Warren Spector is treated like a legend by many gamers, and with valid reason; he's been involved with some of the most influential and acclaimed games of the past few decades and can count System Shock, Ultima, Wing Commander, Deus Ex and Thief among his credits.
However, speaking to IGN, Spector revealed that the 2010 Wii exclusive Epic Mickey holds a special place in his heart for a wide range of reasons, and he considers it to be one of the "high points" of his illustrious career.
During the interview, Spector reveals that Epic Mickey's influence has been felt in unexpected ways. The game marked the return of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, an almost-forgotten Disney character that hadn't been seen used by the company since the middle of the 20th century. It also introduced Ortensia, Oswald's girlfriend - an entirely new character created for the game.
Spector reveals that he recently received an official Disney mug with both characters on it, and mused that Disney's merchandising team might not even be aware that Ortensia isn't an original Disney character, and in fact came from a video game. He also credits the game with making Oswald popular again.
Spector goes on to state that he's had more fan mail for Epic Mickey than any other game he has worked on, and that he's been told by some fans that the game has helped them get through periods of serious ill health.
The fan mail that gets him most of all involves an autistic girl who really connected with the world Spector and his team at Junction Point had created:
Here's the one that kills me. I got an envelope in the mail and I opened it up and out came a coloured pencil drawing of Oswald and Mickey, Oswald with his arm around Mickey, Mickey with his arm around Oswald, legs dangling off a cliff, looking up at a starry sky. And it looked like it an 8 or 9 year old kid had drawn it - I'm getting chills thinking about this - and then I pulled out the letter and the letter was from a father who said, 'My sixteen year old autistic daughter doesn't interact with the world but she played your game and drew this, and it she insisted that I send it to you - she engaged with the world because of your game.'
Screw Metacritic. Screw the gamers who didn't like our camera. Screw everybody. I am really proud of that game. I am really proud of the team that made it, and nothing is ever going to sway me from feeling that was one of the high points of my career.
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Comments (89)
Have it but not played more than about 60 seconds to check it worked. I promise to give it a proper look someday, Warren.
Not a huge fan of the Epic Mickey games (even though I played trough all three of them) but they had a lot of potential. Still, I'm more sad about the fact that Epic Donald never became a thing. I really liked those concept arts, had a nice Carl Barks vibe.
I loved the original despite its camera issues. Didn't enjoy the second one as much as it felt more like rehash and never picked up the handheld one.
I love those games and wish there could be another one.
I think I have this game, but only got as far as testing it works before storing it away. I intend to play it one day, probably when I retire and I finally get a few years free to work through my backlog! I dread to think how large my backlog will be by then....
Both great games which were treated unfairly by critics.
I loved the 2 main games. Couldn't understand that negativity.
What? I thought that this game was a hit with the critics! The first one is awesome.
But after seeing critics nitpick with Persona 5 camera, I don't doubt anything more. Bunch of cry babies.
I only found the first game to be pretty good. The second one was boring.
I wasn't a huge fan of the game (the original) but the letter he received is really special. That would have instilled me with pride, for sure!
I had this game but did not like it that much. I didn't like its gameplay and I have to say I didn't like the concept itself. It would have been nice a "comical dark" Mickey Mouse game, something similar to Luigi's Mansion, but they went way to far with darkness and gloomy and all the waste scattered around with this one, it was just too much imho. The best Epic Mickey game was in my opinion the handheld one but it was still inferior to other Mickey Mouse games for me, I prefer the original Castle of illusion and the Castle of illusion 3D remake which is very good on pc, but unfortunately seems rather poor on consoles because of very serious framerate issues
I enjoyed the first game and the Power of Illusion. Never played 2. The first one wasn't as bad as reviews made it out to be.
Warren Spector seems like a really chill guy
I enjoyed The first Epic Mickey. I also liked the handheld quite a bit. I started the s cond one, but I couldn't get into it. I need to go back and revisit it.
I wish we could get more from this series. I'm extremely disappointed with Disney Interactive. They really do not have any idea how to run things. With this and the Disney Infinity gaffe, I'll have a tough time trusting anything from Disney's video game group.
I think both series should have continued, but that's life I suppose.
I liked the first one, camera was never an issue for me. I think I'd put it on my top 10 Wii games.
The sequel had some things I like, mainly the Alice level, but between the voice acting, the less interesting story and the fact that it's so short I can't say it's good.
I liked what I played of the first Mickey. Deus Ex is one of the greatest games ever made to me. I played through 1 and 2 multiple times. Even though I don't think he had anything to do with Deus Ex HR and MD, those were very well done too. So have to be thankful he created a nice universe that can live on even without him.
Anyway, I should go back to Epic Mickey sometime, think I bought it on PC for cheap on one of the sales.
cool - its $10 used on amazon so I think I'll buy it and play it!
Epic Mickey was one of the high points of my Wii. I've played through it multiple times. I love it so much. Which makes it even weirder that I never played the sequel. Couldn't decide between getting it on the Wii U or PS3 and now it's too late for both
I played (and finished) the first one. A brilliant but flawed game. Moments of genius with moments of rage inducing frustration. But overall a good game with a great idea. I never picked up the second it was on the "next gen" and I was dubious without the pointer of the Wiimote and i read the none of the first games flaws were fixed and now it was co op focused. So I just didn't bother, should I have done?
I loved Epic mickey, got it as a gift from my dad for christmas. I was 20 back then, I never finished it tho, still plan to do that. I played 6 times from the start at least.
Might not have been the best game, but with so much potential and the earnest work that was put into it, it has a special place in my heart. Gotta love Warren's attitude. Review scores don't matter; the fact he enjoyed making it is.
The first game was so ambitious and creative, but it is such a shame it couldn't do better with the camera. I gave it plenty of chances, but had to quit because it was such a problem for me.
That said, stories like this are nice to hear. Its so cool that he got a letter like that, and I'm sure that's one he's going to keep forever.
I loved Epic Mickey. The sequels weren't bad either. I'm a huge Disney fan, including the history, so this world was like a dream. I'm still very disapointed they couldn't do more with it.
The story about the fan mail is inspiring but I have to be honest in stating that I hated both games. I thought they were dreadful.
However, it's cool to hear that not everyone measures success the same way.
I wanted to love it. I love the concept.
I was fine with the controls & camera.
I just found it to be a dull 3D platformer. Based on the marketing, I think I expected it to be transcendent. But its gameplay was more on par with the weaker Gamecube era 3D platformer games (Spongebob, Jimmy Neutron).
I tried it... it was boring.
And then, Epic Mickey 2 happened.
I thought it was kind of mediocre, but honestly I'm happy for him. It's great to see developers with genuine passion for the games they make.
Epic Mickey is historical because it was the motivation to bring Oswald the Lucky Rabbit back into the Disney family!
Good for him! Never played the games and I don't know if I ever will, but this guy has the right attitude. Game reviews and reviewers tend to be rubbish and unreliable. Hell, most of them are pretty bad at videogames, as the current trend of calling something "The Dark Souls of ____" will tell you.
I have to give credit to Spector for being so proud of his work, darn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! That's a true artiste right there.
His sentiment for people that liked his game aside though, after an illustrious career of amazing creations, he got to Epic Mickey and for whatever reason, just got core components so wrong. It's fine to love the idea, but he seems to not accept that the camera really did have problems that made the game hard to enjoy for a lot of people, and there was a disturbing lack of excitement in the gameplay loop. The CONCEPT was amazing. The implementation was less so. I suspect that hubris of "I was right all along and the critics are all wrong" is what led to Epic Mickey 2 being such a disappointment. He didn't learn lessons from the original to improve upon to make the definitive version of his original vision on the second try, and instead kept doing more of the same, making it worse.
Of course, that's a classic Spector trait after his earlier games. Deus Ex was visionary, amazing, but rough around the edges. The sequel was a distilled mess the fandom refuses to acknowledge existing. A totally different company made the last two repairing the legacy back to what it started as. Thief 1 was great, but flawed, delving into the weirdness of the supernatural, in was that clashed with the immersive thief concept. Thief 2 fixed it by returning to the core of what made the whole concept work, and was made without Spector. Then Spector made the third one and threw away most of the legacy of the game turning it into a weird supernatural horror game. Ultima and Wing Commander never suffered that fate, and System Shock 2 was kind of screwed over by the publisher.
I happen to wish Epic Mickey had turned out better. The idea was fantastic.
I loved Epic Mickey. I'd never trade that game off. It's not perfect, but it's really fun... especially for Disney fans.
I'd love to see it re-released in some form or another. Unrealistic as the idea is, maybe a 3DS rehash in the vein of Donkey Kong Country Returns.
I think I'll break it out and let my kids give it a go.
Warren Spector has every right to be proud of Epic Mickey. It's the best Disney game I've played since the days of the SNES.
This was by faaaaaaaar one of my top favorite Wii games, it brought put a more darker tone to mickey mouse we never have seen before in a game or cartoon. I have played through this game at lest 4 times trying to get 100%. It is a very fun game that I really enjoyed. Loved how they also brought bad oswald the lucky rabbit for it to, was a nice surprise. And the game is a work of art. I defenetly recomend this game 100%
The sequals are really fun to. And all three of the games are chearp pick them up, they are worth the buy
I agree, it was a great game.
@gcunit my thoughts exactly.
I guess you could say I wasn't around then, or at least not in the gaming world, so I didn't know anything about them. But I suppose I can sum up Warren's response in one word: Epic.
No, no need, I'll see myself out.
I freaking loved that game! It's the only time I enjoyed hearing "It's a Small World After All."
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As I only played the 1st, I really enjoyed it despite a couple flaws. Haven't played the others but more on the fact I don't feel like I need to play every sequel then the quality of the game.
Totally agree. Really nice games. Im still hoping for a third entry.
I have the second one, but I don't want to play it until I hunt down a copy of the first one and play that.
I'll try them out someday, Warren, I promise. The premise looks interesting, so that works in their favour to not go into the "I must sell" pile.
I loved Epic Mickey 1, but 2 was just a mess of a game and did little more than compound the errors of EM1 while adding a host of its own, sadly.
Still, I'd have loved a part 3 that ditched the ill-considered 2P mechanics of 2 in favor of a return to form a la EM1 (that also addresses some of the more pressing concerns in 1, like the camera and other throwbacks to N64-era 3D platformers).
After playing several hours of Epic Mickey, it is safe to say that the concept was amazing, but the implementation was horrific. Sure, it was amazing to see so many classic Disney characters and Disney park references included, but some aspects made absolutely no sense. Why wouldn't things you painted in the overworld stay painted? Why would open missions suddenly become impossible to complete or failed without explanation? Why could you randomly fall to your death through objects and parts of stages? Why did the game take a minimum of three full playthroughs to 100% complete when there were only two possible endings?
For those of you looking for a better Epic Mickey experience, please play Paper Mario: Color Splash. Sure, you don't have the good/bad paths like Epic Mickey, but at least the stuff you paint stays painted and the glitches are to a minimum. Just ignore the wonky card-based battle system, though...
Article is wrong. Ortensia existed all the way through, she isn't a creation of Epic Mickey's.
Epic Mickey isn't bad, but I reached a point that it just became boring. But then I had the same problem with a lot of the 3D platforming games in the N64 era, there is platforming but there is no increase of challenge (or insanely steep climbs in difficulty with no warning).
I played the first game and although I didn't get to finish, I really enjoyed it. It was definitely something special and I've love to see that series being continued eventually.
Screw all the critics!
Well, good for him. And not a bad story. Personally I pretty liked that game, even if it wasn't as good as I had hoped. Its definitely no Banjo Kazooie or Mario Sunshine, that's for sure.
Man, I respect Warren so dang much, I need to give Epic Mickey another shot. I never did fisnish it. It's an interesting premise, and is technically impressive, but as a platforming adventure, I gotta say it's rather confusing to play, both in terms of art direction and player motivation.
He's completely right in everything he says.
This game was the best game ever to have the Disney franchise linked to a video game and was a brilliant game.
Completely overlooked and completely underrated.
I'd love love to see this released on the Wii U virtual console. I stillnown the collector edition with the figurine but would love to add it to the virtual collection and have it side by side it's sequel on my gamepad
I didn't love the games in execution, but I loved the ideas, and I can't NOT respect his stance on it. Anyone defining the success of their career solely based on critics or finances is doing it wrong, as far as I'm concerned.
As much fun as the first game was, he obviously didn't have the same thought about the sequel. That's just plain unfinished.
Never understood the hate. The Wonderful 101 was brilliant, but had some serious mechanical warts. Yet people generally overlook these... for some reason, the equally brilliant (and flawed) Epic Mickey isn't afforded the same.
I am the biggest Disney fan I know. I worship the classics like nothing else, and I was so excited for Epic Mickey.
Alas, I must be among the group Warren says "screw you" to, because that game was a colossal disappointment and a wet garbage bag of frustration. The marginally better (yet still underwhelming) Power of Illusion was the last straw. Never bothered with The Power of Two.
Warren, good luck with your future, but I hope your next games will be much better.
@NEStalgia I agree unreservedly.
I have Epic Mickey but I sadly never finished it. What I played was fun and I actually liked the atmosphere quite a bit. I just remember though, because my dad played it too, that we both got stuck in the same exact spot and couldn't figure out for the life of us what to do, so we just stopped playing it seems. Might need to revisit this one day.
Loved Epic Mickey. Respected Spector (reSpector?...) for making it and for his very sensible opinion about the increase of unnecessary violence in video games, appreciating him even more now after reading this.
I'd love to play an Epic Mickey 3 on Switch!
It wasn't a bad game. The problem with Epic Mickey was that it ignored what Mario 64 had done, a "free" camera that can be controlled independently of the character. This caused a lot of frustration with Epic Mickey.
Principal Skinner: "it's the children who are wrong."
I remember the original Epic Mickey so much because of how excited I was for it and how much I disliked it by the time I finished. So many of the game's objectives seemed like fetch quests to me. At some point I'll have to replay it, but I remember it as being not very good.
How about that Epic Donald game, for the Switch. Eh? No? Ok
@David_Dudeney Are you taking the Mickey?
Liked this game a lot it got a raw deal at the time
@Pinkman Me too. The 2 Epic Mickey games were and are AMAZING and you can see all the love that went into them both PLUS they were a breathe of fresh air during a time where FPS games were the norm. Thank you Mr. Spector for having the courage and vision to lead the team than created the incredible worlds realized in these 2 Epic Mickey games and thank you for putting such strong support behind the Wii especially with he first Epic Mickey game during a time many developers said the Wii was "underpowered" and just could not produce amazing graphics. You proved them wrong with these games and proved them to just be lazy! These games are 2 more reasons I will not be selling my Nintendo Wii anytime soon. The games looks great when played via component cables! BTW the Collector's edition release of Epic Mickey for the Wii with the special edition Mickey Mouse figure and the bonus DVD was fantastic! I'm glad I was able to get one back when it was released
@DESS-M-8 Agreed!
The first Epic Mickey and Power of Illusion were good. But Epic Mickey 2... that was a rush job if there ever was one.
I own the first game but it's still in its shrink wrap. It came out late in the Wii's life when my backlog had grown too large, unfortunately. I had completely forgotten about it but this article might be the push I need to unwrap it and give it a go.
@bert0503 Exactly! Game is fine, camera kills it.
Also, I'd like to see 3rd EM based on early concept arts. It was pretty dark, even more than it already is.
Wasn't really impressed with either game but the story about the fan mail from the autistic teenager is lovely.
Loved the first two games,didn't even bother playing the third one.
They was ok, nothing amazing but not horrible either.
The first one was excellent. Didnt buy the second one but might someday.
@thesilverbrick OR see if you can find a cheap copy on ebay to play and keep that original bad boy mint and sealed.
@Randomname19 If by third one you mean the 3DS version, I think that version also was way underappreciated in it's time. Now with the improved 3D on the New 3DS the game holds up even better now than it did when it was first released. I am also glad I got that game as well
@MakeMyBiscuit That's worth considering. Maybe it'll be worth something someday if it keep it sealed.
More disappointed on how bad the 3DS game turned out.
I enjoyed Epic Mickey a lot. I loved the tone of the world, it had a brilliant, twisted, nightmarish atmosphere. It had genuine technical issues, the camera especially. But I played it until the end, and I enjoyed the ride.
At least he was trying to do something different and moderately ambitious. I'd take another Epic Mickey over CoD any time.
@kobashi100
More disapointed on how the final boss, Mizrabel, turned out.
I feel the same way as Warren Spector honestly. Epic Mickey was/is one of my favorite Wii games and I still remember it fondly to this day. Regardless of the opinions of critics and fellow gamers alike, I felt it was a real gem in the Wii library. The sequel wasn't very good, and I didn't think too highly of The Power of Illusion but the first one was great. At least through my eyes. It helped open up my imagination a little which I feel all games should.
@Arngrim I would seriously pay for that.
I played it, never finished it. But I think I was close. Only I was really bothered by those choices that restrict you in getting all the collectables in the one playthrough.
Good for him. I kinda found the game boring, but I did really like certain aspects of it.
I liked the game a lot, although I never finished it. Should go back and do that. But I love the soundtrack. I'm a huge Disney fan and I like how the themes are recognizable but still totally fresh.
@MakeMyBiscuit I love the 3DS game,the one I don't like is Epic Mickey 2.
I'm going to give my honest opinion of Epic Mickey. I'm not a Disney hater or some crazy saboteur.This game could of been better. The art and story were great, but the game had too many problems. I really did enjoy seeing how they used Disney characters and theme park rides (looks like same idea Disney rides is going to be in new Kingdom Hearts). What took me by surprise was that they used the old Disney comic books; I thought that was a great and unexpected idea! I have to mention Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. I've seen Oswald before but I never knew the story behind this character (I later found out what happened to him, and I want to know how Disney brought his back. Another artist owned the rights to Oswald back then and Mickey was created as a result of not being able to use Oswald. That's another story! LOL)
This game had too many glitches, not always clear where to go, too much shading in levels, Mickey would fall into a hidden space and couldn't get out, he would get stuck within a level (game would move on & I found weird way to get to next part after trying everything I could think of. Trust me, even with lots of research, I still couldn't figure out how to advance in game), and the same enemies throughout the entire game made it boring. I can see how lots of people would give up on trying to finish this game. I later heard that EM 2 was just as broken as the first one and better to skip it-I won't even play EM 2.
I also bought the Epic Mickey Wii Mote charger; that thing did not work. It looks really cool, but I later discovered that many other people had the same experience as I did.
I really hope they come out with a part 3 (or an RPG!!!) as a way to redeem themselves. I love the story behind this game and I love that Mickey has his paint brush that he uses as a weapon and tool!
I miss this game and the second one also I really wish they would both come to the switch
@SMW yeah same Gus game played a big part of my childhood...
@AlienX Yes I’m here from the future...
Was the camera any worse than Mario 64? Cause people love to complain about that game’s camera, and it never was an issue for me.
@BlubberWhale Nah, even though I don't remember having issues with SM64's camera the controls in EM are more precise and closer to Sunshine's or Xenoblade's.
I think it's because there are parts in the game where moving the cam doesn't work or only moves slightly, but since this game isn't as platform heavy as SM64 I don't see the problem.
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