
Update - Tue 17th Dec, 2019 04:00 GMT: According to tweets by the Grasshopper Twitter account, Studio Plumeau and Suda51, this matter has now been resolved. Studio Plumeau explained how the animation had "indeed" been purchased on Envato, and the user selling it was also selling assets made by other fx artists.
Here's the official notice from Suda51 and Grasshopper:
Original Story - Sat 14th Dec, 2019 11:00 GMT: A day after Grasshopper and Nintendo revealed a new trailer for No More Heroes 3, introducing the outer space baddie at the 2019 Game Awards, the same clip has come under fire for allegedly using an animation created by Studio Plumeau without its permission.
Studio Plumeau made this public over on the social media platform Twitter, with a side-by-side video comparison:
https://twitter.com/StudioPlumeau/status/1205542377282293760
The studio went onto state how it was a "hand drawn logo animation" created back in 2013, and "no library or assets from another source" were supposedly used. It's not the first time this has apparently happened to the studio, either.
A separate tweet, replying to this post, said the animation looked like "one of those 2D FX assets you'd download for After Effects" and provided a video upload dating back to December 2014, which was taken from the digital assets service Envato.
The same reply suggested reaching out to Envato to resolve the issue. In other words, the latest No More Heroes 3 trailer titled 'The Return' may not have necessarily got this animation from Studio Plumeua at all. Series creator Suda51 even 'liked' both of the tweets as well.
What are your thoughts about this? Comment below.
[source nintendoeverything.com]
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So this is not Grasshopper's fault? Good. Let's move on.
considering suda liked the second tweet, it seems pretty clear cut it wasn't their bad
It was most likely the case that it was stolen by another party who claimed it was theirs and free for use.
That's who needs to be billed/sued.
@somebread Thanks, I've added this in.
The person who stole the artwork and uploaded it to Envato is at fault here not the studio. Maybe contact the studio in private first rather than trying to smear them publicly.
As someone who has used Envato purchased products to create things for work, I imagine this sort of thing happens all the time.
Yes, it sucks that your hard work gets used. But it is a tiny sequence within a massive piece of work where they made it all themselves.
I don’t like all this copyright stuff. The suing over dance moves and people getting touchy over their designs. I’ve made viral videos (for work) that others have taken and uploaded to their own channels or whatever. It shouldn’t happen, but we have never taken action.
I am baffled by how low some corporates are willing to sink just to fetch a quick (massive) buck out of someone else's hard work... this "Studio Pluneau" (I've never heard about them) needs to chill!
Wow there's really no good news at all today huh? Lawsuits, only half-working patches, assets being seemingly stolen, among other things. Huh. What a day.
.. well, I guess the good news is that it's not the NMH developers being at fault. I'll take it. They're good boys.
Had to laugh when I watched the video, a stroke of flash exploding. Wow, what genius animator came up with that and thought it was original to create problems for whoever else uses it. Give me a break, this entire thing is just nonsense.
@Kienda Just because you don’t defend yourself doesn’t mean others don’t have the right to.
@TAndvig Please mind the language.
@Kienda I was about to say this. I bought effects like these right off of envato.
I don't know... At first I thought it was totally the Envato animation, but after looking closely, NMH looks WAY more like the original Studio Plumeau animation than it does the Envato one. Either it was straight up stolen, or someone saw both assets and thought it was fair to use either variation. Either way, Grasshopper needs to find the individual responsible, or face the music.
And for those saying to "chill out" about IP theft: I'm no fan of IP law myself. But I am totally on the side of a small company having work stolen by a big one. Copyrights are a matter of survival for them and those are exactly the people IP laws SHOULD be protecting.
Hmm, that animation doesn’t seem so original where one person could claim it as theirs. Anyone who watches anime has seen that hundreds of times from a number of studios.
It sucks but the design choices could be created by anyone who took a class for it.
This kind of thing happens quite often in animation, and usually gets solved in non-dramatic ways. :9
This is a commercially available effect that has a set license price. It's more of an issue whn studios borrow something that isn't for sale in the first place.
@Berto_Gamut
The video has a frame-by-frame walk through. These aren't the same by coincidence. It's that exact effect.
Ok, this happens. Even in simple print design - art gets used or transferred around studios and it turns out not 100% original.
Gets fixed with a few calls.
Cant wait for NMH3! - Day 1.
There doesn't seem to be a case, but kudos to Suda 51 to allow free publicly for his game and Envato.
Considering all the other crazy animation that doesn't appear to be lifted from a known property, I'm inclined to believe it's the latter option that they used the digital asset service of Envato, thinking that was a totally fine thing to do (Which in theory, it absolutely should be). And Envato is indeed the ones here who did the original stealing unbeknownst to either of the other parties.
It’s funny how their company is a bunch of nobodies so they need to start twitter drama just for people to notice them.
Update on this whole thing. It’s been confirmed that the asset was bought from Envato, a user driven assets shop. The original studio was contacted by the animators of No More Heroes to confirm. https://twitter.com/StudioPlumeau/status/1205900772061458432?s=20
@ALinkttPresent I agree people can and should protect their creations.
However, my main point on this instance was the way they went about it. They should have contacted the company directly rather than a publicly shaming. It isn’t just a simple steal. They added it to an original work.
At least now they know their work is out there in lots of areas.
It is clear someone else has copied the design and made it widely available, selling it on Envato and also putting it on YouTube for people to use for free so now it is widespread.
Even with a lot of lawsuits it will be hard for them to have them taken down. Once it is out it’s out, unfortunately.
And copyrighting and suing for dance moves is stupid.
The NMH3 trailer looks so unique that I had to watch it multiple times, with pausing on plenty on frames. It's a really cool art style that fits so well and brings anime into a new direction, and I can't wait for the game.
Please update this post. The original tweet by Plumeau has been deleted and an update was posted:
https://twitter.com/StudioPlumeau/status/1205900772061458432
Aww, nice to see the whole thing got resolved. It’s refreshing to see it done and dusted, with both sides walking away happy and some chancer caught in the act.
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