Meme Run is certainly a title that's prompted plenty of debate since it arrived on the Wii U in North America, and the latest twist in its brief history came yesterday when it was taken down from the eShop. Little information came from developer Ninja Pig Studios, though it updated its official website to change the game's product information - no longer saying available on Wii U, a link for a free PC and Mac download was actually a Rickroll.
That trolling aside, we're yet to receive concrete information from Nintendo of America after enquiring about the takedown. Details seem to have emerged via Reddit, however, as the individual that owns the copyright to the Trollface imagery - a user called Whynne on DeviantArt - has stated that he issued a DCMA takedown notice to Nintendo, having struggled to make progress with Ninja Pig Studios earlier in the year. Below is his original post.
Hello Reddit. There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the disappearance of Meme Run from the eShop, so I thought I'd help clear things up since its creator doesn't seem to want to acknowledge it publicly.
A handful of you might remember me, but (hopefully) most of you probably have no clue who I am. To keep it brief, I own the copyright to the Trollface image, and seeing as the image was the 'star' of Meme Run, I sent a DMCA takedown notice to Nintendo and want to try and settle the matter amicably. I don't really intend to have a discussion on fair use or explain my motivations beyond the fact that my business with other parties compels me to make sure that instances of copyright infringement are addressed and resolved. Typically the result in these matters is simply having the use of the image be credited, recovering some kind of monetary compensation, or simply have it removed from the work.
To that end, takedown notices are a necessary first step to quickly open a direct line of communication with the offending party and work on remedying the situation.
I did try to reach out to the creator earlier this year and obtain the information I needed, but he claimed that he was not at liberty to speak about his relationship with Nintendo or any of the particulars regarding the game's sales data. My lawyer had been busy working on another case (which I am actually not at liberty to talk about lest I void the terms of our agreement) and I prefer to let him handle the matter of my legal representation, so I sort of dragged my feet on actually setting this in motion so he could wrap up our current case.
So, whatever you may have thought of Meme Run, its absence might only be temporary. For those of you who were hoping to pick it up and missed their opportunity, I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
As detailed in the post, it's possible that agreement will be reached on crediting the copyright and providing monetary compensation for the game to return, or the matter could move forward in other ways.
The copyright owner does go on to answer some enquiries in this thread - he explains that he doesn't typically pursue every use of the image, and that he does have agreements with various companies to sell merchandise with the image. It's also clarified that the game was taken down the day after his DCMA was sent to Nintendo, suggesting his was the only notable copyright claim against Meme Run.
Quite how this'll pan out is unclear - there are legal processes to be followed and potential settlement; in the best case scenario there'll still be a future decision for the developer and primarily Nintendo, ultimately the platform holder, over whether the game will return to the Wii U eShop. Ninja Pig Studios has also, as mentioned previously, had to withdraw from publishing a game called Jumpy Cat over similar issues in the past.
It's not often an eShop game gets taken down, evidently, for breaching copyright on Trollface imagery, yet Meme Run seems to have made that a reality.
Thanks to Mike Marra for the heads up.
[source reddit.com]
Comments 61
Never been so happy before that a Troll exists to wipe this game from the planet.
Two games, both dropped because of copyright infringement, that's really not a good track record. I doubt we will see a third.
I can't believe that such a big deal is being made out of such a miserable game. There are far higher quality games on the eShop that haven't received even a fraction of the attention this piece of crap has.
I'm glad he called the copyright notice on it. It further illustrates the ignorant and unsavory way in which this developer operates. This kind of crap should not be supported.
@NauticalCrimes IQ Test is still up.
@Quorthon the big deal is that people are happy that the games are gone
Bout time. Shame the devs already made money from this.
@unrandomsam ah yes, I forgot about that thing
@Quorthon
I agree, but bad/crap news sells just as well as good news. When things that are done at the extreme of good or bad they seem to get more attention, right now were getting the terrible. and yet good news this game is gone.
Hm, this is bound to make a second round at some point. Ninja Pig will porbably just slightly alter the trollface and then resubmit it, I presume.
That said, people sure know how to give this guy attention. Instead of ignoring him, they fell right into his trap - which consisted of deliberate annoyance, ignorance, and outdated memes. The one thing that is of note here is that this guy clearly got what he wanted, money. And now he might earn some more with his "new" version of Meme Run which some "fans" will inevitably buy.
Good for Whynne and serves them right for releasing the most annoying in the last few years.
@unrandomsam I think he was talking about Jumpy Cat
Thank you very much, Whynne!
This guy Whynne did not create Trollface himself - just another bottom-feeder making money off the work of others
@VoodooTrumpet Whynne is the original creator of trollface, a character he created for a comic strip many years ago.
http://whynne.deviantart.com/art/Comic-Trolls-98357844
I am sorry for your ignorance.
I didn't even know that the Trollface is copyrighted. Well, I guess you learn simething new everyday...
@Spectator
My issue lies with giving this guy attention that he can turn into sales for crap should this travesty return. It's the same thing that happened with The Letter. It's pure crap, but sold because people talked about how terrible it was.
There are indies on the Wii U and 3DS that have put actual effort into their games--we should be talking about them, and this shouldn't even matter. Just annoying.
I understand that negative news "sells," and a good rule for getting web site hits is to write an article harshly critical of Nintendo, as that clickbait always draws the Nintendo fanboys to your page. It's just the amount of attention being given to bottom-of-the-barrel trite is disturbing.
I bet a lot of readers here will be happy to give this guy their money than him negotiating with Ninja Pig Studios for compensation on the use of his IP.
@NebulaGamer Original pictures or drawings? Of course? What planet do you come from?
Sounds fair. Hope they can come to an agreement.
@NebulaGamer Yes, people take the time to draw/paint/create those images. Why shouldn't we copyright them? It's lame that people seem to think an artist's work is free game on the internet...In this case it's a simple drawing, but still. That's someone's work, and they copyrighted it, and it was used for monetary gain without their permission.
thats so stupid, one should not be able to make copyright claims on any of the popular meme pictures outside of being able to say that they are the original creator of that drawing. hundreds of memes are made from those pictures, so if your going to try to get one game to be taken down because you want money you should have to take down all the memes and other games down too. also there are still more than a handful of games out there that use the trollface, so great you took down one game.
Yes! I knew the trollface was copyrighted!
This is the only time im happy with whynne did, otherwise, hes no better than NPS.
@blackbeltbap Great, let's create a meme using Mario and then make a game about our meme, even better let's sell the game on the PS Store. I am sure Nintendo will be happy about it, sure they don't complain.
This is the saddest copyright ever. : D
Trololololo
If mister Ninja Pig was dragging his feet despite the copyright holder trying to contact him, then yeah. He needs to be barred from ever posting on the eShop again. He has no respect for... anything, really.
@TheRedCap30 He got rekt.
I'm honestly surprised this hasn't happened sooner.
This is twice now for Ninja Pig Studios. If he keeps it up, his future games will probably be blacklisted for a bit from Nintendo and maybe other consoles. Nintendo especially doesn't like messing with legal issues like this.
@NebulaGamer
What do you think paintings or movies are? Images. One of them moves.
You can copyright anything that you made.
@Superstick Rematch you wot m8?
All laughing matter aside though, this took WAY too long to happen. Sould have happened before this appeared on Planet Earth.
@Quorthon
I don't think the big deal is the quality of the game. It just seems like it is because most devs are not dumb enough to pull this kind junk.
Also the guy who filed the complaint was a stand up dude about the whole thing and has nothing to apologize for.
"Developer Ninja Pig Studios, though it updated its official website to change the game's product information - no longer saying available on Wii U, a link for a free PC and Mac download was actually a Rickroll."
I noticed the article mentioned this as the developer trolling, and while I'm sure that was the kid behind meme run's intention, I'm not completely sure I would call it that. I mean, essentially what he did was put up a link and said it led to a useless half-assed game but then instead had the link lead to an (admittedly increasingly annoying) song which easily had 100 times the effort put into it.
No one should own the copyright to Trollface that is public domain. Its part of international internet culture now and to copyright it is a "troll move"
But really its like those people that try to copyright the word LOL and the guy trying to get money for Rage faces and people trying to make money off memes and foreveralone shirts.
They are public domain regardless if you have a copyright lol you can copyright anything if it hasn't been already that doesn't mean everyone on the internet will accept it.
I remember that guy trying to copyright the word Saga in games because of Candy Crush... I guess he never heard of Square's Romancing SaGa games...
Y'know, we tried to warn him this would happen if he didn't get rights or change some of the images, but nope- he just wouldn't listen. Personally, I'm glad he didn't, since now it can be removed from the eShop.
@SuprisedStar I wonder how much money he actually made off the game.
NinjaPigStudios deserved it since he got plenty of warnings of potential copyright issues and ignored them.
Development 101: Create your own characters. It really isn't that hard.
Ninja Pig depends 100% on just stealing licenses, blatantly lying about details, and coming up with games with almost no effort put into them. I remember when the fool came on here to laugh at NintendoLife's review of Meme Run saying how many 10s of thousands it will help him earn. Guess not! Hopefully Nintendo learns to not let this trash head keeps his garbage games on the eshop. Hosting the titles of a so called "developer" who brings about nothing but infringement cases looks bad on Nintendo
Just so all of you that were and are and will continue to complain about Ninty's quality control... Microsoft's is a lot worse.
Don't believe me?
NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw7FaBM2ayo
@sarkwalvein 1. that would never happen. 2. ok i guess i wasnt specific enough in what i meant, i meant something that gained popularity through being a freely used item like the tollface meme or any popular meme you can think of. I can go right now to a website and make a meme using the trollface and use it in a youtube video and get ad revenue and no one will ever even care. obviously, if someone were to take say the luigi death stare "meme" and try to make a game out of it, something every knows is obviously related to nintendo and try to make a game on a sony console nintendo may take it down( well acctually nintendo wouldnt care and the game would suck anyway). i guess my point is that people dont freely go around using nintendo's assets but everyone uses memes because they are accepted as being usable by everyone. also i'm not in any way defending meme run, the game is most likely bad and deserves being taken down.
Meme Run just got trolled!!! OOOOOH!
but anyway, hopefully the game doesn't come back. I can't even find myself downloading the flash version of that thing for free rather than spend money on it for the wii u. None of the memes are even any good.. like seriously, they're so old and worn out.. nobody uses any of the ones seen in this, they got stale. If meme runs purpose was to revive them, they did a terrible job at it.
Ironic that the creator of the trollface is a copyright troll.
It's such a common and iconic part of internet culture. Why not just release it into the public domain??
EDIT: That said, Ninja Pig Man has made far more money than he deserves to from this mess.
@kensredemption Annoying Orange would like a word with you
Yes! I told everybody the Troll Face was copyrighted!
@sarkwalvein Oooh, nice! Ya burned him good.
@nintendomasterr
Yes but that is your ideals. Unfortunately reality is different. I disagree on the no one should be able to copyright the troll face though. Just because it's accepted as a meme by the interwebs doesn't make something public domain. The truffle shuffle is still the property of whoever owns the Goonies name, not the Internet. They can sue the pants off anyone they please if they tried to make money off Chunk gettin down.
This shouldn't have even been a game on the eShop. I'm glad this was taken down.
Huh i guess @Gridatttack was right about that troll face being copyrighted.
Can't say I'm surprised. I do hope this game never comes back. It's a disgrace to the Wii U.
This game is a pile of crap. I'm f***ing pissed Nintendo allowed it in the first place.
Why are people so surprised and disgusted by the fact that a recognizable and overly popular and used character that could be easily stolen and monetized otherwise is protected by copyright?
@MorphMarron Totally. Why should people be able to profit from someone elses work?
This doesn't surprise me in the least, I knew this was coming one day. The trolface meme had to have been created by someone. I really hope this game stays away forever b/c I'm appalled by it.
I always found is discouraging that such a poor game was selling so well.
So this may be a good thing.
Oh oh, Guacamelee and Spy Chameleon also have the Trollface. Not as a main character but as a (secret) cameo. Hope those games don't get removed.
It's nothing to do with the standard of the game but to me there's irony to owning the copyright on Trollface. It doesn't seen in keeping with how the Internet and memes work!!
Either the copyright owner is very greedy or desperate to go after a game that uses stupid internet memes, let alone copyright one in the first place.
Looks like the Troll face copyright owner (Carlos Ramiez) stole the troll face from another comic, then filed copyright on it.
http://www.destructoid.com/meme-run-pulled-from-wii-u-eshop-by-trollface-creator-288593.phtml
Read the verbiage under the Reddit quote.
@NebulaGamer yes, otherwise you would see Mario everywhere with no way to stop it.
It's baffling enough that Nintendo allowed this on the eShop in the first place. Thank God somebody found a way for it to stop making money.
"I didn't even know that the Trollface is copyrighted"
Same with me!
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