Video: Here's What Wolfenstein II Looks Like Running On Nintendo Switch

I didn't buy the PS4 because wanted to wait for the Switch so it's a day one purchase for me, cannot wait to play it!

hmm even in such a bad quality the game looks great on Switch

Hard to tell just from this, but I'm sure it's going to be comparable to how the Doom port was. It'll be the worst version for sure, but hey you can take it on the go, and if that's important to you, you can't go wrong. Panic Button did an excellent job with Doom all things considered, I expect the same quality here too.

Yep deliberately held off getting the PS4 version too. Seems I am doing this with a fair few games of late.

Maybe it's just me but there's a lot about these new Wolfenstein games in terms of the moment-to-moment gameplay that I think is actually closer to how the classic and amazing Doom plays than the new Doom game itself. I kinda wish the new Doom captured that too.

Must the main banner for the page be that hideous image? Also, the video quality is bad enough that this article doesn't really tell us anything new.

@roadrunner343 But that's an image from the game though. It shows how weird and crazy the main villains are.

I also have held off other versions to wait for portable goodness. As long as its comparable to Doom in visual quality, I'll be one happy boy. Day frickin' one purchase.

@NinjaWaddleDee I know - I'm not actually offended. But it is a pretty horrendous image for such a large banner =P Definitely seems like there would be better choices out there.

A cracking game, I already completed it on my Xbox but to get this and Doom running on the little switch is nothing short of astonishing.

@electrolite77

yeah, doesn't look bad from what we can see. it's a PC game for me though if i were to buy it (i'm not). mouse/kb required for these types of games.

I picked this up cheap for PS4 on Black Friday. Ive been waiting for this to come out on the Switch! Day one purchase, I cant wait. This looks good on the Switch. Its going to be amazing to have this game on the go.

Can't wait. I play Doom every week for a couple of hours.

I'm more concerned about the top picture than anything else...gross

Video looks barely muddier than my xbox one x. Looks like it'll be a great port and if you can translate the gameplay 100%, it doesn't matter if the textures are 10% less than consoles.
I remember that TMNT II had a huge hit in graphics compared to the arcade game, but it "played" like the arcade and in the end, that's all that really matters.
Pacman on the Atari this is not! 😆

I 'll get the game eventually, but I might wait to be fully done with doom.

Nah, I'll pass. I'm no longer buying games that aren't day and date releases. I've bought a good 18 games or so my first year on Switch & have only completed a few. There are so many games out that I no longer need to support developers that treat the Switch as an afterthought.

@roadrunner343 it is hideous. It is also original, disturbing, intriguing and adult in tone. Personally, I think it’s a good one and makes a change from the usual cliches with shooters.

Onto the game itself, I can’t wait! I’m currently starting Doom and it may be the “worst” version but to me, it’s stunning and fluid.

@Dom There's more: https://youtu.be/sP8HPJLMSag

@BradC40 I don't know how you can say they treated Switch as an afterthought. The PS4/One versions only came out in October when the Switch was 6 months old. It was confirmed as coming to Switch before it even released on those. We got Doom in November and the port was handled by the small team at Panic Button who have also ported Rocket League which released 3 weeks after Doom, work on these must have started very early in the Switch's life, perhaps even before it released. Even if they could have somehow released Wolfenstein 2 on Switch in October along with the others we would have then missed out on one or both of the other games in November. They can't work miracles.

"The switch screen is a ghosty mess anyway."

The nonsense that some people write, honestly!

Man, that looks good! I held off on buying it for the PS4 until I saw the Switch version in action. Yep, this is a day one for me! I hope that more and more developers step up and give Panic Button full reign (Dark Souls III? GTA V? Tomb Raider? Bioshock Collection?).

Super excited for this, it already looks like it's running very well. Day one purchase for me. Am loving the fact that Panic Button is making such a name for itself for its work bringing such AAA titles to the switch, I'm hoping the gap between the original releases and the switch versions will start to reduce.

@electrolite77 Looks GREAT to me.

@NintendoFan4Lyf Yeah, looks far less blurry than Doom.

@Nintendoforlife Legend - I've just added that one to the post. Great spot!

It looks fantastic. Perhaps not one I will buy but only because I am very very bad at shooters... old reflexes haha!

It's kinda amazing how a little thing the size and weight of an iPad that never (to my knowledge) overheats can play a game with this fidelity and at a playable framerate.

I'm surprised so many things are overlooked by gamers when looking at this tiny console - the Switch really is a technological masterpiece in my eyes. That being said, doubt I'll be getting this game, I already have too big of a backlog to complete on my three systems and I'll assume the pricing won't be generous.

Played on PC, HUGE fan of Wolfie franchise & ID shooters in general: didn't like it that much, easy pass for me.

It's all pretty great, if only to showcase what the system can handle. But it's still the worst version of a game that apparently isn't that amazing either. And I'm going to be that guy who repeats himself: for FPS give me a keyboard and mouse!

However I hope more devs are encouraged to develop for the Switch. And I mean specifically for it, not just multiplats that don't take full advantage of the system.

Dayum, that's a lot better than I was expecting. Can't wait. Quirky little tablet!

After getting that motion controls update on DOOM, that's basically a requirement for me now when considering shooters for the Switch. The difference is night and day.

@SmaggTheSmug Wholeheartedly agreed, I'm waiting for developers to start reaping benefits by pumping out exclusive games for this clearly successful platform, regardless if they're AA or AAA.

I'm the kind of guy who would play an Atlus/Level-5 AA game over any major AAA EA/Activision/Ubisoft game any day.

Shouldn't you credit GameXplain for their video itself?

Anywho! been holding off getting Wolfenstein II until the Switch release and it's looking good! Hoping they announce a release date soon.

I'm really excited for this. I always get games like this on my PS4 to begin with since they tend to come out much later on Switch, and then I get the Switch version as well so I can have a nice looking version to play at home and a portable version to take with me. I'm ready for some more laserkraftwerk and dual maschinenpistole action.

@SmaggTheSmug I know, opinions and all that, but I personally thought this game was one of the best FPS games I've ever played. Right up there with Doom even if the campaign is a bit short. The style is quite different from Doom, but it's still really fun and unique.

Looks about as poor as the Switch version of Doom

@electrolite77

oh i go on easy too. i don't have time anymore to slog through stuff. but still; fps for me just has to be kb/mouse. controllers are just too unwieldy imo. even playing GTAV on the PC with an xbox controller; i'd go to the mouse when shooting. i just can't deal with fighting controllers/control schemes. one of the reasons i never got into resident evil. the whole game was based around maddening slow controls.

i did get through 3 of the halo games but that's just because the aim box was about 1/4 the screen so you really couldn't miss. same with cod and the button auto aim. so easy but it's the only way to make controllers work in fps imo.

@Dom No problem.

@OorWullie Your logic sounds right for Wolfenstein 2. I'm still a little miffed that Spyro isn't coming to Switch yet and even if it does it'll be much later. That's where I decided that I had so many games to still beat plus all the upcoming ones this year, that I'd skip games that aren't day and date releases. Unfair to some, like Wolfenstein, but the Switch is over a year old now and I'm hoping to see more day & date releases soon. Hope the day comes soon where we don't get games later than everyone else.

@electrolite77 Forgot to include you in on my above response.

@CANCEROUS Me too. Held off on buying Doom again for PS4. Also wanted to wait for South Park, Yooka Laylee & now Crash. I'll do the same for Spyro.

@roadrunner343 True.

Day one purchase

FAR more impressive on Switch than on PS4/Xbox.👍

Interesting that they're showing it on the big screen. When Doom was pre-release they only showed it on the Switch screen.

Already played It on PC - Great game. Always play a game where you get the best experience - AAA FPS is on a PC in my book.

Why is she licking his head? Did she spill her lunch on him or something?

@BradC40 This game was long in development before they had access to the Switch dev kits - it might be a fair statement in some cases, but in this case, it was not treated as an afterthought at all, development for it began on Switch, as soon as they were able.

Man, love this game. It's amazing how the developers made this weird but still serious vibe.

@Ryu_Niiyama Play the game and you'll understand.

It may not look as good as the other versions but it looks damn good for something I can carry around with me.

I'm very impressed seeing this game in action on the switch and hope this game is going to live up to the promise on the Nintendo switch when it comes out this year!

Just remembered I got this for cheap on PS4. Never got around to playing it yet.

@Saego Sure. When the switch version is released.

Some more PAX footage, but now in handheld mode:

Buy it if you haven't played it yet. The game is though as hell, punishing and frustrating at medium-high difficulty... but the satisfaction is worth it. Played on XBOX ONE X, but I may consider a second purchase on SWITCH just to enjoy some good stealth action on the go.

It's reached the point that there are few games I'd rather play on PC than Switch, but an id shooter is one of them.

@Ryu_Niiyama I suppose that's the only version of that particular act that they could get past the censors...

This looks like a great port.

@ThanosReXXX I can hardly tell the difference.

@Shion_Labeouf It's a slower game than Doom and they have a full game's experience in porting Doom to Switch. Even if this isn't 920 or 1080, I expect it to be a gorgeous-as-720-can-be, 720.

@NinjaWaddleDee Exactly. WTF 😂😂😂😂😂

@BradC40 Hopefully with Wolfenstein 2 now needing completion, Bethesda will have Panic Button working on their next big release rather than a porting an older one. If so perhaps its release date won't be too far behind the other versions, if not at the same time.

@ThanosReXXX I'm sorry, Thanos but that went over my head. I'm guess this lady keeps spilling food on this dude throughout the game?

I suspect they will work on a older fallout game first. Either 4 or 3 I'd wager.

@Ryu_Niiyama Oh dear, I wouldn't mind explaining, but I'd have to be careful with my words, considering this is an all ages website.

As such, all I can say, is "imagine other heads"...

Can't go any further than that. Hope you're not offended by the suggestion, seeing as it was only meant as a joke.

I’m just looking forward to this picture not showing up on my newsfeed on the site today or tomorrow.

@ThanosReXXX Oh. gross. Yeah wasn't thinking that at all. I was thinking that it was a running joke in the game that she licks this guys face all the time (which is weird enough...men have stubble so that would be like licking a cactus in my opinion).

Damn, I thought the game looked great, but then I saw that custom Switch console they did up for Wolfenstein --> I want that even more!

Why show footage of someone who can't play ?

@Ryu_Niiyama Well, there's a handy little thing called shaving, although the resulting facial smoothness doesn't last long in general...

On a more serious note: the picture is a metaphor for predator and prey. Reptiles do sometimes lick/taste their prey before eating/killing them, and you also see similar metaphors in the Alien movies, to name an example.

The guy in the picture is B.J. Blaskowicz, the main character that you as the gamer will be playing as, and the woman/monstrosity is either a Nazi zombie or a Nazi commander that has dabbled a bit too much in black magic, resulting in that rather nifty scarred tissue.

Dark Nazi magic and/or occultism is a recurring theme in Wolfenstein. It is based upon the myths and stories about the supposed secret meetings of Nazi party members and/or SS members at the Castle of Wewelsburg. Heinrich Himmler was said to be the leader of this secret circle and he was supposedly an avid believer of and practitioner in the occult.

It is interesting reading material, and the Castle still stands today, completely intact, and you can visit it to see the gathering room and halls in the dungeons. I've never been there myself, but I've seen a Discovery documentary about it, and even the presenter of that documentary had to admit that he was kind of awe-struck by the environment and the acoustics, and he felt the dark atmosphere, so he could well imagine how even the toughest Nazi commanders being called to that room might be affected by it.

Playing through la noire at the moment and noticing a lot of slow down. Which I find disappointing.

@ThanosReXXX That's why I mentioned stubble. Men's faces are never completely smooth with shaving (either that or my dad was bad at shaving...because even after shaving he still was prickly. I hated hugging him as a kid for that reason. He can't grow a decent beard anyway...it's a waste of hair follicles imo.)

He doesn't look afraid if he is prey, but ok.

Hmm, never looked into the history behind the series (not a shooter fan so I tended to ignore the series in general) but that is pretty interesting/creepy/horrific stuff. Thanks for the lesson.

Not my type of game, but this looks surprisingly great on Switch.

Looks surprisingly good.

I played the first game on my ps4 amazing !

The port looks beautiful for the switch but I already bought the game on amazon for 25$ so I’ll enjoy it on my ps4 4K and achievements

@BradC40 Your thoughts are out of this world.

@electrolite77

i've seen people that are good with the 'jiggle sticks' but i never wrapped my head around it. seemed like more work for less payoff since i'd rather play 'high end' games on the PC anyway.

controllers are fine for 3rd person stuff. I did get outlast and skyrim on the switch but those are slow affairs so it's not a big deal to use an inferior control scheme.

In-game Switch footage here

https://youtu.be/vaOeobw833A

@sword_9mm
Should really give DOOM a try on Switch with gyro analog hybrid control scheme.

A ton of KB/M loving PC gamers are enjoying the astonishing accuracy of gyro on Switch. May not be quite as good as your mouse you're used to but, way better than analog and good enough to actually cross the threshold of being able to enjoy the game properly. Even on the go (slight tilt of the system in handheld mode to fine tune aim feels so natural).

I'm not a graphics snob so this looks amazing to me. I hear it's a great fps adventure so it's a day one purchase. Hurry it up! (also held off from PS4 version for Switch)

@JaxonH I hope this port launches with the DOOM gyro aim. I would think it would since they're both on the same engine and are probably using a lot of similar code.

@Giygas_95
I hope day one, but worst case it gets patched in

@JaxonH I just wish they'd announce a release date already. I've been eagerly awaiting this port ever since I finished Doom and started playing this game on my PS4.

Everyone buy this so that we have a better chance of getting Fallout 4!

@Ryu_Niiyama You're welcome, and it is. Perhaps you should try it, or perhaps watch some videos on YouTube of the original Wolfenstein reboot on the Xbox 360/PS3/PC.

It really boils down to it being a massively over the top fps which leans heavily on these occultism myths, making fun of the Nazis and everything is over-exaggerated.

Perhaps you also noticed (or not, come to think of our previous talk) that the main protagonist is called "B.J." Blaskowicz. Now, according to the official story, those initials are supposed to be short for Billy Joe, seeing as his full name is William Joseph Blaskowicz. But considering the decidedly over the top and cheeky nature of the game, most of us will probably be thinking of something entirely different, when seeing an abbreviation like "B.J."... (more or less similar to the thing with the head, if you don't get it straight away)

Anyways, if I would have to give a short description of what it actually is, then I would say that this is what you get when you put a first person shooter, Nazis, dark magic and Indiana Jones in a blender, seeing as there is almost always also a bit of archeology in there, in the sense that you regularly hunt Germans looking for powerful artifacts, and even try to steal some of their powers from them, or beat them to it, in order to be able to use these abilities for yourself, also adding a bit of a puzzle element to it.

Well, that was the case with the previous games anyway. Don't know if that's still going on in this sequel. I did see Nazi robots, though. Another one of those occult myths: dark magic-powered robots/knights and even UFO's, so there's plenty of real-life crazy myth material that the developers can still choose from...

I decided to buy Doom on a whim and loved it far more than I expected after I got the controls sorted. Hope to buy this upon release. Sure graphically it will be at the bottom of the pile but the ability to play on tv or handheld was a huge bonus for me.

@JaxonH

oh, i hate gyro/motion stuff even more than the jiggle sticks (hate it in BOTW) and doom on the switch may be doom but i couldn't deal with the downgrade. i have the game on PC and it's pretty fun.

the switch is the new gameboy. no need to cram stuff on it that doesn't really work all that well. N needs to get those devs that made the GB/DS/3DS so good and make more games like that. those systems never hurt for games so we'll see if N can get more 360/ps3 quality stuff out and not just cram a downgraded version of whatever. unfortunately i think those days are past. devs just don't want to mess with making new stuff. bring out 1 thing and shove it to as much as will run it. why i like the indie stuff so much. EA/Act/Cap/etc can shove it.

@Ryu_Niiyama Oh, and the reason that he doesn't look afraid is because he is an over the top macho, and he couldn't care less if a Nazi woman is trying to scare and/or dominate him. It's also part of the (admittedly cheesy) joke.

@JoeyJoeJoe there is a terrible bias here lately. I don’t understand why certain correspondents on this site seek to consistently remind us that Switch is going to be underpowered.

It’s disappointing to hear there aren’t any motion controls I’ve deliberately not bought the game on other systems so I can get it on the Switch. I’m on my third run-through of Doom with the motion controls and it’s my preferred version of the game even though it’s only running at 30fps.

Ever since I first tried motion control aiming in Ocarina on the 3DS I’ve been convinced combining analogue stick aiming for large movements with motion aiming for small adjustments is the future of aiming in FPS games.

I might have to reconsider getting Wolf 2 if it’s not going to have motion controls.

Not generally a fan of First Person Shooters, but looking forward to giving this game a crack.

@Dang69 I'll be buying it, anyhow. Looks great.

Looks and moves fine to me in tv mode. What are they talking about?

Direct feed that shows the game better. https://youtu.be/vaOeobw833A

@Cosats In a good way? Like how astronauts are the first to explore and learn about new frontiers? My ideas lead a new generation of gamers?

Looks amazing, can't wait to play this.

@Monkeyofthefunk haha now that I think about it I did buy a copy on the PS4 but never opened it I think I gave it away as birthday present. I was never much of a Spiro fan. Although the remakes do look good and if reviews are positive I'll pick it up on switch of course 😊

Impressive for sure, going to pass on a console version though. Got to play through on PC and honestly I don't think it's worth a double dip.

@ThanosReXXX

lol. i think the switch could go up to doom2 level. though the floor/ceiling textures may need a downgrade as well as the resolution.

watching the longer cut there's definitely big time framerate issues and that's docked.

so yeah; i'd like to see it in portable. the switch IS a portable so i don't care what it does when upclocked. all i care about is what it can do portable which should be in line with other systems of it's power (360/ps3).

Runs Smooth, Looks Good. Its a win win situation.!!!!

I Want It Yesterday!!!

@sword_9mm I have no idea what you've been watching, but if it's that direct feed footage that @JudgeMethos posted, then I'd say that your "big time" frame rate issues claim is complete nonsense.

And "cramming stuff on there that doesn't work so well" is also highly exaggerated. If it can run last gen games or remasters of that, then it's far more than just a handheld already, seeing as those are console titles (dòh).

And Doom Wolfenstein 2 looks perfectly fine, even though it obviously isn't as shiny and sharp as the big boy versions, but it's still quite an achievement from Panic Button regardless of that, and this is also still a work in progress, so there will probably still be a decent enough amount of time left to iron out any last wrinkles.

I've looked at this footage twice now, including the cut scene in the middle, and I personally can't see any clear (or big) drops, nor do I find any of it annoying or game-breaking, and the overall quality of the game also looks more than fine to me.

Since I never bought a Xbox One or a PS4, Switch`s graphics are actually pretty good. So this goes to a list of Must Buy games with a few others

Good news everyone ... the game WILLL INCLUDE MOTION CONTROLLS AT LAUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!

Skipped this on Xbox One because I want to play it on Switch. Can't wait to get this and kill some Nazi scum on the go!

if you watch actual footage of it it looks really great.

Looks ok, but I will not support Third party games for the Switch, Done learned my lesson with supporting Third party games for the Nintendo Wii U late ports, missing content, etc. SO my Switch is a Nintendo Only Console everything else I will get either on PS4 or Xbox One.

@electrolite77 I know, that's my point if Nintendo can't get third partys to fully support there consoles, or even care that they are late ports, missing content, etc. Then why should I reward Nintendo with purchasing these third party games for a Nintendo console? When I can just get them elsewhere with full support day one.

@MoonKnight7 Worst version? Not necessarily. It'll likely have motion controls. If it has solid HD Rumble, it should be better than the Xbone and PS4 versions despite not being as good graphically.

If this has Gyro controls like DOOM I’m definitely buying day one. If not then I’ll hold out for a future gyro update and probably get it discount as a result. I don’t care if it’s not quite as sharp or silky as the other versions because I can’t play those in bed or on the crapper. End of. What a fantastic quite unbelievable little machine the switch is.

@DOM Now with direct feed. Looks astonishingly clean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaOeobw833A&app=desktop

I hope gyro controls are day one. I can't go back to dual analogue. That method belongs with twin stick shooters these days (which I also love. Hope it didn't sound like I was demoting twin sticks lol.)

weird that they're only showing it in tv mode when they were very reluctant to show DOOM only in handheld mode

Never really played these types of games before but it looks good

@Curlybobs It does but the frame rate is awful. I hope they fix it because it is obviously affects the gameplay.

I dont understand why sone people in the comments say "bad quality" when i look at it, it looks great.
def. A buy from me.

Wow. Look amazing for me.

@manu0 it's from PAX which means the switch is gonna be unavailable to use in handheld mode.

Looks good, at least on par with DOOM with some minor framerate issues on that video. We'll have to wait and see how the game holds up in later levels but so far so good. I was waiting for the Switch version but couldn't anymore so bought it on the X and the game is good but DOOM is a lot better so of you haven't got that game yet, what are you waiting for?

@ThanosReXXX

during a lot of the fast action you can tell it's not keeping up.

the doom2 thing was a joke on your wolfenstein video.

i'm fine with devs releasing these things on the switch but they're not for me. i'm waiting on someone (ubi's the only one so far) to make a 'switch' game.

as i said; this is the new gameboy so i expect that level of support. i don't care if devs want to downsize multiplat games; that's fine for those who want them; but i'm still waiting on true exclusives. i know that's dumb since those don't really exist anymore.

@Curlybobs No offense, but that video was already posted twice before you did. Once by @JudgeMethos in comment #107, and once by me in comment #115.
EDIT:
It was even posted 3 times already: @JaxonH already mentioned it in comment #91...

@sword_9mm Ah, that Doom 2 comment was my bad. It was supposed to say Wolfenstein 2. Corrected as we speak.

And of course there's a downgrade in certain areas, most obviously in the graphics, but regardless, it still looks perfectly fine to me, and a heck of a lot sharper/cleaner than the Switch version of Doom did. None of these resolution switching shenanigans like they used there, so it would seem that they are getting better at porting this engine. And like I said before, it's still a work in progress, so they might still do something about those last few frame rate niggles that some of you seem to be so annoyed about...

Either way, I myself am just not one of those guys that constantly feels the need to put games under a microscope, it takes away from my enjoyment. As long as it doesn't provide me with any horrible lag and any other jarring events, that are TRULY game-breaking (such as the game-freezing bug in the Wii U version of Darksiders Warmastered Edition, that I recently experienced), then I'll be able to enjoy the game just fine.

Don't agree with the "new Game Boy" thing, though. The Switch is a hybrid, not a full-on handheld. It's Nintendo's All-in-One. They're not going handheld only, and they've clearly stated as much, both in words and actions.

And there's nothing dumb about waiting for true exclusives, except that it will then for the most part just be the games coming from Nintendo themselves, so for the foreseeable future, that will be the already announced titles such as Mario Tennis Aces and the handful of Wii U ports, and besides those, all we can hope to see a bit from at this year's E3 are Pikmin 4 and Metroid Prime 4.

But who knows what more they'll surprise us with at E3 2018? Only a few more months...

@ThanosReXXX

i'll still consider it the new gameboy but we can agree to disagree there. it's basically doing what folks wanted the psp then vita to do but sony never really went there (other than that failed vita box thing).

i really do hope folks buy these multiplats. N has long atrophied with 3rd parties and it's really time N buyers BUY these games. i did my part with skyrim and la noir.

For all you frame rate and resolution/graphics buffs, here's a comparison video, pitting the humble Switch against the almighty PS4 Pro. Differences are clear, sure.

But considering the HUGE power gap between the two systems, I'd say that the results so far are nothing short of pretty damn amazing. And there's still a few months to go for them to be able to tweak the game until it gets released in its final build.

I'm impressed!

Looks pretty strong to me.

@roboshort

Well I certainly didn’t mean it in a bad way — the Doom port is very good, and I expect the same quality with this game too. Trust me though, to most people on this site, it will be the worst version in their eyes. Some just can’t get over the graphical/fps hit, and that’s what I’m talking about. Trust me, some HD rumble won’t be enough to swing those people. If you don’t believe me, just take a look on the Doom review page and you’ll see a ton of Negative Nancy’s, despite it being a very good port. I bet you some will just copy and paste their replies from Doom to Wolfenstien.

can't wait!

I have the game on PS4 and it was great. The story and world building is very engaging.

The game has gyro motion aiming on Switch.

@electrolite77

yeah PC GPUs are a mess.

heck; i;m playing bayonetta now. no gpu needed.

It's been confirmed 'Wolfenstein II on #NintendoSwitch features the same great Motion Aiming found in @DOOM! #Wolf2' by the official @wolfenstein Twitter account.

@ThanosReXXX None taken.

@ThanosReXXX @ThanosReXXX switch version looks less foggy to me....and it also looks like doom a lot too....

@JaxonH I actually just watched a GameXplain video where they said the developers told them it'll have gyro aim, but as it wasn't in the demo version they played, I guess it's possible it might not be in the release build, but they may add it in before release. Here's the video if you want to see. Wolfenstein is at 1 minute in. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7-uPrMWPJI

Edit: nevermind, they're already in! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wEtCoKFgmuA

@Giygas_95
Ya they're already in. They confirmed in a tweet right before the video dropped.

That's what I was waiting for.

"Panic Button is hard at work fitting the 2017 shooter onto the plucky little portable console. And with Bethesda offering hands-on previews of the game at PAX East this week, we've finally got our first glimpse of how it runs on handheld hardware."

This sentence makes it sound like the Switch was just a handheld instead of hybrid console. There are still many people believing it's just a portable.

@JaxonH Gyro aiming is so good that it gives the other console versions a run for their money. I wish Bethesda would have Id and Machine Games implement it in the PS4 version (or even use the Dualshock 4's touchpad)

@Giygas_95
Ya if handheld + console wasn't enough as is, adding motion controls definitely seals the deal.

Games are just so much more fun with motion, where your physical reaction times can actually match your mind's.

I won't want to play any other version than this one. Bought for X1X but stopped playing when motion controls were announced for DOOM. I knew then Wolf2 would be getting them also.

@JaxonH I think it should be standard for console FPS games. Stick for turning + gyro for fine tuning is almost as good as a mouse. I'm pretty sure the Dualshock 4 has a gyroscope, but I'm not sure about the Xbox One or One X controller.

@Giygas_95
No motion in the Xbox One controller.

Would be nice if one day it became the standard but, I believe PS4 and X1 gamers are far too resistant to change. They'll push back against it, especially knowing Nintendo Switch does it, because it dilutes their perception of "how a game should be played".

If X1 had motion I could maybe see it being implemented at a multiplatform level but, since it doesn't that's yet one more obstacle in the way.

At least we're seeing it standardized within the Switch fanbase. More and more games are using motion, and using it properly. Zelda, Mario Kart 8, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Resident Evil Revelations, RE Revelations 2, Skyrim, DOOM, LA Noire, with Okami HD, Mario Tennis Aces, Crazy Justice (the upcoming Fortnite/PUBG-like battle royale game) and Wolfenstein 2 on the way.

@JaxonH Well, it'd certainly be nice to have the option on my PS4 copies of Doom and Wolfenstein, but at the very least the larger analogue sticks when compared to the Switch's make aiming easier. I don't think I could ever go back to no motion aiming in a Switch shooter though.

@Giygas_95
Think the pro controller has same sized analogs, if you're comparing TV play to TV play.

I like the Joycon myself though. They have shorter travel but, after 5 years with the PS Vita sticks, they actually feel tall. The Vita sticks were far too tiny. I'd even say the 3DS analog had more travel, though it moved across a diametral plane as opposed to the semi-spherical travel of the Vita sticks, which allowed significant travel without protruding upward.

But ya, I really don't wanna go back to non-motion either, tbh. One of the reasons I stopped playing Payday 2 was... no gyro. Granted, DOOM was still playable before the update, and you learn to leverage strafing for fine tuning aim just like in the Vita FPS, but motion not only elevates it to the status quo, it propels it well beyond.

@JaxonH I want to get a Pro controller for when Smash comes out, but they sure are expensive. I don't mind paying about $60 for a new game, but for a controller that's pushing it a bit...for Doom though I'd probably just play my PS4 copy when I'm at home because my favorite weapons like the Super Shotgun and Gauss Cannon with Siege Mode don't require much precision at all. The motion aiming for this game will be great though because I love using the laserkraftwerk, but it's so hard to hit with even up close in the PS4 version (ironically it's harder to hit with aiming down the sight than it is to hit with it normally, but it's still hard).

Also, it'd be great if they ported The Old Blood and The New Order to Switch. And add a chapter select to Wolfenstein 2...I'm not sure why that feature was omitted, but I'm forced to make a bunch of different save points just so I can replay missions.

@Giygas_95
I think keeping a Pro Controller around is worth it. It's the price of a game but, it's only once and then you're covered all generation long (5, 6 even 7 years).

I'd love to see the original Wolf on Switch. It's gonna be a trilogy I think, and Switch will surely get the next game... so why not round out the trilogy with a New Order/Old Blood port. Perhaps that's coming down the line. I imagine Fallout 4 is their next Switch game. After that though, Idk. Maybe they'll do New Order as a stop gap between Wolf2 and Wolf3, or maybe they'll focus on past titles like Fallout New Vegas and Dishonored, or maybe Dishonored 2 and just do the current gen releases. Or... maybe after Fallout 4 they'll just focus on new, upcoming titles and leave the backlog in the past.

Either way, I'm just grateful that no matter what happens, we'll always have 2 of the best FPS ever made on a handheld... on Switch... with motion. Activision would be ignorant fools to not being Black Ops 4 to Switch this year, complete with motion.

Idk what the deal is with EA, Activision, WB and even Ubisoft. They bring games like Mass Effect, Batman Arkham, Call of Duty and Assassins Creed to the worst selling Nintendo console ever, but have yet to do much of anything for the best selling year 1 console of all time... their priorities are backwards as it gets, especially when companies like NIS are now reporting Switch versions of games are outselling their PS4 counterparts 2:1 both digitally and physically.

@JaxonH It's extremely unlikely, but I would love Metal Gear Solid Legacy Collection, MGSV Definitive, and Metal Gear Rising on Switch. MGSV runs on PS3 and 360 so I imagine it's possible on Switch. The problem is Konami.

@Giygas_95
Right.

Seems the big companies ran by business suits are the ones convinced Nintendo isn't a viable avenue for revenue. But the companies where the suits actually came from a background of game development (Pete Hines at Bethesda, to an extent Yves Guillemot at Ubisoft, etc) they recognize the systems potential because they themselves as gamers and developers see the appeal.

Konami has a decent relationship with Nintendo though. They brought Bomberman R at launch when very few 3rd parties were willing to step up. Rockin 1 million sold should garner their attention.

@sword_9mm I think we probably should agree to disagree, but I will leave you with the reason why I don't accept the "Switch is a handheld" thing:

To me, it's so agonizingly obvious, since no previous handheld has EVER featured full-blown triple A titles, such as we are seeing on the Switch now. And that's an important difference with systems such as the PS Vita or any other handheld, that has only ever had spin-off titles of these bigger triple A titles.

And even if there were any 1:1 conversions, it was either from last gen games, or REALLY old games, as in Virtual Console type.

So, that really is a thing to consider, instead of rushing to designate the Switch as a handheld, simply based upon the facts that it isn't as powerful as the competition and that you can take it with you on the go. I can also take my laptop with me, but that still doesn't make it a handheld; it's still a full-blown Personal Computer...

But having said that, I do agree that we better call it quits where this topic is concerned. I did want to give you my full point of view, though, so there you go...

@Curlybobs Much appreciated.

@KIRO Yeah, it's different from the previous two Wolfenstein games, which were a bit more "Indiana Jones meets WW2 shooter", while this one has the whole space/sci-fi theme going on.

But indeed, it looks quite a bit sharper than Doom. Panic Button really seems to be getting into its own with these Bethesda ports.

Simply incredible! If game developers can squeeze this amount of power out of the Switch now, imagine what they can do when they really get to know the hardware. WOW!

The game looks 'fine' on PC, even at max settings. Looks fine on Switch as well. 30fps hurts, but what can you do. It can't do 60fps with a shooter, yet.

Wolfenstein 2 is a pretty poor game IMO, but this will please the shooter hungry Switch crowd.