Platinum's Kamiya: "No Other Way" That Bayonetta 2 Could Be Made Without Nintendo

I'll be happy when they get dates

What is this game about, anyway? Why is having the sequel good if you never played the first game and don't have access to it on a Nintendo system to even know what's going on?

It's good Wii U has a quality exclusive like this but unfortunately for me I'm not really that bothered about it as I wasn't blown away by the original.

Wonderful 101 is a different story however!

im happy the wii u is getting more bo- games... i wanta buy a wiiu!!! D':

wonder if this will have some type of online multiplayer element?

I'm looking forward to purchase both The Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 from Nintendo and PlatinumGames.

So uh, were they coerced or something?

I wont be surprised if the game gets delayed for at least 6 months. Hell....if it goed multiplat (okay I might be corssing the line there)

I'm playing my first Platinum game now, being Metal Gear Rising. I like it more than other similar games I've tried (such as God of War), so I'm looking forward to trying Bayonetta later.

@rjejr EXACTLY!! With my luck I would have just bought a bunch of other games and then next thing you know they say it's coming out next week!! GIVE US THAT RELEASE DATE PLZ >

Also it would be nice is Beyonetta 1 was released on the eshop for $20 that would cool to.

It's exactly what Wii U needs. The fact it's a 3rd party exclusive makes it a bit more special and will attract buyers who may not have bought the console otherwise.

How about we just get The Wonderful 101 soon!!! = )

I'd want a release date for both games.....

The problem is, it's not really that much of a big crowd puller, since the reason 'it couldn't be done without Nintendo' was the fact the first game sold so poorly. It didn't get a sequel on the other consoles because Sega didn't feel it was worth the cost. If you can't turn a profit on the other two, it's going to be very hard to do it on Wii U.

@Zach777 just because it wasn't on a nintendo console doesn't mean no one played it

@Obvious78 - I highly doubt that Nintendo will ever let Bayonetta 2 go multiplat. Not to mention that they're publishing that sequel exclusively for Wii U.

i'm happy that bayonetta 2 will be made for wii u, but it sucks a bit that many other gamers that doesen't have a wii u, will be left out of a seriously great game, of wich the first one they played.

I'm really looking forward to this game.

@Peach64 It probably made a profit, but not comparable to something like God of War, which may have been a failure in Sega's eyes. I guess it could also be a factor that Platinum owns the IP (which they seem to do). Publishers are usually more interested in pushing stuff if they own the IP. The reasoning being "why put effort into growing something that we may lose later?"

Bayonetta
on the Xbox was one of its greatest games,I can't wait for this on the wii u!,this is exactly what the wiiu needs right now

I might have t pick up Bayonetta 1 on PS3 to see if the sequel is my type of game.

Although I have a PS3 and dead Xbox, it will be nice to see someone other than Nintendo fans miss out on some decent games for once. They need to get the original on eshop though.

People who are saying it's not fair to take it away from Sony and MS obviously never knew what gaming used to be like when Nintendo (and Sega) had all the franchises and then Sony bought exclusivity on every good IP and studio they possibly could. There were people who had bought 6 final fantasy games on Nintendo consoles before anything like this happened to them.

Just glad this game is getting a much deserved sequel.

@Peach64 I'm pretty sure they're away of that. I'd be ready to bet that they'll tailor the experience in a Nintendo way that will attract Nintendo fans as much as fans of the first game. The game is going to sell, I'm convinced of it. And if it happens to release around a period of other quality Wii U exclusives, it will definitely be a system-seller.

@Nintenjoe64 Well with Final Fantasy it was more Nintendos fault for sticking with charges. Square went with sony because of the disc based media.

Suck it haters! I love you so much Nintendo. Anything for more Bayonetta !

@ktribal no coercion; Nintendo financed the development. And that's also why it will remain a Wii U exclusive.

I think getting the original up on the eShop is a must. They could do it one-two months before the new title comes along to help building the hype!

Hey guys please sign and share this petition for SEGA to re-release the original Bayonetta on the Wii U eShop:
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/petition-for-sega-to-re-release-the-original-bayonetta-on-the-wii-u-eshop

@Madducks

Never said that at all. I was asking from my point of view since I do not own every console personally. If you support only one company (in my case Nintendo), what would be the point if buying a sequel to something on other consoles? You only get a portion of the story so it seems pointless. Hope that clears things up.

I still find it hilarious that people don't understand the situation. It has been made abundantly clear time after time. I suppose that wont stop the fanboys though.

I think they said this already...

What Bayonetta doesn't do in sales nr. it more then makes up for in respect among gamers. But

This is from http://www.siliconera.com: />Sega’s latest financial report included sales data for Bayonetta. Platinum Games’ climax action game rung up 1,100,000 million units worldwide on both platforms. That's a potential of 1 million customers

At least Platinum dont look like they'll cave in and make it multiplatform cough*Ubisoft*cough.

Never played the first Bayonetta, in fact never heard of it till this was announced, but will definitely be picking this up, seeing as people rank it as high up in their 'most anticipated' list as Zelda & Smash Bros.

When I was a kid, the fact that Nintendo and Sega were totally different beasts and had different games on each meant something- it gave the console an identity. These days there is very little variance between Microsoft and Sony's games lineup, the only differences being certain characters or levels or power-ups being available on one system and not the other. I personally think it's fun to have little gems that you can't find anywhere else. Not that the PS3 or Xbox 360 has that many 3rd party exclusives that anyone cares about!

Nintendo is at least trying to be different and because of this is taking more risks by funding games that have fallen through the cracks- both upcoming Platinum games are testament to this, as is the Lego City game. You could also argue that Microsoft and Sony couldn't of cared less about Rayman before the Nintendo reveal.

Also what makes me laugh is this idea that if Nintendo stops making consoles then the other 2 will get these games on their systems. The truth is with less competition the Xbox and PS3 would just get lazier and greedier. prices would go up, less innovation would come along, and long loved games that didn't hit a certain profit percentage would be scrapped. Plus you wouldn't get Mario and Zelda at the standard Nintendo expect for their own console, you would get a rushed uninspired product- like Sonic for SEGA has become.

Nintendo, for all their faults do tend to keep the quality of their own games for their own system (including the 3rd party ones he fund) quite high, even if that means they take A LONG time to come out. Franchises like Assassins Creed and Call of Duty come out with a new iteration every year, and that must hurt the quality control. You know when Zelda, Smash Bros, and Bayonetta 2 finally come out, they will have had a tremendous amount of effort put into them so they can be the best they can be.

I'll just say, score 1 for Nintendo!

Can't help but feel it's wrong to ignore the very fans that got Bayonetta to where it is now. It's great it's on WiiU and all but a game such as this should I feel, be a multiplat.

I own a Wii U, so the people who don't can cry all day as far as I'm concerned. I'm happy Bayonetta 2 isn't being held back by the 360's crap at any rate.

Are fans of the first still complaining? O_O

This sound quite ridicoulus... if they really have complains they should go to all the other publishers that didn't offered to platinum games the moneys for make the sequel...

Nintendo is the savior of Bayonetta fans, not the enemy!
Sorry for them if they feel bad their franchise has been saved by the "wrong hero", but would they really preferred to never see a sequel than seeing one exclusive for Nintendo? @_@;

@Zach777 Why should that be a problem? Timesplitters 2 was one of the most successive games on Gamecube. It never never saw the first. So I don't really get your point. Just because Bayonetta originally not started out on a Nintendo console doesn't mean we can't enjoy this sequel, or Mass effect 3, Black ops. 2, Trine 2 etc.

My god are people still complaining about this?

People still don't understand this situation?

@BakaKnight
@Ryno

Since when has logic and reasoning ever been effective against the masses of idiots who just want things "their way" (in ANY scenario).

If anything, they should be blaming their favored console manufacturers Microsoft and Sony for not putting up the money for the game, not Nintendo for doing so when nobody else would or Platinum for taking the offer.

@silenthunter382
Yeah I know the whole cartridge thing definitely had a massive say in what games never made it to N64 but Sony pretty much put golden handcuffs on all the best games at just the right time and managed to keep them on until last gen. I'm not saying Nintendo wouldn't do the same thing, it's just that Sony perfected the art of acquiring exclusives for a length of time only bettered by Nintendo's handhelds.
@Tsuchiya
Out of the million or so people who bought and played Bayonetta, lots of them buy multiple consoles and won't lose any sleep. There's also a chance that Nintendo will have a £200 console competing against a £400 one(s) this xmas. It's the beginning of a new gen so being on Wii U might give this game a chance to far exceed the original. There would also be a chance of this being an early PS4 game in which case even fewer people may have had the chance to play it than it being on the Wii U. Not to mention that Sega couldn't afford the risk of making the multiplatform sequel. I bet most of the whiners on the internet didn't play it anyway!

@seronja How about they buy a Wii U then?? Or should a Nintendo-gamer-only expect all PS360 games to now, all of a sudden, appear on the Wii U?? If people want the game, they'll have to buy the console: what's the point in being a hardware manufacturer if you have to be made to feel bad for securing exclusives??

This game looks great, I never played the first one but this looks awesome. Also I really cant wait for the Wonderful 101 to release. TAKEMYMONEY!

people are still complaining?! goodness. the double standards are extraordinary though: it's okay for PS3, 360 owners to have games like bayonetta but they think it's not right for nintendo fans, wii U owners to be entitled to games like bayonetta, and as a exclusive?

for 6 years during the wii's lifespan, and in spite of wii's sales, we've seen some great games from capcom, konami, sega to name grace sony and microsoft systems, whilst wii got mostly shovelware from 3rd parties.

i hope wii U secures more exclusives - shenmue 3 anyone? yet the more quality 3rd party titles, the better.

@Tsuchiya
This game wouldn't even be on any console if it weren't for Nintendo. True fans of the game should be happy it showed up on any console considering it wouldn't even be there at all otherwise. There's reasons to own more than one console BTW, so I'm getting the new Xbox too = console exclusives/features solved.

Hopefully they will port the original as well!

Fanboy mentality: "I'd rather Bayonetta 2 didn't exist, rather than it being an exclusive".
And if you guys are surprised about how people still can't understand the situation, you over-estimate the IQ level of most gamers (as much as it pains me to say that)
With that said, I'd like to see the original Bayonetta on the Wii U before the sequel comes out, even as an eShop download-only title.

@Zach777 Bayonetta is a witch with the power to control hair that fights the legions of heaven and hell. It's a fast-paced action/adventure game kinda in the vein of Darksiders or Devil May Cry.

As a side note - Her outfit is completely made of hair, the more powerful the attack, the less clothing she has while performing the attack.

Whole game is pure fan service, but the first one was fun.

@Zach777: Think you have it bad? I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan, you do the math.

I'm pretty sure they have said this on multiple occasions. If people want a game that badly, save money, then buy the console it's on. It's not rocket science.

...haven't played the 1st Bayonetta, but I'll get this one.

My most eagerly anticipated U title.

Good to see Bayonetta still going but i highly doubt anyone is going to buy a Wii U just for one game Bayonetta2, unless they where buying a Wii U anyway. I'm looking forwards to playing it hopeful on the Pro controller, i'm just hoping it's still the same Bayonetta (Game).

@Osc-Sync Platinum can cave in all it wants, it won't matter an inch since Nintendo now OWNS the rights as publisher so never in a million years is this going to another console unless Nintendo feels it has a good reason to ALLOW that to happen. Maybe one day when they all get totally drunk they'll screw up and make a trade with Microsoft to get Rare back. (although Rare coming back in reality wouldn't even be that bad: Nintendo is in fact the only company that got the best games out of them for a longer period than any other) Legions of butt-hurt current gen HD console fans would once again be delighted to get their 'rightful' sequels back on a console that they think it 'belongs' to. Sigh...
@SCAR392 My thoughts exactly, but you said it first, so thank you for saving me the trouble. 100% in agreement. Last gen I had the Wii60 combo, this coming gen WiiUinfinity (since Infinity is what the 'Nextbox' is supposedly going to be called instead of everybody still using it's codename Durango or the totally stupid 'Xbox720' which absolutely makes no sense at all)

@Obvious78 Blind guy, I see.

@SCAR392
While we own them a lot, Nintendo are not the be all and end all of the gaming industry. It's taken much more than them to get it to where it is now.

@TheRealThanos
Ya, 720 doesn't really make sense. You're still stuck in a half turn which doesn't complete a cycle, if it really matters how literal the name is. I'd say 1080 over 720 if it is a number, though.
Only Microsoft knows.

@Tsuchiya
That was kind of the point of me saying Xbox is a go to console as well in equal cases. I don't really like PS as much as Nintendo and Microsoft consoles, though. I feel like PS always ends up borrowing concepts from both of the other 2, like Move and online, but those may have been in development at the same time.
Either way, all the companies don't have something the other ones do like bluray, other OS(taken away), etc. I personally don't really care for anything but the bluray anymore when it comes to PS3, which was kind of it's main appeal in the first place IMO.

@SCAR392
PS3 borrowed from LIVE and good on them because frankly, it's an incredible service. Both are but Nintendo's offering is a joke in comparison.

Nothing wrong with looking over the wall now and then, Nintendo. It's hard work being a Nintendo fan sometimes. Just hope Bayonetta 2 is under the £50 mark on eShop when it hits. We don't need another new AC3.

I have all the consoles, so no biggie. I still consider PS3's service more of a joke than Nintendo's, just because it borrowed concepts at all.
Nintendo's online may seem like a joke to some, but it made me laugh my ass off. LOL.
PS3 basically built itself around both Nintendo and Xbox whenever it was possible, and that's no joke, but it still makes me laugh.
Random strangers bugging me is no longer an issue when it comes to Wii U. I can wait an extra hour for DLC, too. No problem, I got lots of time, and games to play in the mean time.

Oh ya, not to mention that it took years for Xbox and PS to get stuff worked out to where it is now, and Nintendo is basically all caught up in one go vs. a long gradual improvement, with gradual improvement to come from every standpoint, no doubt.

@SCAR392
Caught up?
Lol'eth.

They are miles behind.

@Tsuchiya Maybe to you.

@SCAR392
The distance between Nintendo especially in the online department and the others speaks for itself. Nintendo have had a lot of chances to 'catch up' and they haven't acted upon them. I love Nintendo I do but WiiU has a distinct Game Cube odour about it.

They've grown yes, but they are always behind the competition. Take off those stupid Luigi hats and focus!

@Tsuchiya
Ya, but I liked GameCube the most that gen, so that's good news for me.

@SCAR392
You may have liked it, I did too but it was a fail.
It was that gen that saw me open myself up to all systems. Nintendo kinda forced my hand on that one.
Again, it's great Bayonetta 2 is on WiiU after all the original is amazing but I don't like seeing these sequels and broken up series plonked onto WiiU without their relatives present. It's not so bad if you have played these games as was intended but I don't understand how some can play say, Mass Effect 3 and through sheer Nintendo fanboyism, ignore Mass Effect 1&2 etc. It's crazy.

Play other systems. Nintendo won't cry if you do.

@Tsuchiya
I like Xbox 360. That's the first non Nintendo system I actually liked besides Sega Genesis. I liked Dreamcast, too, but we all know Sega's just loading ammo for all the companies now. I just feel like PS2 was too weak to play games I wanted, and Xbox's online was still new and I couldn't afford it.
Free internet is the way to go. If Microsoft didn't charge for online, they'd be king, considering they can actually do that without going under. I don't think that's the case as of yet.

You get what you pay for and LIVE is a great service. PSN is even better. Almost like a LIVE 2.0
Microsoft charge peanuts for their online service considering what you and I as the consumer get back but looking at how PS3 does it's business, it's about time Microsoft drop the handcuffs. The beauty of the PS3s online service is that it's free, crammed full of stuff and the prices are fair. Having the option to upgrade is always handy but it shouldn't be either online or offline. If some want free online services, great but some may like to pay to improve it or access new, extra features.

The one thing I don't like about WiiU is these eShop prices. No excuse for them.

I agree with the options, but Xbox Live has to be paid for in order for it to be anything pretty much. Wii U can basically do anything game related for free that Xbox offers in terms of services. The only thing Nintendo is truly lacking is a media fix for movie and/or music junkies, which they did mention they are finding ways to do that. It's just not out right now.
I honestly don't care much for the media features anyway, and look at it as only extras on a game console so it would be hard to argue that's a key feature to me. I only ever bought Xbox Live to play the exclusive games like Halo and Gears online, and bought the multiplats on PSN for free online.
The best solution if that's what you plan on buying your console for, would be to just buy the other next gen consoles instead of complaining/arguing that Nintendo is not doing the right thing for the consumer, but they aren't out yet. Nintendo needs the money from eShop games to get better features on there, and there are discounts whether you use a combination of GameStop, Best Buy, or eShop deals.

Crazed fanboy loads up his rifle, straps on his grenades and headband, hops on Twitter: "Who's idea was it to make Bayonetta a Wii U exclusive ?"

I'm just glad this game is getting created at all. I haven't played this series but I have heard good things about it. It looks interesting at the very least.

Glad to see Nintendo are willing to support games that are not guaranteed huge sellers. Hopefully we can see more of this in the future from not only Nintendo, but other companies as well.

It's been half a year and people are still not over this. It's been just about 2 months for Rayman Legends and we're already excited about AC4 and Watch Dogs on Wii U. (I know I am.)

I'm sorry to say this but, fanboyism is very real. And it will only get stronger as all next generation consoles will be in stores and the average gamer will not be able to own all three consoles right away, if he ever does. We hear countless times about how Nintendo fans are deemed to be fanboys, always raging at the slightest doom prediction; but the other hand of the spectrum, as proven in this article, is just utterly ridiculous.

People don't want to admit it, but gamers who don't own Nintendo hardware just hate Nintendo, fair and simple. They'd rather die than see their favorite games on Nintendo's consoles. Sadly for them, the reality is that just about all of these games are neither made nor financed by Sony and Microsoft, which makes them elligible to be on Nintendo: and they just don't want that to happen.

Who cares if we aint got the first game! We didn't get the first Darksiders game but the second was amazing!

@Tsuchiya - I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. Xbox Live is a terrible service; a service that requires you to pay for basic features that are free on Sony and Nintendo consoles. Playstation Plus is a paid subscription service done right.

Oh, and you said this; "They've grown yes, but they are always behind the competition. Take off those stupid Luigi hats and focus!"

Call me meladromatic, but it's this kind of mentality that is leading to the homogenisation of gaming creativity. You say Nintendo are always behind the compeition - yet this is the same company that redefined the industry with the Wii and DS, and are always having their ideas stolen by the competition. The fact that their bosses can have fun and be goofy in web videos is exactly why I love the company; that they can act like gleeful children in a stuffy industry filled with souless suits and moneymen. Nintendo should not be emulating the business practices of the competition (as if their superior profits weren't evident enough), nor cater to the whims of a group of elitists that demand some sort of unification of online services; where everything on every platform should be the same, and NOTHING should be different. Nintendo should do what Nintendo have always done - be creative, innovate and not constrain themselves by popular trends.

Oh, and on-topic: I may have to check the Gamefaqs boards. Should be a laugh.

I'm very happy

The first Bayonetta was a really good game but it didnt sell well for a couple of reasons. First, the PS3 version had issues, which took a later patch to fix but the damage had been done. Second, 3rd person action overload on the PS3, as this came out around the same time as Dantes Inferno, Castlevania, Enslaved, Darksiders, and while everybody was waiting for God of War 3 which came out a few months later. That overload wont be an issue on Wii U so I think it will sell well, though not a system seller. Being an exclusive should mean no technical shortcomings as well, l just hope they dont force the gamepad upon us, its a very fast fighting game, not Zelda.

@Kage_88
Totally disagree
You're too blocky.

My gosh, this is still a topic? Nintendo bought, no, even saved the game, so they won't release it for ps360, full stop.

@Kage_88

Amen!

Don't bother with the GameFAQ boards. I'm a refugee from there. They have been taken over by trolls and every topic quickly descends to Nintendo is doomed or reassurance or game x isnt going to be on the Wii U !LOL!

This place is soooooooo much better. I can never go back.

Will get this for sure:D