At some point throughout your gaming career, you've probably played a Disney game. One of these titles might have even been the 2010 Wii release Epic Mickey, by Junction Point Studios. The director of the first game, Warren Spector, considers this to be one of the "high points" of his career. Unfortunately, the sequel flopped and this followed with the closure of the Junction Point in 2013.
During a recent interview with VGC, Spector was asked if Disney should still be making games, following comments from the Walt Disney CEO Bob Iger in February, claiming the company had no interest in returning to this area now that Star Wars was licensed to EA.
In reply, Spector said Disney should "absolutely" be working in the video game industry, given the IP it has at its disposal and stated how it was "a real shame" the organisation was limited to licensing.
"Absolutely. With the properties they control, I think just being a licensing organisation is a real shame."
He went on to explain how he was proud of his work and probably would have "stuck it out" if he had the chance.
“Bob Iger runs the biggest media company in the world and I don’t, so he’s probably smarter than I am. But I would’ve stuck it out."
Disney Infinity was another project Spector believes was a "step in the right direction" for the company. Unfortunately, though, there were apparently people at Disney Interactive who simply didn't understand video games.
“There were people at Disney Interactive who didn’t like games and didn’t get games. I think that was a large part of the problem.”
What do you think about Warren Spector's comments? Do you think Disney needs to rethink its relationship with the game industry? Tell us below.
[source videogameschronicle.com]
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They can start by porting kingdom hearts to switch
A real shame indeed. I guess most Disney execs just take video games for granted. In a way I don't blame them since they profit more on Disney merchandise than their video game efforts.
Disney as a Videogame Developer and Publisher?!, Well, Yes and No.
Firstly, it is true, Disney has a huge catalog of series and characters that can play well in video games, it has been seen before, and is still seen today; then the fact that there are Disney video games and some if they have become good, if it is a success that between Disney to video games; ah, and yes, Disney with Square Enix (Kingdom Hearts) have shown the most perfect example to see that there is potential for video games with their franchises.
However, Disney's history regarding video games is "some poor" (except, yes, Kingdom Hearts series and some games in the NES-N64 era), does not accept "half-hearted" successes, and almost games made by themselves, because they do not reach the success that mega companies like that desire; adding the fact of how he has treated the companies that develop their games, which in some cases, like Avalanche studios, simply makes Disney look like another potential EA; well, just look at how Disney has bought Marvel comics, Lucas Films (Lucas Arts included, yes, this is videogames), Fox and now Hulu, well, if they enter fully into videogames, some company would be in their sights to be absorbed , and Disney is bigger than any of the videogame companies that are at the moment.
So, my opinion, better leave things as they are at the moment, for NOW; Kingdom Hearts, again, is a example that it is better to leave things as they are right now.
Besides their involvement in KH, they kept making Mickey games. Never bothered to make much different. The Olaf game rode the original Frozen movie hype. DuckTales Remastered was outsourced to WayForward (and was fairly solid despite the 2.5D and retaining archaic enemy-spawning method, both of which would later PLAGUE Shantae:HGH). You'd think they could make some games that were eye-catching.
If the gigantic Disney empire has an Achilles Foot (other than ESPN) it is video games. They just see video games as pricier to produce toys and nothing more, which was really obvious in most of the Disney Interactive made Games IMO.
Obviously Disney should be making their own games in-house. They should have finished Star Wars 1313, kept Lucas Arts open, kept Disney Interactive open, kept Avalanche Software open, and kept Black Rock Studios open. They could be making some amazing games right now.
Yawn. Classic Disney. Trillion dollar company and doesn't know what to do with it. In other news water is wet.
I miss spectrobes
How did it go with his Switch problem? I haven't slept in weeks just because I've been thinking about it.
Disney can bring these games for Nintendo Switch :
1. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 HD + 3
2. Disney Magical World 3
3. Disney Princess
4. Disney Afternoon Collection in HD Remake
He’s right, and I think investors will think so too.
Look around- Google, Netflix, and Apple are jumping into the arena balls first with ZERO interesting IP. Microsoft has been bleeding money from gaming off and on for nearly 2 decades. Why?
Look at the reward. There’s not a pot of gold, but a Scrooge McDuck ocean of f*** you money at the end of the gaming rainbow. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft stock are ALL up +200% in the past 5 years. Hell, even EA is up a dizzying 160% in that time.
Disney, while riding high and mighty now, is selling a FINITE product- movie tickets, vacations, TV shows, cable channels. Nearly all of their media is for consuming, and once consumed, can become stale. Businesses in the same boat (Netflix, Apple) are hopping into interactive entertainment, because now there’s a way to charge for that interaction- and it’s MUCH more compelling to keep paying to play.
Yes, Disney still has their IP in video games, but just look how gaming responded to what EA did with Star Wars. Without in house gaming studio’s, Disney’s IP’s are all in 1 basket, and it’s someone else’s.
It’s a bit humorous that WB Games is the one publishing most of the Disney games these days.
I like how we keep using that one picture of Warren Spector whenever there's an article. This is the only known image to exist on earth.
@Quarth The world needs to know.
It's a shame that Avalanche Software was let go by Disney. The Disney Infinity series had a good run though Disney over committed on the figures. It would have been nice if they could have continued the series with existing figures or option of digital figures instead.
Just in case you're reading this Disney... Can I please have a Switch collection of the Sega/Disney Master System and Mega Drive games?
Castle of Illusion, Land of Illusion, Legend of Illusion, The Lucky Dime Caper and Deep Duck Trouble from the Master System and Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion and QuackShot from the Mega Drive. I guess they could throw in Fantasia for completeness.
For me, classic Disney games were Quack Shot, Lion King and Aladdin on the Mega Drive. Disney can start with a new Ducktales game!
i'm against it, they own the simpsons of all things, i don't want them acquiring all entertainment ip.
Marvel does it so well. We get multiplats and exclusives because of them, but with a douche company like EA, a Nintendo console will never see a proper Star Wars game.
Revive LucasArts as a publisher only studio and let them get some actual good devs to make good Star Wars games, because EA sure aren’t.
Buy Nintendo, problem solved. 😁
I agree with Iger and think some of you have it backwards.
Disney doesn't NEED to make video games b/c it owns the IP, it simply doesn't need to b/c it does own the IP and licensing is a whole lot less work.
Why should Disney get in the game biz? So people can complain about how Disney treats it's workers unfairly during crunch time? About how it's games are always delayed? About how unfair they are with loot boxes?
Seriously, make a list of al the game companies you think are good right now - Nintendo and um, yeah - and all the ones you think are bad for various reasons - EA, Capcom, Sega, Bethseda, Blizzard, Konami. Almost every game company is being slammed for microtransactions, loot boxes, delays, physical games that aren't, games skipping Switch, plain bad games like Fallout 76 and ANTHEM.
What does Disney have to gain by making games that it can't more simply gain by licensing out it's IP? All the income and marketing for it's tv and movie properties, none of the headaches of actual game development.
Loved the 8-bit and 16-bit era of Disney-licensed games. The Illusion series, Aladdin, Lion King, Duck Tales - those experiences still stand up today, especially with a bit of spit and polish, as Duck Tales Remastered proved.
As for LucasArts, the games industry really misses them.
I was just saying yesterday that there needs to be a Smash Bros-style game featuring Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars/Lucasfilm characters. It’d be insane if they did it correctly.
Hire this man, Nintendo.
Disney should have either never left or demand the right to cancel any game if their obvious problems. As for example ea star wars games were a mess
@MH4
Not just that. I can easily see them doing most of the mario spin off series with an combined roster of all their ips
Eh, a number of the modern ones were pretty good but to me nothing beats the Disney Interactive of old. The 16-bit and early 3D games were some of the best licensed games I've played.
Disney really needs to NOT. They are really becoming WAY too big as it is. They just bought control of Hulu. They own part of Fox. They own Star Wars and Marvel and countless other IP. The own ABC, ESPN, Pixar, a small mountain of music companies, theater companies, National Geographic, and all of that is just scratching the surface!
Disney absolutely doesn't need to expand anymore. They are a monster and if it were up to me, governments around the world would demand the company break up. That's far too much power and influence in one company.
Haven't he seen ps4's Spider-Man? They already are.
Google, another behemoth, has a terrible track record with gaming. Leave it to people for whom gaming is a core competence.
Tomorrow Land would have made a better video game than movie. Robots everywhere, blasters, demension jumping, jetpacks, and oddly compelling home-protection traps. Done right, it could roll out a lot like Bioshock 3.
Also, a new Tron game.
According to Wikipedia, Disney Interative Studios (their videogame division) lost more than $200 million per year from 2008-2012, so probably not such a good idea.
@Heavyarms55 This^
At this point we just have the United Earth Empire of DGAF (Disney, Google, Apple, Facebook.) Why bother with governments at all, we should bow to our feudal lords? 2019 looks a lot like 1919.
@rjejr "Why should Disney get in the game biz? So people can complain about how Disney treats it's workers unfairly during crunch time?"
Not possible, they fired all their workers and just hired pseudo-slaves in tin pot authoritarianism. Mickey works 20 hour shifts in a glue trap factory when he's not on camera, and Minnie smells of elderberries.
@Aerona And fast! Our future depends on it.
Back when I was a pup (let's say 8 - 13, prime Disney demographic) I played games on the SNES / Mega Drive such as Aladdin, Quackshot, Mickey & Donald's World of Illusion... I have to say, those games piqued my imagination like no other, and stay fondly in my memory more than the likes of Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Alex Kidd etc from that generation.
Whether developing or just licensing to other developers, Disney absolutely has to stay in games. I won't play Disney games anymore, but you bet your ass the next generation will.
The problem is, Disney's games are so...generic. Even "Epic Mickey" lacks that special-ness to it that Nintendo games have. It should be interesting to see what happens.
@Dragnoran Yeah they should make a new one on the switch!
What happened to Tsum Tsum Disney Festival or something like that? It was actually cute, looks like it could tickle the old-as chill Disney game itch. Those are the only things I really care about from the company ironically enough, games they used to be sooooo good!
Hell yes it should!!!
Mickey and Donald retro styled games akin to Cuphead anyone?
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