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gustavomartinez

Hey. Can anyone with the experience tell me if there is any remarkable difference (graphicly) playing for example mario galaxy on wii comparing with wii u? I have seen some goodlooking videos of galaxy in HD but dont know what to believe. Would like to buy som wii games but going back to standard definition isnt so tempting. So would really like some input. Sry for my english.

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epicmatt12302

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

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Wii games on the Wii U GamePad look miles better.

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unrandomsam

I think Wii games look best on a CRT. (On a Wii).

Not to mention the properties that make a CRT best for playing older games. (i.e NES/SNES VC plays right and looks somewhat right - SNES is missing scanlines).

I switched back from a pretty decent for games plasma to play Super Mario RPG and ended up preferring it for everything.

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unrandomsam wrote:

I think Wii games look best on a CRT. (On a Wii).

Not to mention the properties that make a CRT best for playing older games. (i.e NES/SNES VC plays right and looks somewhat right - SNES is missing scanlines).

I switched back from a pretty decent for games plasma to play Super Mario RPG and ended up preferring it for everything.

As someone who was stuck with an ancient SD television until early this year, you can tear my new HD plasma from my cold dead hands. I never understood the love for scanlines anyways - I always thought it looked like pixel emphasis, not a a good thing.

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I play console type PC games on my plasma (At 1080p/60fps). My Wii U is connected to it as well but I am not sure I am happy with it. (And I don't know exactly why either - Tropical Freeze is perfect).

I have tried some of my Wii games on the Wii U and I just prefer it on the CRT.

I can put up with a none 60fps framerate better on a CRT as well.

The input lag is correct which many older games assume.

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I wonder if the same super sampling trick that Dolphin uses could be done in a similar type of device to the XRGB ones.

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Ralizah

epicdude12302 wrote:

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

Am I missing something? I was told you can't use the GamePad to play Wii games.

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Ralizah wrote:

epicdude12302 wrote:

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

Am I missing something? I was told you can't use the GamePad to play Wii games.

It "displays" Wii Games.

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Ralizah wrote:

epicdude12302 wrote:

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

Am I missing something? I was told you can't use the GamePad to play Wii games.

You can use the screen to display the games, but the buttons and touch will not work.

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Morphbug wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

epicdude12302 wrote:

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

Am I missing something? I was told you can't use the GamePad to play Wii games.

You can use the screen to display the games, but the buttons and touch will not work.

Pretty sad, actually. I'm sure Nintendo could've made it possible to use the GamePad as a Classic Controller - but they didn't.

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[quote=Kaze_MemaryuPretty sad, actually. I'm sure Nintendo could've made it possible to use the GamePad as a Classic Controller - but they didn't.

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From what I heard if you're using component cables with the Wii , it will look better than the Wii games on the Wii U, but if you used standard cables before, then obviously it will look better with the Wii U.

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Morphbug wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

epicdude12302 wrote:

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

Am I missing something? I was told you can't use the GamePad to play Wii games.

You can use the screen to display the games, but the buttons and touch will not work.

Pretty sad, actually. I'm sure Nintendo could've made it possible to use the GamePad as a Classic Controller - but they didn't.

That is actually a very complicated thing to do , probably impossible, considering many Wii games use motion controls etc.

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Joeynator3000

I think it still could be done for some Wii games...but anyways yeah I never did check to see how the Wii games look on the GamePad screen. I just know they look better in general than on the Wii due to the HDMI.

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dumedum wrote:

From what I heard if you're using component cables with the Wii , it will look better than the Wii games on the Wii U, but if you used standard cables before, then obviously it will look better with the Wii U.

I'm pretty sure I have component cables on my Wii, hooked up to a big HDTV. Yet the games still look way better when run on the Wii U hooked up to the same TV.

I'd theorize that it's because the Wii U is optimized for HD displays while the Wii is not, and so the Wii U can make proper use of whatever high definition voodoo's going on here. Something like that. Old software can't always be run well on newer technology.

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Ralizah

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Ah, so you squint at the gamepad and use a different controller to play with while looking at it.

Thanks for the clarification. I love off-screen play, but that sounds like more trouble than its worth. :/

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Kaze_Memaryu wrote:

Morphbug wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

epicdude12302 wrote:

The Wii U plays Wii games slightly better than the Wii on your TV, but when you play Wii games on the Gamepad, you can barely notice the Jaggy lines that appear around objects, and it almost looks like 720p.

Am I missing something? I was told you can't use the GamePad to play Wii games.

You can use the screen to display the games, but the buttons and touch will not work.

Pretty sad, actually. I'm sure Nintendo could've made it possible to use the GamePad as a Classic Controller - but they didn't.

The Gamepad runs off a second WiFi module, not Bluetooth like the Wii remotes do. The Wii mode, in order to maintain a 100% compatibility rate, needs a hardware environment native to the Wii, which does not include this second WiFi module. The reason why Wii games can be output to the Gamepad is because the Wii U mode that runs in the background (it uses the dual-core ARM chip, not the tri-core PPC used by Wii U games and Wii mode) captures the final output from Wii mode that is usually meant to go straight to the TV, and send that off via that second WiFi module, not interfering with Wii mode at all.

Until they merge Wii mode into Wii U mode (if that ever happens), they won't have the capability to allow non-Wii hardware to interact with Wii games.

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unrandomsam

Is there a good reason they couldn't update the ios's in Wii mode to allow it ?

For certain they could have added a switch to allow the pro controller to work in Wii mode as a 3rd party has done exactly that.

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skywake

They could do it, the excuses I hear people make for them are pretty average. There were endless threads arguing the same thing about not even being able to display Wii games on the GamePad. But they did. I suspect at this point they just don't care as much about Wii backwards compatibility to push for it. Especially given only a handful of games (mostly VC content) worked with the GamePad equivalent Classic Controller anyways....

As for the look of the games and how they play. I'd say the Wii U does a better job and the games do look better on the GamePad. Mostly because the GamePad is only 480p which is the native resolution of Wii content. Of course it looks good. On the Wii U though running on the TV "at 1080p" it still looks decent. It's up-scaled not rendered at 1080p but it's through HDMI not component or composite. Plus given it's throwing a HD signal at your TV, which your TV is likely optimised for, you'll get less input lag than you would with a SD resolution. So it's better all round..... just not "HD".

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