Mario Tennis Aces Won’t Let You Play A Regular Game Of Tennis, And Players Aren't Happy

I couldn't help but read the quotes in (Jim Sterling's) Duke Amiel Du H'ardcore's voice.

I just discovered this unfortunate state of affairs 2 hours ago and it bummed me out. Not being able to play a normal game of tennis in a tennis game, actually makes no sense and should be corrected. My brother, who’s a tennis nut, stared at the screen in disbelief going “REALLY?!?!?... ugh, that sucks.” And after a little thought, I agreed. Fix that Nintendo. That’s an easy one. Get on it.
Edit: also, you kinda blew it with no Mii’s and the music is obnoxious/unfitting for a game of tennis.

Yes, but Waluigi is in it.

They seriously need to rectify this in a future update. Just playing standard-length tennis battles with my brother like we did with the N64 version is what I was most looking forward to with this game. He isn't an avid gamer and instead prefers sports, so Mario sports games have always been a nice compromise for us to come together. Having heated matches with him is the main reason I wanted this game, but he already seems bored with how short the matches are. I have to say, this leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. When I shell out $60 for a tennis game, I would expect it to have even the most basic features you'd think are a given for tennis. It's inexcusable, considering you can have longer matches of multiple sets in the Adventure and even Tournament Mode. Camelot really needs to update this in the future, as this is a huge negative for me personally.

It has always irked me that the default is a 2 game set. Even in the single player tournament finals, it's always just 3 sets of 2 games iirc. And I know it's done for quickfire matchplay online but I wish there was an option to play a full first to 6 games set online. It really sucks that you can lose just one serve and, if you're serving second you don't even get to try and break back.

I'd happily play the full 5 sets with CPU opponents in the single player tournaments too. It wouldn't be over so quickly then.

While I am not that fussed about this I do wonder why yous are reporting this story from Eurogamer like it is shocking news when this very site reviewed the bloody game?!

Seriously is it just me that has noticed the site has nose dived in quality over the past year or so?!

I don't mind the omission, but surely at least add "real rules" for local multiplayer and online with friends.

Tournaments should stick to what it is currently though. I don't want to play a full game online with randoms as that would just take way too long as a commitment. Quicker games are best for online play.

One of the most dumbest things to get upset over. So it doesn't have an option for full 6 set match. What's the big deal? Most playing this games are gamers who are looking for fun yet quick way to play online or on local multiplayer. The lack of such an option isn't going to kill anyone. These cry babies need to get over it.

If one game isn't long enough, play three?

........so whats the issue? I mean this doesn't seem like a deal breaker. Sure you have fewer options for setting up matchs like in previous games, but it doesn't seem necessary.

@patbacknitro18 @Ashunera84 Exactly, they are crying over nothing. Like 2 years olds having a tantrum.

@SBandy Agreed. This should have been included, or at least mentioned, in the review, not posted as "News" a few days after release...

@Shade_Koopa Alright, thanks. It's not like I paid $60 for the game expecting it to have what literally every past Mario Tennis game has had. That would be like calling people a crybaby for complaining if the next Smash game only had one stock matches because most players "are gamers who are looking to have a fun yet quick way to play online or on local multiplayer." No. Restricting the options and thereby limiting player choice is not a good thing. That's alienating part of their audience.

Nintendo is a business and we are consumers. It's not having a "tantrum" to voice our concerns when our wallets are involved. Also keep in mind that some things matter more to some than others. As someone who's been with the series for all the games (excluding Ultra Smash), I'm not in it just for the new fighting-game-esque experience; I like the core tennis gameplay and being able to play full length matches. Please note my comment above about this preventing me from being able to play with my brother as well, which is the main reason I bought the game.

It's cool to have differing opinions on what is and isn't important in a game, but I don't think it's fair to say I'm being petty or a crybaby here, especially since it would have been such a simple addition on Camelot's part. I know you weren't calling me out specifically or anything, but I'm in that pool of people you're referring to.

I like the current set up and it is all I would really play but more options for others would be nice.

@Not_Soos So you think that not having those options devalues the 60$ you spent on the game? Doesn't this game have far more content than previous Mario tennis games? With strong online multiplayer support, as well as DLC planned to extend the life of the game for a while? Ya no missing a few options is really something to cry about.

@patbacknitro18 I honestly don't know if I would've bought the game if I had known that was the case. It may not devalue the game for everyone, but as a long time fan of the series who likes it for the fun of playing a regular game of tennis locally, it does for me.

Edit: To clarify, Aces is still a great game overall; I had a blast with the demo, and I'm playing it and enjoying myself right now, actually. But for me personally, local multiplayer has always been the main draw of any Mario sports title, and it gives me a chance to do something with my brother who likes sports but not so much video games. But without being able to play a regular game of tennis, he's not interested.

@Not_Soos
I think people are calling you a "crybaby" because your tone, unfortunately, is kinda...well, whiny.

Like you say, you're allowed to have your critiques, but the way you're phrasing things here and in your posts on the forums frame you as throwing a bit of a tantrum. Maybe you're just not super great at controlling your writing tone, but that's just how you're coming off.

Also, I think you were the guy who tried to say Aces needed to be more like Overwatch at launch with more to do even if it is mostly an online title. I lost all respect for your opinion at that point because anybody who was there knows Overwatch was bereft of content at launch and also was 60 dollars, so... yea, no.

You seem REALLY hung up on this game, though. To an almost unhealthy degree. Maybe spend more time actually playing the game rather than complaining about it and you may find more to enjoy?

@rallydefault I...never said that about Overwatch, you must have me mistaken. Also, please read my edit. I only made one post about it in the forums, and I don't think it was anything remotely offensive. I always try to be as innofensive and respectful of others' opinions as possible; if I wasn't above, I do apologize, but it was only in response to the "crybaby" accusation. Aces is NOT in the least a bad game, I'm not saying that at all. I know I didn't communicate it well, but Camelot's hard work really shows, and I'm happy for those who can appreciate it for what it is. But in lacking what previous Mario Tennis games had, I'm just not sure it has the longevity for me personally to justify the price tag. Again, sorry if I came across as abrasive.

Another Nintendo fail. Sad!

@electrolite77 Thanks. As I was saying to someone just yesterday, this is why I hardly comment, whether it's here or YouTube or anywhere. I always feel like I'm going to be attacked for voicing my opinion because something I said is taken out of context, because I see it happen to so many others. At the end of the day, we're all just gamers and, fundamentally, humans. There's no need for people to get malicious about things.

Sushi striker has more content.

I knew this a few hours before I bought it. I still bought it. I’m not looking for a real tennis game. That would be akin to being upset that you can’t manage rosters like FIFA while playing Mario Strikers.

If something isn't broken, don't try to fix it, please!
Now that this game was released broken, It is a much needed update for Nintendo to release now.

Mario Tennis has always had the option to select the length of the match with the amount of games and sets you want since GBC, as well as being able to simply choose the court you wanna play with a simple, user-friendly Select Court screen. Was it REALLY necessary to remove these EXTREMELY BASIC things from the game?

I don't care about little kids these days who just turn on the game to play a quick match and then turn the console off and never enjoy the game as it is supposed to, no. What really worries me, is that Nintendo is paying attention to THAT market instead of real gamers, and here we are: Aces is a failure with a solid gameplay, but still a failure.

This game definitely looked like it needed some more development time before hitting shelves.

The convenience of patches has made developers and publishers horribly complacent, and oftentimes our limited storage takes quite a beating in the process.

For example, the retail version of Rocket League should never have been released in the state that it was released in. The size of the updates now outweigh the content that is on the cartridge itself. If I had known that, I probably would have skipped it.

Likewise, when I picked up Aces on Friday, I noticed the "2GB download required" note on the back cover (DOOM managed to get away with this as well as opposed to the white banner of death), which seemed especially scummy because Nintendo themselves were doing it with their own software. I was really tempted to pass upon seeing that, and I have never felt that way in regards to a first-party release from Nintendo. If they want to continue going on this path going forward, I will be tempted to throw in the towel and quit.

Fortunately the update was only 90MB or so, but it seems stupid that we can't even opt out of downloading updates that are of no relevance to the majority of the Western market (e.g. the inclusion of Chinese/Korean options). I haven't tested it yet, but this wouldn't be such a problem if updates can be backed up and used on any Switch console (there is the local wireless method, but I am not certain as to whether this performs the same function).

It astounds me, it really does, that Nintendo managed to be so much more generous during the Wii U era, in which they suffered considerable financial difficulty (free online, continuing to release ambitious and niche games such as Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Xenoblade Chronicles X, free downloadable game with Mario Kart 8, lower retail price for games, at least in ANZ etc.) and yet they are being so stingy with the Switch (paid online, partial cartridge releases, day one patches for almost every game) in spite of its runaway success.

If these kind of sloppy anti-consumer practices is what Nintendo's future is going to look like, then perhaps I would prefer living in the past. People joke about Nintendo being "doomed" in regards to their market share and financial state, but the real doom, I feel, is in their adoption of the worst regressions in the industry, and for a time, many of us I'm sure thought that Nintendo would be above all of that.

Btw, can i still play Casual Mode like Wii Sports ? ( No Gimmick)

""2GB download required" note on the back cover "
What ??

@Anti-Matter You can disable the trick shots and everything, yes. And you can turn off court gimmicks. There's even an option to play by swinging the Joy Con as a Wii Remote, so it should be right up your alley.

@Not_Soos A) The crybaby comment was targeted to the people demanding a refund and addition reimbursement. The artical doesn't mention the Reddit post asking for such ridiculousness.

B) There is literally nothing stopping you from playing this game with your brother. If he throwing a fit over a little setting, that's sounds like a tantrum to me.

@electrolite77 I never said anything about NOT challenging Nintendo. Feel free to do so. In my OPINION, I find it stupid that people are throwing a fit over a little setting. Whether I respect an opinion or not is irrelevant.

@Not_Soos
Oh, i see.
Btw, what are peoples crying about here ?
I had read the whole sentences above and some comments here, but i still confused.

People are complaining that Mario Tennis isn't like real Tennis...

Wow.

Those Reddit posts read like some elegantly crafted hyperbole. Elegant, but not to the point.

Like, why not though? More options can only be good.

@Shade_Koopa Alright, well thanks for clarifying. Had I known who you were referring to, I wouldn't have responded in the first place. I hope I didn't sound offensive, but I hope you can also understand where I was coming from, as your original comment sounded as though anyone upset by this was worthy of crybaby status. I like to think that I'm a big boy. Anyways, hope there's no hard feelings. Like I said, my brother isn't really into gaming hardly at all, and I'm not a sports guy, unlike him. So anything that can bring us closer together, especially now that he's married and has a place of his own, is really important to me. I thought Aces would be that, but neither of us are happy with the way local multiplayer is set up. It's still a great game, but it's very disheartening this feature isn't included. I'm not sure if you've played previous Mario Tennis games; newcomers to the series surely won't have a problem with this missing feature, but as someone who has played all the way back to the N64 one and likes to play at least a best-of-3-sets match, it's just very puzzling it's not there when everything else about Aces is superb.

@Anti-Matter If you don't mind the short length of the Wii Sports Tennis matches, you won't have a problem here and I would highly recommend the game. But unlike previous Mario Tennis games which let you customize the number of sets and number of games per set, Aces doesn't allow you to do that, so you're stuck with very short matches that typically end in no longer than maybe 5-10 minutes.

@Not_Soos I have no sense of empathy. There isn't any hard feelings to be had in the first place.

I do find it stupid they are complaining over a little setting. I mean, it can be easily patch later, if need. This is a Mario game, not the virtia tennis games. Gameplay should be the priority, not a mundane option.

This is my opinion, not a fact.

@Not_Soos
5 - 10 minutes ?
Yay, sounds good to me.
I don't really like too long matches.
Well, maybe Nintendo can add more Specific rules in the future from Updates.

"Deep analysis", "mental warfare", "adaptability of techniques"...

This is Mario Tennis, a tennis game with cartoon characters. Some people are too serious about their video games.

A lot of people are comparing this game to fighting games and I haven't looked into why. But can you imagine a fighting game match going 8 rounds?

@Nincompoop Thank you! A voice of reason among the madness!

@Shade_Koopa

Mario tennis certainly falls on the arcade side instead of sim gaing side. But NFL Blitz had 4 quarters just like a real NFL game. NBA Jam has 4 quarters just like an NBA game. NHL Hitz has 3 periods just like an NHL game. Mario Tennis til now matched a tennis game length. It seems like an odd oversight and I hope it gets patched in. I'm not sure you are into sports but I can see how it would lower enjoyment. To me I think of say a football game where your only option is first to two touchdowns. That game could still be fun, but the overall loungevity would be severly hampered for me.

@cleveland124 Arcade usually implies short, quick action. So removing this settings seem to help in that regard. If it doesn't get patched later, then no big deal. People can just get over it.

@Shade_Koopa

It's all a matter of personal taste. I agree, gameplay is the most important thing, and the new trick shot moves in Aces are fantastic. But I think it's fun to play with the classic rules as well. Mario Tennis Open and Ultra Smash had longer matches like I'm asking for, but the gameplay is pretty lacking in my opinion, so the games are comparatively poor. I wouldn't be upset about Aces lacking this one feature if it wasn't in every other Mario Tennis game.

I think an accurate comparison is Mario Party. The default way to play is 20 turns, which may take you around an hour. They tried to streamline this by making the boards significantly smaller in the Mario Party games on 3DS which greatly took away from the overall gameplay experience. It doesn't matter if the minigames are the best they've ever been if the length of the game prevents you from having matches long enough to get super competitive with your friends. I know those games had other problems as well, like linear boards, but still, I don't think a Mario Party game that ended after, say, 5 rounds instead of 20 would be nearly as fun. Sure, smaller rounds are great to have as an option for those who prefer a quick session, and I would never suggest they get rid of it. But they also shouldn't get rid of being able to play a standard game of Mario Party.

I understand this may seem like a small gripe, but it matters to a great deal of us who played the previous games in the series because it completely changes the way Mario Tennis could always be played. It could be as arcade-y or as close to a legitimate game of tennis as you wanted, and I just wish that option was still there, just like how Smash Bros.--a game just as cartoony--has always been able to appeal to both casual fans looking to play with items/hazards and those looking for a more competitive experience. But as Alex says, that's enough waffling. I'm at least glad for you and all those who can fully enjoy the game for what it is.

I can't believe the Mario Tennis fandom of all things has become as split as Sonic's.

I’m sure Nintendo will patch it if this many people are upset.

It doesn't really bother me, but I'm not against more rule and gameplay toggles in virtually any game.

What I really want is an offline doubles cpu tournament mode, as well as built in support for local/wireless player tournaments. Hoping they flesh these things out in some future updates.

It makes no sense for the option to not be there like it always has been, but having played a lot of matches in Aces this weekend with a friend, on my own, and online, I think people saying it’s game ruining is a bit much. Got to find something to whine about online I guess.

@Regpuppy I'm pretty certain local wireless support is coming in like a month. You can see it in the TV commercial with a small disclaimer at the bottom about it coming in a future update.

Regardless of what anyone says, this most basic of options should be in there. Best of 3 for online is fine but not having the option to play at least a 6 game set locally is bizarre and there is no excuse. This is not being a 'cry baby' or getting upset. It's expecting the most basic feature to be in the new game of a series that's always had this basic feature.I haven't played it locally yet but if I was playing it with my mates we'd want to play a 6 game set like we used to in basically every single tennis game I've ever owned going back to the 80's.

@Gen0neD lol this is like Capcom Street fighter v without arcade mode during initial launch. Awaiting season pass for Mii/classic tennis. That is what Wario would do.

I don’t see the problem.

If you want to play a realistic tennis game choose a tennis sim instead of Mario Tennis. It’s like expect a FIFA game match to last 90 minutes (I shudder just thinking about it), or Mario Kart to be more like Grand Turismo.

I mean, options are good and all and it shouldn’t be a problem for Nintendo to offer those options, but it is not as shocking or problematic as some people are trying to make it.

Another thing the internet shouldn't be upset with.

Edit: I Forgot that this was released on the 22nd.
But Still, not a tennis person. i'll pick this up later when i'm ready.

@electrolite77 So it's ridiculous and childish to think that a few options missing from 1 of the many game modes devalues a 60$ game and makes it not worth buying? No whats childish is crying about something that makes hardly any difference at all in the game. And it's not because Nintendo made it, had anyone made this game then the same logic would apply. The content in the game is well worth 60$, and just because a few options for 1 game mode is missing that doesn't mean that it was a terrible purchase. How about respecting that opinion :3

@Euler
Waluigi number 1!

I don’t understand why this wasn’t picked up by the review on this very website!?

@Not_Soos this site does get some people who are a bit harsh with flaming these days, I understand why you don’t often comment. It sucks, it used to be a friendly community (though it’s not always so bad, it varies from post to post though and you never know when someone is going to randomly go off on you). I actually see your point and agree, sure it’s a solid game but it makes it all the more puzzling that Nintendo didn’t include such a basic option especially considering the story mode includes longer matches.

Heck, I’m still working my way through the story and wasn’t aware of that restriction on multiplayer. Dang, that’s unfortunate, especially given the story feels like it’s going to be really short (not that I expected a long story in a tennis game) and, if anything, I’d prefer shorter matches against the CPU and longer matches against other humans. Fingers crossed they patch it in, I’m one of those players that needs a little time with my opponents to get in the groove, the shorter matches tend to not work out in my favor, haha

It’s a brilliant game but lack of solo options outside of adventure mode is disappointing - three tournaments and no doubles in those or custom options - feels like a backwards step from 3ds version. I hope they listen and patch stuff in. Some people wanna play tennis and see records of cups and who has won what - maybe when I start adventure mode it will feel brilliant but I think it’s an easy win to keep the solo format for outside that mode like the 3ds version.

@SBandy not just this article either. There was another “shocking news” story since the game’s release about not being able to select the court - again, something that a review should have picked up.

It’s almost like the reviews were so busy being impressed by everything the game does well that they failed to notice important omissions, or too eager to rush out an early gushing review to fully test all the options.

I wonder if the game would have scored worse (maybe just a point or 2) if the reviewer had noticed these before publishing the review.

I mean it’s one thing to publish a post-release “news” story about fans making memes up about Sad Yoshi, or to comment on the online infrastructure (which the reviewer was unable to fully test), but these missing options should all be picked up in a thorough review.

@Anti-Matter on the back of 're games box, yes. For additional online features and support for Korean and Chinese.

Come on Nintendo, patch it in!

What a funny world we live in where a gaming site reports a few random online comments as news just because they commented on Reddit. Then this site's news is that site reported some random person's comments from another site so it must be bad even though we didn't notice it ourselves or think it was an issue when reviewing the game.

Now everyone is losing their minds because the matches may not be that long even though they last a reasonable amount of time and you can just immediately get back into the action anyway.

The game is great fun and I'm loving the adventure mode too so I'm just gonna go back to playing it

@Galenmereth I'm pretty sure I already point out that whether or not I'm respectful to anyone is irrelevant.
Calling people's opinions out is nothing new. Why should I "respect" an opinion on something that is utterly pointless to begin with?

I'm sorry, but didn't you review the game?🤔

All you need to know is even the most bare bones game in the series "Ultra Smash" on the Wii U had an option to choose number of games/sets.

There's simply no excuse for the option not being in "Aces" as well for those that want it, another Nintendo F-UP!

There should be an option to set the game/set count to anything you want.

What a load of bollocks, match length is perfect,

@gaga64 I've seen those stories too but you can choose what court you play on. The game chooses at random but you pick which courts it chooses from and could turn off every course but the one you wanted. I'm guessing the idea is to have lots of shorter games as you're always going straight back into a match.

@Baker1000 The Star Cup tournament finals is a 5 set match but that is the only appearance in the entire game.

Not bought it or intend to, but isn't it more a party game with a tennis theme instead of a tennis game with Mario characters? I think its supposed to be for casuals and videogame players put off by the real world rules, so Nintendo changed them to be more fun.

@Galenmereth Hah, yeah right. We both know it doesn't work that way. Anyway, ending the conversation here. It's about to get off topic.

@Galenmereth I think you've got that a bit wrong. Because you see, you can understand a persons opinion, which will then help you see all of the ways that it is wrong. Just because you understand it, doesn't mean you have to agree with it. If anything it helps you see the many ways you disagree with it.

Why can't he just play best of 5? Maybe Nintendo will release dlc as I don't imagine it being very much work to alter game parameters.

Yes you can! Utter rubbish

So a tennis game where you can’t actually play a game of tennis. I was on the fence with this one, but the lack of a full match option pushes me to the ‘no purchase’ side. I’m surprised this wasn’t mentioned in the review

Reserved this last night for collection today but think I might skip it I mean you should be able to make the games as long or as short as you like and if you wanna play a full set that should be a basic option

This is NOT a tennis sim, it’s just a bit of arcade fun. The game hasn’t been designed around in depth strategies even I can see that. Did he not figure this out when you’re running around as a spiked-shelled giant fire-breathing dinosaur holding a tennis racket?

@Shade_Koopa "One of the most dumbest things" Oh the ironing is delicious.

@SBandy "Seriously is it just me that has noticed the site has nose dived in quality over the past year or so?!"

It's not just you. I'm finding myself checking this site less and less (it used to be my go-to site for Nintendo news) They seem to be churning out articles at a rate of knots these days, but it's quantity over quality for the most part.
'I liked them before they were cool'

I got this game on release the other day and I paid £6 for it... So disappointed it's beyond easy and takes no time at all to fully complete, all characters are already unlocked which was meh part from a few and it's just so dull, trading mine in at end of week lol

Realism aside, it's not difficult to understand why people might want to play a tennis match with more than two games.

It's like if they capped the number of stocks in Smash Bros. at three. I mean, I normally play at three anyway, so it wouldn't be the biggest setback in the world. But sometimes I like to play with five stocks, and I appreciate having that option. I doesn't hurt having five stocks as an option, and I can't see any reason to remove it.

This is how people feel about Aces. Some people want to play a longer match of tennis. Not because they 'need the realism', but because it's a fun option to have in a video game, and one they've grown used to enjoying in past Mario Tennis titles. And they can't understand why it's disappeared.

The internet blows everything out of the proportion, and the most extreme reactions are usually the ones that get the most coverage. Which means we have some people kicking off about this, and other criticising anyone who feels at all sad about an option they liked disappearing.

I just wish we could... tone it down a bit.

@carlos82 yeah I heard that, it just sounds like unnecessary faff if you want to change to a specific court.

Smash Bros does it well - have the full selection available with a random option and the ability to limit what comes up in the random selection.

News about Reddit users' opinions.

Well, I guess someone probably complained about not being able to turn off items and anti-gravity in Mario Kart 8 as well, and having a "regular" gokart race.

Nintendo arbitrarily removing options?! In other news, water is wet.

I smell a update incoming! A pity, it would not have been needed if they included those options in the first place. Bye bye precious memory-space...

@Nincompoop Spot on.

@Shade_Koopa

Arcade/sim in this regard means realistic vs. over the top gameplay. Arcade in general doesn't imply shortened gameplay as arcades are designed to get you hooked for hours so you keep pumping money into the machine. Do you own the game? I'm asking because you don't seem like a sport fan in general if you can't see how this could impact someones enjoyment.

Well that's stupid, you lose strategy and challenge with a set-up like that. May as well play Chess with only 2 pieces. Anyway, this is why I skipped Aces and am not being convinced otherwise.

As for the folks putting the reviewer at fault, there's no way he or she would've known something like this unless specifically looking for it. Reviewers aren't told to a review a game in the way other gamers would, they review it as themselves.

And then comes the National Gamers Association, always pretending to know what everyone should want and who's the crybaby for not wanting the exact same things (what a high IQ!).

@Shade_Koopa

"Calling people's opinions out is nothing new. Why should I "respect" an opinion on something that is utterly pointless to begin with?"

I mean I guess if you want to make a general comment that an option in your opinion isn't a big deal that would be fine. But you haven't brought anything new to this thread beyond that. If I really thought something was pointless I wouldn't spend time calling out people who didn't think it was pointless. I guess I think my time is too valuable to engage in pointless internet flame wars. But keep being an internet hero random web poster.

@Shade_Koopa -or maybe you need to pull your head out of your backside and understand the idea that a tennis game that doesn't allow you to play an actual game of tennis via the settings is a ludicrous concept.

The issue I have found with this is I bought it to play with the family - 4 player local. With only playing best of 3 games, not all players get to serve. It would be nice to customize best of 6 and choose 1,3 or 5 sets. Wouldn’t be hard to set up.

These people realize it's "Mario" tennis right? All this talk of mental warfare in a game such as this is pretty laughable.To me at least.

Yeah I thought this was a very strange omission as well. This should be easily patchable right? Please fix this, Nintendo.

To be honest I think the game is a little lacking in modes for that matter anyway. Like, it's nowhere near as bad as Ultra Smash, but still. Adventure Mode is also kinda lacking so....

Nintendo fanboys are amazing.

I can understand being upset, but the game is a blast to play, and that’s all that matters.

Honestly I’m not very good, so I rely on racket breaking for about 40% of my wins. 😂

It needs to be there as an option. Why isnt it there? Answer the question jerk!

Change game type from standard to extended in game type. Sure, you can’t get more than a 2 game 1 set game, but hey, it’s better than nothing.

I'm sending my preordered copy back to Amazon. Was really looking forward to this game but I will not support such a shallow game.

@Rontanamo_Bay this isn't the type of game where voice chat would be needed nor instituted in the least for obvious reasons.

@MegaVel91 This is Mario Tennis, not Virtua Tennis or anything else of the sort. I see no point in complaining over a missing setting that is pointless.

The fact that people are returning a good game because ONE option is missing, is stupid. Asking for more reimbursement for "false advertisement" is stupid. People are stupid (And I am no exception to that rule).

@cleveland124 Yes, I own the game. No, I'm not a sport fan in any sense of the word. The option of a 6 game set would just make the matches longer than need be. Many of my friends agree, though neither of us are Tennis fans (at least not real tennis). Also, I wasn't trying to add any more to the conversation. This comment section is a flame war anyway. Which will die out and move on to the next new "thing" to complain about. And I know I'm no Hero. I'm FAR from being one.

@Beatley82 shrugs not lost on me.

@The_Mysteron they are churning out articles more now than ever because the Switch is the hottest thing right now.

@Pod

Um... you CAN turn off items though...

I've already got a copy of Ultra Smash, so I'm good on regular tennis. I have Aces which is by far the superior title.

@BLD
Well, I'll be [insert derogatory term]. I guess I just never attempted to do so, and didn't imagine it to be an option.

@EasyDaRon Never really notice that setting in the previous games. I guess I found it to be a pointless option.

@Yorumi Guilty as charged. I never said anything about my comments being any less stupid or childish. If you find what I'm saying insulting and disrespectful, that's on you guys. I can't control how you guys think or react to what I say. Your fault if you guys are precious little snowflakes. And I never stated anything I said as fact. It's an "opinion," a stupid one at that. Just like the many others here.

@EasyDaRon I don't believe I said the world revolved around me, but whatever. And I know nobody cares. I would be very surprised if anyone did care.

And if I could add, I'm finding it rather funny your triggered by this. Must have hit a nerve.

@EasyDaRon So just cause this setting was in previous games, it should be in this game? The fact that it was removed in this game shows that it was hardly used. In other words, a pointless option.

@Nincompoop yeah, some folks must have everything else in life figured out. And I can refute many of those points, having actually played online matches with the simple rule set. My tournament matches are routinely going long, and there is PLENTY of technical play going on.
Maybe some folks are just finding that they’re not dominating so quick. Git gud, son.

@N64SNESU Looks that way. Man, the Wii U is really looking better and better the longer the Switch is out. Had to hook mine up again as my Switch is just a Salmon Run machine.

Next up, Mario Golf with 6 hole courses! You know, for the quick, arcade fun!

😒

The game is missing a lot
Map selection
Retry option in adventure
Availability to replay the adventure with other characters
Giving a reward for finishing adventure
An outfit would have been great, especially to get one for each chatacter
Option to play a real tennis match
Many maps in the story mode are not playable outside of it
Minigames
The ability to turn off the default trick shot. It can easily interrupt lobs. R stick works well enough, we can turn that off, but not the default way

@Grumblevolcano ah right, are they 2 game sets though?

Cartoon plumber in not real tennis shocker......

@EasyDaRon yes, I'm a genius of statistics.
Sarcasm aside, nothing I say is fact. It's a pointless comment posted with many others. I will never understand why humans now a days get so easily butt hurt over difference of opinions. Or their knee jerk reaction to a lost option.

@KingdomHeartsFan
Well, apparantly, it IS possible to turn off items. Seems I got told in a reply here! You can dial down their frequency, or toggle them off altogether in the VS Modes.

I just think the game should have enough options for all players to be happy.

Oh, come on, it's an arcade Mario game and people are expecting real Tennis from it? That's like demanding real car physics from Need For Speed - you just don't do that!

Well it's not a tennis simulation and that's exactly why I'll never buy this game.

@Whopper744 Couldn't have summed it up better.

@KingdomHeartsFan WiiU ... pfft ... my Virtual Boy has pride of place on my forehead. I now see the world in 2D and bright red due to my excessive use of the world's greatest console.

Anyone else feel drop shots are too powerful?

I’m waiting for this anyway, but this doesn’t really seem like a deal breaking issue for me.

@Not_Soos Why did you skip Ultra Smash? Maybe Aces resembles that version and it was already omitted in the Wii U version.

What did you think of Mario Tennis Open?

@N64SNESU
i had fun with it too, but
why would you sell your switch, and leave your wii-u under your tv.
its dead and there are no new titles coming out anymore. what are you gonna play!? finish mario 3d world for the 100th time lol. sound more like a angry rant nobody cares about.
goodluck with your antique.

@gatorboi352, you must really have a low opinion of Nintendo,, if you describe every omission that is in a game they put out as fail.

What is tennis without the virtua...

@KingdomHeartsFan Switch is a fantastic system too..

@ekwcll
i never played as much on a console in its first year then on the switch.
my ps4 and xbox one even the xbox360 wich is one of the best console ever made was boring after a few months after launch.

for me its the best 1st year console ever.
and i owned alooooot of consoles, like 35 since my childhood.

the only thing i miss from the wii-u
is that you could play a game then draw and share it within that specific community.
nintendo should have continued that concept on the switch.
man i had a good laugh with people in the windwaker community, i even miss those guys.

it would be great if the next switch could handle multiple streaming in hybrid without a dock. stream the secondary screen to your tv.
i think its lightyears away before it can be done

@KingdomHeartsFan
lol. me too:)
i was there for only 4 months or so, but had great fun and discussions, miiverse was so addictive, there where days i only slept like 4 hours before going to work.

also posted alot of new ideas in the suport forum like the parental control app.

but you know, i don't like to hang on to old things, just sold the wii-u for a very good price. but the wii-u was the reason why after one decade i believed again in a nintendo product.
if it was not for the wii-u experience i would never buy a switch.

i understand why people loved it, but you have to give the switch a change, this console is not as bad as people think, it has one of the best launch up games ever, it can only become better and better. in a year there are so much games you have difficulties wich to choose.

its even better then the xbox one in 4 years, wich is a mayor bore from the start.

@NightBeast
Well, it's no exactly.
I remember that when The Need for Speed 90's, in single player modes, the single race (or quick race), you had options for choose tracks, cars and ways where you could drive those races: daytime, night time, raining/snowing, reverse rack or mirror track, 2, 4 or 8 laps, with none, low or intense traffic; in another words, the single player mode keep the game for playing it for, maybe, years; now, the new Need For Speed is only online game and its single player mode is with preset races without options for more variety of races (c'mon, nor choose car sometimes is not available)...

the same happens now, it is not bad a quick match, but have more options to not have the same "match" again and again, because it does not make sense for the single player mode, right?.

Now, also, I am not "angry" for this, XD, for me, this does not bother me I can say, but, well, I expected that at some point, with that of online as "main" game mode nowadays...

However, I see the comments, and NOW, OH, ""THE IRONY"":
many people here are complaining in the comments because they complain that people complain about this detail of the game of Mario Tennis; Seriously, here is just COMPLAIN for COMPLAINING...

I see the points but damn, people have a knack for making things overly dramatic.

@Shade_Koopa Or you can just be an adult and post your comments like you’re willing to have a civil conversation

Virtua tennis is still a thing.

@UmbreonsPapa well, where's the fun in that?

@Magrane My feelings on Mario Tennis Open are pretty much the same as Paper Mario Sticker Star. I enjoyed the game at the time, but in retrospect, I felt its new mechanics oversimplified the core gameplay, so I've never really been able to go back to it. It had some really cool minigames like the one where you rally the ball onto a screen that displays 8-bit Mario levels, and I enjoyed trying to unlock all the Mii costumes and custom rackets. There were also some really neat court designs that were maybe even better than Aces, like one themed to Super Mario Galaxy where the ground is transparent and you can see the stars below.

Ultra Smash had that same style of gameplay from Open that I didn't care for, though, and the Mega Mushroom gimmick just looked pointless. Fortunately, the game did, at least, let you turn off all those gimmicks if you wanted, as I understand it. I thought about getting the game if it ever went on a major sale, but Ultra Smash just did not have that much content to justify being a $60 game. I think most people would agree it was a very rushed job and was among those Amiibo-Festival-quality games that had everyone saying, "Just..why, Nintendo?"

Even though I do prefer the more "realistic" tennis experience, I really like all the zany Mario-themed courts to play on. If Ultra Smash had that, I probably would've gotten it. Going back to my Sticker Star comparison, I also skipped out on Paper Mario Color Splash for similar reasons; the gameplay still felt too simplified like the preceding game, and both titles just seemed less ambitious than expected from a console experience. Being handheld games, I guess I could more easily look past the faults (tennis pun! ) of their predecessors. Unlike Sticker Star, I would say I do look back on Open and still remember it fondly, though. It still had some pretty cool things going for it, and I remember how excited I was to scan those silly little QR codes to unlock different colored Yoshis and Metal Mario back in the day. Good times...

Super Tennis still the best tennis game on any Nintendo hardware.

@Fazermint I have to agree! It found the sweet spot in between too basic and overly complicated. Shame it wasn't on the Snes mini. You can recall all the JRPGs you want, Super Tennis was the biggest omission.

I love Mario Tennis but all of those new slo-mo trick shots ruined my excitement for this. I might still get it but not until it's like $30 used at Gamestop. Can you easily play an online match with classic gameplay (no slo mo zone shots or whatever)???

I don't think it would be a particularly good idea, Tennis games in general have been on the decline for ages and something like this for online would split the player base which is bad for years in the future.

Matches that are variable sets would only result in people not being matched up for their very specific preference. Not to mention a multiple set game would be rife with last second disconnects.

@Shade_Koopa Maybe because people pay 60 bucks for a Tennis game and expect the most basic features to be present? Especially since it was present in previous games!

I can fully understand that Tennis fanatics are disappointed in this.
I am not a Tennis fanatic and don't plan on buying this game, since I don't like it.
But I do respect other people's opinion and they are rightfully upset when such basic feature is missing in a 60 bucks game!

World Tour Tennis released on the same day as Mario Tennis Aces. I found both at retail last Friday. I hate long 20+ minute matches (can't take such tension), so I prefer the style in Mario Tennis Aces, but if you wanted a realistic tennis game (with all the standard tennis rules and options) and got Mario Tennis Aces instead of World Tour Tennis you picked the wrong game.

My biggest complaint is that there are no two-player co-op tournaments (online or offline). Multiplay is limited to free play mode, which also has the tiebreak scoring. This seems like a huge omission and honestly something I assumed would just be in the game when I bought it. I agree the lack of rule controls for games is also frustrating. It's just weird, it wouldn't have taken much to include these options.

From what I read the boss issues sound incredibly frustrating, did Nintendo Rush this game?

171 comments. Some good with valid points... most just toxic nonsense.

@Shade_Koopa LOL nice attitude. I for one have played tennis since I was 8, and hearing this news I will be passing on the game. So yes this kind of thing does influence how people may feel.

As I've been saying for a while now, the Mario Tennis games have done nothing but pretty much go downhill since the N64 and GBC game. This just proves my point a little more. They can't even add a basic game of tennis, the last game (Ultra) couldn't even manage a basic tournament bracket and made you use coins to unlock everything... Even when they have good ideas, they find some way of messing them up. The last Mario Tennis game I can honestly say I enjoyed was Power Tour on GBA and the GC Mario Tennis. Since then, they've gotten worse and worse.

Also what happened to the Mario Tennis RPG games? This blows.

@Not_Soos Thank you for that! My Mario Tennis Open game remains sealed and I'm hesitating opening it. Paid $15 for it but glad to hear it is a fun game regardless.

An option to get rid of instant replays would be nice as well.
I like the game but I’m pissed I paid 60 bucks for it. Hollow Knight was a far better value at 15.
Different game of course but....I digress...

Yeah, there were a lot of things in the demo I didn't like, and everything I've heard afterwards has just cemented the decision, unfortunately. Forced splitscreen in offline multiplayer is incredibly annoying, too. It's just not worth the full price as it is, seems like they focused too much on gimmicks and not enough on the core experience.

the split screen multiplayer is ruining this game for me. It's dumb & pointless. Trick shots with double tapping x is dumb too. Give me the option to turn that off.

@Shade_Koopa yeah who wants to play a tennis match in a tennis game. Crazy.

I think the lack of match customization is absolutely ridiculous considering the options everyone is asking for have been is every Mario Tennis game prior this this. I am ok with the current settings as the default, but there is absolutely no reason in a tennis game I can't play a full (3 Set, 6 Game) tennis match. And I can say with 100% accuracy that anyone who thinks people complaining about this are crybabies have absolutely no care in the world for tennis. I'm not a massive tennis fan, but its because these features have been around since the NINTENDO 64 that there is an uproar about this.

@Danrenfroe2016 I feel like Nintendo had a hard deadline for Camelot to meet and instead of requesting a delay they just pushed out the most complete version of the game that was ready once they had to manufacture the cartridges. The mechanics and gameplay are honestly perfect in my opinion and in terms of gameplay it is the most competitive and strategic Mario Tennis game ever, but that is where any and all compliments end. The lack of customization is shocking considering it is missing features that were present in the N64 Version. It has all the potential to be the "Breath of the Wild" for the Mario Tennis series, but the content is so lacking it is basically an unfinished game.