Braid Is Too Big For WiiWare

I have been following this game around for a few months, hoping it may come to wiiware. My dreams have been broken. Someday I hope I can play this game. Retail, please?

Hrumph. I wonder how many developers actually try to make their games smaller? Not that I'm defending the fact that the Wii is woefully low on space (hindsight is 20/20, eh?), but a little bit of optimization can go a long way.

Having taken the (virtual) trophy for a 4 kilobyte game before, I know what is possible and what is not. And one thing I know is that there are ways games like this could be done if the developers are interested. Unfortunately, I don't think they feel that there will be enough of a return to make the work worth the effort.

I've never heard of this game but it seems very interesting.

Also, where is the Strong Bad review?

And I thought it was only fans that suffered from lack of storage.....
These publishers are losin' money that could have been made on WiiWare.

this sucks! ninty really needs to do something! save files take up like a third of my space!

SSBB: 128
Blast Works: 128
Elebits: 109
Metal Slug Anthology: 29
Mario Kart Wii: 26
plus all of the 1-25 blocks games!

if my wii could use sd hc cards i would be more than happy to buy an 8gb sd.

if only the people who made the wii thought that would be a good idea too

I don't know much about this game, but my friend won't stop talking about it, so I would check it out if it came to Wiiware.

144MB is nothing! This is madness!

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That's too bad. It looks like a fantastic game. I don't have a 360 nor am I planning to get one so unfortunately I'm going to have to skip this altogether .

Besides, I wouldn't be able to download it anyway. I have 0 blocks left on my Wii. Exactly zero.

@Cooldued59
144mb is something if you think about the fact that only just less than 300mb of the Wii's storage is only used for games & storage .
Its a real shame that you can't used the partion on memory that is set aside for the message board photos for that irpose instead .

while that is nothing as compared to using ma 2GB SD card as my card still have a whopping amount of room in it still but let i ended up having to delete a lot of games & it's getting harder deciding what to deleate every time .

I can't wait for Nintendo's solution this this mess .

All the complaining... Either code efficiently or put your game on a disc, problem solved.

I shed yet another tear...

Maybe someday in the future...of course, I go through hell enough downloading 40MB games like Wild West Guns do to my crappy connection/Crappy WIFI/Crappy Wii shop to worry about 144!

Here's a great off topic plan:
Make the freaking gamecube controller work on the Wii's main screen. I'm tired of controller hopping. Soooooo many peripherals soooo many >.< the horror....

@Drizzt
Woah, exactly zero. My NAME is ZERO and I don't have that little blocks! I got 18.

Braid, what a big game.... what a biiiiiig biiiiig game.... you know what needs more storage space for these types of games? WIIWARE! I'M A WIBBLYWOBBLYWEARWOLF CHECK THE 'TAR.

For now the solution is simple, buy a 360 too. Wii60 FTW!

QFT.

I'm happy, looks awful. Much rather play Toki.

and the future is download only games?

Umm guys... This game is also going to be released for the PC this year, according to the officail Braid Game website (braid-game.com). So I would hold-off buying a $300+ consloe just to play one $15 dollar game If I were you.

Hmm, I never even thought about this game coming to Wiiware, but it would make perfect sense, due to all the Super Mario Bros. references it's supposed to have. Hell, if I'm right, the whole thing is supposed to be one giant Mario reference. It would make a great compliment to Toki Tori too. But it doesn't matter, as I'm getting a 360 anyway. But still, Penny Arcade and this. Both too big for Wiiware. Nintendo, TAKE THE HINT ALREADY!!

@Demon. All those review sites don't seem to think so. You should try playing it before you dismiss it.

@Kidpit. I don't want a 360 just for Braid, I also want it for Rez hd, Project Gotham, Pacman Championship Edition, Geometry Wars, Dead Rising (even though it'd coming to Wii), Ninja Gaiden, Gears of War, CoD4, SoulCalbur IV.......

@Drizzt. You have absolutely NO blocks left at all? How's that possible?

I thought the game looked ugly and boring from all the previews, but I just saw it in action and it is quite a surprise. All skeptics should try the demo of it if they are able to.

I got to the doppleganger world and began to get a bit too frustrated to enjoy it, but that's certainly not enough to write it off as a bad game because I didn't give it much time, and it was a lot of fun before then.

It makes much better use of the time-rewind mechanic (which should be used in more games in place of complete level restarts) than Prince of Persia: Sands of Time did, anyway.

It doesn't look any more impressive than Yoshi's Island to me, but I'm not an expert in these matters.

@Mr. Cheez

Stop it, you're made me drool! Throw in UT3 and N+ and you got my reasons for wanting that console right there.

Too bad, this is a good game, and contrary to what the initial reaction to the price was, it's selling pretty well. Now it's releasing on PC and PSN to become even more successful. Considering how it's already doing so well, I can see why getting it on Wiiware isn't exactly high priority, and without the ability to download demos, I don't think it would help it anyways.

@DEMON212

It looks and sounds like a lot of fun to me, but then again, I love platforming, puzzle solving, and time-control elements, so it'd be the perfect game for me.

@ Mickey.

So do I.

Everyone said that LW was amazing and while it has great controls & graphics, it's boring.

This looks like Blinx crossed with LW.

I hated Blinx too. I'll try the demo at some point, but I don't hold out much hope as after watching Zit worth it. I learned all I needed to know about it.

My fanboyishness refuses to let me give in and buy a 360. I shall instead continue to ineffectively bitch about a hard drive on websites like this! My voice will never be heard by anyone other than the "geeks and otaku" on this website, but I don't care. Also, how can I fit Ocarina of Time or Paper Mario on my Wii, but not Braid? If I can keep the lion's share of my 45ish VC/Wiiware games on my Wii, why can I not keep this?

@DEMON212

I guess it's all up to your interests. I like games that put forth new ideas, and put them to good use. To me, Blinx looked cool, in fact, it was the only game on the original Xbox that looked worth owning back in the day. I loved Lostwinds, and there was rarely a dull moment for me. Braid seems like XBLA's Lostwinds, and that's reason enough for me to get it, but if you didn't like Lostwinds, then you're probably not going to like this, albeit there's more going on, and the puzzles are far more varied.

I don't suggest Echochrome to ya Mac, since it's PSN's Braid, a smart, unique puzzle that's a little on the short side. I loved it personally, but our opinions don't exactly match up.

Dang, Wii need a hard drive. And I need XBL.

id pay $100 straight up for an external hard drive just for the wii, i dont care if its ugly it bloody needs one!

Something's GOT to be announced at Lezpig or TGS

PLEEEEEES NINTENDO

I really hate it when games with artistic looks come out, and everyone says that it's something new.

LW did nothing new. It's basically Kirby Canvas with tacked on Wii controls. Only Kirby had an interesting story and fun gameplay.

Braid as aforementioned is Blinx and LW.

And Echochrome was one of my most wanted games until I played the demo. However it's not new.

I hated the controls and the camera. And for a game like that, they've got to be spot on.

As for time games, what's the point?

If you give people a reverse time option the game becomes far to easy (POP, Blinx, that awful 360/PS3 Time game etc...). If you boast about being able to control time as a feature but then put a limit on it, it's not really a useful feature, nor is it really a feature at all.

I can't wait for LBP to hit, although like 99% of everything released this gen, it'll look amazing but play terrible. Or be easy. Or be boring. Or have tacked on crap that'll ruin it. Or be amazing but then the console will die wiping your data as you reach the last level.

Okay, so maybe it's not the most original, but I think I'll just take Dazza's word on it for right now, and just say it probably does good in what ever it does.

Oh, well... looks like I might be getting this game on the PSN... I just downloaded Pixel Junk Eden and I'm enjoying it a lot. I'm waiting for something good to come out on Wii Ware... I'm kind of curious about the Strong Bad game, but I'm waiting on reviews for it.

Again, I watched Zit worth it. Where the guy shows and explains that you're doing all the same time stuff over and over again, that's been going on for years.

He shows a part where you have to collect a piece, rewind time, play it back and collect another piece. So that there's 2 of you on screen at once.

That's the same thing you had to do in Blinx.

And my comments aren't negative.

I'm saying that it does nothing new. That's not negative.

I'm saying that it looks like Blinx. Not negative.

I'm saying that personally, it doesn't look as good as Toki. That's not negative.

Lost Winds sucks. Now THAT'S negative

As I've already said, I'll try the demo when I can.

I agree, Wii60 FTW.

I prefer PSWII60. Only problem is, the 60 part usually isn't working.

If a was Nintendo, i remove the Wiiware service. It doesn't stand against PSN or XBoxLive. Everybody can see it. Braid, Pixeljunk Monsters,Bionic Commando:Rearmed, Super Stardust HD and many others are way better than anything Wiiware have. The only good thing Nintendo have is the VC. But for new stuff, Nintendo have lost. .

Sad to hear that Braid won't be making the leap; it sounded like an interesting romp.

When Nintendo releases the Wii2 console in the future, it will probably have bigger space for games like WiiWare.

Off course it wont fit in wii ware, it is a game coded for both SD and HD. if developers of Braid are just not lazy to just optimize the code to remove the codes for HD, then I see no reason why they can't port it.

@ David77.

So far I'm in total agreeance. Once they finish off the SBC series, if they don't get the big hitters out, they might as well can it.

There's the problem right there: bitmap files. Absolutely no effort to compress the textures at all. Use PNG compression for textures with low complexity (like text or color gradients), and Jpeg compression for textures with a high complexity (like photos or bump maps). Actual pixel resolution most likely can safely be reduced by up to 33.3%, since the Wii is only 480p and not 720p or 1080i like the PS3 and Xbox 360. So it should be possible to to compress textures down to at most 1/10th their original size. Individual textures are decompressed on the fly as they are loaded into memory. Problem solved.

Maybe when we get the SD update this Spring we can get this and Penny Arcade!