Rumour: Nintendo NX Source and Details Gain Some Traction

All sounds good if true tho.

I refuse to believe anything until they announce it.

@Fidu Same here.

100% have been fake so far, so i don't believe any rumour.

Backup data to Nintendo Server is a big plus for me. When my place was burgled back in the Wii days, apart from the usual emotional experience dealing with that - losing my save files from games that I put hours and hours into annoyed me as much. Now I manually do a weekly backup to external HDD.

Not exactly pushing the boat out though, are they?

Well I suppose it's a start.

Another day, Another NX rumour. I'll wait till Nintendo says something.

Good if true. Don't Care if fake

Monster hunter NX launch title.
Resident Evil NX launch title
Mario Launch title
Splatoon NX launch title
METROID Prime NX launch title
Call of Duty NX launch title
Donkey Kong NX launch title
New IP NX launch title

@Fidu I'm in the same boat.

Got to say I'd be pretty disappointed if it didn't do these things... to me this rumour's kind of like saying "Well I heard from a reliable source they're going to put the Nintendo logo on it somewhere." If it is true that's good though.

i don't like that 'ports of current gen games' bit. that might mean repurchasing current-gen games in ported form instead of full compatibility. wii compatibility on the wii u should really have been done better, and i'd hate it if the nx was similar in it's handling of wii u games.

Here we go again...

I heard that this thing is made by Nintendo and it plays games.

I trust my source.

Expect the NX to be renamed Nintendo VB-U

Begins the Rumours!! XD
again...
and again...

To be fair, anyone could have guessed this kind of basic information and like what some have said above, without these features we'd be looking at another Wii U type fiasco

As far as ports go, I dont mind as long as theyre ports of really good games. The likelyhood of it being Ubisofts dumping ground by way of the last few assasins creed games is high but Dark Souls and Final Fantasy would be pretty cool

I'm starting to think it will not launch this year. 1/3 of the year is already gone and they havent even showed Pictures of the console? Either that or they couldn't afford the hype train hehehe

This is very boring for a rumour. At least say the thing is going to be square (width/depth wise), yellow and have an embossed white question mark on the top or something.

@NES_64 my thoughts were that the nx couldn't be an all new design given how little time there was from launch of the wii u, that it's a much more powerful wii u. but if the above is true then it's no longer a power architecture chip. then we have those old horror stories of how the wii u dev kits were still not in final form a month before launch.

It's amazing that in this age of leaks,data-miners and unknown sources,Nintendo can keep something as big as a new console as secret as they have so far.With E3 just 2 months away,it's inevitable someone's is going to spill the beans and ruin the surprise before the main event.Nintendo should really get round to announcing what it's going to be before that happens as it can only have a negative effect.Just look how many knickers were twisted over that dodgy controller a few weeks back.There's probably still some out there believing that was real and telling their friends about it.

I'm pretty sure most of this stuff was guessed at by a majority of the NLife family. Still I hope Nintendo puts out an awesome machine that brings 3rd party back into the fold so the games I can't get on my Wii U now, I will be able to play next go round.

It would be great if it were fully backwards compatible with Wii U games, following the footsteps of (most of) its predecessors...

I'm hoping the rumors are true that the NX will have versions of FFXV and the FF7 remake.

Honestly, 3 points (backup, interaction with smart device apps, My Nintendo integration) can be done already with Wii U, the second screen is sensible if we think about backward compatibility with Wii U, being a 2016/2017 home console it's pretty obvious that even low end hardware should be on par with at least Xbox One, so the news is x86 architecture, that was less obvious as Nintendo could have used ARM instead like they do with 3DS consoles (and AMD is able to design ARM chips too from scratch, like K12).

The Gamecube had a lot of current gen ports. Hopefully it will have certain exclusives-like how they did with NBA Street and having Mario characters as unlockables.

No amount of rumors will sway me, no matter what they are. I have serious trust issues at the moment... ;(

Set to be the greenest console of them all, will run on solar energy.
It will be a Wii U and Wii duct taped inside a Atari Jaguar shell. dubbed NX.

@DarthNocturnal @Jamotello
You can remove the "probably"... No need to be extra nice with folks who comment without reading the article nor thinking for a few seconds...

If Final Fantasy 15 on NX is a thing then Nintendo need to hurry up and announce something so I can fix my pre-order.

Hopefully it will happen and, with a bit of luck, have a better frame rate than the PS4 version. If not, I'm staying put.

I am becoming more and more sceptical if I want to continue with consoles at all - its all getting less and less to my liking

So x86 architecture means that Wii U backwards compatibility is impossible, right? Can any tech expert out there clear that up?

I still think it could launch this year. Maybe x86 means they don't need a physical devkit?

And if x86 and launching this year I'm assuming Nintendo will be using AMD Puma for the CPU.

@BigBabyPeach Not impossible but not likely. If anything it'll be Xbox One style.

@DarthNocturnal hopefully!

If NX is only good enough to handle PS4 and Xbox One games, and nothing remotely more powerful we're back to square one. If PS4.5 is real, which it sounds like it is, it needs to match that in power, but I would argue it doesn't need to output at 4K.

x86 architecture yes please. Nintendo doing the right thing.

Couldn't give a damn about Wii U backwards compatibility. NX doesn't need it.

@Fidu Exactly

@ElGrego probably!

The x86 may make sense but that will probably mean no backwards compatibility.

Hardly groundbreaking stuff there, pretty sure I could have come up with that much too. I imagine the additional screen will come in the form of whatever handheld they run with next, much like the gba link on gamecube

Wait, backup data? As in, save data?
Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuusic to my ears.

@InternetBowser well NX sounds pretty good (and simple too, which doesn't hurt), though I don't think it's going to be the final product name. As soon as it was cited along the DeNA partnership, people went crazy trying to figure out what it could be and how it could be named, the most frequent guess being Nintendo Cross. Then, a couple of weeks ago, I was struck by a sudden idea so simple I'm still surprised I hadn't thought or seen it on the internet: Nintendo NeXt! I don't think it sounds superdupercool, but it conveys well the idea of a new Nintendo as a whole.

If Nintendo releases in 2016 a console that is as powerful as Xbox One or PS4, then it's going to be Wii U all over again. Microsoft and Sony are already planning Xbox Next and PS4K. Nintendo is repeating itself.

@VanillaLake They were already planning their next console before/just after they released the current ones. R&D takes a long time.

Here we go Again.... Sounds nice, but I'll take it with a pinch of salt until we have an official announcement.

@Allspice No, I mean that they are already talking about them with everybody and have been leaked somehow.

I just want to hear that the controller has physical buttons.
Other than that I'm not too worried

I don't think they mean PS4/XB1 games with current-gen titles, rather the current Wii U titles like Splatoon etc.

Other than that, I read this rumour while standing in a salt mine.

@Andrzej777

I'm inclined to agree, I find the off screen gaming on the wii u the only gaming I do. I don't touch the PS4 purely because I prefer gaming on the handheld.

Considering PS4.5 is on the way, The NX better be a beefy machine that surpasses both the PS4.5 & the current Xbone. Microsoft has already hinted a hardware upgrade could be on the way as well.

@foobarbaz Sony releasing Playstation 4.5, would piss a LOT of people off. Only 3 years ago, customers slapped down up to 500 U.K. pounds for a Playstation 4.

Also, if the main attraction of the PS4.5 is the 4k compatible, then I personally don't think it will sell too well, certainly not at the moment. There simply are not enough CORE GAMERS out there, who have access to a 4k TV.

Also, by calling it PS4.5, and NOT PS5, that smacks of the console certainly not being that much more powerful than the PS4. I know quite a few PS4 owners, and they are already peed off with Sony, if the rumour is to be believed.

@3MonthBeef Wait a moment, are we talking about the technical prowess of the console or backwards compatibility?

Reading "Can handle ports of current-gen games" means for me that it's backward compatible to Wii U games.
The console being strong enough to play XB1/PS4 titles is a given for me, after all those two would be last-gen when the NX releases.

Cpt. Obvious' leak...

But seriously: when is Nintendo going to announce info? If it is released this year (which the earlier article somewhat insinuates), can they really afford to wait until E3 to announce it?

Madness...

I could care less when it launches, BUT I'd LOVE to see a Direct, an E3 presentation, SOMETHING from Nintendo giving us the basics about the system, so we can put to bed all these rumors and well-wishes, ASAP. Especially the "console/handheld" hybrid assumption, and if that is true, how would it work?

How about backwards compatibility with WiiU titles (and carrying over digital purchases?)

@CTMike e-3 is the where the answer will be still gives a few months to amend or to buy 2 times lol

@bofis if the system is built completely different architecture i wouldn't count on it. it might emulate the digital games though.

You can kiss your backwards compatibility good bye. The Wii & WiiU are based on a custom PowerPC architecture. If they switch to x86 they can't do hardware based backwards compatibility. They would need to do a software backwards compatibility solution and I don't think they will. They couldn't do something as simple as software emulation for GameCube memory cards on the Wii. I doubt they'll put the resources into NX BC. They didn't even bother releasing GameCube games on the WiiU either.

The WiiU is capable of playing GameCube games. It can't read the mini discs, or support GameCube memory cards and controllers natively. That needs software emulation. If you hack your WiiU and run the homebrew app Nintendont you can play GameCube ISOs from an SD Card or USB Hard Drive with your WiiU Pro controller and save your games to a virtual memory card on the SD Card. The hacking community proved that its possible. But Nintendo won't do anything that isn't on the cheap for them.

"There's logic to these claims (some of which reinforce industry reports, such as the X86 architecture), particularly the idea of support for an additional screen, My Nintendo integration and the ability to run current-gen (PS4 / Xbox One) games."

This sentence is very confusing. Are you suggesting that the NX will actually run PS4 / Xbox One games? Because that's how the sentence reads.

I'm guessing you mean Wii U as that is also current-gen, regardless of whether it has as much processing muscle as Sony and Microsoft's consoles.

A fair few people seem to be concerned about the NX not being backwards compatability.

If having no hardware backwards compatability means Nintendo can change architecture then I think that can only be a good thing. Besides there is always the possibility of Xbox One software style support for Wii U games if they wish to do so.

@3MonthBeef I don't know, I think if they would lose backwards compatibility it would actually hurt them alot.
PS4 and XB1 did start without backwards compatibility at first but as soon as both companies saw the negative consequences they added bc to their consoles.
So XB1 and PS4 do in fact have bc.

@shani funny how everyone's like i want this now, if you want to play them games stop being cheap and buy the damn wii u for them... just saying an all.

These are sensible, normal, boring predictions. There's nothing wacky here, so I'm very doubtful that they're from someone in the know.

The only one here I care about is the My Nintendo points support. I really hope it works like Miitomo, where there are missions in every game to do to unlock Platinum points. It would be the perfect Nintendo Way to implement a trophy system of sorts on the system.

People keep saying "needs to be more powerful than PS4.5 or it's dead," without thinking about the cost that might entail. Nobody wants a $600 Nintendo console. Nintendo always tries to keep costs down. Expect something that is roughly as powerful as PS4/XB1 but has some unique features. It's that latter thing that will be interesting. Do they go with some high concept hardware like they have done since the DS, or do they start looking to focus on the software side, unifying the software platform across multiple devices and exploring interoperability between home and mobile devices? Or do they try to do both simultaneously?

On the subject of the name and design, I wish they would incorporate more retro elements. There's no doubt that a lot of Nintendo love is driven by nostalgia, so I think it would be great to call it something like "Ultra Nintendo Entertainment System" (UNES), and call any handheld element an "Ultra Boy."

The design of the systems could incorporate some elements of older systems, like the gray and purple aesthetic of the SNES, or the gray/black/red aesthetic of the NES, or the gray/purplish aesthetic of the Game Boy. We don't need more things with kooky marketing-focused names and shiny space plastic.

The system itself doesn't need to be retro-focused, but just make the design/marketing a clear call back to what most of today's buyers view as the golden era of video games. I maintain that one of the problems with the Wii U is that it doesn't have a lot of "curb appeal." Without the controller It's a pretty boring rounded rectangle that isn't even as statuesque as the Wii was. It is without a doubt the most boring-looking Nintendo system ever made. When I have people at my house, it just doesn't jump out as "this is a neat thing that you should be interested in." Every other Nintendo system has done this better.

Isn't this all stuff that should be entirely expected?

x86 could be great news and I'm hoping for it to be true going forward. Not sure how Nintendo fans are going to greet a lack of backwards compatibility, though. We've been pretty spoiled that way if we really want it.

The second screen thing is promising to me. I know there is controversy over the GamePad, but I think it's parts of the execution that are frustrating. The additional gaming features are real and desired by me.

@earthboundlink No chance they're going to genderize the name of the next handheld. They'd get killed for a move like that.

"x86 architecture"

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I prefer the over-the-top rumors. This info sounds too ordinary and expected. I want to hear rumors, like, about rare making a sequel to jet force Gemini exclusively for the NX. Something along those lines.

@aaronsullivan yeah, playing Splatoon 2 wouldn't be the same without a second screen. Same goes for Pikmin 4. I think the gamepad is great and hope the NX is compatible with it.

@Judgedean You get a heart just for using the word Burgled.
NO ONE uses that anymore, so that made me laugh.XD

Hey, I'm taking everything I hear with a pinch of salt these days. Suffice to say, my biggest worry is that "NX" will be some sort of codename and that the final product will be named, like, the "Super Wii" or something. They need to let the Wii branding die or it isn't going to matter how powerful the console is or isn't.

The ability to interact with smartphone apps might be interesting, but beyond that, this is all pretty safe and expected.

@dew12333 Lies!

Please Nintendo, I beg of you, add party chat IN GAME! If you want to avoid toxic players in chat, then make it friends list only, simple as that! I would've logged a ridiculous amount of more time on Wii U with this feature.

Here is the problem I have with this rumor. This same person just yesterday leaked rumors and one of them said it was not x86 architecture, but most likely ARM. So, today he's now saying it "is" x86 architecture. Kind of blows credibility out of the water for me right there.

Seems odd to be excited about ports of xbox and ps4 games, not like they'll port a backlog of them. There aren't many people who already own Xbox or ps4 that need a new Nintendo to play games they already own..... Scares me that the nx is still going to be too late to this gens party, it needs to be more powerful than current gen or they are looking at another console in 4 more years, that will really burn out Nintendo fans. The Wii u curse could haunt them for the better part of a decade if they don't get the nx right, possible ports of current gen isn't nearly enough.

@PleaseUnderstan hahahahaha

All of that stuff is exactly in line with what I am personally expecting from Nintendo's next console! For once a rumor that isn't outlandish to the point of impossibility!

If these Rumors are true. I think Nintendo is preping to do 4 things. 1) Show how the NX is new and different so as not look like a knock off of the other two. 2) While showing how it's different, Also showing how they will still get all the relevant 3rd games and support. Not just dumbed down versions like the Wii and Wii U. 3) Show what advantages NX has over the competitors. More then just the great 1st lineup. Wii U proved this is not enough. 4) That the flow of great content and games will be more steady then the Wii U.

@Solid_Stannis It's already been confirmed that they're dropping the Wii branding.

http://nintendoeverything.com/kimishima-nx-not-the-next-version-of-wii-or-wii-u-something-unique-and-different/

@Vineleaf Didn't think of that. I guess my idea is a little too old school. Ultra NES still works though!

I have lost all hope that it will have a decent name. Nintendo NX would be fine. Nintendo Revolution would be fine. Super Nintendo was fine. Ultra Nintendo would be fine. They absolutely MUST drop the Wii name though. It's been a massive joke for almost a decade now. Yeah, the Wii sold a lot but let's be honest. It was a flash in the pan gimmick. Just don't call it something like the Joy Box or Dream Machine.

@BigBarakuda 2 & 4) Nintendo doesn't have that much control over these things, sadly. 3rd parties are surprisingly unpredictable at times, to not say unreliable.
1 & 3) I wish the NX would blow my mind with something that I hadn't even imagined could happen. Sadly, I seem to be part of a minority. Wherever I look, more and more people are just asking for the next Nintendo console to be a more powerful PS4, with uninspired Wavebird-like controllers and the next Call of Duty. It doesn't make sense to me, but it seems to be the current fad.

I want more 3rd part support, but I don't want 3 clone consoles on the market, that would be a disaster.

@melin108 If voice chat is that important to you, why don't you use a 3rd party tool? Like Skype, TS, Mumble...

There are many free options, you can throw in other functionalities like video chat, file transfer, etc...

And obviously, it's multi platform. You'll be with your friends no matter what you're playing on (PC, consoles, microwave...).

Oh god would an online backup be fantastic. Now if only they went as far as to let me transfer save data and/or game purchases between consoles.
Also, if phones are a thing, we could get things like game apps that can transfer currency or items into console games, which would be sweet.

This is getting ridiculous.

Maybe we will hear some truth about the NX from Nintendo at E3 ths year...

@Jamotello
By that, I believe they meant ports of third party games on other consoles will be possible. You were thinking of backwards compatibility. Going with x86 architecture (what the competitors and PC use), and having capable hardware would enable ports.

@3MonthBeef But I disagree. I think Nintendo is for Nintendo games first and foremost and always has been, otherwise all they need to do is sell software and launch their games on other systems and exit the hardware market. The home console market does not need another ps4 or xbox, if you want those games you can go play them right now.

@Kroko Im hopeful that Nintendo knows the value of their brand and it wont just be a third console the same as the other two, filling the same niche as the other two. In my mind thats the rgeatest risk to nintendo, producing a a direct competitor to two already established systems, think about it, why the heck would they do that!? That would make no sense. All they ened to do is have similar enough hardware so that the absolute blockbuster must have games lile the upcoming final fantasy 15 can be played on the nintendo, let ps4 and xbox fight over the rest and smash out heaps and heaps of quality nintendo games and some fun new nintendo IP's, and please let this NX play blu rays and dvds!

I bought a wii u because I wanted nintendo games, thats is why I didntt buy a ps4 or xbone, but they let me down by releasing next to nothing for 2 years! My wii u sat in my shed for almost 2 years until wind waker hd was released!

Home unit:

ARM based (6 threads available for developers)
Dual shader engines
Discless (uses same media as handheld)
Flash memory & allows external USB3.0 drives
Affordable (<$250?)
2017

Handheld:

ARM based (3 threads available for developers)
Single 540p screen
Same button layout as home controller
Affordable (<$150?)
2016

All titles will be playable on the home-console (some may require a linked-handheld), games can also be home-unit only but may feature additional handheld content (e.g. mini-games, Streetpass features).

Extra assets for home console play can either be stored on the game card or optionally downloaded - at minimum the console will 4x upscale games to 1080p, or render natively at 1080p if the developer wishes (publishers can charge for high-res asset downloads if they wish).

Handheld system can be used as a controller on the home-unit and for off-TV play of console-only games (switch between on-TV and off-TV with a single button). When in on-TV can display extra information relating to the game (as can Android/iOS devices).

Save-games cloud sync at every opportunity to allow seamless play on the go and at home.

The handheld is linked to a single master home-unit, but can connect to any console allowing temporary sharing of the master game library and usage of save and profile data (i.e. you can level-up a game character, then when visiting a friend use your handheld as a controller on their home system using your character data).

@cfgk24 no cod.games sick the way it is

Cod Suck

Would they really move to X86 architecture to get back the third party developers? Because that in itself won't bring anyone back.

But eh, well, there's a multitude of reasons to go X86, so I won't make a fuss about it, should it happen to be the case. They've been ARM and PowerPC so long that they may have forgotten why.

@Skunkfish
I'm liking the proposition of an ARM based home console.

@Pod Yeah, I think there's advantages to having ARM in both home console and handheld. And without going to Intel I don't think there's an x86 suitable for a handheld (on the newer processes 4xA53 cores can consume as little as a quarter of a watt at the sort of clock speeds Nintendo use).

@Skunkfish
And seeing how they now have Unity exporting to New 3DS, building a home system around ARM would likely not scare away any of the indie and AA developers.

By the way, can I applaud you on your excellent choice in icon? Roland in Space is a dear childhood treasure to me.

@Sirk yeah thanks for that. apparently i've been making that wrong assumption across several threads. d'oh!

@Pod For me too. CPC was my first computer so holds a special place in my heart, especially those early Amsoft titles

@Skunkfish
I played a lot of games on the CPC, and it taught me to script in BASIC.Although my dad eventually threw it away I'll never forget the good times.

@Kroko
Has long as Nintendo is behind, with there brand of fun and games the NX will never be just a clone console.

@BigBarakuda I'm not too worried about this. The most important part of the work on the NX has been done under Iwata's leadership. There has been so little communication from Kimishima that it is difficult to tell in what direction he is taking the company now, but I still have hope for an interesting next gen. They seem to have something huge in preparation.