Video: Can Team Sonic Racing On Switch Keep Pace With The PlayStation 4 Version?

So the Switch version isn't really that bad. Wonder why they're holding back review codes If it's a decent enough port?

Wish I had the money to buy this game. It looks and sounds amazing, 30fps is not a problem for me (I'm not bothered by that on MK8DX with multiplayer).

I'm used to play games under 20fps on my laptop with crap specs. As long as I can play a game I may not play otherwise I'm more than happy.

Looks about the same. The FPS drops don’t look like it effects the gameplay that much surprisingly.

On a side note, I really miss the music of older Sonic games. It seems like since Sonic Adventure the soundtracks have been a mix of cheesy power rock and elevator/ lounge music. I miss the upbeat pop and electro of the earlier games.

Framerate would be a dealbreaker for me, If I was going to get this game I would get the PS4 version for sure. Racing games are one genre that greatly benefit from better framerates.

The difference in graphics isn't that dramatic but the 30fps is awful in comparison, especially for a game in which the sensation of speed is important.

Graphics look awesome, but framerate is a serious issue. In something as fast-paced as a racing game, a high framerate is practically a necessity.

When Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed on Wii U could do 60fps, there's just no excuse to why Team Sonic Racing can't. Either that or Sumo Digital hasn't master the Switch hardware yet. This makes the Switch port of Team Sonic Racing as sloppy as the Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed port on PS Vita which capped at around 25fps at times. The only thing difference here is that the Switch doesn't dropped framerates and was able to maintain a steady 30fps whereas the PS Vita port of the previous game kept dropping framerates. Hopefully the Switch port doesn't dropped more framerate during split screen local multiplayer mode.

I care too much about framerate for racing games to get this on the Switch, but I can't really bring my PC with me and play it with the in-laws on Steam either. Guess I'll just stick with Mario Kart!

Games seems absolutely identical graphical speaking... So good... And even for frame rate... I really can't see the difference... Even if IMHO 60fps aren't so important... I always played and enjoyed games even when 60fps didn't exist...

I wonder if Sega held back the Switch review codes because they were afraid people would overreact.

Looks at comment section

Yep I see why now

@Lizuka agree

The music is so cheesy.

@patbacknitro18 Sega probably don't want to get caught in the same situation Xenon Racer did which is why they won't release footage to the masses until after they sent out the review copies. Unfortunately since most review of the Switch port had been positive, I say it's a fine port just don't expect it to wow you like Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed on Wii U did. The Wii U had the best version of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Need for Speed: Most Wanted U, Resident Evil Revelations, and Ninja Gaiden 3 but because it's a failed platform and all those are mostly third party titles, not many would care to play those versions or probably hadn't had the chance to experience them.

Seems like it runs pretty well considering were comparing a tablet to a dedicated home console that's about 8 times the size of the Switch. I'll be picking it up on my PS4 Pro, though.

Interested in this. I don't have playstation plus but I do have Nintendo online so will wait for a decent review first!

@retro_player_22 Racing Transformed didn't run at 60 fps on Wii U, it didn't even run at 30 fps at all times. Same for XB360 and PS3. Take a look.
https://youtu.be/vsYuAtoRtXo

@retro_player_22 Transformed didn't hit 60 fps on any system other than PC (with the capable hardware, of course). This game is clearly built around Transformed's assets, and it really shows given the spec differences between systems. That being said, 30 fps isn't that bad. You're eyes adjust to it quickly and most movies and television run well below 30 anyways. I remember playing through Forza Horizon 3 on my PC at 30 fps because my PC couldn't break above a consistent 50 fps and it still felt really nice as long as your not viewing 60 fps right next to it.

30fps is fine with me. I have never been able to really tell the difference.... Only when you get a massive drop- which doesn't seem to be the case with this one.

Wow that's really disappointing actually. I chose to pre-order the Switch version, while it's not enough to convince me to cancel my order it's a damn shame that this version can't run at 60fps like the other versions.

@Lizuka Same here, 30 FPS and 60 FPS always looks the same to me. I definitely notice a difference between 20 and 30 FPS, but once it goes to 30 or above it all looks the same to me. On the upside, that means I don't have to be picky about frame rate when it comes to game selection. =)

Huh... not bad. It looks pretty good. I can’t hang with the 30fps on a racer though, but one thing is for sure, that music is horrendous.

Edit: for anybody that can’t see the difference between 30 and 60fps. It’s better that you don’t. Because once you see it, you can’t go back.

If that is the actual song in the game then I am definitely turning the music all the way down. I still prefer the smoother framerate of PS4. Just looking at the scenery go by it's very flickery on the switch and that is a tad too offputting for me.

The cars and tracks don’t give me that road-gripping, zippy go-carting feel like you get in other cart racers, especially older ones. Crash Team Racing does give me that feel and I’m preferring it to what I see here

Just to be clear here, its only stable on PS4 Pro. On a normal PS4, the game's framerate goes>40fps so the feel of the game will be horrid there. Your framerate is also the amount of time you have to put in inputs. If its not steady, it'll feel extremely inconsistent.

edit: turns out even the ps4 pro has some hefty dips at times.

To the people that can't tell the difference between 60fps an 30fps, there are some people that literally just can't. I can tell the difference between up to 144fps although i can't test my eyes higher than that cause i only have a monitor that goes up to 144hz. I even ran a test with my 9 year old sister to train her eye to 144fps for two minutes then reverted to 60fps to see if she could tell a difference. She noticed immediately an said it looked alot clunkier now.
Visually, if you're trying to notice, you'll notice it as a thing in motion. To most people, 30 just doesn't look smooth at all when their eye is attuned to 60.

Even though i'm attuned to 144fps on my PC, 30fps isn't gonna bug me so long as its a consistent 30 and my control timings aren't all over the place. I'm interested in running this with my switch friends.

edit: the best example I can give you is mario kart 8. try playing the game with 3 or 4 player splitscreen. the game goes to 30fps cap then. Even if you can't visually notice a difference, your sense of feel for the controls will.

Is that the music that's actually in the game? It's absolutely terrible.

To me, 60fps isn't a big deal. If a game runs at 60fps, great, if it doesn't, oh well. No way I'm I gonna skip a game or my preferred version of a game just because it runs at 30. Portability is way more of a deciding factor to me.

NL members told me TSR on switch was gonna be a low resolution buggy mess which would be unplayable.

@ilikeike how did sega all star racing transformed get so much love when it was 30fps. Guessing you hated playing that game right?

Driveclub on PS4 is only 30fps and you cannot tell me there is no sense of speed.

@retro_player_22 go back and play the Wii U version of sonic racing transformed. Let me know how stable that 30fps is. Dunno where you are getting 60fps from.

Honestly this is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. The roster is a weak 15 characters, which is far less than the previous Sonic and SEGA racing games. I'm honestly disappointed because out of all the Sonic characters they stick with the most basic, expected ones and have no plans at all for DLC characters to expand the roster.

Switch version running at 30fps sucks. And now I won't be buying the game because a Switch is all I have. A racer needs to be as smooth as possible and this just ruined it for me. I know the game is only 40 dollars, but I would rather pay 60 dollars for a game with more content and characters than a 40 dollar one that tries to skate by on the bare minimum...

Most concerning is that God aweful music!

@spirit_flame What?! The soundtrack in this game is flatout amazing.

I'll say they did a very good job at porting the game to the Switch. Visually, it holds up incredibly well. 30 fps is a bummer but as long as it's stable 30 fps it's not a huge deal breaker

@Fidget @SuperWeird That's the main theme of the game made by Crush 40, the same people who made some of the older iconic themes of the modern Sonic games.

I have no idea whether this theme is actually available during races (probably during the last race of the story mode campaign, if previous Sonic games are anything to go by), but most of the OST is likely to just be remixes of each track/stage's original themes. I recall that they had put up a couple of samples of the soundtrack on Youtube and they were pretty great, so far.

I'm rather biased since I liked a couple of Crush 40's earlier songs in the series, but I prefer this to the overly cringe-filled music from Sonic Forces that was literally singing about what was going on in the stage or story segments (despite that also being the case here, it fits).

This is an unfair comparison when your putting the switch against PS4 pro. Come on at least have the vanilla PS4 running!! personally the switch looks great:)

@retro_player_22 need for speed certainly wasn’t best on wiiu. I have it and on pc. Pc is far superior

60FPS should be the target for both versions. I agree that is a must for a racing game.

I was already to cancel my pre- order, but changed my mind after reading a few PS4 reviews and a Switch review.

This is the Switches biggest issue, it's not as good as the PS. The small screen is great and playing Nintendo games in docked is also great, its the third party games, the Switch is always second best.

I'm not sure a Pro version of a Switch could square this circle.

@zool shock horror! A handheld console isn't as powerful as a PS4.

Good grief!

This 30 vs 60 argument is silly. It will only be an issue if you own both versions which is unlikely. Otherwise it’s fine

There's is lots of Switch footage on YouTube now. The whole storymode has now been uploaded playing the game in docked mode. It seems to run well, and I have looked through 10-12 of the races. Obviously the PS4 version looks a bit better, but the Switch version certainly holds up.
Looking forward to this.....

For all of the people saying they can't tell the difference between 60 and 30... More power to you, but it's absolutely a big deal, particularly in fast paced games. Of course, a huge caveat is to say that a steady, locked 30 will feel much better than a 60 full of stuttering. This comes from me having an overpowered PC that has spoiled me somewhat. That said, I have no problem fully enjoying things on my switch that don't always perform as well, but good frame pacing is critical (as opposed to max frame rate).

Once again, no antagonism intended, but watching a side by side video on a phone or even a TV is far different than playing something. So I'm still waiting for a proper switch review to see if you feel it during gameplay.

As I expected. The same with Sonic Forces, 30 fps on Switch.
I love my Switch. But with Sniper Elite V2 and Sonic Racing, I grabbed the XBox One version. I want to play Sonic Racing with the best graphics, 60 fps and 4K resolution

Repost from the forums
Switch version of TSR seems to have a more consistent FPS than the PS4 PRO version:
https://youtu.be/zghkeAxZ2Dc

Mario Kart looks better and runs at a locked 60fps

Enough said.

Unless the port is a total slop job mess, I can't think of a reason I would ever buy a PS4 version over a Switch version.

Graphics aren't even secondary to me, they are below even that. What's most important is if the game runs properly (and load times are only an issue if it is massively inconvenient). If the game runs well, the next most important thing is convenience of the platform, Switch trashes anything on the market for this category, blending proper physical controls, ease of use and hybrid nature. Then only after those two considerations, are graphics a concern.

As far as I am concerned the Switch's advantages of it's hybrid nature easily put it above the PS4 or Xbone. Though arguably something like a high powered phone or tablet being used as an emulation machine might be debatable more convenient they lack native physical inputs and emulation usually needs it's uncomfortable cousin: piracy.

The only thing that ever pulls me away from the Switch back to PS4 or PC are games that are only on those platforms. And Xbone only has like 2 or 3 exclusives left, making it not worth the time of day for me.

@mist true but some of us want to play a new game. MK8 is amazing but TSR and crash racing are new games so 30fps is fine as long as gameplay holds up.

I think the Switch has done the game proud.

30fps is great for me, I've been playing Nintendo games for decades and 60fps actually hurts my left eye. Also it's struggling on PS4 too, so naturally it would be even more poorly optimised on the switch. That being said, I can't take my PS4 every where I go, which is important for me because I prefer to have a gaming console in my hands all the time. Can't believe Sonic has finally done it this time, I have been suffering from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe for more than 2 years because of all the graphics and optimisation. This is a buy for me no matter how overpriced it is.

@Galarian_Lassie racing transformed was nearly unplayable on the Wii U. Especially after playing MK8

Nintendo stans are defending 30fps race games now? 😂

@kobashi100 The topic is about the PS version of Team Sonic compared with the Switch docked version, not the handheld.

You see the Switch as a handheld device, its not. Its a home console that can also be played away from the main TV.

When we compare a third party game like Team Sonic the trade off is stripped down graphics but being able to play the game in handheld mode.

As a PS4 Pro and a Switch owner I have literally no reason to ever buy the Switch version of a AAA multiplatform game unless I really want to take it with me. This holds up well visually but that framerate drop is a deal breaker, even more so when you factor in the standard PS4's split screen performance meaning this will be pretty unplayable in that regard. I dont understand how they cannot target 60fps on all platforms as Mario Kart 8 holds up well visually and locks to that target, whilst neither Sonic or Crash really benefit from higher fidelity graphics anyway. At the end of the day I've got Mario Kart for the Switch, so I'll just get Sonic for the PS4

@Rinari My vision must be terrible. I can't see a difference. I thought I would between 30 and 60, I guess not...

If you think that the ps4 version they are comparing to the switch is the pro version than the switch version doesn't look bad at all!.

I'm impressed the Switch version looks really close outside framerate being locked at 30FPS. Though 60FPS is better, having to play at 30FPS usually isn't a deal breaker with me.

I don’t like image/frame doubling so 30fps is a deal breaker for me.

The games look pretty much the same ... generic

As with most games, it all depends if you want to play it on the go. If yes, get the switch version
If you’re going to play on a tv, get ps4 or other.

Guys, you won't really see the difference between 30 and 60 fps through a YouTube video. You can see the Switch version trough pink glasses as you want. But there is always a noticeable difference between 60 and 30 fps.
I owned Sonic Forces first on Switch and I thought, it's looking awesome. Than, I played the Xbox One Version at a friend and the difference was noticeable at first seconds. Someday I sold the Switch version and today, I'm playing Sonic Forces on XBox One X

It's sometimes tough to decide for me, if I go for Switch version oder XBox One. Games like Monsterboy or Sega Mega Drive Collection are good examples for getting the Switch version, it's running the same like the other systems, but having the option to play it on the go is nice.

But in case of Team Sonic Racing, I don't really need this on the go. I have Mario Kart 8 or Fast RMX.
And I prefer Sonic Racing in it's best visual version. And 4K is a big deal. At least on Xbox One "X", where it's true 4K in most cases. Not like the half baked PS4 Pro, which delivers 2K

LoOks stunning on Switch compared to the PS4 Pro.
PS4 Pro is the better version overall and if you like to have it portable its seems super done on Switch. Total win-win here.

The people who can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps are the same people who still buy DVD's and watch them on HD televisions.

@denis09 if you tell me the human eye sees in frames, i'd laugh at you too. I'm fully aware how the human eye works, but if the brain itself isn't processing the information fast enough then that person isn't gonna tell a difference. Not everyone is the same.

Oh and nice counter argument. You sure told me.

I still cant tell the diffetence between 30 and 60. I can tell when a frame rate drops all the sudden though, like in Perfect Dark, BOTWs Lost Woods, and XC2s Torigoth.

@zool The Switch is a tablet and the PS4 is a computer. They aren't really comparable.

@denis09 the human eye cannot see in frames. do not link me to an article saying crap like that. What I said earlier was a poor mans explanation and a 'test' people can do to try an tell a difference between 60 frames and 144 frames by causing an extreme change an then reverting it back. If you noticed what I said at all, maybe you could put two an two together from your article.

If you're trying to confuse what I said about the literal frame input window due to frame time being processed with the gpu as the bottleneck (and not the cpu's frame time) with eyesight then i'm sorry, do I need to go into detail about that.

@Lizuka Probably more so a thing with attention for detail. To me the Switch runs slower but looks just fine - and, more importantly, I probably wouldn't notice if they didn't put PS4 Pro footage right next to it.

@Trajan tablets are computers so are mobile phones. PS and Switch are game consoles.

@Flammy As we all should.

@denis09 Dubious huh. Then go play something like rocket league at 144fps an come back an tell me if i'm dubious lol.
Also, I think you blew what I was getting at out of context in some areas.

Either way, you can think what you want. doesn't change anything.

I can't really tell the difference but will get the PS4 version eventually, am in no rush for this game.

@graysoncharles
Maybe so but is vanilla PS4 a constant solid 60fps, obviously the pro has a clear advantage on both vanilla PS4 and switch.

A lower frame rate alone would never deter me from purchasing a video game, as long as the visuals weren't inhibited, and the game still was fun to play. I have made my decision on this one, Nintendo Switch version, it is.

@KennyBania
You made my day😁
This is something which I don't understand. There are 4K Blu-rays out there, a lot of people already own 4K TVs. But still, DVDs are sold way better than than Blu-rays and 4K Blu-rays

And those who can't tell the difference between 60 and 30 fps are little Nintendo kids.

@Nintendo4Sonic To be honest I am against complaining about video games just to be complaining. But, and that's a big but, in a racing game the difference between 30 and 60 frames per second is a difference that even my non Nintendo grandmother and grandfather can tell.

I think a stable frame rate is more important than a high one.

But that could be just me.

@Nintendo4Sonic Because DVDs are on average cheaper than Blu-rays, while being good enough for the general public.

@retro_player_22 What an awfully misinformed and naive comment. The game most certainly did NOT run at 60fps on the Wii U 😂 In fact, check out Digital Foundry’s analysis of the PS4 and PS4 Pro versions of this game - neither are able to hold a stable 60fps so you can be damn sure that is never going to happen on the Switch. Laughable comment.

Needs an option to turn down the visuals to help with the frame rate, in my opinion. For many, it is an easy tradeoff to accept.

I'm impressed with how it looks on Switch and if there are problems all the way up to PS4 Pro with performance that suggests that optimizations might be possible... if there's enough reason (people buy it).

Also... can all the people saying they can’t see a difference between 30 and 60fps please make sure they change the video quality settings on YouTube to make sure they’re actually seeing the 60fps version of the video? smh

Keep in mind that you need to be watching the video in a browser like Chrome that supports 60fps youtube video playback to see the difference.

With that said, I can't imagine not being able to tell the difference when the two are being compared side-by-side. 30fps usually feels OK on its own terms, but it just looks... chunky when it's sitting next to a 60fps feed of the same game.

So... The Switch version looks good, is the only version with a stable frame rate (even if it's lower, I'd prefer stable over varying, and my PS4 isn't a pro so apparently it's a choice between ~40 frames with lots of drops and steady 30), and is portable. No question here I'm getting the Switch version.

Looks great and identical to the ps4 apart from some frame drops that doesn't even effect the game itself.so yeah great job.

Framerate doesn't bother me.

The blandness of the racing however....

It's a no from me. Never been able to get into Transformed, and this looks duller still.

@denis09 you can see it in a YouTube video but you'll have to open it in YouTube and change the settings to 1080p 60fps as it defaults to 30fps on most devices.

@graysoncharles Digital Foundry say the Pro locks to 60 fps far more than the standard PS4 version and performs significantly better in split screen

@Lizuka
This might help you.

@KennyBania yeah 60fps is the best Jerry, the best!

Next to no difference, 30 FPS looks great don't know why people say it's a deal breaker, they better not play any racing game before 2013 then lol

@retro_player_22 Transformed was 30 my guy.

@graysoncharles

Yes granted resolution was always going to be a win on PS4 over switch as was the frame rate. But the comparison was on PS4 pro. Digital Foundry does state performance struggles more on vanilla PS4 so not a solid 60fps. So the switch hitting a 30fps is very impressive. And the fact you can play mobile on switch is a bonus compared to PS4. To be honest these PS4/Switch comparisons annoy me anyway, it’s pretty obvious the PS4 has more horse power.

I don’t know why they compared the pro vs the Switch as opposed to the base PS4 vs Switch. I mean I’m sure it’s matter of what they had, but it’s not a good comparison.

Here’s hoping Digital Foundry does one using bass PS4

I don’t know if it’s my eyes or the video or what but I can’t really see the difference between 30fps and 60fps...

30 FPS racing is...ehhh...

But I'm fairly confident the 30 FPS Crash Team Racing remake is going to sell gangbusters so I doubt people care.

I have a problem with this video comparison and here's why, they compared the Switch version to a version being played on the PS4 Pro. Really? Why not an OG PS4. That's always bothered me even during my PC gaming days. Reviews are already based on someone's personal opinion but when you go out and play the game on top of the line hardware which the majority of folks don't even own, then your review in my opinion is already stacked in the games favor. I still recall my disappointment as a teenager playing PC games using the "recommended" hardware and the game still not living up to the expectations that you receive from reading reviews because those folks would and continue to play these games with PC's that cost several thousands of dollars. Another example, Kinect games on the Xbox 360 when they were reviewed it was in perfect and ideal room environments that most consumers could not replicate, for whatever reason, be it space issues or lighting. Microsoft even did that when presenting Kinect games to the press and public. Red Dead Redemption 2 is a more recent example. From what I've read, heard and personally seen, that game runs like poop when played on OG Xbox One and PS4 hardware and yet a lot of reviewers failed to leave that out of their reviews. Fallout 76 is another. I own two copies. It runs and looks like @ss on my OG Xbox One (playing it off a SSD does help but not much). Night and day difference on my wife's Xbox One X. There is even a significant difference on the Xbox One S (draw distance, frame rate and textures are improved) and yet how many reviewers pointed that out. Wouldn't it be nice if reviewers were more transparent about these things or is it too much to ask for?

Yes 60 fps is better, but ps4 isn't stable 60. So better 30 locked than an unstable 60.

@Indominus_B the reason why you can't tell is because the video you're watching already has a set framerate (probably 30fps). So even if the PS4 has 60 and Switch has 30, if you drop both into a video editor, add graphics, and then spit it out to be embedded in your Nintendo-centric webpage... then you'll only be able to see the frames per second that the video was encoded at for the embed, NOT the original fps of the console (unless it's the same as the encode). There's no way to have 2 different fps, side by side, in one video.

Racers I care about FPS and Graphics are usually not silly kart games - and already bought other hardware to play those racers on.

30FPS is fine for this (unless broken an dipping into 20s all the time) and looks great on both.

I would be surprised if the Switch is not the best selling version in the end.

The real focus should've been the framerate...

the people that say they don't notice 30 vs 60fps difference. wth. have you even played fast rmx then a 30fps game? it's literally day and night, you can already tell one is less fluid and responsive.

sometimes i wonder if some of them straight up tell lies.

Man, I just can't believe there are so many gamers who give a crap about frame rates. Over thirty years of gaming and people are concerned with frame rates. Bloody frame rates of all things. Good lord. Just can't believe it.
I'm buying this game because it looks fun. Yeah, I said fun.
Frame rates.... my god.

I'll wait for reviews. Frame-rate is typically not a great concern. I still have the old Sonic Racing on PS3, so not sure if there's even much benefit to this new one. The main detail I take from the footage is game seems so slow paced regardless of system.

Zelda on the Switch is 30fps. But that game looks and plays great.

Sure you'll notice more smooth visuals, this won't impact gameplay at all though. And it's a solid 30fps vs the PS4 version that's not a solid 60fps.

@electrolite77 you are wrong if that's what you think. There is talk of a Switch Pro coming, that's because Nintendo realise the Switch needs more power. Where are all the New AAA third party games? We either get stripped down versions or we get 6 year old games.

@electrolite77 I can understand some one not buying a game because it looks boring but because it runs at 30 fps, seriously?

These are the same gamers who then go and buy an indie game that looks and sounds 8-bit.
The type of gamers who had no problems playing PS2 games but won't play Switch games because they the look like PS3 ones?
I really don't know how how some gamers survived the early console generations 😂

Looks like 720p 30fps. PS4 is 1080p 60fps. If you have both platforms, the choice is obvious.

@ramu-chan certainly is. The version that allows me to play on my commute to work is the one I buy.

@retro_player_22,

Apart from the fact that Sonic racing transformed did not run at 60fps on the Wii U,there is no reason at all.

@ramu-chan,

Depends if the handheld mode is important to you or not,for me I would personally buy the Switch version as I am not tied to the T.V.

Well I've read a few reviews now and it seems the general consensus is its worse than the previous sonic all-stars, which I hated, so will definitely buy CTR instead.

Sonic, on Nintendo? Don't make me laugh!
Mario Kart 64 for life!

60fps would have been nice but a solid 30fps is more than adequate. 4 player doesn't look too great though, but that won't come up very often.

@Indominus_B I'm not one to be fussy about frame rate, in fact I find it quite annoying that modern gamers have such an obsession over it, but its very easy to tell a difference between 30 and 60 FPS. Doom and Wolfenstein 2, both of which I own on the Switch and also the PS4. The difference is absolutely noticeable in the smoothness of the movement. That said, if you come home from work in the evening, and started playing a 30fps game instead of a 60fps, you are not going to give it much thought at all.

I can tell the frame rate usually right away, but it doesn't matter to me, what sucks is that during the Wii days the first All-Stars Racing game was also 30fps, you'd think they could finally go for that 60 y'know.

To make things worse Sonic Riders on the GameCube and its sequel on Wii were a constant 60 fps and looked great, F-Zero GX-like.

Sonic should use a Flintstones car.

This is really disappointing. The prime example of this genre runs at 60fps...why didn't they design the game to run at 60fps on the switch? What we're seeing is a stable-enough 30fps, but even the PS4 versions run 4 player mode at 30fps... which means 4-player on switch will probably be low 20s.

I don't see much difference. That said, for a Sonic game it looks surprisingly slow! I mean, both versions.

@electrolite77 if you are right it is because the way the Switch has been received and not why it was developed. The Switch was Nintendo's home console that could be used away from the main TV. A year into its release Nintendo said that its use was 50-50 between a home console and a handheld only device. People now refer to the Switch as a handheld.

Looking a couple of years ahead the Switch will be the main handheld for anyone who wants a handheld that can also be used to play Nintendo games on a TV. Gamers who play mostly on a big 4k screen will have a PS or Xbox as their home console for all other games, including VR. If they don't already.

Nintendo will have by default lost the home console market. Maybe that will be a good thing.

I'm more surprised by the fact that they ran the game at 60 on PS4 rather than Switch version running at 30, lol.

It doesn't really bother me though. I was actually considering it on Switch for a good while. I think I may actually just hold off. There could be modding potential for the PC version.

Thanks for the comparison share. Gonna get it for PS4.

@electrolite77 I don't think I am missing the point, it's just that I have a different point of view. Yes the Switch is a cash cow for Nintendo and they will follow that cash, but look what happened after the Wii.

I have been with Nintendo since the start of the N64 days and have never owned a games console other than a Nintendo one. So why am I thinking of getting a PS5? Because Nintendo seem to be overwhelmed by the Switch success and have shifted direction. A mini or Pro Switch was never on the cards at the Switch Launch, but Nintendo now realise the Switch has replaced the 3ds but leaving the docked Switch as second best.

Having tasted Botw and the old Skyrim I see what I have been missing. And I would rather play a new Skyrim type game than a six year old stripped down version on the Switch. So we need a Pro to stop the Switch ending its run like the Wii did.

Indi games were never what the Switch was for. By now we should have N64 and Cube games on the Switch but indi games and their revenue has put a stop to that. The Switch is now more of a free for all that a Nintendo experience.

30fps? FAIL. What a disappointment after looking forward to this game. No purchase from me 🙄

@electrolite77 the current Switch is doing well, and while Nintendo are reaping the rewards they know they are unsure what direction the Switch is going. While some indi games on the Switch is good, it's now out of control. And Ports, look at NL's review of Assassins Creed. Developers are just dumping games on to the Switch.

Ask any salesperson and they will tell you that if you offer to much choice you won't sell anything. Nintendo's own game sales will suffer. With more choice gamers won't buy more games and play more games, they will be more selective.

The Switch will ever sell as many units as say the Wii and DS combined and Nintendo can't make enough games to satisfy its customers so it relies on third party stuff. But not poor and old ports.

The Switch is half way through its life span, sales will peek and slow and the bubble will pop unless Nintendo can seperate portable game play from large screen TV gaming. Or is that not what they were good at back in the day?

i have bought the switch and xbox one version. and to be honest - i preffer the switch version! the xbox one version has serious fps issues - framedrops from 60 to 25 sometimes. so it is not a fluid 60 fps experience, where the switch holds the 30 without any issues. a friend with the one x can play that game in 4k with rock solid 60 fps, but not on the xbox one s. also the lighting and shadow effects are better on switch than on the normal xbox for whatever reason. - switch version is my love for now steam version is comming soon to - but after i have bought the game already twice for 40 bucks each, i will wait for a sale on the pc version haha - but - i frkn love this game. not as good as transformed, but still a great game, especially for only 40 bucks

@electrolite77 you said "
It seems to me you’re trying to extrapolate your own personal dislike of the Switch (over not enough games, or is it too many games?) into a much bigger issue with the system.". Not so.

I do not in general buy eshop games, for many reasons. I buy physical copies. After a good launch year we had a poor second year and a slow start to this year. Each gamer will have their must have and not interested in, different Nintendo games. So another gamer may think last year was a good year, its subjective, but for me it was poor. That said third party games have filled the gaps. But, that has given rise to more you tube reviewers comparing the Switch version with others, and it is always about how much the Switch version suffers. That is not always a bad thing as it is a trade off for playing in portable mode. But not all games are designed for a small screen and not every wants to play every game portable. Example: I bought Team Sonic yesterday, a game I will play on my big HD 4k TV and not on the small screen (the Switch version is more expensive). I'm also playing Disgaea 5 on the small screen and that works fine.

I see my gaming future as, using the Switch as my new improved ds with the ability to play Nintendo games on my TV. And big blockbuster games on my yet to purchase PS.

I'm not sure what percentage of gamers are loyal to one system. I would think more Nintendo gamers are. I buy and play x amount of games a year and that won't change if I have a Switch and a PS, but it will mean that a good percent of my spending will no longer be with Nintendo.

Maybe I am being to loyal, using positive criticism because Nintendo seem to be heading in a different direction than I would like them to go.

@eRaz0r Quick question I've seen back and forth conflicting comments on. Is the opening intro/Crush 40 song included on the Switch version??

@Godlike_Virus unfortunately not. no intro video is playing on switch. but thats the only difference i have seen so far besides the framerate.

@Godlike_Virus but, the crush 40 song is playing in time trial mode. idk if it is a bug or if sega just wanted to save costs for the cartrige. on xbox the game has 20GB, on switch it'S 8 gb according to the eshop. they could just have put the intro in an extra download, maybe it is just a bug. but - i for myself, really don't care. the game is great and makes so much more fun than mario kart 8. see ya online

@retro_player_22 transformed on wii u was like all the other console versions 25 to 30 fps. only pc had 60+ fps.

team sonic racing on switch does have NO framedrops, much better visuals and buttery smooth 30 fps. so much better than transformed on wii u or xbox 360.