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C-Olimar

Interesting how Donkey Kong fans are up in arms about the series' "under-representation" when Diddy is one of the least favourite characters.
Maybe K.Rool should have replaced Didds?

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Jazzer94

C-Olimar wrote:

Jazzer94 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

Everyone hates Dark Pit, but Falco is okay. Never change internet

Well Falco is awesome and Foxes right hand man, Dark Pit was mostly just a douche in Uprising.

But he saved Pit

Doesn't change the fact he is still a douche.

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Yoshi_Prime wrote:

DreamyViridi wrote:

Yoshi_Prime wrote:

I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.

If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.

Edit: I see what you did there.

Except removing Lucina would make no difference to the roster. From what was stated by Sakurai before, she's essentially a free character, so you'd get nothing for removing her from the roster. While not confirmed, the same could apply for Dr. Mario and Dark Pit too.

Well, by removing the five and adding the five, it'd even out. Of course, I forgot about Sceptile. I figured that, since they removed the PKMN Trainer and made Charizard its own character, plus Greninja, that they'd add a Grass starter. I was wrong. Where's the Grass love? And, yes, Alex Roivas. I've never forgotten Eternal Darkness. I know you still have that IP, Nintendo. I mean, I'm not going to throw the game away because of clones. I just find them lazy.

Removing five characters that probably didn't required as much effort in favour for five characters that do need more attention probably wouldn't work out. Like I said earlier, Lucy's a free character, she didn't replace anybody and you'd get nothing out of removing her. It's not a matter of numbers but programming and such. Also, we don't really need a Grass-type. Wanting him in is perfectly fine but note that Greninja > Charizard > Lucario is a weakness triangle they have going, if that's one's point. I can't help but feel that Sceptile doesn't add much compared to the other Pokémon rep.

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All this Dark Pit hating is rubbing me the wrong way. Beware when he might become one of my new mains!

I'll be right there with you with Lucina if that happens.
Though I remember her not doing too badly in those polls.

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NintyMan wrote:

All this Dark Pit hating is rubbing me the wrong way. Beware when he might become one of my new mains!

Same. It's getting on my nerves and making me feel like I'm wrong for liking him so much...

Jazzer94 wrote:

C-Olimar wrote:

Jazzer94 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

Everyone hates Dark Pit, but Falco is okay. Never change internet

Well Falco is awesome and Foxes right hand man, Dark Pit was mostly just a douche in Uprising.

But he saved Pit

Doesn't change the fact he is still a douche.

They are both douches, come on! But I don't remember ever liking Falco... XD

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Jazzer94 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

Everyone hates Dark Pit, but Falco is okay. Never change internet

Well Falco is awesome and Foxes right hand man, Dark Pit was mostly just a douche in Uprising.

But Miis are complete douches in every Nintendo game they're in!

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Jazzer94

Crimzonlogic wrote:

NintyMan wrote:

All this Dark Pit hating is rubbing me the wrong way. Beware when he might become one of my new mains!

Same. It's getting on my nerves and making me feel like I'm wrong for liking him so much...

Him being a douche doesn't mean I hate him just he isn't anywhere near as fleshed out and interesting as Falco

Crimzonlogic wrote:

Jazzer94 wrote:

C-Olimar wrote:

Jazzer94 wrote:

WaLzgi wrote:

Everyone hates Dark Pit, but Falco is okay. Never change internet

Well Falco is awesome and Foxes right hand man, Dark Pit was mostly just a douche in Uprising.

But he saved Pit

Doesn't change the fact he is still a douche.

They are both douches, come on! But I don't remember ever liking Falco... XD

Never said you had to like Falco but out of the two he is more popular simple as that.

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UGXwolf

Yoshi_Prime wrote:

I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.

If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.

Edit: I see what you did there.

Wait, wait, wait, wait... you're ok with Lucas, but not Wolf? All of my wut.

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UGXwolf wrote:

Yoshi_Prime wrote:

I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.

If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.

Edit: I see what you did there.

Wait, wait, wait, wait... you're ok with Lucas, but not Wolf? All of my wut.

Lucas is a bit less clone-y than Wolf, who is just a straight-up clone with a worse B-up.

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MasterWario

DreamyViridi wrote:

NintyMan wrote:

All this Dark Pit hating is rubbing me the wrong way. Beware when he might become one of my new mains!

I'll be right there with you with Lucina if that happens.
Though I remember her not doing too badly in those polls.

Well I actually have a reason to like Lucina (I like her sword mechanic better than Marth's) but I have no idea why i'd pick Dark Pit over Pit, especially when I hardly play Pit to begin with.

I'm actually ok with Dark Pit though; just making a point.

C-Olimar wrote:

Interesting how Donkey Kong fans are up in arms about the series' "under-representation" when Diddy is one of the least favourite characters.
Maybe K.Rool should have replaced Didds?

The sad thing about it is he was an amazing character in Diddy Kong Racing, DK64, Donkey Kong Country 2; but in games now a-days he's the annoying, troll banana-peel character (at least in Smash anyway). I'm going to try and like Diddy a bit more this time around, but those bananas are just so troll and so essential to his strategy. Wait...he still has the banana peels, right?

Yoshi_Prime wrote:

I figured that, since they removed the PKMN Trainer and made Charizard its own character, plus Greninja, that they'd add a Grass starter.

I read that the first time and read it as Pikmin. Man is that acronym confusing. (PKMN -> PiKMiN)

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Yoshi_Prime wrote:

UGXwolf wrote:

Yoshi_Prime wrote:

I would actually not mind if they kept Falco and got rid of Fox, and watch tournament players lose their minds.

If they removed Falco, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina, they could slip the Ice Climbers (yes, I know why they're not there; let's all live in our fantasy lives), Lucas, Mewtwo, Krystal, and Chibi-Robo (I'll never let you die, buddy). Or, you know, Captain Rainbow.

Edit: I see what you did there.

Wait, wait, wait, wait... you're ok with Lucas, but not Wolf? All of my wut.

Lucas is a bit less clone-y than Wolf, who is just a straight-up clone with a worse B-up.

Huh? Last time I checked, Wolf's a clone only in Specials and Final Smash. He's his own character otherwise; same can be said for Lucas.

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Undead_terror

Retro_on_theGo wrote:

Dark Pit outclasses Pit. A lot apparently. Like there is almost no point in using Pit over Dark Pit. Unless you just really don't want to use Dark Pit.

Same with Lucina and Marth apparently, Marth is not as good, people said that Falco isn't even good in the game.

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Ya wolf is definitely not a clone with his A attacks, and his B attacks aren't that bad. Anyways if DLC is a possibility, I have to say wolf has a better chance of returning than Lucas. Unlike Lucas, wolf is actually going to appear in a new game soon while the mother series ended a while ago. Oh and I always thought Lucas was much more cloney than wolf. Lucas' A moves were mostly original while wolf's A moves were completely original. Sorry if I dissed the Lucas fans. If anything, Lucas still some shot at returning if DLC is in the cards.

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Nintendo6400 wrote:

Ya wolf is definitely not a clone with his A attacks, and his B attacks aren't that bad. Anyways if DLC is a possibility, I have to say wolf has a better chance of returning than Lucas. Unlike Lucas, wolf is actually going to appear in a new game soon while the mother series ended a while ago. Oh and I always thought Lucas was much more cloney than wolf. Lucas' A moves were mostly original while wolf's A moves were completely original. Sorry if I dissed the Lucas fans. If anything, Lucas still some shot at returning if DLC is in the cards.

I'm not in the mood to argue why Lucas is more or less of a clone than Wolf, but I would say the two equally deserve their own slot from Fox and Ness.

The thing that baffles me most with Lucas' exclusion is how he was going to replace Ness twice.(first in Melee before Earthbound 64 was cancelled, and then in Brawl after Mother 3 where they decided to keep both Ness and Lucas) I figured that after ultimately deciding to keep the two Mother characters, they wouldn't drop Lucas since they clearly thought he was more important than Ness at one point. But I guess they just don't want him there anymore, and kept Ness because he was a 64 veteran.

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