Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

I completely missed the recent SOP. But the new God of War trailer looks great. That's a day one for me.

I am sorta contemplating buying a PS5, as there are some late PS4 exclusives I didn't play, a bunch of PS5 stuff I haven't touched and then a whole bunch of exclusives coming as well that I guess will come to PC eventually but who knows how many years it will take.

I am sorta hesitating though as well as I own literally every other type of console and while the discless version of the PS5 is fairly reasonably priced in the scheme of things. I remember the PS Store being expensive AF during the PS4 days compared to like say Steam or whatever and the digital version basically locks me into that.

However, it is like a hundred quid or something for the disc version, that seems insane to me for a disc drive. I guess it will save me money long term as I can get cheaper disc version of games or preowned games etc, but it would mean I am putting almost 500 hundred quid down for something that won't be my primary machine, it will just be dusted off for exclusives and then put back down again. Does that make it total overkill?

@Pizzamorg IMO just grab the disc version. It should pay for itself quickly with the money you save on games. $100 off will be peanuts over the course of a generation.

What games are you looking to play on it?

Looking at Ghost of Tsushima, the Yakuza games not on PC (both in the past and then coming up next year), Last of Us Part 2, thinking about giving Persona 5 another go and God of War Ragnarok when it comes out. Just off the top of my head

@Pizzamorg I think a lot of those will be available via Sony's subscription service, too. You gain access to a bunch of games just by subbing to base PS+ on PS5, I believe.

With the Judgment games coming to PC, I think the only Playstation exclusives left for Yakuza is the Fist of the North Star spinoff, right?

I think everything on your list was designed with PS4 in mind. Don't have yours anymore, I take it.

Oh, and you know P5R is going to Game Pass, right? I believe the PC version as well.

Yeah, I was thinking of subbing to the midtier subscription as it seems to encompass most of what I am looking for. As far as I can tell for an extra tenner the stuff you get in the premium tier isn't worth it.

And for Yakuza honestly kinda no idea lol. I think the idea is to make them multiplat, and I think with Judgement all historic titles are now multiplat outside of some of the Japan exclusive stuff they are looking to now rerelease her in the West. But in terms of them in future, them being at the Sony state of play confuses things. I haven't heard any official confirmation anywhere that they are all coming out day and date on all platforms simultaneously.

I do have my PS4 still, although I haven't turned it on in years so I have no idea if it still works, it is just been sat in the back of a cupboard. But even if it did, I put up with a rough 30 fps under 1080p experience if that is my only option, but if I know I can play a game in 4k60 I will take that option every time.

@Pizzamorg Even a lot of the PS diehards I talk to don't think the most expensive tier is worth it.

All of the recently announced Yakuza games have been confirmed for release on all platforms but Switch in the same year. I'd be very surprised if they weren't day and date, frankly.

Fair. Games are obviously going to look and run much more nicely on a next-gen console.

I mean what makes the Yakuza thing even more confusing is if you remember, Like a Dragon was actually a timed Xbox Exclusive lol

@Pizzamorg The 'exclusivity' only applied to the next-gen port of the game. The PS4 release of the game wasn't delayed at all.

But yeah, Microsoft has taken a significant amount of interest in the series, and seems to be renewing whatever deal they have with Sega to keep the games up on Game Pass. It's funny, because the Yakuza Remastered Collection left the service, and then literally popped up again a few days later.

I really doubt Sega will be making any deals that alienates MS at this point. Very few companies have seats this cushy on Daddy Phil's Gravy Train.

Oh wow was it only the next gen (as it was then)? I haven't really heard of a deal like that before.

I do also remember the stories of Yakuza leaving Gamepass but they are all fully on there, including Yakuza 6 which I think was PS exclusive up until recently.

@Pizzamorg Yeah, they only delayed the release of a PS5 version.

The Yakuza games were PS4 exclusive for the bulk of last generation, but now they're ALL on Xbox and PC, and future titles are going to be multiplatform releases. Almost all of the big Japanese properties that used to be Playstation exclusive are releasing on other platforms now.

Even Persona. Gosh, I'm still shocked about Persona going multiplat.

FF will probably be the only major exception, because S-E and Sony are cushy, and Sony appears to be willing to pay good money to keep those games from releasing on Xbox. Although even those games will be releasing on PC, lol.

@Pizzamorg With the physical games, you can always sell them, and make your money back that way. If you don't care about keeping the game around, and it playing it once is good enough for you, that's one way of saving money.

The additional $100 is certainly excessive. 4K UHD blu ray players are probably around $50 or so, but the price difference is certainly done to nod people towards the digital only system, as it's way more profitable for them.

https://www.play-asia.com/garfield-lasagna-party/13/70fpxx

Garfield game on PS5 !!! 😆

Yeah I guess it's one of those @Ralizah am I patient? No lol it seems Sony is starting to embrace the PC more, but they still very much live in a world where their main goal is shifting systems. This may change in future, but if I'm having to wait a couple of years to play every exclusive title on PC that may come along this generation, I think I'd rather just play it day and date on the console. Especially as this generation is, at least for now, targeting 4k60. I probably won't have a significantly better experience on my PC, in the same way I did have when I played games I was playing on my base PS4 on PC for the first time.

And @Octane that's very much a good shout. It's kinda how I did it for years when I was a focused console gamer, I basically just rented games from the atore lol playing a title and then as soon as I was done I would trade it in for something else. I think I went quite a few years where I didn't actually spend a penny on games.

That only really changed for me in the last couple of years. Steam has an excellent refund policy, and because of Covid I'm in the city less, plus I just love the general convenience of a digital title. However, knowing how expensive Sony's digital store is and them wacking an extra premium on their titles, I guess I'm gonna have to go back to the old ways. But I do think that PS Plus Extra will tide me over for the time being.

My PS5 arrived yesterday, I heard all the stories, but it still took to actually handling one in person to truly appreciate what an ugly machine this is. It is still pretty heavy too, I thought since the Series X seemed to like condense the mass it would be heavier, but I'd argue the PS5 isn't any lighter, despite spreading its mass over a wider surface area. It is also louder than my Series X too, I basically don't hear the machine at all despite that massive vent on the top, but even when like watching Netflix the PS5 is whirring away, which is kinda concerning. Although it doesn't get much louder when playing games, so I dunno, does the fan kick in extra hard as like a precaution? It is how I have set up my PC tbf, the moment there is a sign of heat I basically get the fans to kick into full power.

I also dunno whether it is just because I am more of an Xbox guy so I am just used their homescreen but I find the PS5 really hard to navigate, looks of stuff tucked away in sub menus or like hidden and you have to work out how to pull it out. I had to Google how to find a few things and that made me feel stupid. The screenshot situation is also really weird, if you don't get the screenshots from the companion app or download it to a USB, it aggressively compresses the shots? This makes sharing to Twitter directly basically worthless. Even like trying to find the right version of games seems to be a confusing mess, trying to find the PS5 PS Plus version of a game requires a lot of trial and error clicking until stuff is eventually found.

Oh and no NFL Gamepass app in Europe, what the ***** is that about? I appreciate it is somewhat of a niche thing, but a PS4 app exists, it is just not on the PS5 for some reason. Even though stuff like Disney plus is listed as a "PS4 App" so other PS4 apps have been ported? I dunno, seems like a real mess.

BUT. I did finally get to play Ghost of Tsushima and man, I dunno what resolution and fps the PS5 version is running in, but I ran it in the high-resolution mode, and it felt smooth and looked gorgeous. Like it might be one of the nicest, most visually striking, games I have ever seen. I wish I could more easily share screenshots.

Plus, the use of the new controller, man, it might be a gimmick but what a compelling gimmick. I wasn't sure on the controller at first, mirroring the two consoles, the PS5 controller is longer and thinner than the Xbox Controller and my hands are only small. However, as soon as I felt like the different terrain under my feet and the resistance on the bow and other things on the controller, I was all in. The 3D audio on the PS5 is also surprisingly excellent out of the box. I use headphones that are really designed to be driven by an AMP and paired with a DAC, but I just plugged them directly into the controller and the 3D audio sounds incredible.

I have queued up a bunch of stuff, like I know there isn't like an FPS boost equivalent, but I am excited to play Until Dawn again. I have the Final Fantasy remake queued up as I heard the PC Port kinda sucks (or at least it did on release, maybe they have patched it since). Gonna also try and replay God of War in time for Ragnarok. I was a bit confused about why there is no PS5 version, but apparently the PS4 version runs in a resolution and FPS comparable to running the PC version on high settings on a decent rig, so I dunno what makes a PS5 version a PS5 version.

Hope they bring out GTA6 on PS4, saves me having to get a PS5 for a while at least.

@Pizzamorg

Nice to hear about your experience. The loudness of the fan is really something that could turn me off from buying a PS 5. I think the PS4 pro is much too loud for a gaming system. Is it comparable in loudness?

I'd say the PS4 pro is probably way louder, honestly the PS4 in general was quite a loud console when you were running an older system with a newer game, and it is definitely not like that. I honestly think it wouldn't have bothered me and could have quite easily have drowned it out in the ambient noise of my house, but it was just a surprise to hear the machine at all when I took my headphones off as like I say my Xbox is basically silent.

And also like I say, it is generally quite confusing. Will it get louder over the generation, if it is already loud enough to be noticed at the start of the generation? Cause like it seems as loud as it does running Netflix as it does running a game, so I wonder if it is a software thing rather than anything else. Like an intentional choice just as a precaution. Maybe the machine just doesn't manage heat passively as well as the Xbox does, I guess we will only know later into the cycle if it does become another PS4 Pro that under strain sounded like a vacuum cleaner, lol.

@Pizzamorg

Glad I am not the only one who thinks the PS 4 Pro is too loud. And I am glad to hear the PS 5 is much less loud. Well the rest sounds pretty good. Especially the controller gimmick sounds very interesting.
I hope you will have a great time with the PS 5.

Edit: I have a question regarding trophies for older games. I know Dark Chronicle has trophies now, but are they only working for the digital version or can I just put the DVD in the PS 5 and unlock the trophies as usual?

God of War Ragnarok is the best looking PS4 game to date.

It's wild to see PS4 entering its 10th year on the market in November.

One of the all-time great platforms, but when will Sony let it fade away?