@skywake
Ya, I think I get it. Sometimes I just think one thing, that I'm fairly certain is true, but I don't want to say it. I had heard there was a separate 512mb chip, but I had thought there was a partition, prior. I was mainly talking about the CPU and GPU in the Wii being somewhere in the Wii U, but not in its original form, while still contributing to what makes the Wii U, as well.
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Well, if there was a partition, the Wii U would probably be constantly running that partition of data through the Wii U OS. It would have to recognize that that is Wii data, even if you weren't in Wii Mode. Once you go to the Wii Menu, THAT is when it accesses that data, but never else. That's what I think.
Just today, I was in Wii Menu, going to Wii U menu, and it said my Wii system files were corrupted, and I didn't even do anything wrong, so somewhere along the line, the Wii Menu wouldn't allow me to back to Wii U menu.
EDIT: This is the first and only time it has happened, BTW.
Just wanted to let people know this is the "movement's" goals
This will be the official topic for all plans regarding the “attack”. Just list your suggestions below, and I will list the most common ones and everyone can decide on whether or not it’s cool. Also, we’ll make a list of things that really shouldn’t be asked for (Such as region locking, Nintendo has already commented on that and are COMPLETELY against it.)
NOTE: DO NOT go off spamming Twitter, FB, or Miiverse by yourself. To be effective, we have to plan set times and do it together. If you go off by yourself, Nintendo will just see you as another annoying spammer.
So far, we have:
1) Folders
2) Cross-game Chat
3) Cross-buy VC games. If I have a game on my Wii U, I shouldn’t have to re-buy it for 3DS.
4) eShop gifting, like the Wii could do.
5) 3DS Messaging system
6) Join Game feature, like on 3DS. Or invites.
7) On-screen notifications
8) Media playback via SD Card
9) Things to hold us over during droughts, such as the Re-U-Magined concept. Inide games are great but everyone’s not into them and a lot of those lack true longevity.
10) Faster developed games, as AONUMA said himself. You can’t have huge gaps when you lack the 3rd party support.
11) New Pro controllers with audio jacks (and analogue triggers)
12) Let us navigate the WHOLE system with just the Pro controller and WiiRemote. You cannot access settings unless you have the gamepad.
13) Too much focus on the younger audience, pay attention to your old-school fans who are much older now.
14) GamePad off function. If we’re not using it, and shouldn’t have to be on wasting battery life.
15) A push for online on console games. NSMB, Nintendo Land, 3D World, all HUGE missed opportunities that could’ve provided longevity.
16) Voice chat for these games. It’s 2014, and Nintendo can no longer afford to try to keep the kiddos safe.
Things that aren’t priorities or fixes, but we would love to have.
1) Achievement system
2) Menu customization (colors at least)
3) The ability to play Classic Controller compatible Wii games on the Wii U GamePad.
4) Let us upload gameplay clips to Miiverse
5) Custom Miiverse communities, as promised back in the January 2013 Direct.
6) GameCube games on VC.
Things we will NOT ask for
1) Ending region locking. It’s not happening, they said so themselves, and I don’t think it’s something that can be patched anyway.
2) A new Metroid. A new Metroid game is undoubtedly coming to Wii U.
3) Streaming capabilities. It’d be nice, but not at all necessary and the system may not have been built for that feature.
4) 3rd party games. These are things that are up to 3rd parties, not Nintendo.
5) Unified account system. Nintendo was aware of this problem before the Wii U even launched and have already stated that they will work on it.
If there’s anything you want to take off, add, or alter on any of these lists, let me know.
EDIT: Formatted, should be easier to read now
An aggressive movement to bring Folders to the Wii U? haha
Of that list, numbers 3, 9, 10, 13 and 16 are nothing more than whiny self-entitled BS. 7 is a terrible idea unless made optional. 5 was Swapnote and it's over. They should get over it and move on.
On the non-mandatory stuff, 1 is already optional for every game. There is NO need to force it on every single game. Some people weren't as specific on 3 as it is here, so I took it to mean they wanted to use the Gamepad for every Wii game, which if you know games for Wii seems like a very stupid idea.
And finally on the list of things they're not asking for, 5 falls into the same category as 3 in their main list, so they're contradicting themselves. Also, i've noticed some people asking for 2 and 4.
...Oh, and way to call the movement an "attack". Real professional of them. /sarcasm
I'm not understanding all this hate at having crossbuy which at this point is standard practice for digital purchases by several companies not just Sony.
I'm not understanding all this hate at having crossbuy which at this point is standard practice for digital purchases by several companies not just Sony.
Which is more than enough reason to expect Nintendo to move in that direction without the need for a campaign. People complain about that but are also forgetting that Nintendo are the only dudes allowing near full backwards compatibility. They also now have a whole range of deals/sales going on constantly on the eShop. They're progressing.
What actually irks me about this "movement" is that for the most part it's an attempt to clog MiiVerse with requests to make more games and introduce mundane system features. Frankly if it was just a cross-buy campaign then I'd be cool with it. As it is? It's really just a lot of hot air.
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I'm not understanding all this hate at having crossbuy which at this point is standard practice for digital purchases by several companies not just Sony.
Because A) it is not standard practice fore most companies. B) Nintendo is struggling in the market, so people are demanding more free content C) Unlike iPad/iPhone tge Wii U and 3DS are completely different machines meaning Nintendo has to put resources into making two different VC games.
I am not against the idea of cross-buy, I am against the idea that people are entitled to cross-buy. I could see Nintendo offering a discount on 1 platform if you bought it full price on another (so upgrading a Wii VC to a Wii U VC game wouldn't give you the cheaper 3DS option.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
@skywake I'm not even referring to the movement anymore as I've said multiple times that I don't support it go on my Miiverse page for proof, what I don't understand is that some people seem to feel that crossbuy is a ridiculous notion when it really isn't.
Since revolution is in the air, I say we hunger strike until they bring Nintendogs to the Wii U. You hear me Iwata? I won't eat until I'm petting a virtual dog on my game pad!
I'm not understanding all this hate at having crossbuy which at this point is standard practice for digital purchases by several companies not just Sony.
Because A) it is not standard practice fore most companies. B) Nintendo is struggling in the market, so people are demanding more free content C) Unlike iPad/iPhone tge Wii U and 3DS are completely different machines meaning Nintendo has to put resources into making two different VC games.
I am not against the idea of cross-buy, I am against the idea that people are entitled to cross-buy. I could see Nintendo offering a discount on 1 platform if you bought it full price on another (so upgrading a Wii VC to a Wii U VC game wouldn't give you the cheaper 3DS option.
Doesn't that show how much Nintendo has gotten wrong in a era of technology where cross compatbility is free. People talk up how awesome the Wii U's BC was but it seems, people want more cross buy or compatbility with their current slate of devices.
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Because A) it is not standard practice fore most companies.
It is standard practice for most companies with digital stores why don't you do some research on this and you'll see.
Lets see, Sony and Google. iPhone/iPad is more like 3DS and 3DS XL then two separate platforms like Wii U and 3DS. Steam supports different Operating Systems but all those machines are computers. Steam and Apple are better reflections on why digital products should be tied to an Account. They don't really showcase purchasing 1 product for multiple platforms as well.
B) Nintendo is struggling in the market, so people are demanding more free content
Its not free content as consumers are still paying for VC games just not multiple times.
You are paying for 1 product, nothing gives you the right to be able to use that product on multiple machines. If Nintendo wants to do cross-buy stuff later then that is great but they don't owe you anything
C) Unlike iPad/iPhone tge Wii U and 3DS are completely different machines meaning Nintendo has to put resources into making two different VC games.
Oh please It does not take much effort to put roms on the e-shop its getting them rated that takes time.
It takes effort to make sure VC games run smoothly on your device. Nintendo isnt just throwing up random ROMs or Emulators that may not run the game as well as the original, Nintendo goes through and tests all these products to make sure they are running smoothly
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
Cross-buy should happen, plain and simple. I'm not saying we should spam Miiverse to get it, but I would hope Nintendo would simply look around and realize it's a good idea. There are multiple times where I don't buy a VC title on the 3DS or Wii U because I'm holding out to see if it will be released on the other system. That's just bad business. I want the product, but I don't buy it because I want to see my options. If I knew that every NES & SNES VC title I bought would play on my Wii U or 3DS, at some point (it doesnt even have to be available on both at release) I would buy more VC titles.
It seems like most people in this thread ignore the fact that the only reason we got Earthbound in the U.S. (according to Iwata) is from fans demanding it.
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