Nintendo's had ups and downs with YouTube, drawing ire in summer 2013 for aggressively pursuing content claims before backtracking and eventually announcing plans for an affiliate program. The latter was confirmed in May last year, as Nintendo stated that it'd setup a partnership program to allow revenue sharing on YouTube, providing the opportunity for content creators to monetise Nintendo footage.
Nintendo has now finally launched a beta of this, calling it the Nintendo Creators Program, though at this stage it appears to only be available in the Americas and Japan. We've summarised the basic principles below:
- Interested YouTube creators can register for the program with their Google details, and they'll also need to use a PayPal account to receive their shares of revenues.
- If channels are registered they must only feature Nintendo first-party content, otherwise videos must be registered one at a time.
- Once registered, all video advertising revenues initially go to Nintendo, but then (within two months of the video kicking off in the program) 70% (channels) or 60% (individual videos) of revenue will go back to the creator.
- Only specified games are eligible for the program.
- A clear message must be read out or displayed in all registered videos.
Interestingly, the list of approved games has notable absentees, tellingly Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and the 3DS version; a rather surprising limitation. The approved list does also include a host of past-gen games, however, right back to the company's earliest days.
It'll be interesting to see how this progresses in its beta stage - while it's a positive that Nintendo is looking for constructive ways to allow YouTubers to use its intellectual property, it's still more stringent and demanding than the hands-off approach adopted by some other major publishers.
What do you make of this Creators Program? Do you think it's the right move by Nintendo? Sound off in the comments below.
[source r.ncp.nintendo.net, via neogaf.com]
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Only specific games? Sounds like Nintendo wants latest games only....which can be bad because what happens when that game turns out old?
Sounds like a good idea, but it needs serious reworking. Specifically the "first party games only" part.
Also, no Smash Bros? What?
From my understanding, only some cutscenes and music are copyright claim-able in the first place, so if you're already with a network or are a partner, this is pretty much useless. Unless they're just trying to bring in new creators, which makes the most sense.
@TheLilK98 I think this is mainly for those that aren't in a network or partnership, but I'm not a huge expert on the workings of YouTube.
Hey, I think it's a cool idea, but I'm not interested in making videos.
I think it's a bad idea and could be seen as confusing. Also taking 2 months to receive your revenue is going to be a major turn off for a lot of people, especially those who'd look at this as a potential full time job as some do.
And why miss out on including a game like Super Smash Bros fir the Wii U & 3DS? And if you played said game would you be in breach of the partnership?
We'll see but I think Nintendo has every right to some Nintendo-related YouTube contents. These YouTubers makes money out of other's IP after all.
IMO Nintendo is wise enough to have some control of their IPs NOW before the issues become even more bigger and gets out of hand.
I could compare some of these YouTube video contents on movies. Film makers acquire/ask/pay permissions on TV/videogame/film footages from their owners if they want to use it in their own movies.
Also it's not Nintendo's loss if some Angry Butthurt Joe decides to boycott Nintendo. Nintendo didn't pay him to advertise Nintendo games. It's the YouTuber's loss because average Nintendo YouTube viewers subscribe to Nintendo-related channels or view Nintendo-related videos. And a YouTuber's loss is someone else's subscribers/views gain.
Someone at HAL and/or Good Feel mustn't like this since i can't see any Kirby game in there. Neither Intelligent Systems since no Fire Emblem.
Why can't Nintendo just stop being a donkey about this and allow people to monetize youtube videos normally like almost every other video game company. It's not 1995 Nintendo, you can't control everything, stop trying to, all you do is make yourself look like a donkey.
And if you keep insisting on taking a cut of the videos, and than apparently, holding the money hostage for a period of time, guess what, people will just play different games on youtube, and you lose out on the free publicity.
@TheLilK98 That's about it. Because YouTube likes to jump the guns for some companies (i.e. Sega, Capcom, etc.) a system like this is unfortunately necessary to prevent further incidents like the ContentID rollout and attempt to grow new content creators, unlike YouTube itself.
@DarkKirby
No, it's the loss of the YouTuber because he just lost views from Nintendo viewers if he decides not to make Nintendo videos. Those viewers/subscribers will just move into another channel who makes Nintendo contents. Nintendo didn't lose anything because they didn't ask/pay some of these YouTubers. With this new program, they are in agreement. Also it's not free advertising because someone is getting paid. Read my edited post above.
@ThomasBW84 It seems to be. I guess the best way to look at it is as Nintendo's Machinima or Polaris. @JusticeColde When you put it that way, the concept of a system like this makes more sense. That being said, I think the creators should be getting at least 75-80% off of their videos, and waiting two months for payment is ridiculous. Hopefully Nintendo sorts that out sooner rather than later.
I need Paypal. Great. Now I'm afraid I might have to use money
@BensonUii
It's free advertising for Nintendo because Nintendo did not pay or ask those youtube content creators to make the videos, yet by them making the videos, its free publicity. And it was never about if Nintendo has the legal right to do so, it's about how sensible the decision is for Nintendo to be a donkey about it when you look at how nearly every other video game company has handled youtube (and Twitch).
@BensonUII You seem to be biased and dislike these people for doing what they do. Just because they have found a job that brings them peace and happiness, doesn't mean that they don't work as hard as you. Video editing can take some time, and require a lot of patience. Not to mention you also have to do a little bit of voice acting so you don't sound boring and annoying, like some "home video".
Also, once someone buys a game, it should be theirs to use. It's wrong if we no longer own the products we spend our currency on. The thing is, YouTubers are getting money for their commentary while playing the game. Not for the game footage itself. If they just put up game footage, it would be boring and uninteresting.
AKA: The Most Useless Youtube App Ever. (Seriously Nintendo, just let people record what they want, you did it with SSB tournaments and you can do it with normal videos)
What has this world come to
I think this is a step in the right direction, though the system could use some work. I think the cut they are taking is too large since, as I'm told, youtube still takes a cut of it. Also the having to wait around 2 months to get paid seems rough. I do think that Nintendo, and other developers, shouldn't be given so much hate if they only take a small piece since I see it as licensing fees.
People make money based on copywrited material. Nintendo are well within their rights to completely shut youtubers down. Doing this is them saying you can do it buy remember who owns the rights to these characters.
@alLabouTandroiD Except HAL is owned by Nintendo. I don't think they have much of a choice
@DarkKirby Answer this: why should people get paid for playing video games like this?
no big youtuber will go for this instead they won't make nintendo videos.
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The thing is nintendo sells software they even call it software, they have no business telling what you can or cant do with that software. Copyright only covers distribution its a archaic and unfair law that only favours people with power not creatives or consumers.
who sues people making tutorials for other types of software microsoft apple ?
NONE!!!!! its none of Nintendo business what you do with the software you buy from them, such is what happens when buy buy something... you own it.
for example if sell you cow, and tell the cow is only allowed to milked, the next day i find you started to make cheese with the milk from the cow, i go and 'update' the cow killing it in process and your told it ok because you agreed to it by singing my slimy terms and conditions, which i hasten to add violate your rights as a consumer.
game console makers have it to good for too long. They run monopolies on their console and some how getaway with it, that is unfair. So its no surprise why the likes of nintendo and other pull off shabby tricks like this.
yes nintendo aren't the only one who do stuff like this, but its time to speak out against companies who abuse their position of power.
bad move nintendo i expected better from you guys. even microsoft hasn't steeped to such lows.
I suspect this could deter a lot of youtubers from covering Nintendo products, which could mean less free advertising for Nintendo, causing less people to buy their products.
Perhaps this system would be better if there were no restrictions on which games to feature, removing the 2 month wait, and giving youtubers at least 80% of the advertising revenue.
@Artwark "The approved list does also include a host of past-gen games, however, right back to the company's earliest days."
@BensonUii It is free advertising because Nintendo doesn't pay people to play their games.
I have a feeling Super Smash Bros. is not on the list because they don't technically own all the content and any revenue on that game has to be divided up amongst all parties involved.
When you even look at the DK music in the game if refers to Rare meaning even Microsoft is earning royalties in this game.
I'm sorry but this whole sharing thing is ridiculous. Ive bought so many games after checking lets plays and whatnot ..people will check youtube anyway.
Every cent they can get their hands on they will grab I guess...
SY nintendo seriously SY.
Well, I look forward to this.
Wow that suck a lot! only those who are registered content creators can create videos from Nintendo games others get copyright strike (or content ID notification) also only specific games, 30-40% revenue to Nintendo and google take 30%? It`s so weard that Nintendo wants tax those who promote their games. If i would be video creator well simply I would go do videos of other companies games.
What I'm wondering is how is this affected Nintendo Life as their videos get posted to Youtube?
Nintendo Life has your videos also been hit by this?
This could use some improvement (More games added to the list, to name one suggestion), but it has a decent start so far. If I had a recording device, I'd consider giving this a shot.
Way to mildly screw over the people who actually advertise your games Nintendo.
Good thing you're doing such a bang up job yourselves... oh wait...
@Sionyn
LOL. You're comparing a cow from a copyrighted videogame material? There are terms of use on softwares. You don't really "own" the whole content. By your logic, software/movie piracy is legal because those who upload/reproduce them can do what they want when they bought their original disc copies? There are terms and conditions.
@BlatantlyHeroic
You bought the game so you could play it. Yes you own the disc if you bought it physically. But it doesn't mean you own the IP rights and characters in the game and make a profit out of using it.
If Sony Pictures bought a dvd/bluray of Disney's Avengers, can they use the footage on the disc to put in their own movies without permission from Disney? If Sony bought a Halo Xbox game, can they use the footage/characters from that game and put it in their own game? No, because they don't own the IP. They need permissions from Microsoft if they want to use it.
Some companies just don't waste their resources going after some of these YouTubers. Other publishers don't mind the use of their games on YouTube because they either don't care for now, they are afraid of the immediate backlash or they don't see the long-term danger of letting these YouTubers do whatever they want.
Microsoft updated their policy on their content usage in YouTube and twitch. It's not as Nintendo's level of control but it's the same. They basically want to have control on their IPs over YouTube/Twitch usage.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/developers/rules
@DarkKirby
They are making money out of someone else's work. Again I think this is a about having a control on their IPs now before YouTubers go out of control.
Within two months the creators will receive there income? Talk about a joke. Some people live off this money and 2 months just isn't going to cut it.
Hmm, could use some work. More games added, remove the two month wait for revenue, and remove the Nintendo 1st party only restriction for registered channels.
@IceClimbers
Well it's not on Nintendo's scope to include 3rd parties. It's the 3rd parties' publishers call on 3rd party games.
@BensonUii The issue is more that you can only register your channel(and thus get the better rate) if your channel only has Nintendo videos
Hm...it's a good start, but they should probably make it NOT first-party only, and make it less than a 2-month wait for revenue. Also, some more games would be nice.
@Sparx
Yeah I agree on your point on the rate. Still, Nintendo-only content should be rewarded more. They should make it 70-80% instead of 60-70% IMO.
I almost considered doing this, but I like to play and review other games besides simply Nintendo ones. I like to have a little variety in what I play and review, and if it's just Nintendo stuff, then it is going to get stale.
@NinjaWaddleDee You can. The difference is that if you play and review Nintendo content only, you can link your channel with their program, otherwise you have to link the videos separately.
Here's the problem Nintendo - Anyone who actually covers games on YouTube for their career is simply going to stop playing your games. Why would they possibly choose to accept these terms, this lower pay, and these restrictions, when their audience comes for them?
Sure, plenty of amateur YouTubers or severely devoted ones might jump on board, but they're not going to be giving you any extra advertising than you were already getting. Disappointing move again for Nintendo. They need to understand having control of everything isn't always the best answer.
They're free to carry on with their mistakes though. I'll continue to watch the YouTube channels I'm interested in that have ceased to cover Nintendo content for these very reasons.
Geez, just adopt the hands-off approach. YouTube channels playing your games is free advertising, and requiring them to utilize some abstract program is just going to tell a lot of those YouTubers to just skip Nintendo and play the games where the publishers aren't going to interfere with you.
It just makes them look, yet again, disconnected from modern gaming and society.
Extremely poor
There are no other companies taking such a huge cut are there?
This is terrible... As a youtube creator (part of a network too) I can tell that these conditions are horrific! Nobod's going to sign up to that xD Luckily I mostly do Nintendo Toys (amiibo, tcg etc) so I don't have to worry about their idiotic policies.
@TheLilK98 60% is pretty standard and 2 months is also standard. It's the registering and first party only and all those other limiting/time consuming constraints they impose that are the problem.
@Octane Which would in turn mean you wouldn't have a network, so only your nintendo vids would be payed, so you are forced to only do nintendo...
@Spakiness It just takes awhile to initialise, every network payment is like this. Besides, anyone in this programme would have to be a hobbyist as no sane pro youtuber would leave their network for this!
@TingLz Why should people get payed for playing sports? I'm sure they have fun...
Is Ninty really going to make a significant amount of money on this? As awesome as they are, they might have the worst advertising department I've seen from a big company (starting with the name of the WIi U itself). I think that they should just support the LPers by giving them a chance to be featured on their main channel; that would get more sales.
I'm not popular enough anyways. TwT
I was always conflicted on the idea of streaming games for profit, my friend just watches games instead of buying and playing them so yeah lost sale right there, it's hard to really say what's fair.
@PvtOttobot is that so? 60% seems kind of low. Granted you get your channel advertised and everything but still.
People are still going to complain.
@BensonUii Except the copyright strikes aren't just hitting people who make money on their Nintendo related videos. Even people who are doing Nintendo videos for free are being shutdown everyday on Youtube. It's pathetic really.
https://r.ncp.nintendo.net/guide/
I wonder why in System Requirements they forget about 3ds web browser?
No, they didnt forget. Web browser in 3ds sux a lot.
Any smartphone got better web browser than 3ds. That's a SHAME Nintendo.
Also: Why youtube on 3ds cant play playlists? (it plays but you have to manualy open next song/movie)
@TheLilK98 My network does it so that if you reach certain thresholds, your percentage goes up. You can even reach 120%!! Eventually when you're big enough, the network would rather pay you to stay than vice versa
None of the Mario Party titles are on there either, surely they must be 1st Party titles.
Totalbiscuit talks about Nintendo's 2013 attempt to claim Youtube content and about Let's Plays in detail but most of the discussion still applies.
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I think it's going in the right direction but i don't like the whole 'only games you play' or what 'video is right or not'. Hay at least it's better than the hold youtube copyright claim.
So, Nintendo is repeating on Youtube what they did with consoles years ago? Remember how well that went? Everyone jumped ship and ran over to the Playstation.
Two months turnaround on money is a massive turn off. Only being able to have Nintendo first party content on the channel for best profits is a huge turn off. Especially as that list of games is rather limited. They need to lighten up the restrictions to get it to work, allow second and third party titles, allow all current gen games at the very least (preferably all last gen games as well).
It's very difficult because I can see many channels wanting to get in on this but having to create subchannels just for their Nintendo stuff. I don't think Nintendo has to make it that annoying. I can understand them not wanting to promote channels that have Forza and Plants vs. Zombies and COD and Minecraft all mixed in, but let's face it - that's the best way for these people to earn a living off of playing video games (remember when our parents told us that was impossible?). Nintendo just has to face that reality.
@PvtOttobot Ah, a good question. Well, all those athletes have signed contracts that guarantee pay for their performances.
@TingLz Exactly my point, I'm paid in return for interesting, creative and entertaining content.
@PvtOttobot Um, no it's not your point. No one promised you money if you don't have a contract
@TingLz Actually I do have a contract, only certain youtubers join networks and each of these networks will give unique and sometimes personalised contracts detailing the amount of work they are required to do to get payed and how long they are stuck with the network. Do I need to make any more paralells or has that finnally sunk in?
Hm. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the terms. Well, I've got about one more year before I'm out of my network's contract, so I'll just observe how this progresses.
@PvtOttobot If that's the case, then more power to you.
It's absolutely baffling that Nintendo has taken all the ad revenue on YouTube vids up until now. Nintendo may be ahead of the curve in some things, but they're woefully behind in others. And if they really wanted to sell Wii U's, they would've done this in 2013 when their console was scraping along and selling next to nothing.
@BensonUii
you have no understanding of copyright.
also piracy is pillaging ships on the high seas nothing to do with file sharing as well as your complete lack of understanding of both the origin copyright and its legal fiction.
my cow analogy still stands nintendo have no right to tell what you can and can't do with something you buy, even though they try to migrate this with pseudo contracts its very thin ice when you think a contract can abstain you from following the law.
what it dose show is the shabby tricks corporation will steep too to abstain them self from laws which they rather not follow.
If you buy game you basically can't:
1. Made hacks, cheats and other that stuff and use them in online game.
2. Made money on it (which youtubers do).
BUT you start making money on youtube when your uploaded material got 10k views or 100k (i basically dont know).
If you made hacks on your personal use you can, but as i said above you cant use them in public.
First and foremost I find it RIDICULOUS that some people get payed for posting video's on Youtube. Putting video's on youtube is something you do for fun, not money!
Secondly: Stay free guys! Only you guys decide wich games you will cover, and what your opinion will be. Because I can imagine if one of your video's is a bit negative, then Nintendo forces you to remove it. Stay free!!
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