Yesterday, it was revealed that Sega is bringing its own "classic edition" system to market in the form of the Mega Drive Mini.
A micro-console pre-loaded with classic titles, the system was shown off during an event in Japan, instantly triggering speculation that AtGames - a US firm which has been making officially-licensed Sega consoles for the past decade - might be involved. Shortly before the reveal, Sega had spoken publicly about bringing AtGames hardware to Japan.
Following the announcement, AtGames tweeted this message:
This tweet has since been deleted, which would suggest that AtGames jumped the gun somewhat. Perhaps Sega wasn't happy that AtGames stole some of the company's thunder by pointing out that it, and not Sega, is responsible for the product, or maybe the overwhelming negative reaction to the tweet is the reason; AtGames' systems don't have the best reputation among gamers, and are plagued by poor quality emulation and bad audio.
At the start of the year, following our scathing verdict on one of its Sega products, an AtGames representative got in touch to tell us that its 2018 Sega system would feature improved technology and features; we assumed at the time it would simply be a revised Mega Drive clone, like the ones the company has been releasing on a regular basis for years.
Perhaps the Mega Drive Mini will indeed be a step up from previous licensed models, but the fact that AtGames is involved again this time around doesn't do much to inspire confidence; we wish Sega would take Nintendo's lead and create the software for this system internally, as Nintendo did with both the NES Classic and SNES Classic.
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... almost as shady as the sound emulation on previous At Games clones...
That tweet was deleted by the sound of thousands of wallets suddenly snapping shut.
Meh. My main focus now is on the M2 enhanced ports. With the option of expanding past 15 titles, bringing Saturn and Dreamcast games over and more arcade titles...I LOVE MY SWEEEETCH!!!
My... excitement has now dwindled somewhat.
I'm hearing on YouTube a lot of people don't like this company. They were excited to hear about the MD mini until they heard who was behind it.
AtGames has a very shoddy track record, but I’m willing to see how this turns out. That’s probably more than they deserve given every other flashback console, but If Sega has a bigger hand in this then those other ones, I think this could work.
Terrible decision...
I’ll need glowing reviews now
I'll just continue to play Megadrive games on my Snes mini then. There is no way I'm buying anything form this embarrassment of a company. Sega really need to sort things like this out, especially if there is any future of doing similar products for the Saturn or Dreamcast.
AtGames really needs to shut their traps, now Sega had to find another way to convince people that this thing won't sucks.
Why is ATgames STILL making genesis minis considering their recent efforts is below par?
Sega does what nintendoes - BUT WORSE
@PhilKenSebben This announcement was for the Japanese marketplace. I doubt many Japanese fans know about AtGames or read western gaming sites. AtGames holds the rights here in North America for this product line.
AtGames took a big step forward last year, leaving their old hardware behind and moving to much more powerful HD capable hardware (Although legacy SD products still were sold with all the old issues, and will be for one last year in 2018, before AtGames reportably is 100% HD and using their next-gen hardware exclusively).
The in-house emulators powering the Sega Flashback Gold and the Atari Flashback 8 Gold still were imperfect though (Although with vastly improved audio on the Sega side compared to the old days), so AtGames is licensing high quality open source Genesis and 2600 emulators for 2018's HD console lineup.
While skepticism isn't unwarranted, it all sounds good, so I vote for waiting and seeing how it goes. I can vouch that the Atari Flashback 8 Gold was a big step forward compared to the previous AtGames models. And if 2018's Flashback 9 Gold moves away from running the AtGames emulator from last year and instead uses Stella like it sounds like it will, the last few complaints will disappear.
Mega Drive Mini is just a Flashback console in a new shape. In other words... garbage.
I tried the handheld and console and was not impressed. Hope this emulation is way way way better
If they are involved I'm extremely skeptical. Honestly I'll just play the SEGA collection coming out on PS4 instead.
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It’s a shame SEGA didn’t try to make their own classic console without the help of highly mediocre companies like AtGames.
I don't trust AtGames to do a good job with this, so I won't buy it. At least the Switch stuff is getting handled by M2, they're more reliable with Sega games than Sega is themselves...
Can't see me buying this now, what a disappointment
Well this is disappointing though not at all surprising.
Sega announce Mega drive mini. Euphoria reached. ATGAMES announce they are making it. Smash back down through the floor. Biggest comedown ever
Yikes
I was really disappointed with the current ATGFlashback generation. It is a shame that you have a better gaming experience if you put a Raspberry Pi Zero inside an USB hub which looks like a Sega Genesis.
But I have to admit, this will be a quick way for Sega to deliver at least something in Asia. Really dislike how Sega treats her IP with bad emulators or Free to Play mobile Apps, too.
Not interested.
Did Sega think this was actually a good Idea? Everyone hates AtGames
If they don’t throw in the crappy tic tac toe [removed] then I’m not interested.
@ottospooky If you're referring to the generic games that AtGames tossed into each Sega product alongside original Genesis games, I'm afraid for your sake to report that they're gone for 2018.
Wow! Just when I thought Sega had maybe turned a corner. That crap At Games business just wont go away! Sega Forever emulation was also junk de junk. Where is that promise of quality they talked about? You’re a bunch of stupid heads, Sega! Lol
Might as well just tweeted "it is going to suck and it will be made terribly and have a bunch of terrible filler games."
@NinChocolate Well lets be fair, there is a good reason why they went out of the hardware business a long time ago. As soon as the Dreamcast died so did their ability to produce great hardware.
The Megadrive Flashback HD, is a lot better than all the ATGames consoles before it, sound and picture is improved plus it has MS,GG,MD and plays carts, i use it for brick hard games as you can save anywhere from controller, it lets people play the games at a fraction of the cost, games like Psycho Fox,Phantasy Star series, Shining Force series, Golden Axe series loads more for £80 and plays carts, winner in my book.
If Sega make this console I will buy but if it's ATGames I won't, the Megadrive collection for PS4 will be enough for me and Sega Ages for Switch and will be loads cheaper....
"This same new and improved technology..."
Freudian, so Freudian.
Good luck selling this to fans...
@LemonSlice Nope, AtGames introduced their next-gen platform in 2017. In 2018, it will be running a well respected open source Genesis emulator, as will the Atari equivalent.
Nothing from the old days is still going to be incorporated here.
@jayblue Do U own it ? I doubt, AtGames sucks !!!
I'm pretty sure the reason they deleted the tweet wasn't that it announced their involvement out of turn, rather that the responses were almost uniformly--and harshly--negative. It's a marketer's nightmare. In retrospect, considering the poor quality of most of their systems, what did they expect?
They have an uphill climb to respectability. It would have been better that they remained quiet until, and if, the MD Mini was favorably (or favourably to you folks at N-Life) received.
What a bunch of pantywaists. Couldn't take the heat.
@Atariboy
Who're you, AtGame's personal PR sycophant? You've been defending them ad infinitum. Cut the crap.
Yes i own it i have all consoles boy-o, i am jaybirdy1 on all consoles, plus i have a multi mega.
Wait, isn't AtGames the same people who Nintendo is having work on Virtual Console for the Nintendo Switch?
@patbacknitro18 Not even close, they're not working with Nintendo, M2 is.
@mikegamer I was hoping my joke wouldn't fly over others heads lol.
If sega is more involved in this then it still has potential. It should mean the console comes with a decent line up and hopefully none of those random shovelware titles that make up about half of those games
@Atariboy ‘I’m disappointed’ said no-one ever.
@Atariboy Quit defending AtGames because even though their Android powered Genesis box had better Sega Genesis sound emulation it suffered from god awful framerates from games played through it.
AtGames makes pretty good Atari Flashback systems but their Genesis emulations.... nooo thanks.
Sega's announcement of the MD Mini (Yay!) and the subsequent negative reaction to AtGames' involvement (No!) will have the scalpers so confused. Speaking of which, I wonder what the stock situation will be like when this thing lands.
Also... surely they should have started with a Master System Mini? That's my biggest disappointment about this announcement.
The problem of those retro consoles is not that they are big or small, it is that they require cables and hdmi ports. Why should I waste a hdmi port for something like this when retrogames are released on new consoles?
"we wish Sega would take Nintendo's lead and create the software for this system internally, as Nintendo did with both the NES Classic and SNES Classic."
Well, yes. SEGA could maybe make the software for this Mega Drive Mini, but do the they have the knowhow to do it?
And does SEGA still have the necessary knowhow to build a new console internally? Even if we are just talking about rebuilding an old console in mini format, you still need a small hardware division.
My guess is that SEGA 2018 doesn't have any clue about building and selling hardware anymore. They are just a game-software company today. All those hardware employees are long gone.
And making a small new mini OS for some new hardware, is not that easy either. Even if someone else made the hardware, you would still need to hire a lot of new people and OS experts for that task. Not something for your Game developing division, or Sonic Team. That's for sure!
So expecting SEGA to make a new console by them selves these days, is pretty naive! They can't do it anymore.
they should let nintendo handle the mega drive mini...they just need to design a new case for the board that's in the (s)nes mini
@manu0
Yeah. That would have been EPIC
SEGA and Nintendo teaming up for that!
@Atariboy I absolutely agree. Definitely a wait and see. I'm not going to blindly snub it. Just cracking a joke. But a lot of wallets did just close hearing that. Hopefully not blindly, just waiting rather than day one. I hope the upgrades you describe happen and I appreciate the info. I would love for this to be a quality and successful product.
Was excited for this. But seeing that AtGames is involved, I think I'll pass.
Serious missed opportunity to call it the SEGA Mini Drive
@Captain_Toad Because Atgames and Sega have sold 35 million units total of these Genesis consoles and handhelds since the line started years ago.
The sound emulation might be off, but they remain the cheapest way to play old Genesis games. The collections on the PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PS4 require you to own one of those systems, and buying a real Genesis and even a couple of the games that come included will cost you some money.
The reason why these things sell is that the average consumer likely sees them on the shelf at the local Dollar General or Walgreens, goes "Hey, this thing has Sonic and Mortal Kombat! I remember those games!" and buys it either for themselves or a loved one.
They likely don't even notice the sound being off, It's been years since they played Genesis after all. All that matters is that they are playing games from their childhood again.
Its the same reason why the Atari Models sell year after year as well. Atgames and Sega really have no reason to improve anything because there is no viable threat to them right now.
Yeah, the NES and SNES Minis sold well, but because Nintendo can't figure out what supply and demand is when it comes to those little systems, Nintendo can't really make a dent into a market Atgames has cornered.
If Nintendo would step up their game, solve their supply issues, and put NES and SNES Minis in the same stores that Atgames targets, you might see some things change.
But for right now, Nintendo really can't do a damn thing to take over this market. They don't have enough systems, and the NES and SNES minis are more secondary projects for them than anything else.
@manu0 Oh yes, let's have Nintendo handle this. Surely, they would have figured out the concept of supply and demand at some point.
Because they did such a great job of ensuring the NES and SNES mini were in the hands of all the gamers who wanted one, and did everything they could to make their customers happy.
The hardware on Nintendo's offerings might be vastly superior, but let's be honest here. Nintendo botched both the NES and SNES mini when it comes to distribution. Far too few units made it out to the hands of gamers, and a lot of people(myself included) were never able to get their hands on either model because Nintendo, a company who has produced home console hardware since 1985 suddenly forgot what supply and demand was.
Atgames' products might be crap, but they know how to ensure their Atari and Sega Genesis products end up in the hands of consumers at a decent price. I've seen their systems at Dollar Generals and Walgreens, and even QVC ran programs promoting both Atgames' Sega and Atari lines.
On top of which, most of the other plug and play retro systems have had some asine crap that holds them back from being successful. Remember the Neo Geo X? It was priced at $199 which put it outside the range most people are willing to spend on these kinds of consoles, and while Nintendo got the hardware and pricing right on their offerings, they never produced enough systems, causing many of the NES and SNES minis to end up in the hands-on people who resold them on eBay for tens or hundreds of times the original price.
I'm suprised they went with a mega drive mini seeing how they basically release it every year, the only difference being the size now. I have a portable genesis by atgames so I mean technically they have made mini genesis's before in handheld form.
If true, this is not good just based on past examples. I honestly think this should be made in-house by Sega with a team like M2 making sure all the games that are bundled are handled with the utmost respect. But if AtGames can actually redeem itself and create something that's at the same level of quality as Nintendo's Mini systems . . .
Spyro’d again
F*ck.
At least I have a real Genesis.
Oh, SEGA.... 🙄
Well, better keep stick on Nintendo hardwares.
@patbacknitro18 It didn't even sound like a joke. Just sounds like a regular facebook/twitter response. Need to put a more obvious punchline if you want to cash in on the lolz.
@Deku-Scrub I think mediocre is giving them too mich credit
Though, Nintendo is reintroducing the NES Classic/Mini this summer again. That's what they promised at least.
HA HA HA HA HA what an absolute joke....!
This product was surfing 🏄 on the success of the SNES mini, and now we know the it's going be developed by ATgames...looooool. If I was Sega I'd pull the plug now (pun intended).
All we need is for Nintendo to announce the N64 Mini and everyone forgets about the Mega Drive/Genesis Mini.
I now know what not to buy. Thanks Sega for making my decision easy!
@smithpa01 You're right.
Utter trash is a better name, I've used some of their products in the past that my friends have owned and they feel so cheap.
@patbacknitro18 I wish M2 worked on this as well, they actually programmed a very good Genesis emulator on Wii.
@carlos82 Yep same here.
"The rumors are true! Sega is going to release the Mega Drive Mini in Japan, powered by the latest AtGames..."
-NOPE!!!
From what Bill from AtariAge is saying the 2018 line up is going to be even more enhanced.
I think AtGames is showing a little more care into their products this year.
This was probably the lesser of two evils for Sega to be honest. Their other option would've been have nintendo themselves make it, but then there wouldn't be enough supply to meet demand, and they would've gone with short cords and a dumb proprietary controller port.
@wazlon I hate to say this, but unless Nintendo cuts a major deal with Microsoft to get Rare's games on there, I don't really see how a Nintendo 64 is really going to be all that special.
Yeah, you'll have stuff like Mario 64, the two Zelda games, Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart 64, but let's be honest here. Many of the N64's most memoriable games were not made by Nintendo, but by Rare.
A Nintendo 64 mini would not be all that special without the Banjo games, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Diddy Kong Racing, Killer Instinct Gold, Perfect Dark, etc.
Personally, while wish Nintendo would just skip the Nintendo 64 and make a Gamecube mini.
Now, a Gamecube mini would be awesome. Imagine having Super Smash Bros Melee, Mario Kart Double Dash, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Pikmin 1 and 2, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, the Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil 0, the Prince of Persia Sands of Time Trilogy, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, and many more games all on one system.
But I'll admit, I'm biased. I always thought the Nintendo 64 was an overrated system with a bunch of games that have aged much faster than their Saturn and Playstation counterparts, while I think the Gamecube is the Nintendo's second-best home console after the SNES.
In other words, I'm a massive Gamecube fanboy.
Last year's atgames Sega hd still has terrible audio and about 8 stages in to gain ground the game started stuttering really badly. I'm going to keep playing megadrive via my snes mini as it has the power and modding community behind it.
I owned a Genesis growing up instead of a SNES. I should be the target audience for this but I have zero confidence in AtGames. They generally make inferior products you think came straight from some sketchy Chinese factory. The link to AtGames coupled with the SEGA Genesis Classics collection coming to PS4/Xbox1 next month and the decision to pass on this is an easy one. What a shame, SEGA....could have been a nice little cash cow for you.
@Caryslan I am completely on board with this comment to a degree. Your thesis statement about the need for Rare games is one I can support. Nintendo's first party games would not be enough for an N64. However, Nintendo has shown a willingness to acquire 3rd licensing for their "Classics" line of games. Plenty of 3rd party games appeared on the NES and SNES classic systems. I'm hopeful that Nintendo has a trick or two up their sleeve!
@carlos82 so u have a worthless snes mini and a thief to boot
@Caryslan that's because a few people would buy them all.I seen a full grown whin like a baby at wal mart because they would only sell him one I bought the other as his wife was trying to get it.I really pissed him off lol
If ATGames makes it, then I say it'll make a cute collectible on the shelf, next to you NES and SNES Minis, but it should sit there rather then be hooked up to your TV.
Welp, that’s it. SEGA fails again. I’ll be shocked if this thing scores higher than a polished turd.
Sega just being too lazy.
Well there goes my expectations.
Seems like SEGA was hoping to hide this from consumers. Really scummy.
I’ll be sticking with my laptop and Xbox controller for emulation, looks like.
Sega needs to stop. This will be the 3rd time they’ve released a Genisis/Mega Drive mini console. It’s coming off a little desperate now. Just focus on making great games (which I’m not sure they can do regularly now either).
@KaiserGX Not my fault some people can't put 2 and 2 together. You know the fact that Nintendo has no announced Switch Virtual Console. The fact that everyone's hating on AtGames emulation skills. If that was too complicated of a joke then my bad lol
@Syntaxkita not a fan personally. And I didn’t say they don’t make any good games, I said they don’t seem to do so on a regular basis
@Atariboy Most open source emulators can't be licensed to use in a for profit product. One of the people behind RetroArch did an interview explaining this on Lon.tv's YouTube channel. Muah guess is they would just steal them and use them illegaly like Retron and others have done.
@JayJ so did there ability to create excellent games. They are a good pair for each other. A mediocre hardware maker and a now mediocre videogame company who only lives today because they use to make great games.
@Tim_Vreeland Just as well, I don't blame them, we don't need them screwing up already good emulators as it is.
@PhilKenSebben Your comment is awesome; and yes Sega isn't thinking right if they give the mini to AtGames. Nobody wants that!!
But AtGames sucks as emulation...
(moves Megadrive mini from 'must buy' to 'will wait for reviews')
Correct me if I am wrong, but Nintendo made their "mini" consoles in house. NINTENDO made them. Sega is getting some schmuck 3rd party company to do it? No wonder there was a negative reaction.
@Tim_Vreeland Tim, the GPL license that some of these utilize like Stella fully allows for it. You just must share any of your modifications by releasing them, in order to be in compliance with the licensing terms.
@mikegamer Nope, just someone that actually touched one of their next-gen products last year and enjoyed what I saw, after past experience with earlier iterations.
The Atari Flashback 8 Gold Edition on the next-gen AtGames hardware was a major leap forward in quality compared to the Flashback 3-7, which were the previous AtGames models which never changed much from year to year (much like the Sega line that has so poisoned their reputation). Granted, I didn't actually play the Sega equivalent on their next-gen hardware last Fall, but it was clear from videos that it was a big step forward, albeit still with room to be improved.
With them retaining 2017's HD capable hardware platform and also changing in 2018 to high quality open source emulators like Stella for the Atari Flashback 9 instead of their own in-house emulators (I don't know precisely which emulator is going into the Sega stuff just yet), I think there's legitimate room for optimism.
Pretty much ever since the second wave of Sega/Atari products with AtGames branding hit and essentially was unchanged, AtGames continues that course with nothing ever improved significantly. This went on for years, yet 2017 finally did see a big leap forward with the launch of the Sega Genesis Flashback HD and the Atari Flashback 8 Gold Edition. And with a complete software change-out away from AtGames programmed guts in store for 2018 to quality efforts programmed by the enthusiast community, I see a company that has finally woken up and realized that improvements need to happen if they're going to stick around.
@GamingDude800 Frame skip is a major reason why they're leaving their in-house emulator behind, and using an open source emulator that is well respected within the classic gaming community.
Not sure why that should be taken negatively. Aren't we all hard on them because year in and year out, the same junk kept appearing on store shelves for a good decade or so? Well that finally changed last year with brand new hardware, brand new emulators, Bluetooth controllers instead of awful IR, high-definition video, etc. We finally saw a leap forward out of this company.
Granted, I think AtGames realized afterwards that emulation programming isn't their strong suit, but that's why their 2018 plans hold so much promise. They're leaving emulation programming behind, and instead are licensing quality open source emulators that the community themselves has developed and evolved for years.
Emulators that many of us are happily using on our own, via our PC's and other devices.
@Heavyarms55 Alas, Sega's not much more than a holding company these days.
@Heavyarms55
What else could SEGA really do? You really think SEGA has any production facility or any employees left who know how to produce and distribute game hardware? 17 years after they discontinued their last console, and made the transformation to a Game-Software company?
Ok, most hardware get produced in China these days, from an external company. But SEGA would need the hardware engineers and OS developers to make a prototype in-house. Staff that they don't have anymore in 2018.
Although, SEGA should perhaps have chosen a better hardware partner than AtGames for the task...
So so so disappointing, like Sega couldnt produce these themselves.
@dres Your last point sums up what they should have done, lacking their own in-house people and barring the idea of hiring a few, they could have gone to a very reputable 3rd party hardware manufacturer. Or even potentially Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony and made some kind of deal with them.
Haha I’m so not getting this!
@Heavyarms55 Margins are slim.
You have Sega taking a share of the pie, which basically guarantees that the company paying to license this content in what isn't an easy business line to succeed in, is going to be cutting corners and so on just to make the numbers work.
It would've been great to see someone take these properties and give Nintendo a real run for their money, but if there were any takers there, someone would've outbid AtGames.
But we're talking about a pie that after costs have been accounted for, doesn't have much left to it. And what's left has to be shared with Sega...
HA HA HA! There goes all the hype! Killed with just a single tweet!
@Slim1999 why is it worthless? Do you understand how it works? It's just software that can be removed and restored to exactly the way it was, making it worth exactly the same as every other Snes mini out there which is about £70 If you're lucky. As for a thief, if buying all of these games, sometimes multiple times across systems and still having them on my shelf where possible and then choosing to play them on a system I bought just by downloading roms in the same manner as Nintendo did to create the thing makes me a thief, then I think you need to look up the definition.
With no revealed line-up other than what's already in Sega Ages, I'm not sure what the point of this mini console is....other than to officially show how bad AtGames is with emulation.
Skipping it, because people say it's bad emulation. Bad move too, Sega.
Now I'm going for the Sega Mega Drive Classics on Xbox One (it should be on Switch too, this is a mistake, just like Shenmue I&II not coming to the hybrid console), and wait for the Sega Ages to reveal itself 100%, including if it's going to be a physical compilation or we'll have to buy it digitally instead.
Maybe I'd prefer, for once, the chance to buy each game separately in order to choose the ones I don't already own. Because if it's physical it will pale in comparison to Sega Mega Drive Classics (53 games), and no achievements either.
You know what's odd? in 2005 when I got one of the first plug in and play Mega Drive systems, it played and sounded just like the real system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kutCG7luhlE only intill even looks like a Mega Drive mini only downside it only had 6 games, used to take it round my nans when I stayed there, the Atgames consoles that came along seem sure had more games but always fail to do perfect emulation.
@Moroboshi876 People haven't had a chance to try out the emulation to judge it one way or another. The 2018 products are not yet out, and do not use any past emulator that AtGames has utilized.
@Atariboy But they launched the Mega Drive Flashback less than a year ago, it was supposed to be better than previous products, yet it received bad critics for its design, emulation and pretty much everything.
Do you mean that they're going to release a new product (being that MD Mini) this year and it finally will be the good one? I'm not confident about that.
Anyway this time I won't preorder like I did with Nintendo minis, so I can just wait until I see the reviews. I'm not saying "no", I'm saying I'll wait. No rush. Even SNES Mini can be found in stores today, piles of it actually, and with some reduced prices.
@Moroboshi876 The Sega Genesis Flashback HD wasn't universally panned.
Somebody screwed up and pre-final software was installed in reviewer units, and reviewers obviously received it poorly just as they should've. AtGames screwed up badly with the first showing of their HD product line that was supposed to represent a turnaround towards higher quality products. But production units were received much better, and reviews generally reflected this that posted revised reviews of finalized hardware.
The two big complaints that people that actually bought these where the experience on the tv was concerned, were an unintuitive menu system and some minor frame skip at times. We already know that the latter hopefully will be fixed, with a brand new emulator that the classic gaming community regularly enjoys to play Genesis software already planned to be taking the place of the AtGames emulator this year.
And hopefully criticism is listened to with an overhauled menu.
Watch this for what appears to be a tough but fair opinion from someone with past experience with AtGames Sega Genesis products, that actually played last year's Sega HD product (Something that myself as well as almost all of the critical opinions you'll see, didn't do; I've openly admitted to only having bought and played the HD Atari Flashback 8 Gold for 2017 AtGames products).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIz9nMnneGY
It's clearly far from perfection, but obvious step forwards have been taken compared to prior units. A new emulator for 2018, improved external cases that hopefully give off a high end feel like Nintendo's do (Changes are coming with the shell designs, which hopefully addresses this area), and hopefully taking criticism to heart with the menu system have the potential to resolve most outstanding issues. I don't know that the menu will be overhauled, but it would be foolish to not do so since nobody liked it.
Don't buy one blindly. I'm not advocating for that given their reputation that has been justly earned. But a big step forward was taken with their HD platform when it launched last year, despite what you'll read from people that never touched a Sega Genesis Flashback or the Atari counterpart that I did buy. And the right things appear to be planned to improve it for 2018.
Worth paying attention to, I feel.
Owned 3 AtGames consoles/handhelds in the past.
TERRIBLE sound emulation AND speaker quality.
Awful image processing (speed, colours).
Game-ruining controller input problems.
Huge mistake for Sega to have made. Their retro games deserve better. Their fans deserve better.
@Caryslan I see your point, there's not much chance of the Rare games on an N64 Mini and without the Rare games it wouldn't be so special, especially considering other games have already been released on virtual console for Wii and Wii U.
A Gamecube Mini would be awesome and the list of games you've mentioned is great. I'd add Super Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion. It would be great to add some of the less known (and not so good) games like Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Wario World, Kirby Air Ride, Billy Hatcher and Super Monkey Ball - the list could go on. Guess I'm a bit of a Gamecube fanboy myself, it has my favourite controller too.
@Deleted84 If you want serious play buy a Multi Mega like i did, this console is not aimed at collectors, i like my HD Flashback that's why i play it, no one is asking you to buy it, just give up games and go outside and play with a football, leave the games to us gamers.
@Atariboy I'm not gonna hold my breath
I was excited for the system, until Atgames was confirmed to be making it. I'll gladly keep my money.
@Atariboy Pretty sure the Genesis Flashback HD was an improvement compared to previous models. And maybe AtGames has enough backing from Sega to create something wonderful.
I would love to have Sega some kind of success, but they need to push AtGames to its limits and provide support.
At least last year's HD Sega flashback wasn't as bad as their previous AV ones they've been selling at places like Walgreens since 2010. It still had some compatibility, frame skip, freezing, and glitch problems, but the sound emulation at least didn't make you want to stick rusted forks in your ears because it was so off key and painful to listen too.
If Sega is more involved and they actually take a page or two from Nintendo on the NES and SNES classic, maybe AtGames will put out even a halfway decent product this year. But I'm always going to have very tempered expectations when it comes to their products until they prove otherwise.
And this is why Sega is no longer is the console business, just a horrible decision. Theres a reason why you find dollar general and walgreens littered with atgames products.
Oh my God, Sega, you IDIOTS just go and collaborate with Analogue and make the Genesis equivalent to the Super NT.
I doubt this comment ever gets read, but I can now confirm thanks to the FCC website that Genesis Plus GX has been licensed and will be the software emulator powering the 2018 Sega Genesis Flashback HD (And the Japanese Mega Drive Mini).
https://fccid.io/2AMTQ3680SEGA18/User-Manual/User-manual-3952641.iframe
Also note the included SD slot. An AtGames representative at AtariAge has already confirmed that it can be used to enable to SD rom loading, although a downloadable firmware update might be necessary to enable that functionality.
Also to correct a comment I made months ago, a few of the generic bonus games will again be included this year. Earlier plans were for them to be completely eliminated in favor of a lineup composed solely of classic Genesis (And SMS/GG) games.
But somebody at AtGames seems to really love those bonus games, so 14 are again appearing here.
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