Topic: Is it important that every next gen release runs at 1080p and 60 fps?

I think it's important to the people with really good tv sets / monitors. They spent the extra money on the better quality screen and would like for games and movies to support the screen that they have. It's the same reason HD became standard.

Here is my say in the matter. If you have a game and can clearly see it on your television and it plays well, and most importantly you have fun playing it... That is all that matters.
Videogames are for fun, that is why I am a Nintendo fan,

From a purely technical standpoint yes, if all the next gen consoles are capable of putting out 60fps 1080p games then developers should be expected to meet this benchmark.

In terms of personal preference, I can't really tell the difference. In fact, the first time I saw something in 60fps I thought it looked weird just because it was almost too smooth. I'd been too accustomed to films in 30fps and so 60fps got tossed right into the uncanny valley. Plus, if a game was excellent and yet was in a lower resolution, I wouldn't mind in the slightest. Sure, the same game couldn't possibly be worse for being in a higher definition, but I won't dislike a game just because the quality isn't as good as it could be.

Games were running at 60 FPS way before Xbox 360 or PS3. This "Next-Generation" isn't going to change anything. Some games will be 60 FPS and some will be lower

Because graphical horsepower is the defining feature of this generation and beyond---

Compelling gameplay, and budget considerations? Secondary.

1080p/30 FPS is perfectly acceptable to me.
As far as 720p/30 even if the graphics are REALLY REALLY amazing.

For Wii U I'm only really expecting 720/30 and 720/60.

Console games that go 1080/60 take too many shortcuts to get there and end up looking horrible, not worth it.

Most people aren't going to be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless if they have massive screens or are really close to them, so I don't think that needs to be a standard.

As for framerate, unless if it's something like Dead Rising 3, where you've got an immense amount of things on screen at once, all doing their own thing, and each one being unique, then yes, we should aim for 60 fps.

^yup that's exactly the reason I think smaller devices like Smartphones and Handhelds don't need to go all the way up to 1080(heck, maybe even 720p is a little too much for those)

Yes, Nintendo knows how to achieve a solid frame rate.

I'm pretty sure Mario Kart 8 will be 1080/60, and that game looks absolutely amazing so far! There really isn't any reason gaming companies can't get games 1080/60 in this new generation of consoles, but like others have said, some will and some won't. But looking at Mario Kart 8, it's obvious it can be done and done well.

I think he meant games that forcibly go 1080/60(or so I hope)

The generation that 60FPS truly becomes the standard will be the same decade that gameplay truly takes precedence over graphics.

I doubt it'll ever happen though, consoles are stuck in a bit of rut. They start out strong with developers showing off the consoles "grunt" by releasing games running at 60FPS. Then over time they start leaning towards better graphics so they cut corners on the frame rate.
It happened with the PS2, many of the early titles (MGS2 in particular) were 60FPS, then towards the end of the consoles lifespan the frame rates dropped to 30~FPS (For instance, MGS3).

I can see the same happening with the gen 8 consoles. I would actually put money on it.

Myth...

That said, I'd prefer amazing graphics over 1080p/60 if it came down to it any day of the week.

Nope, 720/60 almost certainly but we'll have to wait for release before we know for sure. Wind Waker HD was 1080/30 btw and Smash is a fighting game that will be 1080/60, not really comparable.

No the correct distance should be the width and a half of your screen.

if I start caring about numbers so much, that will be a good sign for me that I need to stop playing games

Say that to Wind Waker HD, Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8 which all run at 1080p 60 fps

60fps would be very nice. A steady framerate is important for me. I can live without 1080p though.

WWHD and 3D World run at 30FPS...and one of those games is an upscaled Gabecube game.
Not sure on Mario Kart 8 but I believe it's 60FPS. Not sure on the resolution.

@Phatosaurus
I believe Mario Kart 8 is 1080p and runs at 60FPS.

To be honest, I don't think the difference between 720p and 1080p is that huge. There is a slight difference, but depending on your gaming setup, you may not even be able to see it. I do think that games should try for 60FPS though, it's very nice to have games that run smoothly.