Secret Of Mana Sequel Seiken Densetsu 3 Shown Running On Nintendo Switch

Oh, this is big! VC should be at the door =D

Fingers crossed for a worldwide release. Secret if Mana is one of my all time favourite games. That, along with this sequel, would make me think that this VC may be the best yet.

Come on Nintendo. Throw us a bone. Give us some info. This along with Mother 3 and some other RPG's would keep me alright for the time being.

So the Neo Geo games aren't technically Virtual Console? Kind of like the 3D Classics on the 3DS?

Lol I just downloaded Adventures of Mana on Friday for my psvita,haven't played it yet because I also downloaded The Warriors aswell and that's taking my time up. Love the Mana series though.. Edit I don't think this has anything to do with VC,it will probably just be a remaster or minimal face lift just like Adventures of Mana,then released onto e-shop,that's what Square seem to be doing at the moment. VC would be great but I wouldn't hold your breath just yet,it's good to hope though

Great !
VC on Switch confirmed.
Hopefully some Gamecube VC appears on Switch.
Nintendo, please reveal Super Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario 1000 years door, Harvest Moon Magical Melody , etc on Switch as VC.

Japanese Nintendo Account, here I come! Mother 3 next, please!

You must be joking. I adored Secret of Mana and never played this. Is it too much to hope for localization?

@Switch81tch how very true. My biggest holdup is waiting to see what incentive there will be for carrying over the Wii U library...I have a few of them. :/

Whether they bring it to the west or not, I already got a repro version of the game. I just hope that if they do localised it that they also patch it as well so we could play 3-players co-op with it.

Secret of Mana is my favourite game of all time. I've got an english patched repro copy of SD3, so good. I really hope this gets translated and released, like Mother 1. I've been campaigning for this for years! Squeenix better bring all their greats to the Switch like SoM, CT, this, SoE, FF games, etc

And don't forget, they promised online multiplayer for games! Which would work for SoM and if they patch it into SD3. Modders and rippers did it 20 years ago so squeenix better not say they can't....

Where is the port I put my money into the Switch?

Havent played secret of mana yet - hopefully that one will come, too.

Seariously?! Did nobody see the borders on the side of the screen? I am sorry to depress you all but I don't think snes borders will be a thing in VC so I believe that this is an official port by SE rather than virtual console.

I consider secret of mana to be in the top 5 games ever made, yet I have never played the sequel. Give it to me now.

@Menchi187
I'm checking now, it may have a credit card slot.

surely they could publish this for New 3DS too...?

Just started playing the English Fan Translation of this game on my Super Famicom and SD2SNES. And recently finished playing Mother 3 English translation on my GBA via a repro cart. Sorry Square and Nintendo, but unless you release official English translation versions of these games, that's just how I'll have to play them.

I'd definitely buy this and Mother 3 on VC to show my 'support' if they ever did translate them to English.

@r1chard They need to release it on everything. I'll buy it on Switch, I'll buy it on new 3DS and just because I'm a rabid fanboy of SoM and SD3, I'll even buy it on WiiU if they release it on that!

Virtual Console incoming is a matter of time. A bigger question here is indeed whether SD3 could get localised this time and whether this could spark a trend of more text-heavy old titles following suit (like the Romancing Saga games or Mystic Ark - I played the latter fantranslated and it's a pretty great game with a variety of locations and a solid battle system).

I like what Neo Geo are doing with the ACA collection. Nintendo should give publishers the chance to put their classic games on the Switch without the need for Virtual Console. I think you would see a lot of collections getting released if they didn't have to go through the VC. Keep the VC for Nintendo titles and that would also help free up time for making the Gamecube titles compatible.

Yes!!

@GravyThief Rom translations, fans do what Nintedon't™

@nhSnork Bahamut Lagoon is also highly overlooked!

wow! would love to play this, I don't think it means Virtual Console is about to hit though. I think this would just be a stand-alone release like the NEO Geo Titles. Nintendo has said nothing about the VC service so this makes me think this is not part of that. Would love this to be in English but I have a feeling this will be Japanese only.....hope Im wrong!

Got this on my Super Famicom.
Even if it doesn't get a release over here, I'll gladly pick it up off the Japanese eshop just to be able to play it anywhere.

If it has never been localized, then don't get your hopes up.

If it releases on Switch VC, it will be Japan only.

Not fair why do those kids get to play it first! I have wanted this for years, YEARS!

English Please
And this would be a system seller for me

right now I'm enjoying BotW on the Wii U until Splatoon 2 comes out. But this would make me bump my purchase up to whenever this is released in NA.

@Jeronan Earthbound Beginnings, anyone?

I played the translated rom with a friend in co-op many years back. If I get the chance, I will pay for the game. Although I did prefer Seiken Densetsu 2.

Whatever may be the case:
-Cut the cr*p
-Localize it (or license the fan translation)
-Finally release it in the west

Do the smart thing for once Square...dont be a Capcom

Well, just tweeted Nintendo Japan suggesting Seiken Densetsu 3 would make a great European Virtual Console release. A couple of hundred more tweets might help grease the wheels.

Things are getting interesting here!
Play like it was the 80's or 90's! This time for real! Insta 2 players co-op!!!
Maybe this is why Nintendo is being late at implementing the Virtual Console: it wants to get the massage right with a clever marketing, like it has been doing these initial weeks and Switch pre-release. Because what we have here is a true throwback! And the companies maybe smart enough to capitalize on it!
So, better the V.C. be a worthy platform on Switch.

It took the Switch for this monster of a game to run, Lord knows Wii U couldn't have played it. Secret of Mana is an awesome game, one of my all-time favourites. Still, has probably the best opening song of any game at the title screen.

Bought it at launch over 20 years ago. There was no internet or Youtube videos to recommend games. I got really lucky, I liked the cover and what the back of the box said. Little did I know what a gem I was buying. Sadly, I've lost the box, manual and the big map that came with it. I don't where all these things disappeared to as I didn't throw them out. Still have the game though.

Oh my god, I just realized how easy it would be to play Secret of Mana 2 player with the Switch. My body has quite possibly never been as ready as it is feeling right at this moment

Played it about 10 times translated with emulation. This is tge best Action Adventure JRPG ever made. If this gets ported it is an instant buy even at a $30 price point. It is eyond a shame we never got this in the U.S. and even more so that it never got proper new iterations.

Loved this and will buy it if there is a translation. I throughly enjoyed the fan translation, but without one i might get bored or lost

i've noticed two things: the game has a frame. that means either nintendo is doing something new with VC or it's not VC
judging by the color of the joy-con they seem to be playing on a retail unit not a dev unit. does that mean that the release is imminent?

.... but will they localize it at long last?

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
So, do you want to buy Switch for that lovely games ?
Just go on. Try yourself and proof yourself that Switch is as same Great as Wii U.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE you prompted a nice memory for me there (sort of topic). Going into the game shop, wh smith, in England and just gazing at the boxes and making a decision on a purchase based on the cool art and if it sounded good this was fine with a mastetronic 1.99 game but when a title started to get past 7 quid and in the case of Ultimate, a whole tenner (!) this was a decision you couldn't take lightly. No reviews or internet, maybe a friend recommendation. Ah , the days I bought some lemons this way (I'm looking at you beautiful but impossible Jack and the Beanstalk) but also some nice surprises too (bounder, tll etc)

@Switch81tch there was a fan made streets of rage game. Compiled all 3 games, characters and music (remixed with hd pixel enhancements and music) into an awesome package.

I hate to say it, I doubt Sega would even do it as well as those fans did - it was incredible. Cant recall the name of it now..

@manu0 Good spot, though i assume the dev kit can use retail joycons just as well as the black dev-kit joy-cons.

@DanteSolablood need to retweet Square Enix - its their title, not Nintendo's. Only Square Enix can translate and authorise the release.

@OdnetninAges correct. To be honest though this is a good thing for consumers at the moment, as the versions that are out come with numerous bells and whistles that have thus far been absent from VC releases.

@Dipso true, but why would they do that? btw: normally devs don't even have retail units because they can't put their games on there (which is why you sometimes see errors on retail units that never showed up during testing)

@OzHuski Also a valid target, though if Nintendo mentions there is interest it would certainly help. Square Enix has a habit of ignoring their fans... wonder if they'd also ignore the company they're developing the game for. Point taken though!

@DanteSolablood too true! Sadly I think Square would ignore Nintendo as much as us- but anything is worth a shot. Always wanted mana 2 myself!

I haven't played through it yet with the English patch, but DS3/SoM2 had tons of bugs and imbalances. For example, critical hits never worked. (Although the game was so easy with the exception of the Black Rabite, it didn't really need them...) It was even possible to nearly insta-kill the final boss of one of the three routes, because it was Undead and was not immune to classic undead-killers like healing. (Kind of like the Dark King in FF/SaGa: Mystic Quest...)

So yeah, unless they have a copy of the source code still lying around, and are specifically working on the bugs to fix them for another public release, this likely isn't going to happen. That said, a modder from the site Insane Difficulty has, in fact, already created a patch which fixes all of the game's bugs. It's called Sin of Mana. It even comes with lots of much needed rebalances, and five levels of difficulty, one of them being true to the name of that site! I definitely recommend it for anyone who's interested in DS3/SoM2.

@GravyThief Doesn't Mother 3 have a built in detector right before the final room, where the game freezes when it detects that you're not playing an officially licensed ROM on a physical cart? (Which is an amazing troll, I must say!)

@DiscoGentleman Yeah, from SE themselves, a remake is more likely than fixing the bugs of an over 20 year old game. However, thanks to the modder who made the Sin of Mana mod, those bugs have all been fixed, and the battle system significantly smoothed out... Along with variable difficulty, since the base game is apparently way too easy when bugs like "critical hits have virtually 0% chance of activating" are fixed.

@snil4 Nintendo is adding online to the NES and SNES games.so why can't it have borders?

This would be awesome on the Switch! Use one of the fan translations and3rd player co-op patches available and this'll be a hit. Make it happen Square Enix!

@PlywoodStick good question. It was actually my wife who played and finished it (she always steals the Mother games from me). I've just checked on YouTube and showed the final boss fight and ending to her. Apparently she did fight the final boss fight and saw the cut scene that plays, but she says it ended with a black screen and it saying 'the end'. According to YouTube there is a credits sequence afterwards which shows all the characters and credits. My wife says this didn't play. Not sure if that's to do with this protection or if she just didn't wait long enough! Sounds like she got into the final room anyway.

@GravyThief The credits sequence may have been removed for the reproduction cart. If she got into the final room with the Needle of Light, she got past the lockout. The ending of the game is indeed supposed to be ominous and ambiguous. (And maybe a little unsatisfying, although that bittersweet feeling ties in with the rest of the plot...)

It would be a dream come true.
Secret Of Mana (1 and 2) portable with proper controls (Android version kinda sucks) and local multiplayer... Call me in instantly.

@Menchi187 I haven't played it yet but it sure is on my radar as well.

Well they are meant to be adding online multiplayer the NES/SNES games, so if they're putting effort into that, translations have to be on the cards too, right?

Omg omg omg

Seiken Densetsu 3 for Switch?? Mind blown.

Spot on @SLIGEACH_EIRE about the opening, SOM is one of my all time faves, was proper gutted SD3 never came to the UK. Sooo hope this gets an official localisation for the Switch.

@Switch81tch
passes out. falls and hits head. wakes up in hospital super pumped for SD3

I have this cart for SNES and tried to play with the google translate app... it's just to idiomatic. Can't make heads or tales of "today is the day I peel off my face".

Wouldn't it be a dream if Nintendo (or whoever) would allow for people who BUY the game to apply FREE translation patches? I'll buy this on VC and they can let fans do the work of localizing. They get the $$, I get the game! Want to play, but want to do it the right way!

The great thing about this is, even if it just sees a Japan release it can easily be downloaded in other regions. Just a shame it wouldn't be translated. I've played Secret of Mana, big fan of it. Bigger fan of Sword of Mana however (as it was the first Mana I played) but it gets a bad rep for being a remake of FF Adventure so there you go.

OH MY WORD. Maybe wrong place for this but......

I just realized.... Switch is Nintendo's answer to cross-buy.

Want the game for Wii U and 3DS? What you REALLY want is the game on console and mobile. BOOM. Nintendo Switch. They only have to make the game once, market it once, etc. but you have it both ways. Cross-buy is the future? Nintendo says it's the past.

This needs to be happen to the US, SD3 is actually the game Secret of Mana should've been.

I've successfully wandered my way through many JRPGs in japanese without knowing a single kanji, let alone a word. And even if you get stuck someplace, it's rather likely you'll find an english walkthrough and the existence of an english translastion of SD3 should help, too.

What?? Stop! For real? Oh man if SD3 comes to Switch this is huge... I love the franchise.

@mikegamer Pretty much. Since SoM was originally being made for the SNES CD system, many of the things had to be pulled out of the game after the CD project died. Luckily most of them made it into FF games, SD3 and CT.

@vitalemrecords
That's a different case. Earthbound Beginnings (Zero) had been localized already, back in the late 80s. A complete prototype build was made, and that's what they used for the VC release.

Who knows if there was ever any localization docs or otherwise for SK3? The only real translation we've got is the fan rom hack, and given Square's stance in the past on rom hacks, it's unlikely we'll see that one used.

Sweet. Looks good too.

this is actually a huge deal.

Want.

Man... I seriously had to calm down when I read the title of this article. SE has only shown me so far that they like to dig into their backlog for Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games, but they have yet to show me that they like to dig even deeper, especially to games not released in the West. It's encouraging, but it's still a longshot at this point seeing this game in the west, but it at least shows that SE remembers it in "some" way. Fingers crossed for this one and a one specific Enix title of Terranigma being localized for the west.

PS: On an unrelated but similar note, still hoping for a Mother 3 announcement for the west

Already playing the english translation on my Super Famicom. I'd just be interested in an official Nintendo translation dump.

Lol, it is so easy to get giddy with the thought of Square releasing their back catalogue and localising older games. Must....resist. However, the Switch is just the perfect console for crowbarring play time on rpgs

@MeloMan Wouldn't count on Terranigma, Enix published it, but Quintet (long since defunct) made it.

This is great news. If they do localize it, I would highly recommend picking it up if you enjoyed Secret of Mana. This game had awesome music, a bunch more characters to choose from, and quite a bit of playtime from what I remember. (I played a translated emulated version way back.) The combat is very similar to the original, from what I remember, but there were some changes/tweaks for sure.

Well hope this is true and that it will be released outside of japan as if enjoyed the few games i owned of the mana series

I've not heard of this series until a few days ago when Smooth McGroove did a Secret of Mana song. I might check it out if it gets released.

I hope they release the English version!

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I got the manual and map, after getting Secret of Mana used from Amazon years ago. (No box, though ) Amazing how certain items are so hard to find... Folks just throw things out over time, not knowing their future value...

And what are you talking about? I've played a patched DS3/SoM2 on the Wii, which has a bigger file size due to the Sin of Mana mod/patch.

@crimsontadpoles Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. Where have you been!? This is like... one of the quintessential action RPG's of the time period! A little outdated now, but balance/difficulty patches can make it better!

As a SNES player as huge fan of squaresoft back then I truly feel....they owe us this.

I wish Nintendo would re-release the NES and Super NES and many of their classics again in original physical cartridge format with box and manual under retro gamers choice slogan.

I downright hated Secret of Mana... but I actually like this game. Even without patches it's much more balanced and has better story/characters/writing/replay-ability.

Played the first one on the wii vc with my brother and we had agreat time.

Then we played the sequel and it was even better. A proper english version would be nice, but probably won't happen :L (Or just wait for homebrew emulators to become a thing on the switch and were set :>)

Seems Square just announced the Secret of Mana Collection for Switch! Omg...this better come West!.

If they localise that collection it might actually be the game that I buy a switch for

Could we finally see the definitive portable version of Secret of Mana? (because the iOS port was pretty wonky).

They support multiplayer! Switch is so perfect for this.

Too bad the collection will probably not be translated. I hope there is already an English version in the game for importers.

Anyone even remotely interested in this needs the best Secret Of Mana 2 (Seiken Densetsu 3) review ever written. Not to mention the awesome cover art...

http://www.hyperplayrpg.com/store/p11/NON-UK_BUYERS%3A_HyperPlay_RPG_fanzine_%28Issue_2%29_.html

(As featured on Nintendo Life)

@Alexface yep, thinking the same thing.

@Damo It's actually a game collection for the Switch with Seiken Densetsu 1, 2, and 3 on it. There's also multiplayer support for 2 and 3. Physical and digital versions are available.

http://gematsu.com/2017/03/seiken-densetsu-collection-announced-switch

Also, official site: http://www.jp.square-enix.com/seiken_collection/index.html

@Ernest_The_Crab Thanks for the info!

@manu0 Maybe they have the connection issue on the dev-kit joy-cons

Or they might have bought a separate pair for a number of random reasons

Or it could be close to launch and they are able to download it on a retail unit via a hidden e-shop code? :S (just wildly speculating at this point)

Looks interesting

Came from the future to say I just finished playing Trials of Mana. Yeah, that's how they called it in the western release. Awesome game!