorite game company with their most successful console since the 90s have a lineup consisting of borderline 10 year old ports.
Come on Nintendo. Drop the Switch Pro or give us future games to be excited for.
Looking forward to an Arlo reaction
That was quite literally the last good Wii U exclusive. rip
More old WiiU games. I bet it will be $60 also... moving on.
I've never played a Pikmin game, even though I have all the systems the originals came out for. Is this a good first one to try?
This may be the first Nintendo game releasing this year that I'll be buying. I know a lot of people were excited with Animal Crossing, Xenoblade and even Paper Mario, but none of these games are appealing to me. As far as I'm concerned this is very much a dull year when it comes to first party releases on the Switch. Let's hope Mario comes save the day!
Not my kinda game, but I'm really happy for the fans right now!
I love the series, but I won't double dip. I hoped at least for a Pikmin Trilogy...
I played this for a couple hours, but just couldn't get into it. Maybe I'll pick it back up at some point. I'm glad that it's getting a second chance on a more popular system, though.
@Swifthom Yea, I also fear the controls will be worse than they were on the Wii U. I really hope analogue sticks won't be the only way to play it. I didn't even realise that was an option when I was playing Pikmin 3 until long after I had completed the game. My nunchuks had an issue so It was frustrating playing with them and one day I somehow found you could use analogue sticks but the experience was sooo poor compared to the analogue sticks that I gave up on the game. Losing the Gamepad screen will be less of an issue to overcome
Weird way of spelling Pikmin 4.
I imagine this having two control schemes. On portable mode, you could be able to use the switch screen to use it as the Wii U's gamepad worked (throw pikmins by touching the screen) I can see it working great using a stylus; and using motion controls when switch is docked.
I shouldn't double dip, but I will.
Nice to be seeing more Wii U ports.
@delt75 Definitely
I'll absolutely double dip for this!! One of my favorite games from last gen!
the game had dlcs? ?
@abe_hikura I doubt this is signalling the end of mainline Directs. It's just that they likely don't have enough content to lineup and produce a big 30 minute presentation due to communications being strained by the remote development for games happening right now. That's why they've opted instead to do Direct Minis and Partner Showcases in lieu of that
Depends on new content. I have this on Wii U already and knowing Nintendo they would charge full price for this. Great great game though.
A Trilogy compilation would easily have made this a must buy.
The old wii u well is almost dry let's see got what 3d world ,fatal frame and xenoblade x left
Never played it on WiiU so I'm happy.
Well, it might not be a wholly new game, but SHUT UP AND TAKE MY DAMN MONEY!!!!! I NEED IT
For someone who has never played pikmin, is this a good a starting point, or should I start with 1 & 2 on gamecube/wii?
@thesilverbrick It sounds like they added a mode where you can go at your own pace. I would consider that "Funky mode", honestly.
Went on the Wii u eshop yesterday. These are Nintendo select games. These are 19.99£.
When games were coming out on the Wii u. I was excited. When games come to the switch I have skipped most of the deluxes except Mario kart 8.
Wii u owners who also own a switch. It’s rough
Rumoured for ages, hopefully if this sells well it may pave the way for Pikmin 4.
This is great!
Can't help but feel like this announcement should have been a bigger deal though? I also felt that way about Paper Mario, they just sorta released the trailer on youtube and that was it ^^
Where are all the people whining about Nintendo’s “worst year, need more directs smh.”
Nice! Now I just need ports of 3D World and the Twilight Princess/Wind Waker remakes, and then I can box up my WiiU for good...
I was literally just trying to find a copy of this for my Wii U. Not anymore!
@Bendu Agreed, this isn’t some casual name-drop, it’s Pikmin.
What a happy announcement to wake up to this morning; wish they’d include the first two games as well to sweet the already delicious pot! Still- I’m happy to hear this and hope we get a few more WiiU ports such as Metroid Prime trilogy, Super Mario 3D World, and Zelda Twilight Princess/Skyward Sword and The Windwaker among others....
P3D, alright.
Nintendo's Holiday 2020 has been saved.
Bring on 2021.
@thesilverbrick you are no mistaken. Without the wiiu gamepad you have less option in gameplay
I've never played a Pikmin game. Maybe it's time to try one out.
Zero interest but at least it's a game. And yes the deluxe label doesn't mean much.
Well I’ve never played the game, but always wanted too. I’m more excited that Nintendo is still releasing Wii U games on switch.
@Cotillion I’m in the same position. Though, if this is $60 I’ll be waiting for a sale.
Never played any of the Pikmin games, so this is a welcome port. That said, I will probably wait for reviews to come in before jumping on this one.
Honestly, i'm kinda glad they are porting all this stuff over from the WiiU. Whenever i've tried to use a WiiU, I just couldn't get used to it. Gamepad just seems really chunky and uncomfortable. Puts me right off playing.
@sixrings Yep! Same stuff, different package. That’s the gaming industry, for you. At least we are getting some good ports though.
Well, it was going to happen eventually.
I already own Pikmin 3, though. It was the first game I bought alongside my Wii U, and it's still very playable on there.
Hopefully this is signalling that Pikmin 4 isn't far off.
Seeing as this is just another port, I wonder what Nintendo has been doing with its time... Star Fox - F Zero crossover confirmed!
So please don't let this be the only game announced between now and October
Don't think I would pay full price again to replay this, but maybe I'll get it on sale sometime. Really wish they had added some new "things" to collect though, like in the first two games. I got a little tired of gathering nothing but fruit after a while.
Huh. Interesting. I’ve honestly never played Pikman. The games this year have been a miss for me. But I’m super happy for everyone who’s been wanting some form of Pikman game on Switch... even if it isn’t 4.
Who knows, we still could get that September Mario... and then a surprise holiday game. With this surprise I’m almost certain there will be a shadow drop for the holiday season. Whether it’s Mario related, I dunno.
@Roibeard64 I would LOVE for a Fatal Frame Collection for Switch and added gyro controls.
Not to be a "glass half empty" person, but...
1) Remasters and versions of games from previous platforms are nothing new. What's more, while Nintendo wants us to plunk down the same amount of money for a Switch version of the same games we played years ago, Microsoft offers owners of current software the assurance of compatibility with future hardware (in many cases, hopefully more to come after Series X launches). Bottom line: as usual, Nintendo is way behind the curve.
2) We're roughly 90 days away from the holiday season being in full swing and as of right now the only first-party offering we've seen from Nintendo is another remake of a Wii U title. Unless a major, full Direct is imminent, 2020 is shaping up to be an absolute disaster for them and the Switch, especially in light of Sony and Microsoft's console launches.
Again, I'm not trying to proclaim doom and gloom or be "ungrateful" for another game announcement, but it's obvious that Nintendo needs more than Pikmin 3 to headline their holiday season offerings. The truth is that they are running out of time, at least as far as 2020 is concerned. If the rest of the year passes without any more major first-party releases, then look for an announcement of the Switch's successor to follow close behind. They abandoned the Wii U in a very similar fashion.
@Roibeard64 Nintendoland, Game and Wario, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Paper Mario Color Splash, and Pushmo World are all still only on Wii U. They may be a couple more we’re forgetting, but yeah, we’re getting close to the full library being available elsewhere at this point.
@Obito_Sigma What?? What are Mario 3D World and Xenoblade X for you??
Day one.
I passed on the Wii U. Meant to pick one up and it never happened.
Happy for all the Wii U games to get a launch on switch:
To those that have gone “port port port” it’s all very dull. Remakes and remasters and “ports” have featured just as heavy on Xbox and PS4 - at least the Wii U games were only open to a limited market. Hardly milking it. These games Deserve their place on the Switch
Don’t like don’t buy simples
@Benhop07 I always say one or three, just because you're discovering Pikmin for the first time through the eyes of your character. But any one of them are good to start with, the old Pikmins hold up so well. I replayed them both earlier this year
@BestNerdLife yes I am pleased too, I skipped the Wii u. I hope they release Windwaker-HD-Deluxe for switch.
Wow more ports, sick of ports and remasters now. Give us something new and original otherwise those switch sales are going to slide by this time next year, I mean the next gen consoles come out this holiday season and so far there is nothing for the switch coming out this holiday season. They need a few system sellers to keep people away from the competition
Especially if all they have for this holiday season are these rumoured Mario remasters, then things aren't looking good (atleast for the rest of this year)
@Jashin I love that little blue guy!
This is exciting news! Trying not to let my hopes for Mario Remasters run away from me though, this isn't proof that they are real, but mayyybee... No, I need to remember this is 2020 and nothing is as it seems. 😂
Omg yes. Never got to play it,so I'm pretty pumped for this.
Another port....
These are really getting less and less impressive.
I’d prefer DLC for Mario kart, Mario Party (whose online is still HELLA ACTIVE, and the game continues to sell well), Splatoon, or any other game than more ports...
If you wanna give us old stuff, then give me the N64 classic.
I guess that's one reason to stick with Xbox. Microsoft lets you play your old games for free
Not really looking forward to paying full price for the additional Olimar and Louie stages. So unless it's €30 or something, I'll skip this one.
@fadedcolors you've had a game which has given you, on average, nearly 2 hours per day (every single day) from release until today. I imagine for most people, that's significantly more than they are able to play games for.
Also, I can't be the only one with a huge backlog of excellent indie titles to play, right?!
@graysoncharles good point. The 'Deluxe' moniker is merely to signify that this is premium and not rehash of an old game. A bit of a money grab, seeing as 60usd should be the price of something that is actually new.
Not inclined to play it ahead of the first two, but another big game finally salvaged from a past-gen home console's library can never be unwelcome news in my book.
@ukaskew my backlog is almost 450 titles by now (not just indies either), and my wishlist is still over thrice as much. I'm unironically mystified by all the people constantly starving for new games on this platform, let alone from one specific publisher.
YESSSS
YESSSSS
Pikmin 3 for me anyway is the best game on Wii u or definitely in the top 3. Am I missing something? Nintendo stated about 3 to 4 years ago that Pikmin 4 was almost made.
They must have held it back so they could milk Pikmin 3. I don't know how they get away with it. When the Switch keeps selling, they can do what they want I suppose.
@Swifthom I played it on the Wii U with analogue sticks and it was perfectly fine. Felt super natural. Though the Joycons do have gyro so they might have an on screen pointer.
Wii U has left the chat
@LetsaGO If all the Wii U owners also own a Switch now, that's only 20% of the Switch userbase (probably less, as I'm sure I'm going by outdated numbers for Switch sales).
I mean, yeah, it does suck for those who had it, but the numbers show why they would keep doing this and games shouldn't be left to rot in history on a failed system. This gets them out there to a wider, substantially larger audience.
Finally beat this game last year. I played the multiplayer modes a bunch when it came out but it took me quite some time to sit down and play the story mode. Being able to play through the whole game in co-op sounds fun but not enough for me to buy it for full price. Now if I could find a pre-order for 30€ like I did back when 3 was coming out, then I'd at least consider it.
It's easy to forget that at most, 1 in 4 Switch owners owned a Wii U. That leaves around 40m people who never owned a Wii U.
I'm not sure what lifetime Pikmin 3 sales were, but I'm assuming it's significantly under 50% of Wii U ownership, so you're probably looking at 50m+ Switch owners who have never played this.
That's why ports are popular.
At this point, Deluxe is slang for Port
Well, I've never played a Pikmin game. So I'm hyped. Bring it on.
@FoxMcCloud "WEZZZZCCHHHEW!"
I was trying to onomatopeize(that should be a word) the sound.
It's a port, but to be fair this is a brand new game for the vast majority of switch owners.
Cool, I’ll definitely be getting it. Never played Pikmin before
@Cotillion If only everyone knew that.
Wait, wait! Is this Nintendo news? About a new (well, old) Switch game? How long has it been!?
once super mario 3d world is on switch nobodys going to touch the wii u basically every good game will be on switch
@KingBowser86 I'm 100% okay with that. Let them bring The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess ASAP.
So another Nintendo Selects title resold for full price?
Day 1, don’t care about the price since I very much enjoyed 1 and 2.
Looking forward to it . Didn’t own a Wii U, so I was hoping this would get ported.
"featuring Olimar and Louie"
Sold.
Poor Wii U gets yet another nail in its coffin though. There are only 7 more major games I can think of from it that haven't been ported:
Color Splash
Xenoblade X
Starfox Zero (would need some reworking to work without the gamepad).
3D World
Wind Waker HD
Twilight Princess HD
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse (never played this, but I think it used the Wii U gamepad pretty heavily so I don't know if it would get ported, same as with Starfox).
At this rate, my Wii U is gonna be a Wii and SNES machine only.
I'm all over this. Love my Wii U but bring all the Wii U games over to the Switch (3D World please)
@tanaka2687 Well.. Paper Mario just released.. so..
Yes! I hope they bring the other games to Switch too
wish they remade all 3 ... but this will suffice
I guess this means they expect the third party releases to carry August and September? My guess is that the pandemic really has affected their output a lot more than they’ve let on.
I suspect that Zelda was supposed to be their holiday block buster title, but I suspect that development on that could be crawling during the pandemic. I won’t be surprised if 3D world ends up being the Holiday 2020 title. I’m sure people will complain a lot, but it is a great game and it could move a ton of units as a Christmas title.
@CooperFrank these ports make me think Nintendo is done with compilations. They didn't include dkcr when they released dktf. Nor did they include new super Mario Bros when they sold us new super Mario u bros deluxe. I'm pretty sure metroid trilogy is a pipe dream too. One release at a time is Nintendo's way.
Never played Pikmin 3. Loved the 1st one. Didn't finish the 2nd due to backlog. Guess I'll try it this time!
Better than nothing. Not much better, but still.
Excellent will be getting this even tho pikmiin dying makes me sad. New difficulty options yay xxx
I never played a Pikmin game before, so I'm half excited and not. Probably will give it a try.
Nice to see this confirmed.
@TG16_IS_BAE This changes nothing. 2020 continues to be one of the driest ever, it’s still yet another overpriced port of the worst kind (enough new content so that you’re missing out if you played the original, but not $80 worth), and there’s probably not going to be another direct for a long time even though E3 was cancelled and we haven’t had one in almost a year.
@ukaskew Oh come on, have some standards. Be excited. Show enthusiasm. You know you want more games.
Another port of a game I already have, why not a Pikmin 4? I’m tired of them releasing Wii U games!
@fadedcolors Origami King is awesome, you have no idea what you're missing. And this is a port but it's also a great game. Barely anyone owned a Wii U, so it's basically a new game to most people.
@Friendly Yeah, good thing Nintendo is supporting the people who didn't support them last gen.
So if they are just releasing trailers for upcoming games...then that means hypothetically that big scale Nintendo Directs are done this year? We haven't even had one yet! This pandemic is starting to ruin all hopes for a major Nintendo Direct.
I shall remove this from my 'games to rebuy on eBay and replay' wishlist for now.
@Steel76 if this does well, which it should, then they probably will/are
A bit of a disappointing announcement, IMO. No slight on Pikmin itself but when we're desperate to see some quality reveals from Nintendo, a re-released Wii U game just doesn't really cut it.
Why not announce this in their most recent Direct? I don't get it.
@delt75
Pikmin 3 was my first Pikmin game as well and I didn't regret it.
It's a good start into the franchise.
Yay! Pikmin is such an awesome series and I'm happy it's coming to Switch soon!!!!
I’ll just turn on my wii u and play that one. Save myself 60 quid. Would love to see nintendo develop a few new franchises.
This was leaked around the mario remakes also
I hope we’re getting closer to the windaker hd port eventually
Good news: Pikmin is a great franchise that deserves more recognition.
Bad news: It seems more and more likely that big Directs are a thing of the past.
Good news: Maybe Xenoblade X is next in line for Wii U ports.
@Euler 15-20 games a week on the eShop = driest time of the year. Yeah sure bud whatever you say. Just because that ONE game you’re holding out for isn’t out yet doesn’t mean it’s a dry year, give me a darned break with the entitlement issues, people!
The WiiU gets buried even deeper...
This is cool and all, but – especially as I‘ve already played it on Wii U – I certainly won’t be spending £49.99 on Pikmin 3 Deluxe.
However, that’s a statement I certainly won’t be making if/when Super Mario 3D World, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker and Yoshi’s Woolly World eventually come to Switch!
I think this is a great announcement and am super excited to see it come over, but I'm going to be really curious to see how it will control and whether the slightest difference of analogue controls/Wii pointer will make the Wii U version stand out as the superior version along with The Wonderful 101.
This reinforces the rumours about Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy remasters/remakes as separate releases or as a collection. The rumours never confirmed if they are separated or a collection except for that Reddit user.
Sigh....so I basically have to double dip lol
I don't care much about Wii U ports because i have every important Wii U game already but good for all those that don't.
I got pikmin 3 on my Wiiu for free, can't remember why. I should really check it out
Great, another game I already own on the Wii U
.... looks over at Wii U versions of Breath of the Wild, New Super Mario Bros U, Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta, Bayonetta 2, Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, Hyrule Warriors, Lego City Undercover, Pokken Tournament, Tokyo Mirage Session #FE, Assassins Creed Black Flag
Yep, no need for me to get a Switch just yet, I'll wait for Star Fox Zero, Yoshi's Woolly World, Xenoblade Chronicles X and smegging Project Maiden before there's enough "new" games for the Switch!
@BlueOcean You guys can't just take an announcement at face value can you? It's always 'maybe this means that <insert game title> is being remade/ported'.
@LetsaGO exactly. I get that this is good business for Nintendo. It this news is a total yawn fest for me. I bought MK8D bc they made it worthwhile for the extra content and gameplay. DKTF for chill mode. But otherwise, there hasn’t been a WiiU port that interests me or makes me want to double dip.
1080p? Maybe 60fps?
Or is this a true 1:1 port and they did not bother to go beyond original resolution and framerate?
Really enjoyed this game, but I still have it on Wii U if I want to play it again.
This possibly means the rumored Mario 3D collection is a holiday title. While it may not be exciting for everyone, that will sell like crazy.
@Teksetter
It basically didn't.
@Nintendo_Thumb Well Nintendo are certainly charging it the price of a new game.
the graphics sucks
I didn't get a Wii U. Still seems really strange to have such a slow, late roll out of Wii U ports.
Edit: glad something is getting released.
@WoomyNNYes they use the Wii u ports to fill in holes where they don’t have any new games coming out. Makes sense to just stretch them out.
@Divinebovine There was a Mario Kart 8 promotion that offered a free game if you purchased Mario Kart 8. Now Nintendo resells the same games as "Deluxe".
Yeah, see this is great news to me but I just hope it’s not goin to go for $60 because the game was way too short for me on Wii U. If it’s 40 I’ll get it again but I cannot and will not spend $60. If you haven’t played it yet, $60 isn’t necessarily too bad but for a double dip, no way!
The game is extremely fun and totally worth your money and time but for us veterans it’s ... a bit more difficult.
Also, if they bundled 1 and 2 in there, THEN $60 is worth it.
Sweet! I never got it on Wii U!
@Mr_Pepperami True. You're right. Guess I'm still disappointed at lack of VC.
Was hoping for a new full 4. But this is the next best thing and I'll be buying it day 1. Love this.
Nintendo knows what they're doing. When the time is right they'll strike with all sorts more than this. This year has been a mess to trek through.
I'm giving up this year when it comes to Nintendo. I love the switch and am what I have played most in 3 years. Sure these are weird times with corona, but Sony has not let down when it comes to games anyway. 3rd party games have been what has been pretty good on the switch this year. Nintendo, however, completely deplorable, just animal crossing which was really good and appealing. Pikmin3 wii u port 31 oct, omg what happens aug and sep?!?. Then I'm sick tired of Nintendo releasing almost exclusively games that are cute and cartoonish when they have so many good ip that are more "adult". Where in all is metroid, punch out, fzero, eternal darkness, wave race, kid icarus, Mother, star fox, fatal framme, star tropics, excite bike, wario, advance wars, Nintendo land.
Nintendo is the auntie who just re-wraps the present from last year and MAYBE gives you homer simpson slippers because she once saw you watch the simpsons
Btw the fans are the mums who tell you to say thank you anyway
Switch is becoming the biggest joke of a Nintendo console ever!
So much potential wasted!
People who owned a wii u have been ripped off
So now I can sit back and wait for Twilight Princess HD Deluxe right?
So, on the one hand, this package doesn't sound too bad all-in-all (especially if co-op truly wasn't available in the original); on the other hand, this likely means Pikmin 4 isn't likely to come out any time soon (I was kinda hoping it would be their 'cute March title' [for lack of a better phrase] of 2021, following on from Animal Crossing, Yoshi's Crafted World, and Kirby: Star Allies, but I guess that's probably not gonna happen).
A 7 year old Wii U game I already own, but I can own it again at full price for a minor update. I think I'll pass like I have on so many other Wii U, I mean Switch games that I already own. I wish I could get some new games, but I guess it's good that other people are getting the opportunity to play.
@LilMuku Nintendo is the auntie who just re-wraps the present from last year
The auntie who charges you 3x the cost for the present.
So this will take care of Nintendo's big fall release. My guess is that the Mario Remasters will take care of the Holiday season big releases. I think everyone would prefer brand new experiences but with Covid-19 throwing monkey wrenches into everything, I personally think this is better then nothing. I've never owned/played any of the Pikmin games. However, I'm doubtful I'll pick this up either. As for the Mario games, I would probably buy them all depending on how "remastered" they turn out to be.
Oh happy day, oh happy day!
I couldn’t be more excited about the co op campaign. The wife and I enjoyed the co op missions so much in this game and always talked about how cool a co op campaign would be if they ported the game. We never thought they would add it. I hope the control options are good, we felt the Wii remote was the best.
I don't mean to complain as this is obviously good news, but it is yet another port from a console, that if you owned it, you likely played it. The vast majority of 3rd party games are ports of old games as it is, I think it's fair to expect some more original content from Nintendo, than we've been getting.
No new Mario Kart or Donkey Kong until probably next gen, a Yoshi that wasn't as good as the previous, a Kirby that was average at best.
If the big games for the rest of the year are just Pikmin 3 Deluxe and Super Mario 3D World, I'll be disappointed. 64 and Galaxy remasters can save the day, despite them being yet more old games. But if I'm being honest, it's not enough for me.
Since the incredible opening year, the only 1st party games I've bought are Mario Tennis, Links Awakening and Luigi's Mansion 3. I loved all three but technically, only Luigi's Mansion 3 is a brand new experience. If I didn't own the Wii U, I'd be loving the first party content but I did and played most of the games. I put countless hours into BOTW and MK8, played through SM3DW, Bayonetta 2 and DKTF twice, played SSB4WiiU and Mario Maker so much, I couldn't be bothered with the sequels. So yep, these last 2 or 3 years have been disappointing from Nintendo, as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry for the rant. After saying I don't mean to complain, I done a lot of complaining.
This is fantastic news. Hope it has the Pikmin animations they released on Wii U too.
@nhSnork I agree, its like these people only play first party nintendo games.
I already sold my Wii U copy anticipating this. Looking forward to playing this again.
I feel like i've seen this movie before:
Why it is so dificult for a company this big keep in regular touch with their costumers?
Why dont they plan ahead a release scheadule? Even before a console lunch, this guys should be able to have a plan ahead (2 or 3 at least) years in advance: planning first party realeses, securing 3rd party games, work with outside studios on exclusives and nurturing indie relationships, those are the big studios of the future.
It is frustrating to say the least, selling 8 year old games at full price... get your act together Nintendo, its like you learned nothing on the wiiu era 🤷♂️
I’m not gonna buy it again.
I’m not.
Hahahahaha who am I kidding?!
Nintendo Land would be another great port (would need to use multiple Switches for some of the party games).
@RainbowGazelle Well, they actually delisted Pikmin 3 on the Wii U eShop, so you can't buy it for $20 anymore.
So you can't complain it's cheaper elsewhere
Happy for those who haven’t played it yet, but honestly I’m hoping for a bit more from Nintendo. It feels like new releases have slowed to a trickle and while I understand COVID is impacting things, surely they had a pipeline of games long in place. I would’ve much preferred seeing a Pikmin 4 announcement alongside this, even if the release date is TBD or uncertain.
@Yorumi It would certainly be nice to see more original content, wouldn’t it?
Great game, but don't think I wanna play it again
So... I guess this count as something new, right?
@Kirgo Thanks!
@Crono1973 What a stupid ***** comment.
Want to see my collection to see ‘who supports Nintendo the most’ or something?
@nhSnork I agree. I have been saying that for a while now that people should take advantage of this covid situation and focus on their backlogs. We can't be the only ones. I don't even play indie games and I still have a big backlog mostly rpgs like fire emblem 3H and dragon quest XI S. people are never satisfied. Lol
@AtlanteanMan exactly! I almost feel like Nintendo is turning in homework from last year and and expecting to get an A.... and nobody will notice.
yay! ! !
this was one of my favorite Wii U games. an absolute treasure.
love the Olimar missions and the return of piklopedia ! I missed that in 3 and loved filling it out in the 2nd game.
My only concern is this is one of the Wii U games that was heavily built around the Wii U GamePad, I'm very curious how they translated over everything without parts being lost. I would love to get this I just will have to wait and see gameplay of it.
@sixrings Maybe you're right. But unfortunately this strategy is making me (and lots of other fans, I suppose) more and more annoyed.
@delt75 It is! it was my first pikmin game. I loved so much I ended up buying the previous two games. is now one of my favorite game series. But if you have a Wii U, i'll say just get that version. cheaper and the gamepad is perfect for this game.
@WreckitRyan Xenoblade chronicles x will pretty much complete the list of faves needed on the Switch. I'd obviously like Wind Waker too ^_^
Hey at least this version is portable. You know how valuable that is when we're all told to stay home. Great deal.
@KingBowser86 It makes sense 1/5 of the switch users owned a Wii U and that’s assuming that everyone who owned a Wii U bought a switch which didn’t happen so it makes sense to port all of the good games from it.
Great news! First Pikmin game for me.
@Octane delisting a game and making you buy it at a higher price is 100% business. Although I do believe part of being a good business is making sure to keep your fans happy. Nintendo seems to see how far they can push them and when it all hits the fan they release news about how good they are for how little they get paid.
So... Mario Remasters confirmed?
@sixrings Yeah, but I don't know. In an era when Sony releases plenty of €40 titles, and when MS even offers older games for free. I don't think that €60 ports fly well anymore. But maybe I'm mistaken. It's a pretty low move though. Selling it full price on the Switch it one thing, but removing the game from the Wii U eShop to force people to buy the expensive version on Switch is another.
Already have Pokémon 3 on Wii U so I won't bother since Wii remote controls are my favourite for Pikmin. Hope Pikmin 4 will be coming, wonder how well this one will sell now it's being released on Switch.
A new Paper Mario, Pikmin 3 DX, Super Mario 3D World DX, and Super Mario 3D Collection (containing remasters of Mario 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy) were rumored toward the beginning of the year.
The first two have now happened. It's only a matter of time before the next two happen.
The big concern now is whether Nintendo will release anything major in September or November. My speculation has been that the Mario 3D Collection will release in September to coincide with the 35th anniversary of Mario, while Mario 3D World DX will release in November as (one of) Nintendo's big holiday game(s).
However, announcing Pikmin 3 DX for a late October release makes me question whether Nintendo is going to release any game in September. It would suck if we had to wait until late October for a new release (that is an enhanced port of a 7 year-old Wii U game).
@Octane i agree but so many times when Nintendo screws their fans the defenders come out with the "it's business" defense. The fans are all over the place. They hated ports when p4 did it. Now we're begging for them. They loved complete games and hated dlc. Now people have either accepted it or are begging for Mario Kart 8 Dec. They hated paid online and mocked PlayStation and Xbox. Now there answer is well we need servers and those cost money so it makes sense. Next month xbox will reveal free online and somehow on here there will be someone who criticizes the move. Why can't I use my Wii u pro controllers on my switch? Why did we make fun of Rrod but are ok with joy con drift claiming those who got the drift were abusive to their system. Maybe I am grumpy but it sure seems like there's a lot of justification for anything Nintendo does. I'm happy the game came out. I do think it's a bit overpriced. Why couldn't it have clubhouse 51 pricing?
Im just happy xbox got beat up so bad this generation that they are doing anything and everything to bring back players. Free online, free upgrades, no masters, 4k options, 1080p options, backward compatible, play anywhere, use whatever controller.
@Teksetter Kirby and the Rainbow Curse was pretty much "gamepad required" as was Star Fox: Zero. Should they figure out a way to make those viable on the Switch (which I suspect is inevitable at this point), yes, the Wii U will officially disappear as generation.
@thesilverbrick There's also an enemy encyclopedia, all DLC included, achievements (I guess), extra story content, extra control options, and probably most importantly (to me at least) the entire game is now playable in co-op mode.
@TG16_IS_BAE Nintendolife actually crunched the numbers. They don't lie, they make the so-called Wii U/3DS drought look like torrential rain by comparison. 2015, the plurality choice for Nintendo's "worst year ever", had 34 Wii U and 3DS games. 2020 has 9, soon to be 10. And still no E3. I don't know why expecting regular updates when all other companies are doing it is an entitlement issue, but hopefully those boots taste good to you.
Nintendo delisted the game on the Wii U eShop so we know that the 'but very few people own a Wii U so this is new to them' defense is BS. Obviously Nintendo is afraid that there are plenty of Wii U owners available to buy it for $20 instead of $60.
When does the preorder go up???
Those a-holes should just have done a trilogy pack. But of course they opted for the easy road, just a Wii u port.
By the way: All those Wii u ports are a kick in the face to the few people who bought a Wii u (like me). I guess with this game Nintendo filled another month, hurray!
@rjejr

@sixrings Lovely post. Thanks for saying it.
Not surprisingly an old port announcement for a game still three months away. It seems as though we are getting one game per season.
Yes lots of us would like to play Pikmin, Pikmin 4. Not one we have already played with a few bits added including a full price, tag. A budget title I could understand, one that fills a gap between new games, not a port that replaces a new title.
Cool, but would kind of prefer the original.
@Yorumi what you're saying is there are people who say "it's ok when Nintendo does it."
It's more than that, it's NIntendo fans using the same excuses they condemned Sony and Microsoft fans for using.
@ralizah Soooooo..........do tell me more about that amazing 2020 for Nintendo. I'm all ears!
Another Wii U port?
I understand that Nintendo may have issues releasing games from here on out because of the pandemic. I completely understand that and the safety of Nintendo staff and their families should always be put before video games, but it is a bit disappointing when what does get pushed out is just another Wii U port, which the Switch already has far too many of.
I am a little surprised by how many have not played a mainline Pikmin game before. I suppose if you skipped the Wii U, then the Wii would have been your latest opportunity.
I haven't played any Pikmin, but in this case if I was interested I wouldn't have to double dip and have the same game twice (aside from the extra content), because I don't own the Wii U version.
Having said that, our poor Wii U loses another exclusive and soon there will be no reason for anyone to delve on this old system. It's actually sad.
@westman98 they will announce a game in September for the Christmas Holiday.
@fadedcolors Too much complaining.
@Euler I’m not defending Nintendo by calling out your entitlement. Not my fault you have insatiable desire for the next new thing. Meanwhile, you’re criticizing others for being the boot lickers, while you can’t simply be patient and wait for a new announcement?
@abe_hikura I assume it's less "big Directs are done" and more "I guess there's still more content than I expected from the Summer 2020 Direct they probably canceled because of COVID".
Iirc there were still semi-recently confirmed online presentations of other companies that had to be canceled/delayed because COVID stuff meant they couldn't get critical segments of the production teams behind the videos. At the end of the day it's not as simple as shipping webcams and mics to developers. They involve separate filming / recording crews who were likely just as much hit by the whole stuff than everyone else.
@TG16_IS_BAE once you call people entitled you shouldn't expect people to say... you know what you're right... a sarcastic response is more likely.
Personally I'm titled of being called entitled after buying a new console to play new games
@Cosats Stop being a fanboy, it's not 2007 anymore.
@Harmonie on the other end the Wii U did so poorly that these ports may be the only way some of these titles can reach new players that could never have experienced them without having to hunt for what will increasingly be bespoke legacy hardware as the years will go by. Especially as the WiiU's failures will mean there will only be that many of these legacy consoles to go by for someone actually dedicated enough to try hunting an used one out, unlike more successful consoles like the DS or Wii.
@NEStalgia ???
If you're not one of the minority of people who bought a Wii U, this is effectively a new first-party title.
Besides, I never called it "amazing." I said, to date, 2020 has been better first party-wise than 2018 or 2019, and I continue to stand by that assessment. Almost everything good from Nintendo launches near the end of the year.
@Ludovsky So why did Nintendo feel threatened enough by the Wii U that they delisted this game on the Wii U eShop?
@Ralizah If you're not one of the minority of people who bought a Wii U, this is effectively a new first-party title.
This logic is asinine. There are plenty of Atari 2600 games that I didn't play but if they released a port today of one of those games I wouldn't call it a 'new' game. Some of you will say anything to defend Nintendo.
@Ralizah They should release Mother 3 for $60. How many people have played that game? It's effectively a new game for many. I should work for Nintendo
Randomly I wonder if we're not seeing part of a pattern atm.
2017 saw the Switch launched with ssince big hitting new titles.
2018 meanwhile was more mellowed and focused mostly on smaller titles and ports only picking up with Smash during the holidays.
2019 afterward saw a ton of IP including very successful ones like Fire Emblem and later the very successful Pokemon Sword/Shield alongside amounts of jRPGs that hadn't been seen on a TV-compatible Nintendo console in generations.
2020 meanwhile is a mix with the wildly successful Animal Crossing but otherwise smaller releases and ports... so far as we don't know yet what is still unnanounced for now.
@NEStalgia Thanks. Over 200 comments and I was feeling left out. And there's only like 2 people in here - before you - who's name I even recognize enough to bother with. Not buying the game, already own it on disc, Wii U still hooked up to the TV. Actually I bought my Wii U 2 weeks after "Pikmin 3: DLC Costs Extra Edition" released. I think it was the day after the W101 demo released back when Nintendo had Directs on a regular basis and they didn't suck.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/08/talking_point_the_wonderful_101_direct_and_demo_set_the_standard_for_wii_u_marketing
So, about that "nearly complete" Pikmin 4? I suppose it does make good business sense to release this first for $60 before officially announcing Pikmin 4. That may actually been why we've been waiting all these years for Pikmin 4, porting Pikmin 3 was harder and taking longer than they thought.
@Ludovsky I really don't care. People chose not to buy the Wii U. If they wanted to play a game, they should have bought the system it came out on.
I understand that sometimes ports happen, and they are beneficial... but Nintendo just keeps on doing it over and over and over again. To the point that those of us who were Wii U owners are finding new titles to play rather sparse.
@Octane @Crono1973 I'm not defending anything. Just pointing out that, for the vast majority of Switch owners, this is a title they've never had the opportunity to play before.
I'd say comparing same-gen console re-releases to GBA/Atari 2600 games is what's asinine.
Slightly old but upgraded games get re-released on new platforms all the time. I don't remember people getting in a tizzy over The Last of Us Remastered or the Skyrim PS4 remaster. Or the Nathan Drake Collection, for that matter. It was smart of Sony to re-release those on PS4, and it's smart of Nintendo to re-release Pikmin 3 on Switch.
Looks like I'll be getting a Switch sooner rather than later! Really wish 1 and 2 were bundled with this (and I really wish it were Pikmin 4) but I'm not complaining. But I'd be down for more DLC if they released it for this. Got all the DLC from the original and perfected every mission. Looking forward to this!
@Crono1973
For starters, the Atari 2600 is a tad bit older than the Wii U.
Not to mention that the Atari 2600 was actually a somewhat successful console that many people bought (at the time), unlike the Wii U.
@Ralizah Your logic is: If you haven't played a game, then the port is a 'new game' for you and I don't see why it's original generation makes a difference. You never said 'my logic is limited to last gen games only'.
Objectively, Pikmin 3 port is NOT a new game. Stop trying to make it seem like it's anything more than a port.
@westman98 Not to mention that the Atari 2600 was actually a somewhat successful console that many people bought (at the time), unlike the Wii U.
Confusing isn't it? That Nintendo feels threatened by an unsuccessful console so they delist this game on it. Obviously they are worried that there are alot of people out there who have a Wii U and can still buy it for $20.
@Ralizah And if you're a long term Nintendo customer who did own a Wii and WiiU, the only thing Nintendo is offering is the same games they already sold you years ago. I realize from a "business" perspective there's more Switch owners that didn't own a WiiU than did. I'm not saying this game shouldn't exist. However, rolling out ports of the prior gen system, 3.5 years after that system was retired is a pretty strange calendar. This should have been out in 2018. And we've known Pikmin 4 was finished since 2017 at least.
It's not so much that the game exists on Switch at all that this is a problem, there's good reason for it to exist. The problem is its years too late, the fact that a lot of the first party Switch catalogue is just WiiU's catalogue, and that going into Holiday 2020, the only game we have any kind of release date for is a port of a WiiU game 3.5 years into the new system, arriving nearly November.
Imagine if Sony's big PS5 game for Holiday 2024 is Detroit: Become Human: Deluxe?
EDIT: THIS is why you don't buy consoles for the first party exclusives...... I'm playing lots of games on Switch in 2020. ONE of them is a Nintendo game.
@Yorumi They're not actively punishing WiiU owners. They're simply revising history so that it never existed and nobody owned one.
Like VirtualBoy.
This is a nice surprise though I wish they were rereleasing the first two
@Agramonte It costs more than $200 to play it on Wii U. That means it would be a 70% discount to play it on the Switch. Sounds like the sort of sound financial decision you'd approve of.
I hope they improve the way the game end where it forced you off the planet after beating the final boss rather than the person you speak with asking - OK, there is still a lot of fruit to collect, would you like to do that before taking off?
Being forced off the planet, and having to go back to a previous save point, knowing you have to redo the entire 3 day boss battle to see the credits again, was such against the grain of common gaming decency to this day I still have only gathered about half of the fruit on the planet.
So let this be a warning to anyone playing on Switch - before going to the final boss battle and taking 3 days to beat it, go back to all of the other locations and gather all of the fruit first, the game doesn't, or at least didn't 7 years ago, give you that option at the end once the final boss is defeated.
I'd highly recommend for those who never played it. Its a enjoyable game. I will not be double dipping though, still have it on the Wii U.
@NEStalgia That would be pretty stupid considering Detroit: Become Human will be playable on PS5 anyway.
Like I pointed out, Sony did the EXACT same thing with some of their PS3 exclusives. Why shouldn't Nintendo do the same with Pikmin 3? Although, if anything, there's more of a call for this port, since WAAAAAAAAAY more people bought a PS3 than a Wii U.
Also, this isn't their big holiday game. Their big holiday game is likely going to be a collection of Switch ports of even older games.
@Crono1973 Most people, I imagine, only care if they had the opportunity to play a game before. They don't automatically write off anything because someone, somewhere, had the opportunity to play a game in the past.
I stand by what I said: for non-Wii U owners, Pikmin 3 is effectively a new first-party release on Switch. Not great for Nintendo loyalists, but, based on how well the Wii U sold, I assume there's not a ton of them out there anyway.
@Ralizah All of those games were cheaper though. And TLOU Remastered even included the DLC as well. And I don't think their last gen counterparts were removed from the digital PS3 store either. They are still available (for cheap) today.
Pikmin 3 was a €20 game for ages. Had this been €30-40 I would've had less issue with it.
@Octane https://www.polygon.com/2014/6/22/5832024/last-of-us-remastered-release-date-preorder-price-drop-refund
TLOU Remastered released at $49.99. And, yes, it included all DLC, like Pikmin 3. Except Pikmin 3 apparently has exclusive content as well.
I don't know why you're talking about them delisting the Wii U version, though. I never mentioned or defended that.
I'm very much leaning towards 'likely getting this' at the moment; the Piklopedia is certainly a welcome feature (as was the cherry on the cake for Pikmin 2), but am curious to see how touchscreen controls fare in handheld.
I'm not one to play on TV much anymore, even if I much loved the Wii U version's Wiimote + nunchuk control scheme.
@NEStalgia Oh, BTW, appreciate that gif, well done.
@sixrings Oh, I’m not going in anticipating anything rational, lmao
@Ralizah It's not a new game, games that are 7 years old are objectively not NEW.
I don't know why you're talking about them delisting the Wii U version, though. I never mentioned or defended that.
That is indefensible.
@NEStalgia They're not actively punishing WiiU owners.
By delisting it they are actively punishing Wii U owners who don't own it yet.
@Ralizah "Also, this isn't their big holiday game. Their big holiday game is likely going to be a collection of Switch ports of even older games."
Nice. On a serious note, has Switch had many collections?
Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2 seems like an obvious choice considering 2 is practically DLC on the same engine. I think they could turn a profit at $60 for both. I'm not even sure what else there could be, Nintendo isn't big on putting out lots of similar games, Galaxy was somewhat unique in that regard.
I do hope Switch gets a new game this holiday though. I'd settle for BotW2 at this point. I would have thought Bayonetta 3 would have been a better choice the day before Halloween, guess that isn't happening this year now. Still waiting on ports of "Sunshine", once analog triggers gets figured out, and "Skyward Sword", the only main Zelda game to have ever only appeared on 1 system, the Wii. Neither of those are new though. Not expecting Metroid Prime 4 in 2020, maybe not 2021 either.
What else ya got for holiday 2020? Surely I'm forgetting something.
@rjejr Pikmin 3 always felt incomplete to me. It was great while it lasted but ended so rapidly. Maybe this will fill it in more but...it always felt like a partial Pikmin game to me. Great while it lasted, though!
I miss the old days. The old Directs with Pikmin. MK8. W101. Switch is, by far, a better platform than WiiU was, but Nintendo was so much more fun to be a fan of back then. I always feel like I'm buying yesterday's leftovers with they way they operate now, even when it's something brand new like Paper Mario.
@Ralizah Well aren't you just a champion of every anti-consumer business practice ever conceived of....
You owe me $37.95 for this response. I accept PayPal.
Sony's remasters released at cut prices, included DLC, launched in the early years of the console, not half-way through the cycle(!!), and people can accept remasters filling in the early catalogue of a new console. Not a deeply established console. Pikmin 3 in 2017, 2018? Sure! Time to bring that old non-BC catalogue over and get handheld ability, that's cool. 3.5 years in? We're looking at new hardware in the next year probably and we're still filling the library mostly with last gen games?
Also, that's pathetic if their big holiday game is even older ports. That said, I think a true remaster of a very old game like 64 or Sunshine has more place than a previous gen remaster as an announcement. Dragging an old game and redoing it in a modern way so it's not lost, stuck in ancient tech limitations has some value, and requires building it anew. Porting something from 7 years ago just to sidestep the BC limitation but otherwise looked and played.....pretty much the same is lest justifiable.
Switch is my favorite console of all time, overall, but lets be real, it's running on 3rd party as hard as X1 right now. Heck 2 of the games I'm playing most right now on Switch ARE Microsoft games. Switch is having such a first party drought my most played games are the first party games of my OTHER consoles.
Nintendo has, literally, gone back to do a "do over" of the WiiU. Erasing it from existence. That would be fine if doing that were in addition to all the Switch games, capturing missed sales from the WiiU era. But they're doing a do-over in such a way that they've decided to just sell WiiU as Switch, blowing off anyone who did own WiiU and instead of offering much new, just selling "first half of 8th gen again as the second half, too." If you take both WiiU and Switch as "8th gen" consoles (from a tech standpoint they're the same generation, roughly similar in power, with Switch being kind of WiiU Pro X") they're selling the same games twice in the same generation to the same people. INSTEAD OF other new games.
That's what has people upset. If we knew this was coming along side BotW2, or MP4, etc....ok, cool. But the appearance right now is that this is instead of that. We hope you enjoyed Pikmin 3 for Holiday 2013. We hope you'll enjoy Pikmin 3 for Holiday 2020 as well for the same price! Thanks for buying Switch! SALE: Ori.
They may surprise us and have a bigger game available, but at this point, even if they have a content win, they have a serious marketing fail.
@Ralizah €50 for a year old game that was €60 + €15 DLC. And it got a graphical overhaul as well.
This should've either included all three games as remastered versions, or it should be half the price IMO.
And yes, there is new content. And that part sucks, because you can't play it without buying the whole game for full price again. Though if their other Wii U ports are anything to go by, it won't be worth the asking price anyway. But it still kinda sucks.
@Crono1973 Good point!
@Octane @Ralizah
Meanwhile anyone who bought an X1X got an update patch for a bunch of games free - and some of them might get another update patch free on XSeX as well. MS: Buy new hardware, get upgrades to your content included! Sony: Buy new hardware, run your old content still, if it's more than 7 years old, buy it again at a discount price. Nintendo: Buy new hardware, buy all your old content again at the same or higher price as when it was new!
EDIT: Miles Morales is starting to look like a bargain....
this is foreshadowing the rest of Nintendo's 2020 line-up nothing but ports of old games and maybe Braverly Default 2 and that's it
@Ralizah how has 2020 been a better year for first party switch games? Apart from animal crossing and snack world, and maybe paper mario there's hardly been any other good first party games from nintendo
Using the virus is an excuse to hide the fact that they really didn't have anything else but ports to bring out this holiday season. Wouldn't be surprised if BoTW2 and Metroid 4 are 2022 games at this point
@NEStalgia when you put it like that, that is a pretty crappy move by Nintendo and to make matters worse their first party games never drop in price. Luckily for me I rent 90% of my games
@delt75 for me Pikmin 2 is the highlight of the series. It really felt balanced perfectly
@playstation_king 2018 and 2019 were incredibly slow before September or so. First party-wise, we've gotten more substantial first-party releases in 2020 than we did in those years. I would have killed for an Animal Crossing-tier experience in the early parts of those years.
@playstation_king maybe they like 540p games?
@NEStalgia "Anti-consumer" is a buzzword that doesn't really mean anything. All corporations exist to make money. If they're doing well, they'll try to fleece you. If they're not doing well, they'll do stuff to try to draw in more customers. Microsoft suffered a pretty crippling blow with the Xbone after they got high off their 360-era success, so they're trying to draw in new customers for the Series X. Recall that Nintendo was pretty generous with the Wii U when it didn't sell well early on, like when they let you download a free game alongside a purchase of Mario Kart 8. They also had some sort of reward program for digital purchases of games, from what I recall.
@Octane Pikmin 3 will likely run at a higher resolution on Switch like every other Wii U port, I expect. I'll wait to see how worthwhile this new content really is, but the presence of new exclusive content makes it more worth repurchasing than any of Sony's ports, IMO.
The updates to MK8D, Hyrule Warriors DE, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions were worthy of repurchases, IMO. Less so with their other ports. Captain Toad kind of annoyed me since I felt like the Switch exclusive DLC should have been included by default.
@Ralizah in my opinion before 2020 we had, Botw, splatoon 2, Arms, mario kart, fire emblem, mario odyssey, xenoblade chronicles 2, links awakening, kirby, yoshi crafted world, astral chain, smash bros, pokemon sword/shield, pokemon let's go, mario and rabbids, mario tennis aces, luigis mansion 3, marvel ultimate alliance 3, mario maker 2 and Mario party
Compare that to what we have had this year? Animal crossing, paper mario and xenoblade (remaster)
There are far more people here complaining about Pikmin 3 getting yanked off the Wii U eShop than there are people who actually intend to buy the game off of the Wii U eShop in August 2020.
I'm being serious - the number of people who are buying Wii U games off of the eShop in 2020 are likely in the double, maybe single digits.
@playstation_king I mean... you're lumping three years of support together against the first half of one year. lol.
Compare Jan - July 2018 OR 2019 vs. Jan - July 2020 for a fairer comparison.
This year, we've had:
Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics
Paper Mario: The Origami King
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX
Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore
Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition
Yay, another Wii U port which I have played...
Sorry, still convinced this year sucks for Nintendo so far (in my opinion).
I never really cared for Pikmin, but I would love more Wii U ports on the Switch. The Zelda remasters and Xenoblade Chronicles X are a few of the last titles worth porting. I would love to play these games again! My Wii U died on me a few years ago, and I never went through the trouble of fixing it. Here's to hoping!
@Ralizah Animal Crossing and Paper Mario. That's all the new content I can think of this year. That's a thin year. Yes Xenoblade remaster, etc is good content we all wanted (note, a Wii port, not a WiiU port...and total remaster.) There was MUCH more content for others. It sounds like you're enamored by Animal Crossing. Personally as a huge AC fan, it feels like ACNL remastered but with tons of infurating garbage design added that actually detracts from the experience. So if ACNH doesn't tickle your fancy, it's a VERY bleak year. Though it is rivaled by Smashyear.
Sure, anti-consumer may be the goal of all business. But that's the point. You're CELEBRATING the bad as though thrilled to get fleeced by the success of business "I'm part of Team Winner!"
@Ralizah "The first half of one year" my foot. They have nothing announced, and this is a late October launch. That means anything else is sure to be a Nov/Dec launch.....and they haven't announced anything. Now, if they show up and say "BotW2 December 19 2020" they actually have a big content win hidden. But they've already poisoned the well for the fans......we're in August with not a single game that we're aware of beyond a shadow drop of a prior gen port and a rumor of an older gen port collection.....and not even another rumor. Even if they fix the content so there's a genuine original launch for Holiday the marketing image is bad either way, in true Nintendo fashion. We're not talking "half of one year" We're talking about 10 out of 12 months. If they don't wow in those last 2 months....that's bleak.
$60? Oof. I guess thats another old port im not buying. Trilogy would have made this worth buying for me for that price but Nintendo isnt the most consumer friendly and are pretty greedy nowadays compared to the past where they would do a Prime Trilogy.
I’ve never played a Pikmin game before so I’m really looking forward to this.
@jikflet Thanks! I was wondering how much not having a gamepad on the Switch would come into play?
@NEStalgia ???
I'm not celebrating anything. Unless you're referring to my defense of Sony's exclusives strategy. I think it's smart and essential to compete with exclusive games. Nintendo does the same.
Anyway, I can't speak for their Sept. - Dec. plans apart from Pikmin 3. They've been holding their cards close to their chests, so who knows what they have planned?
@TG16_IS_BAE Ah, so it's just a matter of complaining about other people complaining on the Internet not an actual defence of anything. Good to know.
@Ralizah yes but 3 of those are ports/remasters and the only game announced so for for later this year is also a port, and the rumoured Mario ports/remasters.
I think most people are just fed up of ports and remasters and slapped with a full price tag, in terms of new games it's not looking good
Not interested in the game, but just the fact that Nintendo dropped news that are big to most fans gives me a huge feeling of relieve.
I'm a little disappointed that they are releasing Pikmin 3 deluxe in place of Pikmin 4. whats next? deluxe editions of the other two Pikmin games. or better yet, maybe Pikmin 3 will get a DLC later on so that it gets turned into the "Pikmin Trilogy Deluxe".
if the other Pikmin games make an appearance on the Nintendo Switch. hopefully they will have additional content as well. Pikmin 2 does need co-op multi-player for when playing through story mode. hopefully they will add three player co-op mode in Pikmin 3. being able to do the three crashing landing segments at the same time would be nice.
@playstation_king I'm definitely not a fan of Nintendo's silence regarding the rest of the year.
At least I'll be set for 2021 with two SMT games and a new Ys game.
@Ralizah I agree hopefully BOTW2, Metroid 4 and Bayonetta 3 release next year
@playstation_king BotW2 and Bayo 3 seem highly possible. I wouldn't count on Metroid 4, though, considering development had to be restarted. I'm expecting, like with FF7R, that there's going to be a rather prolonged wait for it.
My guess is they want to keep quiet because they are going to be announcing their 2021 line-up soon'ish and potentially their next gen switch. AI up-scaling is going to completely blow peoples minds when they see what it can do in real time to improve video quality.
But they still havnt added in a left handed mode. FFS Nintendo, sort it out!
@Kidfunkadelic83 Everyone is ambidextrous if they try, a good way to attain this is growing your grey matter by juggling stuff and balance related activities and exercise.
This is good news. I’ll be happy to own this game again and try out the new features. I really liked the final boss in this one. If we can just get Mario 3D world, windwaker, and twilight princess I’ll have all the Wii U I’d want.
🥱😴 meh. Give us metroid prime, mario or zelda remakes/ports 🙏🏻
@KoopaTheQuick No. Nintendo is reiterated many times that the pandemic has not affected their 2020 releases. What you see is exactly what they had planned, pandemic or no. It's 2021 that they say could be affected by the pandemic. Meaning it could get even bleaker than this!
Or Nintendo's consistently lying out their rear ends. Which is equally possible, but doesn't exactly do much to improve anyone's opinions of their 2020 outlook.
@Ralizah The combination of defending Sony's and Microsofts "anti-consumer" practices (it's maybe a buzzword, but refers to any policy designed to unfairly minimize or even provide negative value to the consumer through leverage of market power over consumer choice) comes across as celebrating getting screwed over as a good thing. Which isn't uncommon among the gaming fanbase for some reason.
Not Sept-December plans. This tells us their next "plan" is the very end of October. So only the Nov-Dec plan is up for grabs now.
I knew this year would be thin due to PSXBox launches, but they seem to be the only company out there with very little to show, and a refusal to indicate anything. Maybe they're wating for PSXBox price announcements and preorders to offer their challenge. But it doesn't take deep thought to see that the more PSXBox talks about their plans and Nintendo comes out with basically "we've got nothing", the better the competing offers start looking....
Nintendo took the game down on the Wii U shop where it was $20, just like DKCTF.
@Ralizah I don't know. If there's no new content, it's a lot easier to ignore. They put in new content, knowing very well the fans still want to play that, but it's probably content that can be finished in an hour, but it's locked behind the rest of the game. That's kinda scummy in its own right. It would be fine if they offered it as a standalone thing though. But I don't expect that to happen.
As a Wii U owner, I pretty much got all the first party titles. This Switch generation feels like a lot of waiting until all of that is ported over for the good stuff to come. The Switch is probably going to be the Nintendo console of which I own the least amount of games if this trend continues.
But they haven't even committed to any 2021 release dates. Who's to say they're not going to screw us over, cancel Metroid Prime 4 again, and make Breath of the Wild 2 a crossgen/next-gen release for 2022 with 2021 being another sparse year (actually sparse, not 2015-sparse)? All they have to do to reassure people is come out with a big direct as they surely had planned for E3. So far they've chosen not to do that. Why? Of course, the bootlickers would still defend such a practice if they did it.
@delt75 I would like to know as well. Believe me, game pad on Wii U was perfect for this game. some people prefer wii remote, but for me, using the stylus and game pad screen to trow pikmin and gather them around was a perfect experience. its one of the best examples of WiiU game pad done right. also having the map all the time and see where is everybody without having to pause the game. can't imagine playing it on switch after that. also, im not sure if they will change campaign mode. it says full campaign can be co-op. but you re all alone at the beginning of the game. you only rescue another character one or two days after. we'll have to wait and see.
@playstation_king nintendo said they will show Mario 35th collection at later date.its at the end of the post
@NEStalgia You contextualize the leveraging of exclusives as these companies "screwing over" people, which I don't. Pretty much every non cross-gen PS5 game we've seen so far looks like it wouldn't run well on the base PS4 anyway.
New games come out, and you have to buy more powerful hardware to play them. It has always been that way with console games. And like I've pointed out, by the time most of the stuff Microsoft is developing releases, it probably won't support Xbox One anyway. So, apart from a game or two, Microsoft will end up being as "anti-consumer" as every other company by forcing you to upgrade to play their games.
Anyway, RE: Nintendo, they'll have something next month. I'm guessing they'll probably publish Bravely Default 2. Or No More Heroes 1 + 2 Remastered. Or something like that. Probably revealed at the next partners showcase.
Anyway, I'm not prepared to discuss a lack of support for months that haven't happened yet. The rest of the year may very well end up sucking. We'll have to see.
Well I for one am very happy to see this, and it makes me hopeful for picking 4, to me it makes sense to drop this before releasing a new one. I did own it (it was actually my first dip into the franchise) and enjoyed it, but didn’t finish it and ended up selling my WIi U and all the games to fund buying the Switch.
I think people need to relax a little, if people enjoy the games being re-released and are happy to pay the price then so be it! A lot of the ports have been new to me games, ones I missed out on at the time of their initial release and it’s never bothered me one bit buying them now. Gaming is my chill out time, I’m just happy to see games I know I will enjoy playing being put out. I also don’t see this being the only thing to appear this year.
@jikflet Good info! Thanks! I may actually try to go find a cheap copy of the WiiU version of it now. haha.
$60 is beyond a ripoff for a port with very little new content. Nintendo can shove this
@Euler Calling our BS when I see it, is more like it.
Pretty excited to check this out and see what all the fuss is about
@Mando44646 $60 is beyond a ripoff for a port with very little new content. Nintendo can shove this
Well they no longer offer the original game so.....
@Ralizah SMT is salvaging the Nintendo lineup......Sega still does what Nintendon't.....now on Nintendo's own hardware!
SMT on Switch. PSO2 on XBox. Persona on PS4.......it's like Sega never got out of consoles....
Seriously, though, Switch still gets the most play time of my consoles because it's the most versatile hardware and has plenty of 3rd party content for a change. But Nintendo's own offerings.....it's growing ever clearer we're in that late Wii era, just earlier. It has enough 3rd party to coast on, the competition is doing new hardware, they're thinking new hardware, and thinking of how to string things along on Switch and store up the games for the next hardware.
RE Sony, it's not about "new games that need new hardware" but specifically about MM alone and fan reaction to it versus Halo Infinite. What they did with that particular game is scummy. The game is a PS4 addon. it doesn't "need" to run at max settings to run. They're just requring that to leverage Spiderman to push new hardware, not because the game design requires it to be so, despite that it's not an actual sequel. I get mad at the company pushing that, but get more angry at the fans actaully celebrating that as a good thing rather than what it is: A company shoehorning and hostage taking of content to "require" a hardware purchase that the content otherwise didn't require and shouldn't have required, simply to leverage the brand power to strongarm an upgrade. It's good business, but it still ought to be condemned as offering negative value.
As for Nintendo: We can talk November or December potential. We now know the next scheduled date is end of October. September and October are spoken for as far as first party goes. Maybe they change that, but there's no precident them adding a launch date ahead of an already announced launch date. They always go sequentially. I can't imagine them publishing BD2....Squeenix is perfectly capable of publishing their own content. No More Heroes, possibly, though.
I can't imagine they really don't have SOME big game for the Holiday unless they're lying about not having pandemic influenced delays. They can't seriously expect to have NOTHING big and weather the storm of 2 new consoles well. But if the messaging gets any worse this might as well be the WiiU years. Bad messaging, lack of content, and all the games are WiiU games.
@everynowandben Starfox zero and guard too but like Nintendoland, game and Mario and kirby rainbow paintbrush are too wii u pad heavy I would think to be ported. ( much as I loved Nintendo land)
Oh and Amiibo festival but that's unlikey
I should also add I think this game adds insult to injury in particular. The first time it released it was the ONLY major game filling the void of a tremendous drought. So every WiiU owner HAD to buy it, it was the only major game to buy and we'd waited months for it!
And now amidst a huge Switch drought with no end in sight (announced) it's the same darned game they're trying to quench that drought with! It's like swallowing the same bitter pill a second time. It taunts us.
More ports! Wohoo!!!
@NEStalgia
I wouldn't rule out a September release (yet).
Nice I finally get to play a Pikmin game
@Jokerwolf maybe true but the only thing ive ever been annoyed at by being left handed was pikmin3 so im not that botheted about learning now 😂
Not what I hoped for. I would like 3D World to make it to the Switch way more!
That's what we have for October?
Pikimin 3?
Where's the 4th entry already announced ages ago?
And August and September games?
My God what a year....
Not my cup of tea and honestly getting a little sick of ports at this point. WiiU ports aren't terrible just because that console was doomed so giving those games another shot makes sense. But still waiting for something new. I know at some point we will see Bravely Default 2 as its scheduled to release sometime this year but so far thats all Im looking forward to right now
@NEStalgia
"Squeenix is perfectly capable of publishing their own content"
You'd think that. And yet, Nintendo published: Octopath Traveler. Dragon Quest Builders + Builders 2. Dragon Quest XI S. So I'm fully expecting Ninty to publish a big exclusive like BD2 in the West as well.
"SMT is salvaging the Nintendo lineup"
Not really. That's coming next year. Nintendo might be dropping first-party bombs by then. Who knows?
"it doesn't "need" to run at max settings to run."
There's no reason anything can't be re-conceptualized to run on weaker hardware. In your hypothetical consumer-friendly universe, we'd still be awaiting new PS1 games.
If it makes you feel better, I'm expecting there to be some fast loading gimmickry to show off the speed of the SSD, which wouldn't be possible on PS4. Sony is getting increasingly Nintendo-like in terms of designing games to showcase new hardware gimmicks. They're also Nintendo-like in terms of how quickly they stop supporting some of those gimmicks (the DS4 touchpad is basically their miniaturized answer to Wii U's GamePad, and, like the GamePad, it barely got used at all).
"And now amidst a huge Switch drought with no end in sight (announced) it's the same darned game they're trying to quench that drought with!"
Didn't Paper Mario literally release a few weeks ago? The future might be uncertain, but there's no drought.
@Cyrax77 It's coming. I guess there will be a Mario Direct next month.
@BlueOcean oh right! I remember now, cause I bought MK8 without even knowing about this promo, then was super surprised
@NEStalgia I'm really enjoying Parper Mario. Sure, the battle system is weird. Heck, it's a disservice to "battle systems" to even call it a battle system, it's a match-3 or Zumba puzzle game, but still I find the game very fun, hard to put down, and I'm always trying to go back to it. I'm about 30 hours in, probably about half-way I'd guess.
It's basically "A Beginners Guide to JRPG Making: Every Trope in the Book".
It's WAY better than Color Splash, Sticker Star, or Paper Mario on Wii. Probably not as good as TTYD but that was 12 years ago and I can barely recall anything about it beyond I liked it.
So I'm giving Nintendo Paper Mario as their big "late May summer game". ACNH was their winter March game. This is a port so no go for me. If we had some other big games to look forward to - say Bayonetta 3 late August or early Sept, BotW2 in Nov - this wouldn't be too bad of a year. If it ends w/ this port and another port or 2, yeah, I'm w. the "worst year ever" crowd, and I owned a Wii U but not a 3DS. Wii U had some good games. Sparse, but I don't think this sparse. Wait, I take that back, they were released this sparse, but we always had something on the horizon to look forward to, that Nintendo would delay again and again and again - ie Zelda BotW. Of course they also had some bad games like AC:aF and Starfox Zero along the way. But I'll take Nintendo Land over 1 2 Switch any day.
The fact that people are even having this conversation, whether Wii U had worse years or not, Wii U years were also some pretty good 3DS years from what I am told. Switch is all-hands-on-deck Switch. Maybe the only person making new Switch games is Gulliver? (That's an ACNH joke.)
Awesome, I cant wait to pay full price for a 7 year game becuase Nintendo wont stop price gouging the market then wonderes they they slowly slip into irrelevency due to pure greed.
YES!
I actually preferred Pikmin 2 but will obviously gobble this up!
(Hallelujah, a major first party Nintendo game announcement for Q4)
1 issue for me here though is that I loved the wiimote pointer controls when playing the series. I wonder if they will maintain the option here?
Good news, Pikmin 3 is a great game. Glad it won't be stuck on Wii U anymore, this one definitely deserves to be enjoyed by a larger audience.
The end of October for a port that has been finished and sat on for almost a year.
Can 2020 just end already?!
And I'm genuinely not criticising Nintendo - I trust they are doing whatever they can.
Hopefully they'll sell some copies of Pikmin 3 now and it won't be a huge financial disaster for the company. Perhaps they can make it profitable now and we can get more Pikmin in the future.
And people criticising Nintendo right now... they've released 4 or 5 games and an ambitious LEGO collaboration during a pandemic. I get it's frustrating and we'd love to get an update on their big titles... but it's a difficult time for everyone. Nintendo make games. They will release games.
It's a good thing that they are porting WiiU games even though I am not interested in buying the ones I already own. If I didn't get this during the Mario Kart 8 promotion back in the day I would be super excited.
These surprise announcements are fine but I wonder if there will be a Direct in September as they have been doing for a few years. I'm guessing that Paper Mario and Pikmin 3 were going to be announced at E3 along with the games during that mini direct.
It's getting frustrating not knowing what's coming with all the rumors of Pikmin 4, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Mario Anniversary Collection, and so forth. Are the going to release more Switch online condoles soon to keep people renewing their subscriptions? I really hope they have been working on getting a September Direct ready.
@graysoncharles you mean the Nintendo can handle itself with Indies. 3rd parties are quickly leaving this system unless again you mean ports.
I will buy this game. I will enjoy this game.
@sixrings Nintendo going into the next generation with the Switch is kinda like them competing against the Sega Genesis with the Game Boy.
I really want Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Switch.
@Crono1973 sadly for us that might be their strategy. Sadly that strategy also worked against the Genesis.
Meanwhile, the Wii U version got delisted as soon as this one was announced. Where’s the article reporting that, Nintendolife?
@TG16_IS_BAE @Euler Boot-licking, in my mind, is bondage to another, in particular a more powerful party. I'm not sure I want to interpose myself in the conflict you two are having - for me, it is the frenzied attitude of fans, their seeming dependence on Nintendo, that truly disturbs me. This corporation is not our friend. I actively avoid depending on them as mediator of my hobby. If they are not producing any games that interest me, I look elsewhere, without anger or disappointment - and I say this as someone who advocates for a revival of F-Zero and Wave Race. It's OK for Nintendo staff and management to be human and have a difficult time. It's not a crime.
@rushiosan this is a fan site. Actual news is posted on Nintendoeverything hours if not days before.
Despite owning a Wii U, Wii, and GameCube, I’m ashamed to say I’ve never played a Pikmin game. This is 100% going to be my first one. I’m also really excited about the addition of story-mode co-op. There’s a good chance I’ll be moving into my brothers place soon so this would be an awesome game for us to play together! The extra missions are just icing on the cake. I’m stoked for this!
Looooooootta heartache around here lol. Kinda glad I skipped wiiU at this point.
@COVIDberry As I've said elsewhere, I'd have more sympathy for the "tough time" argument if they'd just come clean and tell us that they're having trouble because of COVID, need to keep their employees safe and healthy. Then say that some games will be delayed to 2021 but actually announce them, show trailers, have real release dates, etc. Empty virtue-signalling about how everything is fine and they plan to support the Switch for years to come isn't that.
@Crono1973 it feels that way. As far as games to play, I have plenty to play on this system as well as others. But honestly, I am losing interest in Nintendo with all these ports that I owned on the WiiU. The Mario remasters, if they come are cool for me since I never played them. But I am not tremendously fired up about playing decades old games at full price. It just seems lazy by Nintendo.
It's wonderful how (as far as we know), Nintendo's flagship holiday title is an overpriced remasters of a seven-year-old game. What a great year for them.
@NEStalgia Excellent points. To me the Switch has never been able to escape the shadow of the Wii U. We're halfway through its lifecycle and the Switch is still trying to find its own identity.
Do the textures look worse than on Wii U? Or am I just misremembering?
Ports, when reasonably priced, are my friend and your friend. It is altogether cheaper for me to purchase Pikmin 3 on a system that I actually own, isn't it?
@Ralizah I've re-read your comments in this thread, and I find the level of aggression in the responses toward you very surprising. I can better understand this if they're angry about Pikmin 3's de-listing on the E-shop - that is a genuinely disgusting move.
@NEStalgia I'm still wading through all your comments (I thought I was long-winded), but I would like to humbly request an explanation of your reasoning concerning the release date of ports. Why must they come in the first year? Why are they suddenly invalid or unenjoyable after that?
@COVIDberry if you're referring to me and ralizah, that's not aggression, it's a continuation of a week-long conversation across multiple threads. We go at it all the time When we agree we agree super strongly, and when we disagree we get this....but it's all in good fun Same with @Yorumi...when we agree, like here, it's strong agreement, and when we disagree we go at it for days....think nothing of it
It's a matter that ports are normally used as a transitional tool between generations to pad the gaps and delays and onboard some poor performing content that the prior audience didn't get to engage in. It sweetens the pot for fence sitters that skipped the prior outing to join the new one. Introducing them this far into the cycle is just odd.... Had it been alongside other new content that would be background noise, but as-is they're releasing prior gen ports, mid-way through the generation, as the main attractions....... As-is Switch is getting defined by its ports more than its own games. It's just absorbing WiiU to become "the Nintendo console" starting in 2012 even though it didn't release until 2017 so it acts as a retrospective of the last 8 years rather than a current, new-ish console. So much of its "new" content is from prior to its own launch now.
@ralizah I forgot about them publishing DQXI in the West. Which is weird to say the least considering Squeenix seems to be publishing the same game on X1 and PS4 themselves....
Maybe that's part of the bargain. We'll do time limited if you publish? It's strange.
"Nintendo might be dropping first party bombs" Sure....right-o. I hope so but my unicorn is landing soon so I'll have to finish that thought later. Seriously, I'm aware they might...but I'm not too optimistic given what we have in front of us.
As for MM, it's not about "conceptualizing it" to run on weaker systems. That is not a game ground-up designed to run on the new spec of hardware. It's, quite literally, an add-on to the previous game, built in the same engine with the same tools and the same resources......with some bolt-on VFX to "show off" new hardware. It's a cheap way of getting "next gen content" by just adding onto the existing graphics. They could have taken GoW and remastered it with those new VFX as a "launch title to showcase PS5." The game doesn't require the hardware by definition. They just added on effects to "require" it. It would be like releasing a PC game, removing the effects sliders so that you HAVE to run it with full options, and saying "Requires SLI." No it doesn't. They pulled out the scaling to sell you hardware.
Nintendo and Sony are in a race for cost minimization at maximum net profit. That doesn't deserve praise.
I'm sure the SSD performance will make it run better regardless of demonstrating it. Then again, that would have worked on the BC version too
I don't know that Sony's getting more into the gimmick demos...they've been into that for a long while. I expect it from them. Though they abandon their gimmicks faster than Nintendo I think. I wonder if PS5 will even have gimmicks? That seems like a holdover from "old Japanese Sony" not "Hollywood Sony."
Paper Mario is one of two whole new games to release this year! And the other one only launched in 2020 because it was a delay from a 2019 target.... It's like a waterballoon on the moon as far as drought enders. (And no, I'm not counting Xenoblade, Pikmin, etc. Again, good games, glad they're getting released, but the remasters do not count toward resolving an absence of new content. They compliment and fill out new content. Imagine if Ubisoft's entire calendar year were a city management sim, Child of Light 2, and a bunch of AC remake collections. People would start calling them EA...
@rjejr That's good to hear about Paper Mario. I'm saving that as my "traditional new Nintendo game for Christmas" because I assume there just isn't going to be another one. I liked but didn't love Color Splash so that's a good omen.
Of course the games released this sparse during the WiiU years. It's the same games! We're literally reliving the WiiU but with third party support. Switch = -=NEW=- WiiU!
That's the thing. No hype. Nothing on the horizon to look forward to. It's better because this time we do have a bunch of third party and don't have to wait just for Nintendo games. But as far as actual Nintendo games, it's really bad. It's just WiiU minus 3DS. And during those years 3DS was, by far, the lead console. It was amazing. Tons of Nintendo games, plus third party games. Atlus, like now, was saving the day. And the worst WiiU years were filled with 3DS content.
I never thought merging handheld and console meant just sticking with the lame console release cycle. I get it, business wise, they're going back to the NES. They didn't make many games, and the money came from third party royalties. This is really what their goal always has been. But I also think losing Iwata brought us back to the bean-counters in charge. But it sure is boring being a fan. They still have the same problem they had with WiiU and they haven't fixed it still. They never figured o ut how to be an HD operation. They were used to designing everything in house in small teams. With HD they needed to massively staff up, but instead of doing that they just outsourced everything. So now with the pandemic, the outsourcing to China, Russia, and India is not quite what it was....boo on Nintendo for going the EA cheap route.
Maybe your be able to play with 1 joycon and the game uses the motion controls on it that would be awesome.Or they could include both joycons but hopefully it will have a single joy con mode
Never played pikmin game before i am a olmar main in smash mite give this one a goo.
@NEStalgia EA gets crucified on here for porting FIFA legacy edition. Nintendo is releasing Pikman Legacy edition and the same people throwing stones at EA are begging Nintendo to take their money.
This game looks so good. I need to replay it.
Why didn't they release a compilation of all three games instead of just the third? There's nothing really that screams Deluxe about this port. Still going to double dip for the portability factor.
@KingBowser86 I don't blame them either, the Wii U was a mistake to begin with. Releasing all its games for Switch is like healing the wound. The people who missed these awesome classic will finally get a chance to play them.
Each and every company rereleases each and every game on a lot of other platforms.
But Nintendo gets flak for rereleasing games that are stuck on an underappreciated Platform. Games that deserve better.
I don’t get it.
I'd have more sympathy for the "tough time" argument if they'd just come clean and tell us that they're having trouble because of COVID...
@Euler Haven't they, already? Perhaps they need to amplify the message - but I am sure I read something about that on this site... in the shareholder meeting notes, perhaps?
Then say that some games will be delayed to 2021 but actually announce them, show trailers, have real release dates, etc.
I cannot argue with you here, because I do not understand Nintendo's communication strategy. I was nursing a theory that they were going to defer announcements as much as possible to increase the impact of a Mario HD remasters/remakes, given the (expected? inevitable?) delay of BOTW 2. Now, I'm not so sure. Having said that, I am certain that the announcements for 2020 releases, be they for ports or new titles, are not finished.
@sixrings it’s the same experience as pikmin 3 on Wii U. Not a legacy edition.
@retro_player_77 the WiiU was just caught in between at a bad time as far as technology, not to mention non-existent marketing.
I don't blame Nintendo for re-releasing at all. I just wish they either gave those who supported the Nintendo a price break- don't they have a record of our purchase if we registered on myNintendo? Or added more content, even if it's Pikmin 1&2?
@rockodoodle this is my point. Wii u owners got screwed. My Nintendo account shows that I had bought this game digitally in the past. Would it really hurt Nintendo to give it's Wii U owners who owned this game a discount or a free digital copy. I'm happy for those who get to experience it a first time. I'm happy anything is being released. It doesn't change that Wii u owners, who were the most loyal to Nintendo, got treated pretty poorly in this transition. Xbox on the other hand are doing their best to treat their loyal xbox one fans with dignity. At the end of the day though this announcement wouldn't sting nearly as much if it was announced along side anything new
This is all well and good......BUT WHERE'S MY NINTENDO LAND PORT?!
@delt75 it was my first one, and I absolutely love it
@COVIDberry Burying that in a shareholder report (rather than in a direct as they did with Animal Crossing) after claiming there would be no delays sort of makes the case for me.
https://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-again-comments-on-impact-of-coronavirus-including-development-and-releases/
What... just... happened...
I'm so amazed that I will only say something unrelated here:
Still looking forward for a new presentation.
Happy for the fans but then again... A freaking 60$ port of an older game. It’s baffling.
Burying that in a shareholder report (rather than in a direct... sort of makes the case for me.
@Euler Fair enough - and I want to reiterate my lack of understanding when it comes to their communication strategy. In the March mini-Direct, they advised in text that announced games could be delayed, but they did not use the opportunity to cool expectations further. I am not surprised, though. This company has had a very controlling, centralized aspect since Old Man Yamauchi's tenure.
Given their secretive corporate culture, I am additionally not surprised that they would leave "business details" like their near-term release schedule out of a Direct. NCL seems to think it needs to channel the Wizard of Oz - never letting you peek behind the curtain*, never taking your mind off the "magic"/"fun". Some consider that condescending, I know.
(*And yet, this same company released, of their own accord, videos on the making of BOTW. Strange...)
Good for Pikmin fans that wanted this, but I am not, so I couldn't care less.
@COVIDberry Right there with you.
@Dringo it sold 1.2 million. How much would a game like this cost to make? At $60 a pop that’s not chump change. I can’t imagine this game costing more than a couple million to make. $5 million tops.
@SeantheDon29 a lot of Nintendo Land wouldn’t translate to the Switch, obviously, but I would buy a similar game, even if certain aspects of it were ported over, as long as they included a decent amount of content.
I’ll wait for a Switch sunset sale unless I get super desperate or something come October lol
@NinChocolate as a WiiU owner, I am a bit frustrated with this release. At the same time, I could see myself succumbing to temptation on impulse. I bought MK8d.... that was a nobrainer. Tropical Freeze for chill mode. Rayman Legends just because it was so cool. I have passed on all the other ports. I hope impulse doesn’t get the best of me.
Hmmm. Not for me. Hope there will be a new nintendo game this year. So far only paper mario for me...
Might almost be worth considering double-dipping. It was a great game on the WiiU. I wonder how it'll work without the separate screen that was used as a very handy realtime map (assuming I am remembering it correctly). Maybe I'll have to hookup that WiiU. Hmm...
Day 1 purchase, baby!
@Euler remember when Zelda was delayed and they had a whole direct mini purely for Iwata and aonuma to apologize to everyone personally?
Now we get "everything is fine, there are no delays, nothing to see here...."
Even if the reality is "we can't manufacture enough units so we won't release games that will destabilize sales"... Just.... Say that?
And if manufacture is so bad, why are Sony and Microsoft pretending they're selling new consoles in November?
Only a couple of more ports left before I pack my Wii U away for good.
@abe_hikura theres a rumor that theres suppose to be a big direct coming this month focusing on big titles for switch.
Removing the Wi U game from the eshop is pretty harsh I think.
Pikmin 3 was one of the best games on Wii U. This is a very welcome port, I’d love to play it on the go.
I'm happy for everyone excited. I've never played this or know about it so maybe I'll be excited too. But man why has Nintendo been releasing everything but what I love (Metroid, Zelda, Mario) this year?
Just not a fan of animal crossing, Pokemon or this but I understand the business decisions.
This is exciting news, for me. I have it on Wii U, but I don't have a lot of time to play games on a stationary console, so I'll definitely double dip for the portability and extra content. I really hope this means that the Super Mario 3D collection is actually coming. I'm trying not to get my hopes up over rumors, but that's one I'd really like to see happen.
I own the game and DLC on Wii U, nothing is being added to Switch version to inspire me to purchase this. As for the delisting, didn't this happen with Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze and everyone freaked out until it was put back on the Wii U shop?
@JimmySpades That is like the new guy trying to sell me a hot dog for $30 because the guy down the street has it for $50. Just different levels of "not worth it".
Sound financial decision, is just shelving the Switch again and buying a new game on another console.
@Octane Damn. Nintendo's logic is foolproof.
Heck yeah! Don’t care about you port whiners! This game is one of my favorites, and I’d be glad to play it again on my Switch. Again and again! I’m glad the rumors were true. I just hope Pikmin 4 is still on the way eventually.
@Obito_Sigma Mario 3D World is still an exclusive
@Mfreddy22 We were absolutely spoiled when we got both Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey in the same year; however that is an exception to the rule. That was 2017; just three years ago; it takes upwards 5 years to fully plan and develop a AAA title these days. We also got Mario Maker 2 in 2019. BotW 2 is probably close (because they will undoubtedly reuse assets and code from the first one) but good games take time, and when the developers also have to deal with Covid 19 and everything that entails, people really need to lower their expectations this year.
I do believe the Mario remakes/remasters are going to be revealed soon though, but maybe not in timely fashion for the holidays.
On the Metroid front, I believe Prime 4 is going to be a long ways away now; like probably a launch title for Switch 2. But hopefully they can at least remaster the Prime Trilogy.
@COVIDberry Well, apart from NES (we banter like this all the time), I imagine people are just frustrated about Nintendo's weird lack of transparency about what's coming later in the year. The BIG GAME dropping in October being a Wii U port is just salt in the wound to a lot of these people.
Personally, this is why I own multiple platforms. I always have something to play.
And, of course, as I pointed out, this game will be new to the vast majority of Switch owners. It's going to sell amazingly well, like almost all of their Wii U ports have.
Even if a minority of nerds who live on the internet are frustrated, public enthusiasm for the Switch brand is as strong as ever.
@NEStalgia
"That is not a game ground-up designed to run on the new spec of hardware."
Even if MM started out as planned PS4 DLC (I don't work for Sony, so I can't say either way), it was probably decided early in development to bulk it up and release it as its own game. Like Torna.
You really have no basis for asserting it should have been on PS4, other than the fact that the base game was released on PS4. Clearly they want this new Spider-Man game to headline their PS5 launch. Nothing wrong with that, and, as I've said elsewhere, asserting that cheaper, shorter games are somehow not "real" strikes me as gate-keeping. I rather like this new phenomenon of short campaigns that blur the line between DLC and retail releases.
"I don't know that Sony's getting more into the gimmick demos...they've been into that for a long while. I expect it from them. Though they abandon their gimmicks faster than Nintendo I think. I wonder if PS5 will even have gimmicks? That seems like a holdover from "old Japanese Sony" not "Hollywood Sony."
It seems pretty gimmicky. They've blabbed non-stop about their superfast SSD, and the new Ratchet and Clank seems very much like a tech demo to show off what it's capable of. There's some sort of 3D audio support that they've talked about. And the Dualsense controller (I'll never get used to that name) has its own version of HD rumble in the form of improved haptics.
Nothing as impressive or totalizing as the Wii/Wii U/Switch gimmicks, but far more gimmicky than previous systems. PS1/PS2 were VERY function-first systems, and apart from CD/DVD playback, there was nothing to them I'd consider gimmicky.
@rockodoodle
$5 million tops? This was an AAA title upon release. I would guess a conservative minimum would be $20 Million. Quite probably substantially more. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Pikmin 3 lost Nintendo money in its initial run.
Now, whether this makes it "right" to release an old game at full price when it's been sold on the cheap, I don't know. I think that's something the customers will decide on. People tend to vote with their wallets, that's kind of the gist of market-economy, right?
I love the Pikmin games, really happy to see them continue but also starting to regret owning a WiiU. I should have just skipped a generation
Still, it’s Pikmin and although it’s sitting on my shelf already I’ll likely pick it up as I just can’t help myself.
So, it is becoming grossly apparent that Nintendo was the most impacted by COVID. I love them. I’ve owned just about every system they have had, and I really enjoy the Switch.
However, Animal Crossing aside this has been a miserable year for them. Two remasters, board games, and a Paper Mario is what we are looking at.
They skipped the whole virtual E3 thing. They can’t restock their console. No mention of any new games. The rumors we’ve heard have all been for new versions of old stuff.
The saving grace is they can lean on the pandemic, but come November, their competitors are trotting out new hardware. They are running out of time to put something together.
I’m disappointed. I love them, but I don’t like them very much right now.
@Mykcir bless your heart
@Antraxx777 I agree and hope you are right. Would love to see MPT soon. Also would be great to see any of the Zelda HD ports come to switch too. Fingers crossed on Mario Remasters this year.
@rockodoodle AAA games at £5m? Not in about 15 years. Practically 100 staff worked on Pikmin 3, over a protracted development period of 4 years. That’s over £5m in salaries alone, before we factor in localisation, marketing, distribution, taxes, tech... treble it and you’ll be some of the way there.
There are indie games with a £5m budget
@fortius54 The view of business analysts is that launching a $500 games console in the middle of the worst recession we will have ever experienced is going to be very hard. The enthusiasts will rush out (which they were always going to do), but everyone else may hold fire. The comparatively cheaper Switch might fare a bit better.
Switch and Switch games are selling incredibly well. It’s a bit boring for us Nintendo fans, but they’re not remotely in trouble.
@Ralizah I think by Gimmicks, it’s not tweaks to the controllers or tech that we are talking about. But VR, Move, Wonderbook, EyeToy... PlayLink.
That sort of stuff
Gah! Nintendo is so boring right now. It's been a really slow year for new 1st party games and we've been waiting for what seems like seventeen years for a Direct to see what's coming out and we get this, Pikmin bloody 3.
Even ports of the two Zelda games would have been more exciting then this. This silence from Nintendo is just plain annoying now.
This is nice for those who have a Switch but not a Wii U, however I still say those who do have a Wii U are better off with the original version of the game with its much superior IR pointer and stylus control options.
@Obito_Sigma Even if you don't count "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U" (due to the similar 3DS version), or "Splatoon" and "Super Mario Maker" (due to their sequels making them almost completely obsolete), there are still some good Wii U exclusives left including "Nintendo Land," "Xenoblade Chronicles X," "Super Mario 3D World," "Wii Sports Club," and "Sonic Lost World" Besides, the word "literally" shouldn't be used with opinion-based statements, anyway.
@Dringo alright, even if it's substantially more, the game on the WiiU was hardly a financial disaster as the OP suggested. 1.2 million sold at $60 a pop minus development expenses is still pretty solid.
That said, as a business decision, this is obviously the right move. It won't surprise me if this goes past a million too
@Crono1973 I guarantee Amazon and Gamestop offer the original game for $20 though!
Can anyone confirm---will the game be playable ONLINE for co-op missions and campaign? I played a TON of this on WiiU, and am reluctant to rebuy it. But if we could have ONLINE support for the challenge mode (the co-op challenges are really tough, and you basically need a second player) i might consider it......with COVID, i dont see much Couch Co Op in my future.....
@rockodoodle It's not as much as you think. The actual sell-in price of these games is around $30 - 35, as duplication, replication, distribution, retail margin etc... come into it. Nintendo don't need to pay their own licensing fee, granted. But $60 is not pure revenue for Nintendo.
In addition, that 1.2 million number seems very unlikely to me. It's based on Resetera analysis. The famitsu numbers for Pikmin was less than 200,000, as was the NPD numbers, and the game sold terribly in the UK. There are places like France where these things do ok, but not to tune of 600,000 units...
@NEStalgia "Of course the games released this sparse during the WiiU years. It's the same games!"
IDK, felt like more back then. Probably just 4 years of waiting for Zelda hype I suppose. MAybe I just had lower expectations back then b/c of the lower install base. W/ a 60m install base and no 3DS to support they really should have a big game coming out every few months. Ports should be almost monthly. But thats' always big Nintneod's way, whether it's amiibo or games, bare minumum, make money off the quality and demand, not quantity.
So really what it boils down to, even if Wii U had years as bad as 2020 for actual game releases, there was always way more excitement w/ Wii U b/c of Zelda BotW and Starfox Zero hype, until we all realized SFZ had weird controls.
I have read several other comments, here and elsewhere, that Nintendo just abandoned 2020 b/c of PS5 and XSeX, but I don't see it. All I see is secrecy and incompetence. What has Monolith been working on since XC2 Torna DLC released 2 full years ago?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/05/monolith_soft_took_care_to_avoid_impacting_its_new_game_while_working_on_xenoblade_remaster
Where is Pikmin 4? It's not Let's Go! Pikmin, he said so after that game was announced.
So. Much. Frakkin. Secrecy. It's amazing they have any fans left.
@fadedcolors That makes sense, they should charge full price since it will sell at that price and make them the most profit. It's just supply and demand, you only price something what the public are willing to pay, and generally people are willing to pay full price for 1st party games, so that's the price they get. Nintendo is in no position to play nice and undervalue their software just for the sake of parity among competition. If it's too expensive for some people, oh well, I guess they just won't play it; if you buy it or not, it hardly matters to Nintendo, who is currently making crazy money either way.
Does anyone know if the camera’s x-axis is, or can be inverted? (Never played Pikmin before, I’m only assuming you have some sort of 3D camera control.)
(I hate that I have to research this now before buying a game... Nintendo is still pretty good about options, but... I feel like they may be slowly shifting away from their traditional camera controls.)
Wow, I never realized that Nintendo Life was full of so many people who could see the future. They should just change the name to Psychic Life.
@Ralizah The fact that we're talking about a "base game" and a "stand alone addon" running on 2 different generations is alone an exceptional, unprecedented circumstance that demands examination. That's not a normal generation shift to take an addon and split it to a new generation.
And I'd say it's not so much "they really want this game to headline the PS5" so much as "they see a market opportunity to utilize their paid-for Spiderman license as a marketing tool to push the PS5, but they didn't have time to make a full game, so they rushed through the expansion so they could have something featuring the popular Spiderman brand to headline their new hardware."
I.E. They didn't "enhance the addon for PS5 because it's so much better a game and fans want that" - they enhanced it to require a PS5 to maximize the marketing and sales potential of their Marvel license as a lure to spur sales. The game exists as-is as a business tool for market share acquisition, not as a design decision for the game itself.
As for gimmicks, well, fast load times may be better than a gimmick in that games actually designed around that limitation don't have to be anymore...so I'm inclined to give them a pass on that if that's indeed used as a "gimmick" - plus only Switch won't have that option after this. PC, XB, and PS will all have it. HD Rumble was a given....(whatever they call it), and I'm shocked MS doesn't seem to have that. Gyros sadly remain Nintendo only because XB doesn't have them and Sony players for some reason don't seem to care about having them. The 3D audio is hilarious though. XBox had that since forever using the Windows 3D audio, and then had a cheap $10 add-on to add Dolby's version. PS already used it in the PSVR processing module..... they literally moved it from the VR box to the main box and called it a new feature. I love the new PS5 controller though....I'm sure you hate it, but that's the one big win I see. The sticks are still wrong though. And, yeah, PS1 and 2 were function first. PS3, Vita, and PS4 showcased gimmicks in painful ways. I'm convinced Vita was designed by Kenichiro Takaki.
@rjejr WiiU: Reveal a dozen great games in year 1. Slowly release them over 4.5 years. Advertise them twice a year. Fill the void with the mountain of 3DS games. Abandon the system after they release:
Result: Hype for 4.5 years for a handful of games that made it fun to follow, with lots of new smaller games to be excited about between.
Switch: Reveal a dozen great games, release them in 2 years. Then release nothing but the dozen WiiU games for the next 2 years. Tell no one about any of it after those first 2. Announce the rest on twitter and investor notes. Have zero other smaller games on 3DS to fill the time.
Result: loyal fans are upset with nothing new going on for the past year except paper mario and a mediocre animal crossing that sells like crazy beause they released a life simulator in a plague. But Ninty won't care because they're selling tons of product because they released a life simulator in a plague.
@NEStalgia "Hate" is a strong word. At least the analog sticks are in the right place. But, yeah, the Dualsense is a solid downgrade all-around: too bulky-looking, a worse looking D-Pad, buttons that look like they barely pop out of the controller, and are also visually flat because of the lack of colored symbols. It looks like a bootleg Playstation controller, frankly.
And the color scheme is hideous.
@Ralizah I love the bulkiness, the sticks are still in the wrong place, have the same tiny caps, and no doubt are still overtensioned with ginormous deadzones. The dpad doesn't look different to me, but the surface is that glossy clear plastic instead of the matte gray plastic, though....that looks like it would feel worse to use (more like Vita, but with DS4 caps inside.) The buttons...are they actually flatter than DS4? They look the same to me from side profiles....which is to say shallow and flabby like DS4, I'm sure. I wasn't fond with the minimal travel and lack of tactile feedback on them as it was on DS4, but looking at DS5, it looks to me to be the same buttons with presumably the same travel as before....the clear caps jut make them look shallower. Clear caps. Like XBox. But XBox has colors.....
Aww, what's wrong with the color scheme. Who doesn't want an Astrobot themed controller?
obviously I can't speak for nes but to me the problem is really that they're clearly using ports to replace releases at this point.
Most of the indies and 3rd parties on switch are also ports of years old games that we've all played before if we had any other system.
@Yorumi You may be the only person in this thread to even partially convince me that Nintendo's output has been a significant problem. Your point about ports is valid, I think.
This only underlines what I call the AA problem - Nintendo and other publishers refuse to release medium-sized projects like F-Zero, Wave Race, Excite Truck, Punch-Out!! (something more like the Wii version) and other less profitable, but more easily-developed titles. Coupled with the difficulty the entire industry now has completing AAA titles, it seems that their output becomes less fluent and diverse.
I am still convinced that people on this forum would criticize even if we saw more AA titles interspersed in the schedule, though. As long as it isn't what me, I, myself want, right? When I read phrases like "a game nobody asked for", my mind boggles - who ever asked for The Legend of Zelda or Castlevania in the era when shoot-'em-ups and other short games were king?
@NEStalgia I'm sure the button travel time isn't tremendously different, but the buttons just look terrible from the front. Still better than the polished rocks in my 360 controller, of course.
Yeah, I'm not surprised you like the bulkiness, really. I bet you'd like it if the Xbox Series X had a controller like The Duke, wouldn't you? A tumor with buttons.
The controller could very well be styled after Astro Bot, but, like the console more generally, it's still an ugly combination of colors for a controller.
It's pretty disappointing that Sony nearly perfect console controller design with the DS4, and then they go and pull a Microsoft by force feeding the thing until it bloats up and loses its attractive curves.
@Dringo still, I don't see how Pikmin 3 is viewed as a financial disaster. Obviously it didn't sell as much as they would have liked, but I am sure it was somewhat profitable.
@Ralizah Well, let's not talk 7th gen controllers.....360 controller was bad, PS3 controller was carpal tunnel syndrome with a lithium battery (and the originals didn't include rumble due to contract disputes), and the Wii controller was a Power Point presenter. My Toshiba DVD player had the best controller that gen....
They did rerelease the Duke for X1.....it should work on X. But no, that's too big. X1 and PS5 get the controller size right for once!
If by "sony nearly perfected the controller with the DS4" you mean "the DS5 finally has an ergonomic design for the first time in Playstation history!" I agree! PS1, 2, and 3 controllers were SNES controllers with wings. Bad, little baby Yoshi wings.
@NEStalgia If ACNH were a "life simulator" nobody would be playing. It's more a "vacation simulator" since we're all stuck at home. 😉
Very nice recap of the last 8 years of Nintendo, take a bow. 👍
Nintendo always does the opposite of what I think a normal company should do, but announcing then releasing Paper Mario only 2 months apart was really weird. Surely they had a trailer ready last year at E3? Game is good, could have been promoted for a year.
@rjejr checklists of chores, incessant resource collection, constant running things back and forth all in indentured servitude to a raccoon isn't my idea of a vacation
@BenAV Haven’t played it so just curious, does the original DLC pick up where the original shipped version ends? Or do you think it might pass out the experience enough for you?
(I’m not even talking about the new side stories, which may help a little, at least for me.)
@NEStalgia "indentured servitude"
Here's the thing about indentured servitude, after 7 years you get your freedom. My freedom in ACNH probably came around the 200 hour mark. Maybe 300 hours. So now I can do whatever I want. Without wearing a mask. Emphasis on the not wearing a mask part. Though I did wear a snorkel mask for about a week before somebody told me I don't need that to swim, so now I don't.
But the indentured servitude was real. If I wasn't in lockdown in my home I never would have made it more than a few hours and traded it in, but my emotional well being required the distraction.
It's not a game, it's self-medication. And isn't that what a vacation is, self-help?
@rjejr I'd like to think the appeal of this game is about more than "surviving a lockdown." But I'm starting to wonder....
I technically don't get how the game in particular makes that better.....isn't the point of gaming to escape "life" because life more or less sucks plague or no? I'd rather be stranded on an alien planet hunted by hostile tentacles with a pack of space marines with bad aim than living the tedium of filling out paper reports for someone I don't like and dealing with the obnoxious human crowds everywhere else....why do I want a game that does nothing but simulate tedious checklisting and endless chores....even in lockdown we still have that in real life! More of it than ever in fact!
ACNL ws fun....a happy perfect little world to just play in. ACNH is a simulation of tedious chores. And somehow that caught on with the public....because they find themselves lacking in tedious chores?
I think I want their lives!
(EDIT: And I don't swim...because that's also boring, tedious, and involves dealing with rediculously slow interface that makes me want to rip the tails off kittens. )
@Dringo Oh, I completely agree that the company is in good shape. They have an incredible amount of cash on hand with little to know debt. I can even understand the fact of kicking some titles to next year considering the current situation, but they need to give their consumers something to look forward to.
We are not hearing anything from them. The best we get comes from the rumor mill. It's not a good marketing plan. They have a difficult time maintaining momentum, and too often, it is more of an internal problem than an external.
Pikmin 3 while a great game doesn't light much of a fire under anyone. It's another remaster. Meanwhile, June comes and goes with no news of games. July comes and goes with no news of games. I guess we just wait and see if the August rumor of a mainline Direct will take place.
@NEStalgia "And somehow that caught on with the public....because they find themselves lacking in tedious chores?"
Well we know it SOLD 22 million copies. We don't know how many people played it for more than 3 hours though. Not like trading in used video games is easy, and it's impossible when you buy digital.
And I think you're missing the part where peoples brains are hard-wired for meaningless chores. We like the sense of accomplishment. Remember that guy and the pigeons? And all those Xbox and Sony fanbois who buy "My Little Pony Dream Castle" b/c it's an easy plat and pads their stats?
Think of it as a penny slot machine where every penny wins you 2 cents back, occasionally 3 cents, very rarely 5 cents. That's ACNH, a very easy to win time wasting slot machine where nobody ever dies or goes hungry. They do all get sick though which is odd, but healing them only takes a second and medicine it basically free so...
@NEStalgia Just out of curiosity, how many hours do you think you have wasted on NL these past few days? What did you get out of that? Id' rather spend my time on ACNH than here. Your'e an exception, I only communicate w/ people I agree with, all of the rest of the emails simply get deleted.
ACNH is more fun than arguing w/ fanbois. 🤣
@rjejr "Well we know it SOLD 22 million copies. We don't know how many people played it for more than 3 hours though."
LOL, that's actually a good point I hadn't thought of. How many are buying on hype and social pressure alone? And one thing that was true before the plague that seems to have become 10x worse, is most of the public just looks at social media to see "what everyone else is doing" and then doing it too. It's horrifying to see. I knew people did that before. I don't know if the plauge made it worse, or if it just made it more visible. But that's all I see...whatever seems to "trend" then becomes the most popular thing. The human race exists in a permanent state of Tulip Mania now. They find the next thing "everyone else" is doing, then swarm it and deplete it until it's gone. It's terrifying herd mentality. I'm convinced even sheep are much more independent than humans now. Did social media cause it, or does it just enable us to see it clearly?
I don't know, my brain isn't hard-wired for meaningless chores. That's why they're called chores. You don't want to do them. You just have to to get what you want/need done. So you begrudgingly do them. Which is different from paying $60 to do it for no actual result
I've also never understood people's trophy/achievement addictions either. It's a number. On a screen....WHY are you playing it like a game? I mean I don't even slightly understand it.
And are you sure My little Pony Dream Castle was really about the easy plat? Maybe there are just a lot more closet bronies out there than we thought?
ACNL didn't feel like such a drag though. It was fun, not a time waster. Sure you spent time, but it was about picking it up for 15, 20 minutes, checking on the town, doing a few things, then going about your day or other games. That kept it fresh and fun. ACNH is a time waster....like mobile games. It's designed to keep you captive checking off the chores for hours on end. None of them fun...it just holds you ransom against your will.
I don't know about ACNH being more fun than arguing with fanbois. Arguing is at least intellectually stimulating and you learn how to tie knots using only your mind.... ACNH is press A....run to blathers. Furiously mash B until he STFU. sort inventory....replace broken tools. Furiously mash A until the animation is done....
I'm impatient. If you make me wait 8/10 of a second for something that should have taken 1/10 once I'm annoyed. If you make me do it 8 times in a row I will break you.
@NEStalgia sheep > people without a doubt
I'm still trying to figure out how you wrote all of that but never mentioned Tiger King? 🤣

@fortius54 Indeed. One of the challenges is doing a Direct and showing stuff that might slip... or the dev and marketing teams not being able to do proper assets or trailers.
It is frustrating, for everyone. Nintendo won’t want this either
But we know they have teams building games. And making games is complex and lengthy. It’s annoying having to be this patient. I really hope they show us some big titles soon
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